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Electrovaya Inc. (ELVA)

Q2 2021 Earnings Call· Wed, May 12, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Electrovaya Q2 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Richard Halka, Executive Vice President and CFO. Please go ahead.

Richard Halka

Analyst

Thank you, Brock. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss Electrovaya’s Q2 2021 second quarter financial results. Today's call is being hosted by Dr. Sankar Das Gupta, CEO of Electrovaya and myself, Richard Halka, Executive Vice President and CFO. On May 11, 2021, Electrovaya issued a press release concerning its business highlights and financial results for the three-month period ended March 31, 2021. If you would like a copy of the release, you can access it on our website. If you want to view the financial statements, and Management's Discussion and Analysis, you can access those documents on the SEDAR website at www.sedar.com. As with previous calls, our comments today are subject to the normal provisions related to forward-looking information. We will provide information relating to our current views regarding trends in our markets, including size and potential for growth, and our competitive position in our target markets. Although, we believe the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, such statements, involve risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. Additional information and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations and about material factors or assumptions apply to making forward-looking statements may be found in the Company's press release announcing the fiscal 2021 second quarter results, and the most recent annual information form and Management's Discussion and Analysis under risks and uncertainties, as well as in our other public disclosure documents filed with Canadian Securities Regulatory Authorities. Also please note that all numbers discussed on this call are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise noted. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Sankar. Sankar?

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Thank you, Richard, and good morning everyone. Q2 2021 ending 31, March was a busy quarter for us and we are pleased with our progress in this quarter. We grew revenue 50% in the quarter and around 96% for the six months ended March 31, 2021. The year-over-year revenue growth reflects growing customer demand. Our sales are coming from large intensive users that recognize the value of our batteries. Our batteries safety cycle life and energy density is providing significant efficiency gain and strong return on investment to our customers. Richard will outline further the financial results. On the sales and revenue channel, we are getting traction in spite of the prolonged COVID disruptions. For our revenue, we have two channels to the market. The first channel is Raymond Corporation an OEM, Original Equipment Manufacturer, who has an extensive sales network. The second channel is our direct sales to the customers. On the first channel, Raymond Corp., who is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Toyota Group, is the premium electric brand for electric lift trucks for Toyota. Raymond is also the largest manufacturer of branded electric lift trucks in North America and along with the branded trucks is the largest manufacturer globally in this sector. Electrovaya and Raymond signed a strategic supply agreement in December 2020, and this has been the first quarter after that agreement. And Raymond has launched this product with a revamped website at www.raymondcorp.com. Raymond's focus market is of course USA and Canada through its distribution chain. The Electrovaya battery is now integrated with most of the large lift trucks sold by Raymond. We are very bullish that Raymond will have our battery in very many customer locations in the lift truck sector. Last quarter was the first quarter that the Raymond strategic supply agreement came…

Richard Halka

Analyst

Thank you, Sankar. It has been a very eventful quarter. We have taken significant steps to improve the company's liquidity and financial performance. I would just like to comment first on our revenue for this quarter. As Sankar mentioned, our revenue increased 50% to $2.9 million or CAD 3.7 million as compared to $1.9 million or $2.4 million in Q2 2020. Revenue for the six-month period ended March 31, 2021 increased 96% to $5.5 million or CAD 6.9 million as compared to $2.8 million or Canadian CAD 3.5 million for Q2 fiscal 2021, sorry 2020. This is on track with our expectations. The transition from the Raymond Sales Agreement to the Raymond Strategic Supply Agreement only occurred [ph] this quarter. As can be expected with any new sales channel, there will be a settling in period as the process is implemented. We expect momentum to increase as we go forward, but the exact timing is uncertain. We have improved EBITDA. EBITDA was negative $800,000 in Q2, 2021 as compared to negative $1 million in Q2 2020. EBITDA improved 20% year-over-year. We’re focusing on controlling costs, but not at the expense of investing in the future. We have invested in sales staff and marketing, but we’ve reduced general and administrative costs. We will continue to invest in R&D, but we will look for strategies to pursue a reduction in our cost of debt. The company raised $7.8 million in the quarter through a combination of private placement of shares, the exercise of warrants, and the exercise of options. We used a portion of the proceeds to reduce the working capital facility by $1.8 million U.S. or CAD $2.3 million, further strengthening the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $2.8 million in cash or CAD $3.1 million and have drawn $2.2…

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Thank you, Richard. As Richard mentioned, our pipeline is very large indeed. However, because of COVID and the clarity, Richard needs great clarity on the guidance, so that’s the reason he has the press release and the guidance. Now, Electrovaya is moving well in many, many directions. In the lift truck business, we believe we should become the industry standard. Electrovaya's battery, you can see Raymond's website which calculates the return on investment for our batteries to be a matter of a few months. There is an ROI calculator in their website where one can put in the parameters and calculate. We are continuing research into the next generation cells and batteries, mainly in the areas of solid-state cells, electrode production, and higher energy density battery, along with our excellent safety and longevity. We continue to accumulate additional IP and patent applications. In February 2021, we had announced that we had submitted an initial application to list our common shares on the NASDAQ stock market. We believe that in the current market environment, battery manufacturers and other clean tech businesses listed in the United States may benefit from a greater visibility of listing on a major U.S. Stock Exchange. While there is no assurance our listing will be approved, we continue to make progress with this initiative. In conclusion, we are making excellent progress. Our revenues are increasing, a 50% increase year-over-year in spite of COVID disruptions in demand, supply and employment. Our distribution channels are getting stronger with the Raymond strategic supply agreement and increase in our direct sales force. We’ve added more sales people recently. The addressable market for electric lift trucks is large, possibly several billions. Our customers are major Fortune 500 companies. Our OEM channel is part of the world's largest lift truck manufacturer. Our battery technology is industry-leading with unparalleled safety and longevity with excellent energy and power. We also now have developed a high-voltage battery for electric buses, a 700 volts system. Both Canada and USA are planning multi-trillion-dollar investments in the green technology revolution. The lithium-ion battery is the key enabling technology. Our IP and patent position is increasing. Our next-generation battery development is being built upon some of our unique IP. We have an interesting technology development on a solid-state cell. A feasible solid-state battery is the Holy Grail in this energy transformation. Electrovaya, staff, we understand the complex chemistry that is needed for solid-state batteries and we are involved years ago on developing the world’s first commercial solid-state battery. For years Electrovaya’s technology was ahead of the market and now we are really gratified that the market has finally arrived and vindicated our years in creating this technology. This concludes our remarks this morning. Richard and I would now be pleased to hold a question-and-answer session. Brock, please open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Doctor. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today is from Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

[Indiscernible] On the success with Raymond, it’s really nice to see the market leader adopt your products and offer them to their customers. Can you maybe frame out for us how the ramp is taking shape with Raymond? Was there may be a little bit of a channel fill in the first quarter? And how much visibility does Raymond give you or did Raymond give you that contributed to the original revenue forecast that you put out in November?

Richard Halka

Analyst

Hello Craig, it’s Richard Halka here. What has happened is we moved from a sales agreement whereby we dealt directly with the Raymond dealers and their customers to provide the solution. In other words, we were right at the core phase in terms of when’s it to be delivered and timing of that. Now, everything goes through Raymond Corporate. We don't have the contact with the dealers or the end customers that we did. Therefore, that transparency we had in 2020 is now somewhat clouded. We are working with Raymond. We have an excellent relationship and we want to resolve this to understand a little bit better the forward orders, who they're for and the timing. We expect we'll be able to work through that. As I say, it was the early days, first quarter, teething pains. We will work through that over the next few weeks. As soon as we do have clarity with that, we'll be prepared to go to the market with our revised guidance, but until that's resolved, we know the quantum is there, we don't know the timing. Craig, and your other question? I'm sorry.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Well, how many SKUs are you qualified to sell through Raymond Corporate right now? And do you have other SKUs maybe in qualification or in development that will layer in over the next few quarters?

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Craig, we have over 25 models of batteries and it's going into most of the Raymond SKUs for 24 volts, 36 volts and upwards. For any large forklift, which is working reasonably long hours, we are integrated with their forklifts. The batteries we don’t touch are the small walkies which are $1000, $2000 each, but pretty much we are, I would say, very integrated with the Raymond SKUs.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Excellent, excellent. So, then can you maybe update us on the progress with some of the corporate customers that you went to directly with the forklift batteries? One of those customers is very well known for saving their end customers the retail buyers, save them money, so they can look better. Another one is a global food brand that all of us will know. These are high profile customers. How have the fleets been received by them that you filled, what is the feedback they're giving? And do we see potential in these Fortune 500 companies for longer term framework agreements for much larger buys over the next couple of years?

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

So far the feedback has been very, very positive. And in fact the data with one customer, I think we have over 500 fairly large lift trucks running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, have accumulated probably equivalency of 0.5 million miles. And we are very pleased that the degradation of our battery after such amount of travel has not, is very, very low, minimal. So, we are seeing good repeat orders from these customers, and especially in the food and grocery sector. I'm not going to say we are going to be dominant or something, but I can't think of anybody who is not talking to us. And the Raymond pipeline with this new strategic supply agreement is very, very large, but as Richard says, they talk to the customers and then it filters back to us, but the he pipeline is so large, we sometimes are scratching our heads and we'll see. I think…

Richard Halka

Analyst

Yes.

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Generally the market likes the product.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Excellent, excellent. That's good to hear. And then just to understand the guidance, right, it's kind of a little bit of a disconnect from the improving environment post COVID, right, the vaccinations in the United States, vaccinations in Canada affecting the recovery where people need more equipment. Can you maybe just talk a little bit about that COVID recovery? And if we were to exclude Raymond from your guidance completely, would overall revenue guidance potentially be lifting now versus where you were in November?

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Craig, in Canada, we are I would say two months behind EU [ph] and the U.S. and we have a complete lockdown in Ontario and Toronto, which just started about what two three weeks ago.

Richard Halka

Analyst

Feels like forever. Months ago, I don’t know.

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Just reinstituted the whole lockdown and you know working through lockdowns are difficult generally. So, I think there is a phase difference between the U.S. and Canada. We are very optimistic that the vaccines are here and things are going to be much more normalized. So, really going back what Richard is saying, there is no lost customers. The quantum is very large. The pipeline which we see from our direct sales and we have added by the way a few more sales folks in the Chicago area and elsewhere, and the pipeline is very, very large. And it's going to -- let's see and this is really as -- this is a new team in Raymond who has just started working with us. This is a new team on top of the distributors who we used to work with. So, I think it's an addition of new people, but as always with a new team, they have to get rolling and play as a good team.

Richard Halka

Analyst

Just to add a comment to that Craig is, these are large Fortune 500 companies that we are dealing with. Most are our direct sales channel and through Raymond. These companies establish their budgets annually, quite early. So, in 2020 they had established their budgets in a pre-COVID period and they carried out those budgets through that. Our biggest challenges through 2020 were more on the supply side. Now we're moving into this year, 2021, and we're finding that we're not getting as much visibility. There's still a very high level of interest. We still get a very robust pipeline, but the delivery dates and the exact timing of this is where the uncertainty is. So, I think that has grown out of, and I don't want to read too much into our customer base, over the spillover from COVID, as to how things will ramp up. I know we're looking at a recovery here. I know you're seeing one in the States, but I think the timing is uncertain and we're all dealing in a new normal right now that makes the predictability just not what it was pre-COVID.

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

And Craig, the predictability goes both ways, you know upwards and so on. Just as an example, on the electric bus sector, we had lunched and we were planning a normal growth there, but I'm absolutely astounded by the amount of interest in the Electrovaya battery for an electric bus because of this incredible safety which we give on the batteries which is unparalleled and as well as the longevity. And now we are seeing the longevity from our batteries, which has been operating in the forklift sector. We've got 400,000, 500,000, 600,000 miles equivalent run on them and we can now predict longevity. So, I think all these sectors are coming up very fast and just now the pipeline is very large. So, we need to see where this guidance is going to come through. So, I think Richard is being careful.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

I understood. I understood. Yes, a lot of companies are facing the same issues, so it's completely logical. So, just last question if I may before I jump back in the queue, is it possible for the lithium-ion batteries for electric buses to be similar sized or potentially even larger as far as the revenue contribution this year compared to the lithium-ion batteries for electric forklifts?

Richard Halka

Analyst

I think what we're seeing here there is a fairly long lead time on the bus. I would say the impact in 2021 will not be as significant as what we're going to see on forklifts. Obviously that's our big revenue generator this year. I think 2022 is when we'll start to see some movement there.

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

And Craig, I may be wrong here, but I suspect 2022, the electric bus sector will outpace the forklift sector. The demand is just very, very high.

Craig Irwin

Analyst

Got it, understood. Hey congratulations on the progress. Thank you for taking my questions.

Richard Halka

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Gianluca Tucci of Torrent Capital. Please proceed with your question.

GianlucaTucci

Analyst

Hi, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Could you perhaps speak to the dynamic and how that's changed into the Raymond channel under the new agreement, how that's impacted your pipeline both good or bad? And like from their perspective, why can't they be transparent in terms of who the customers are, the timing of deliveries and those kind of variables?

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Gianluca, they are transparent. It's just -- and let me tell you what has happened is, the pipeline is larger now because of this strategic supply agreement. So, we are seeing a much larger pipeline through Raymond now and also they are going full speed ahead. This is the whole corporation has put their efforts behind this. So, the pipeline is much larger. What Richard was saying about the visibility is previously and maybe that's the way we were accustomed, we used to talk to the final customer, because it was the dealer would phone and hey, and say talk to Mr. A and B or C while at the present -- and so we knew who the customers were. And here now what we see is more a corporate approach where here is this massive pipeline. Here is this piece and so it's -- the touch is different. The pipeline is larger, but the touch is different.

Richard Halka

Analyst

I sort of addressed that with Craig. And I think really that's more that -- we had really, as Sankar has just described, a much closer relationship with the customer. And of course, now Raymond has a very large sales team that's moving this and they speak to corporate, and corporate speaks to us. This visibility will increase as we move forward. But out of an abundance of caution, we don't know whether this number will hit. I'll give you a little example. Our trailing 12 months is at March revenue is about $17 million, just over $17 million U. S. For 2020 that's really 12 months was just over $4 million, so that's a 13 million increase. So, are we confident that we can by the end of the year get to a $14 million increase over what we posted last year? Yes. Are we confident on that timing, whether those deliveries will fall in let's say now to September or will it be from now to December? We're not sure and that's where we wanted the transparency to be able to back a number, where I take it as a matter of personal pride that when we went out with guidance last year, we hit or exceeded every quarter. And I need to ask myself, if I've set the bar that -- to that level can I meet the standard now? And no, we need a little more information and a little more time, and then we will come out with our guidance. And you can trust that guidance because we will have a high degree of confidence in it.

Gianluca Tucci

Analyst

Right. Okay, yes I know that makes sense and it sounds like the right thing to do. And on the E-bus side, can you guys speak to a couple of the partners that you're working with? You made a delivery of your first E-bus battery in the March ended quarter or just after I forget, but just recently and like how quickly can you scale up that division and how does the supply chain processor, the battery building process differ from that of forklift battery?

Richard Halka

Analyst

It is, it- we can scale that up quite quickly. Basically, if you think of it in terms of a Lego building block, our modules are the same modules that go into a 24 volt, or sorry 20Amp- 36 or 48 and bus. So basically all the building blocks are the same, it’s just how many of the Legos do you put in and obviously in a bus battery, a lot more. So, the process is well-established. We can scale up quickly. We’ve purposely been careful. We’re on the high competitive ground now, in a number of these areas. We don't really want to go out there and name who we’re talking to until a relationship is firmly and long-term established. So, we don't want our competitors knocking on the same doors that we’re knocking on. We’re not to give them our Rolodex. So…

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

And also, yes, I agree with Richard that also the way the financing on the buses are coming, it’s coming through the Federal Government. In Canada, they have planned about $2.4 billion [ph] for about 5000 buses. The money has been, the legislation has not gone through yet, it’s been in the budget and so I think by the time the legislation goes through et cetera, and then the funds goes out to the various municipalities who starts buying, I would say 2022 is when you are looking at the earliest. And similarly for the U.S., I think President Biden has targeted about slightly around the $2 trillion investment and again that has to go through the -- both houses and by the time the money is allocated, approved et cetera, I would say 2022 is the earliest for some reasonable revenues. But this sector is going faster than, I would have thought six months ago.

Gianluca Tucci

Analyst

Okay. And on the Canadian, I guess grant side for investments, public sector investments into these types of endeavors, like how can the company, like you know, strive to get a piece of that? Are you talking to various cities that have access to this money, those types of things and how many competitors are in the e-bus market at least in Canada?

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

We are speaking to the bus manufacturer. So, the bus manufacturer then goes and sells his bus to the city. So, we are not approaching the cities directly. So, we depend on the bus manufacturers and we have started speaking with most of them.

Richard Halka

Analyst

Just as a general comment on government assistance, we are extremely good with lobbying, looking for opportunities. We have excellent relations with provincial, federal and various agencies within that. So, it happens to be one of our strengths. And if you look at back through our financials you can see the amount of support we’ve received over the years. And we continue to do that and we’ve initiated some new initiatives here to look at some of these substantial funding that is available. So yes, we’re very, very busy in that area.

Gianluca Tucci

Analyst

Okay, thank you, guys.

Richard Halka

Analyst

Thanks Gianluca.

Operator

Operator

There are no additional questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back to Dr. Sankar Das Gupta for closing remarks.

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Thanks Brock. Well, that concludes our call. Thank you for listening this morning. We look forward to speaking with you again after we report our fiscal third quarter results in the summer, by which time at least in Canada we are all vaccinated and in the meantime we wish you all good health. Thank you.

Sankar Das Gupta

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.