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EMCOR Group, Inc. (EME)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Sun, May 3, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Lara, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the EMCOR Group First Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Ms. Jamie Baird with FTI Consulting, you may begin.

Jamie Baird

Analyst

Thank you, Lara, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the EMCOR Group Conference Call. We are here today to discuss the company's 2020 first quarter results, which were reported this morning. I would now like to turn the call over to Kevin Matz, Executive Vice President of Shared Services, who will introduce management. Kevin, please go ahead.

Kevin Matz

Analyst

Thank you, Jamie, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for your interest in EMCOR. As we start, let me simply and briefly say, I hope you and your families are well and staying safe as we move through this unprecedented time. For those of you who are accessing the call via our Internet and our website, welcome, and we hope you have arrived at the beginning of our slide presentation that will accompany our remarks today. We are on Slide 2. This presentation and discussion contains certain forward-looking statements and certain non-GAAP financial information. Page two describes in detail the forward-looking statements and the non-GAAP financial disclosures. I encourage everyone to review both disclosures in conjunction with our discussion and accompanying slides. Slide 3 depicts the executives who are with me to discuss the quarter's results. They are Tony Guzzi, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mark Pompa, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; and our Senior Vice President and General Counsel, Maxine Mauricio. For call participants not accessing the conference call via the Internet, this presentation, including the slides, will be archived in the Investor Relations section of our website under Presentations. You can find us at emcorgroup.com. With that being said, please let me turn the call over to Tony. Tony?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Kevin. And I'm going to be on Pages four through six. As we have already released preliminary results, I am not going to speak that much to the first quarter of 2020. Mark will. I will cover some of the highlights, and Mark will speak to the detailed results. And then I will end with an overview of what we are seeing in the marketplace today. Even when faced with significant obstacles, we had a record quarter. We set first quarter records for revenues, gross profit, gross margin, operating income and diluted earnings per share from continuing operation. The entire EMCOR organization has responded well to this COVID-19 crisis. I thank our leadership and all of our employees for focusing first on our employees' health and safety, and I also thank them for keeping focus on our business during these challenging times. We have a company values of mission first, people always. We train those values, we hire on those values, and we promote our team on those values. It serves us well in these challenging times. I will quickly summarize some highlights for the quarter. Our Mechanical and Electrical Construction segments had a very strong quarter, led by our work in data centers, health care and food processing. We had a particularly strong booking quarter in these segments. Our Building Services segment had the most disruption in the first quarter from COVID-19 as our owner customers started to limit access for our HVAC technicians and our commercial site-based businesses. However, we executed very well until mid-March, and our project execution was very strong, and we booked some very nice retrofit and energy savings projects. Our Industrial Services segment had a very good quarter despite a challenging end market. We had strengthened our field operations and executed several large turnarounds. Some of our work was pushed from mid-March until later in the second quarter or the results would have even been better. Our U.K. segment had a terrific quarter. We leave the quarter with a strong and liquid balance sheet, record Remaining Performance Obligations or RPOs and a business that still has opportunities to operate in this unprecedented environment. We are well positioned to continue serving our markets and our customers in an expanded way when normalized operations resume. With that, I will turn it over to Mark to discuss the quarter in more detail.

Mark Pompa

Analyst

Thank you, Tony, and good morning to everyone on the call today. For those accessing this presentation via the webcast, we are now on Slide 7. Over the next several slides, I will augment Tony's opening commentary and review each of our reportable segments' first quarter operating performance, as well as other chief financial data derived from our consolidated financial statements included in both our earnings release announcement and Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission earlier today. So, let's expand our review of EMCOR's first quarter performance. Consolidated revenues of $2.3 billion are up $141.1 million or 6.5% over quarter one 2019. Our first quarter results include $82.5 million of revenues attributable to businesses acquired pertaining to the period of time that such businesses were not owned by EMCOR in last year's first quarter. Acquisition revenues positively impacted each of our United States Electrical Construction, United States Mechanical Construction and United States Building Services segments. Excluding the impact of businesses acquired, first quarter consolidated revenues increased approximately $58.6 million or 2.7%. All of EMCOR's reportable segments other than our United States Electrical Construction segment reported revenue growth during the first quarter of 2020. United States Electrical Construction revenues of $525.2 million decreased $2.8 million or approximately 0.5% from 2019's first quarter. Excluding acquisition revenues of $25.4 million, this segment's quarterly revenues declined 5.3% organically quarter-over-quarter. Revenue declines within the commercial, transportation, water and hospitality market sectors due to the completion of certain projects during 2019, were partially offset by increased project revenues within the manufacturing, institutional and health care market sectors. United States Mechanical Construction revenues of $834.1 million increased $81.7 million or 10.9% from quarter one 2019. Excluding acquisition revenues of $55.5 million, this segment's revenues grew organically 3.5% quarter-over-quarter. Revenue growth was primarily attributable to…

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Thanks, Mark, and I'm on Page 11, which I will cover Remaining Performance Obligations by segment and market sector. As stated earlier, we had a strong bookings quarter. Total RPOs at the end of the first quarter were $4.42 billion, up $267 million or 6.4% when compared to the March 2019 level of $4.16 billion. In fact, this RPO total is the highest quarterly total reported since we initiated RPO reporting in March 2018 and higher than any backlog level we reported prior to that. Domestic RPOs have increased $284 million or 7.1% since the year ago period, driven mainly by our Mechanical Construction segment. We did close a few strategic mechanical construction acquisitions in 2019, which helped support that growth. Book-to-bill measuring first quarter 2020 RPO activity over year-end 2019 activity was close to 1.2, which is fairly strong performance considering the strong first quarter revenues of $2.3 billion. So from the end of 2019, total RPOs increased $388 million or 9.6%. On the right side of the page, we show RPOs by market sector. $1.8 billion of this is classified as projects in the commercial sector. We view this sector broadly and beyond office and financial facilities. This sector also includes high-tech and data center projects that we continue to bid and construct. We are building these highly complex, fast-paced data center projects for the largest Internet and data storage providers. And while there are certain dense geographies for data center construction, like the Mid-Atlantic and the Pacific Northwest, where we have industry-leading expertise in our Dyna Washington, Poole and Kent North and Dyna Oregon companies, we are also seeing other areas of the country where data center construction is building up for the large providers. EMCOR companies are uniquely suited to do this work in other parts…

Mark Pompa

Analyst

Tony, thanks, again. For everybody on the call, we are now on Slide 13. Subsequent to our fourth quarter 2019 earnings call, we amended and extended our prior credit facility, which had been entered into in August of 2016. With this refinancing transaction, we refreshed the term loan component of the credit facility, increasing the amount of our term loan to $300 million from the approximately $254 million that was outstanding as of the end of December as of the end of December 2019. Additionally, we upsized the revolving credit line from the previous $900 million of capacity to $1.3 billion of available revolving credit. Under the existing terms and conditions, if necessary, this revolving credit line could be further increased by $600 million to $1.9 billion of capacity at EMCOR's discretion. This would be subject to incremental commitments from either existing or additional lenders. As a result of this transaction, which has a maturity date of March 2, 2025, EMCOR's historically strong liquidity is even more robust. At the bottom of Slide 13, you can see the amount of our outstanding borrowings at the end of the first quarter, which includes the $300 million under our term loan, which I just mentioned, which has an annual amortization requirement of 2.5% beginning in March 2021, and a 5% per annum amortization requirement in each of the succeeding three years. Additionally, we have utilized approximately $279 million of available capacity under our revolving credit line, with $200 million in direct borrowings and approximately $79 million of letters of credit issued. This activity leaves EMCOR with approximately $1.021 billion of available credit at March 31. Such liquidity is additive to our cash on hand and the operating cash flow the company expects to generate in calendar 2020, resulting from the monetization of our accounts receivable and contracted assets during the ordinary course of business. Despite any concern we have regarding the impact of COVID-19 of the COVID-19 pandemic on the markets and customers we serve, we expect to continue our long trend of generating positive operating cash flow in 2020. On a trailing 12-month basis, our debt-to-EBITDA is less than one times through March 31, and albeit higher than at any point in time during the last three years, remains low. To reiterate, EMCOR's liquidity remains strong, and we continue to be well positioned to capitalize on all opportunities. With that, once again, I will turn the call back to Tony. Tony?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Mark. And Lara, with that, we'll take questions.

Operator

Operator

So your first question will come from the line of Mr. Brent Thielman from D.A. Davidson. Sir, please proceed. Your line is now live.

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

All right. Good morning

Brent Thielman

Analyst

Good morning, I'm doing well. Thank you. Tony, we heard from a couple of others in the contracting world about seeing more of a preference to only allow more of the established contractors that might be taking kind of safety precautions a little more seriously to come and bid. Are you seeing that at all in any of your markets?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

I think the kind of customers that are attracted to us and the kind of general contractors and construction managers, one of the reasons they're picking us, amongst many reasons, is not just the precautions we would take with respect to COVID safety practices and health and welfare practices, it's how we run jobs to begin with. We have industry-leading safety. In fact, we just finished one of our best quarters ever in the first quarter. We would be in the top 1% or 2% of the industry on any safety metric. So I think that could be the case. But I think the kind of people that choose us anyway, one of the reasons they're choosing us is, one, because of our safety record and the care we have for our employees; because of our strong financial position, we tend to attract not only the best supervision and leadership in the field, we tend to attract some of the best tradespeople that there are.

Brent Thielman

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate that. And then on Building Services, I'm curious, do all these delays and kind of challenges getting into the building, does that create some pent-up demand to the extent that when you can get back into these facilities, we might anticipate seeing some spikes in work?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

It should. But I've never managed a company through a pandemic and what that startup will look like. So I'd venture to say, I wouldn't speculate. But in normal times, you usually don't get rewarded, you usually don't get rewarded for not doing or completing your pre-summer maintenance before it becomes 90 degrees with 95% humidity in parts of the country.

Brent Thielman

Analyst

Right. Okay. And I guess my last question is on Mechanical, the big jump in RPOs, I mean even from last quarter. And I think you had BKI in that last quarter. Is there a large job or something that's an outlier? Or is it just truly reflective of some...

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

BKI booked work just like we thought they would. We knew we bought a market leader. We knew they had terrific positions in some key Southwest markets, not only with respect to data centers, but also with respect to health care and larger institutional work with some higher education facilities. So they were part of the story, but the story is much bigger than those. We also booked some pharma work, which really only one job had anything to do with COVID. And that is one of the treatments, and I'll just leave it at that, that maybe someone might be gearing up for. But other than that, it was we had a strong booking quarter because we're in sectors that we think have long-term secular growth.

Brent Thielman

Analyst

Okay, thank you. I'll get back in queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And your next question will come from the line of Noelle Dilts from Stifel. Please go ahead, your line is now live.

Noelle Dilts

Analyst

I think so much, so I just kind of wanted to ask you guys how you're thinking, if you could expand upon how you're thinking about the non-resi market longer term. In some of the conversations we've had with construction economists, they've kind of suggested that there was less overbuild in the cycle, and so they think in 2021, as things normalize, it might be pretty the spending might be pretty close to 2019 levels. I'm just curious kind of, one, how you're thinking about that? And second, how you're thinking about the opportunity around more of the renovation work, if there may be some work around airflow management and even spacing given social distancing, sort of how you're thinking about those opportunities?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Yes. I mean, look, I think that trying to draw any conclusions off of what's happening today for the non-res market would be tough. Look, I think there's some underlying fundamentals that are pretty strong on the non-res side. I think the data infrastructure, I'm not even sure we're halfway where we're going to be in the next five years. I do think some repurposing of buildings will happen, some renovations will happen. I think people will continue to upgrade their HVAC systems. And you not only get better airflow, especially with some of the new control technology, but you also get a substantial energy savings. Now one of the things that are going to happen here with the operations of building, I think, over this next five months, and I don't think COVID is going to be forever. I mean, I don't think anybody does. So if we sort of fast forward a year, I think we're in a much better place. I think one of the things that are going to happen is the demand for energy is going to go up because you're going to be bringing more outside air. And as you bring in more outside air, it's untreated, but it's certainly good to dilute the space. But then you have to treat it and then you have to control for humidity more, which then controls creates more demand on the HVAC system. I think there's also things we can do to help with employees' mindset. Even before this, we were putting in UV lights and things like that on the coils and some of the fan sections, you can go to an improved filter. And so there's things you can do that could I mean, I'm certainly not saying that's for sure, but it would…

Noelle Dilts

Analyst

Great, thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And your next question will come from the line of Adam Thalhimer from Thompson Davis. Sir, your line is now live, please proceed.

Adam Thalhimer

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. Good morning, Do you feel like you know enough today to put some guideposts around Q2 EPS?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

No.

Adam Thalhimer

Analyst

That's what Comfort said. I mean could that loosely hold up for you guys?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

I think we gave you the building blocks, Adam. We said we're working 78% to 80% of capacity. That starts to frame the revenue side. How long that will last? We could be back up to 90% of capacity by the first of June. They're starting to put plans together in some of these major markets with the unions who, I think, in these major metropolitan areas, with the Governors, will determine whether the people come back to work. Because ultimately, it's about when the men and women on the trades feel comfortable about coming back to work. So does that happen May 15, does that happen June 1? We could go from 70% to 80%, we can go to 90% by the middle of May to early June. That could be June 15. We don't know that. We don't control that. So for me to sit here and tell you, I know that would presume that I know things that only the trade unions know and really the Governor's office knows. And that's all based on epidemiology and their models, and I can't even speculate about that. I know I also know that I expect that we'll make money in the second quarter, Mark, right?

Mark Pompa

Analyst

Yes.

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

And maybe I'll let Mark talk about that a little more. And I expect that second quarter is going to be tough for everybody. Third quarter, we should start to come back, whether this is a U or a V in our industry, I don't know. I would think there's a potential we'd be somewhere in between because we have jobs that will come back. And I think third quarter, we'll get stronger based on what we know today. And fourth quarter could even be stronger. But then there could be an outbreak again in the fourth quarter, of which I have no knowledge or experience with. I do expect things to normalize by like everybody else, by first quarter of next year. Certainly, second quarter next year should be a good comp versus second quarter this year, I would think so. But and then you got to say, okay, what's going on with productivity? For people to think that there's not going to be a productivity impact as we become accustomed to these new work rules, and wearing masks and wearing shields and sanitizing tools, all of the things we absolutely need to do to keep our workforce safe, you'd be kidding yourself. Now we will learn but we're also doing things to mitigate those. People have been fairly responsible about split shifts, disaggregating the work site, the scheduling has been better than ever in a lot of our places with our construction manager customers as they try to get density down on the jobs. But those are all things that the good news about being a contractor and having the kind of people that we have working for us is we're used to dealing with change and ambiguity. And our folks approach this just like any other problem. Mark?

Mark Pompa

Analyst

Yes. The only thing I mean I'll state the obvious, Adam. I mean, this company has never provided quarterly earnings guidance, and we're obviously not going to start that in 2020. But to echo Tony's comments, as we continue to refine our internal forecasting, we don't see any interim periods that will not be profitable. I will put a caveat on that though, that to the extent that market conditions don't improve, there's clearly going to be some pressure on impairment analysis relative to those parts of our business that have high levels of goodwill and intangible assets. So putting that to the side, if you look at the underlying core operations of all of our subsidiaries, despite the headwinds that we're all collectively facing and at the reduced capacities, we're still anticipating being a profitable business for all of our interim reporting periods for 2020.

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Here's what has been positive. And I think it, again, go to the position of our companies and markets, we're bidding and winning work right now. But I think one of the things everybody is going to have to think about, we're going to pop out the second quarter and say, backlog is likely to be up, right? Our RPOs are likely to be up because we don't usually get cancellations, and we sort of have a pretty good idea what's in there, obviously, of size, and we think there are projects that will go. But part of it is going to be up, and we're going to do our darn best to figure out what part of it. We didn't get revenue like we should have in the second quarter or aren't revenue like we should in the normal times. So there's going to be a little bit of a false positive there. I think the other thing you've got to sort of think about is decision making has slowed. And so for those larger projects, maybe outside of some of the faster pace work like data centers and those kind of works, I think there's going to be a lot more planning that's going to go on. And it's going to say, okay, we would have let that project maybe in June or July to start up in October, November, December, that planning might all push out, and you could be in a position where there's a little bit of gap in revenue, not overall revenue, but revenue that might have been maybe three to six months out from here.

Adam Thalhimer

Analyst

Yes. That was one of my key questions. So in certain sectors like retail, education, office buildings, where the assumption is that there's significant disruption, is the bidding really slow there? Or is it kind of still just not that bad?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Well, again, we don't play other than on the maintenance side. And even that is not a huge part of our business on the retail side. I mean we're just not competitive in that market, except for replacement work. For the well-capitalized retailers, which for the most part is where we are, those retailers have replacement work that they had scheduled. Some of them pushed it out a month, but they're already talking to about us what that schedule will look like. Instead of April, May, what it looks like in June and then what it looks like in September or October. And that would what would be our repair contingency plans around some of that work that was supposed to be replacement. And these are people that have prospered through this pandemic. As far as education, we mainly play in the retrofit side there. And it's geared towards although we don't make a lot of guarantees, almost none. It's geared towards energy savings-type work and equipment change out and control system upgrades. We're starting to see people talk to us about starting that work early because they don't plan on bringing students back to school. As far as the commercial work, we still see decent opportunity in the retrofit side. As of today, we don't have significant commercial exposure on high-rise office building construction. There wasn't that much of it going on. We do have some on residential high-rise. But I said before, that's less than 1.5% or 2% of what we do, and that would be embedded within commercial.

Adam Thalhimer

Analyst

Okay. And then, last one for me. When you talk about productivity impact, I mean, how do we how should we think about having to set a model? Like if you're in electrical, you're operating within a range of, call it, 6% to 8% usually. Mechanical is 5% to 7% usually. Can you still eke out? I mean can you stay in that range even with the revenue declines you're seeing?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Yes. I think as of today, yes, the answer would be because we've been at the higher end of that range. If we were in the lower end of the range, I'd be a lot less confident.

Adam Thalhimer

Analyst

Okay. Let's just great color. Thank you guys very much

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And presenters, your next question will come from the line of Joe Mondillo from Sidoti & Company. Sir, please proceed. Your line is now live

Joe Mondillo

Analyst

Hi guys, good morning. Doing well. Just a question on competition. What are you seeing there? Do you think any competition is at risk in this downturn? And you may benefit from it on the other side. Just wondering what you're seeing with competition?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Yes. Joe, look, there was competition. We always have competitors, and we have some really good competitors. I think there does tend to be more of a flight to quality in a downturn for significant projects. I think competition was at risk before they started, some of them, because they overextend their balance sheet as they grow. And a smaller contractor going from being $30 million to $60 million, many times does not work out well for them. I think there will be a, like there always is in a change, and this is an abrupt change, I think some people may say, you know what, this is a good time to pack it in. I can take my working capital off the table. And maybe I can go join one of these competitors I had in the local market. These tend to be the $20 million or $30 million company where the principal is really good at what they do. They tend to run that one or two large jobs themselves. And in the past, we've had some of those folks come to work for us. And I expect that to happen again. They'll come work for us for five or eight years and run big work for us, and they're great people. I never spend a lot of time worrying about what our competitors do. Again, I always go to the things I control and more appropriately, what our subsidiary or leadership controls. And so we bid work to first of all, we make sure that we have the people and resources to execute that work. And that's where we start. Do we have the people and resources to execute that work? Do we have the experience at EMCOR or specifically in that subsidiary, in a lot of cases, to do a really good job on that work technically? Then also we balance that, again, can we make money at it? And are we working for people that we actually want to work for on that job? And that's both on the service side and the construction side. And we put all that together, and that's how we decide what are the best opportunities. And then we think about the competition. I certainly, quite frankly, wish our competitors the best in this crisis. This is a terrible crisis and pandemic, and I hope they all come through it fine.

Joe Mondillo

Analyst

Okay, understand. Second question was related to the electrical RPOs. What do you make out of the RPOs there declining in the last several quarters? And what your thoughts are in that specific part of the business?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Yes, I think that's like a flywheel at EMCOR that just does great, has great margins, has great cash conversion, has terrific prospects. I don't read too much into that. That's the ebb and flow of work. And I know we have a very active bid log, and we booked some really great work in the Electrical segment over the last five or six weeks.

Joe Mondillo

Analyst

Okay. Last question. You provided a lot of information this morning and there's a lot going on, a lot of moving pieces with the economy in general, whatnot. What are your biggest sort of challenges managing the company from the executive level in this specific time period? And what are you looking at or maybe most concerned of regarding the situation?

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

I think you start with, you've got to do everything you can as a leader and set the climate that you expected as a leader, and this leadership team is with me here. I would say that we believe our primary responsibility right now is to make sure that we can execute the work safely and with the well-being of our employees in mind. And then we have to be able to accomplish that work to the technical specifications that our customers expect. This pandemic would not be excuse for us not delivering a quality product to our customers. I think then all the operating practices we've had at EMCOR takeover, right? We have very strong values-oriented company. We have a culture of focusing on the most important things, whether it be operationally or financially. And based on what you see with our balance sheet, I could Mark could take you through what is, and we're not going to do that right now, a very, very detailed cash planning that goes on and cash forecasting, whether the markets are good, bad, mediocre. It's just part of our DNA. And that DNA serves us well when thing times are good, and it serves us well when times are a little tougher. And one thing I don't lie awake worrying about is I'm really sure that EMCOR will come through this fine. EMCOR will come through this stronger than our competitors. And that our people will do the right thing in the field to protect the well-being of our employees. And one of the things we have to do as a leadership team, all the way down through the subsidiary leadership, is we've got to communicate, communicate, communicate. We have to be consistent in that communication. And we have to provide people…

Mark Pompa

Analyst

Of course, we did not.

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Right. And I think that shows right now. And we'll run the business like we always do, and we'll get to the other side of this.

Joe Mondillo

Analyst

Okay, thanks. Well, I hope you're all safe and well and good luck with everything

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Same to you. Joe, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions in the queue. Presenters, you may please continue.

Anthony Guzzi

Analyst

Look, we're clearly in unprecedented times. And for anybody that's listening, I know there's a lot of EMCOR employees listening, we'll all get through this, we'll come out strong. Unfortunately, everybody is making a lot of tough decisions right now. We hope to see everybody back to work, and we'll do that the right way too; we'll have everybody's safety in mind when we do that. But let's always remember, we also got to accomplish the mission we have for our customers, and our shareholders; and we will do that, too. And we couldn't be more proud of how everybody has responded. And we'll come out of the other side of this stronger. With that, thank you all very much, and everybody, be safe.

Operator

Operator

Again, thank you everyone for participating. This concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect. Stay safe, and have a lovely day.