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Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Fri, Feb 17, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Enbridge, Inc. and Enbridge Income Fund Holdings, Inc. 2016 Fourth Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Jonathan Gould, Director of Investor Relations. You may begin, sir.

Jonathan Gould - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Great. Thank you, Brandon. Good morning, and welcome to the Enbridge, Inc. and Enbridge Income Fund's fourth quarter 2016 earnings call. With me this morning are Al Monaco, President and CEO; John Whelen, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Guy Jarvis, Executive Vice President and President for Liquids Pipelines; Perry Schuldhaus, Vice President, Liquids Business Development and President of Enbridge Income Fund; and Wanda Opheim, Senior Vice President, Chief Accounting Officer. This call is webcast and I'd encourage those listening on the phone line to view the supporting slides, which are available on our website. A replay and podcast of the call will be available later today, and a transcript will be posted on the website shortly thereafter. The Q&A format will be the same as always. We'll take questions from the analyst community first and then invite questions from the media. I'll ask that you wait till the end of the prepared remarks to queue up for the questions and please limit your questions to two per person, then re-enter the queue if you have any additional queries. Also, the Investor Relations team will be available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have. On slide 2 before we begin, I'd like to point out that we will refer to forward-looking information in connection with Enbridge and the subject matter of today's call. By its nature, this information contains forecast, assumptions, and expectations about future outcomes, so we remind you that it is subject to the risks and uncertainties affecting every business, including ours. This slide includes a summary of the significant factors and risks that could affect Enbridge or could affect future outcomes for Enbridge, which are discussed more fully in our public disclosure filings available on both the SEDAR and EDGAR systems. So, with that, I'll turn it over to Al Monaco.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Thanks, Jonathan. Good morning, everybody. You should be looking at the agenda for today's call on the slide you have there. I'm going to start by recapping 2016 and then get into our business update, including the status of our secured capital program, and the new investment we announced this morning. John is going to take you through the financial results, and our funding position, and I'll wrap up with an update on the Spectra combination and our post-close investor outreach plan. So, I'm moving to slide 4. This slide captures in one spot how our 2016 accomplishments position us well for the future. We had an excellent year on safety and reliability and the work our teams have done to achieve industry leadership has paid off. Despite significant industry challenges, we're very pleased with the solid numbers we put up in 2016. A big contributor was great performance on our liquids mainline. In fact, we hit record throughput in December and 2017 and beyond look good as well. Our CAD 27 billion secured CapEx program is on track. We put CAD 2 billion into service last year with another CAD 6 billion slated for this year. We continue to add to the secured growth portfolio most recently with the Hohe See project. That's otherwise referred to as high seas in the English translation, so I'll use that. That's the offshore wind project in Europe, more on that one later. As you know, we've been focused on further strengthening the balance sheet. We haven't been shy about bringing a new equity to fund our secured capital commitments. So, we're in very good shape right now. And of course, with the Spectra transaction, we're now positioned extremely well strategically across a number of fronts. Turning now to slide 5, let's…

John K. Whelen - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Well, thanks, Al, and good morning, everyone. I'll pick things up here on slide 12 with a look at the performance of our businesses in both the fourth quarter and for the full year, focusing on adjusted EBIT, or earnings before interest and taxes, at the segment level. As you can see, it was a strong year overall. Adjusted EBIT was up CAD 80 million quarter-over-quarter and a little over CAD 500 million for the full year. These operating results put us in the top half of the EBIT guidance range we announced in late 2015 and reflect positive year-over-year contributions from our largest lines of business. The MD&A and news release provides a good breakdown of the performance of all the various sub-segments. I'll focus on some of the key factors that drove the results for each segment, starting at the top of the table with Liquids Pipelines. For the full year, adjusted EBIT generated by Liquids Pipelines was up CAD 574 million over 2015 driven by a few key factors. Firstly, strong performance from both the Canadian Mainline and Lakehead Systems, which as Al has already noted, delivered a record throughput, despite the impact of the Alberta Wildfires in the second quarter, and enabled by the systems expansions placed into service last year. Secondly, increased contributions from our Mid-Continent Pipelines, where total revenue increased due to higher take-or-pay volumes under existing contracts and lower apportionment on the Mainline upstream of the Flanagan South Pipeline. And finally, benefited from higher contributions from our Regional Oil Sands Pipelines reflecting new assets placed into service in the second half of 2015. Fourth quarter EBIT was up by CAD 62 million compared to the fourth quarter of last year, driven by higher contributions from the Lakehead System, which benefited from record deliveries…

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Thanks, John, and we're on slide 17 here. I'm going to conclude with an update on where we are on the Spectra transaction. The map here is really just meant to be a quick reminder of why the combination makes so much strategic and financial sense for us. I think you're all well grounded, so I won't go through this entire list, but maybe just point out a couple of things. Essentially, we're going from three to six strategic business platforms, which are going to drive out that CAD 48 billion in risked opportunities beyond 2019. It extends the industry-leading ACFFO growth rate and the visibility of our 10% to 12% annual dividend growth outlook into the mid next decade. Further bolsters the balance sheet, funding flexibility and diversification of cash flows, and all of this is captured without sacrificing the strong value proposition, commercial underpinnings and the high predictability of cash flows that you've become to know us for. We felt pretty good about this combination back on September 6, when we announced it, but even more positive today and here's why I say that. Firstly, commodity prices since then has stabilized, and we're more bullish on a sustained recovery. Very good news for our customers. But it also means more infrastructure is going to be required. Second, the political landscape in North America shifted to, let's call it, a more balanced tone for energy and infrastructure development. We've seen strong conviction from the federal and provincial governments in Canada in recent months to advance infrastructure, and we see that happening as well in the United States on economic growth and a positive stance on energy. We're very well positioned to benefit from all of these dynamics, particularly given our greater exposure to the U.S. market post-Spectra. So,…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. And we'll now take questions from the analyst community. From RBC Capital Markets, we have Robert Kwan on line. Please go ahead.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

Thanks, good morning.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Good morning.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

I'm just wondering, as you think about the announcements at EEP, can you just talk about what drove the decision to make the statement that you didn't see bringing EEP back up top as an option and just generally some thoughts on the sponsored vehicle strategies you're going forward?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Sure. Well, essentially Robert, maybe I should start off – we recognize there's a lot of roll ups going on out there but recognize that no two situations are alike and we study this at length. The strategic review that we started out with for EEP did assess that alternative and that's the conclusion we came to. A couple of reasons, first of all, we do believe still that the MLP structure can be an effective tax advantaged vehicle. I think that's been proven in the past and there are many instances today where that vehicle is effective in a number of cases, including the Enbridge Income Fund and we know SEP at Spectra is a very capable vehicle. It's also proven for us to be a pretty good source of capital and we pull that lever when it makes a lot sense. And for us, we view it as having a good alternative source of capital. Obviously, that cost of capital has to be effective and for EEP, it hasn't been necessarily over the last couple of years. From Enbridge's perspective though, the transaction – roll-up transaction would need to make financial sense for Enbridge shareholders, and would need to be attractive there, too. One of the factors that I think differentiates us somewhat with some of the other situations is the fact that our tax position is different than some. In our case, we have limited ability at this point to utilize a step-up that would come with a roll-up like that, at least for the time being. So, those are the factors that went into our assessment, and that's why we're assessing other alternatives right now in the case of EEP.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

I guess I'll – can I ask a really a quick follow-up? You just mentioned limited ability as a step-up, but you said kind of right now. Is there something in the works that might cure that in a relatively near- to medium-term?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

I would say probably not. If you look at our tax position today in the United States, that's not really utilizable at this point. And remember too, with the Spectra transaction, one of the things we talked about in terms of our tax position is that we'll be able to utilize some of the losses that we have outstanding right now against Spectra's income going forward. So it's not something that I would say is in the immediate term.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

Okay. And if I can just finish with the mainline, kind of tolling or question. You commented that you expect the Canadian Residual Toll to increase, and I guess just based on the timing, I suspect that refers to – or is that referring to an expected reduction in the Lakehead toll? And if that's the case, is that the cost of service portion or the index based – based on the PPI? And then more broadly, as you think about the Lakehead toll going forward, do you have any thoughts if we see U.S. tax reform reduce the corporate tax rate, what you think FERC might do as it relates to cost of service based tolls and the index based toll?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

So, Robert, it's Guy. I think I'll take that in a couple of parts. First, in turn, we do expect that the EEP tolls will be going down if they're filing on April 1 of this year. A couple of contributors, first off, some of the macroeconomic factors that are driving their tolls that you referenced are lower than would have otherwise been expected. The strength of our throughputs actually in 2016 means that there's not much of a volume true-up from the cost of service elements rolling through their toll. So, as that toll comes down, we'll benefit with the Canadian Residual Toll. I think, in terms of your question around the tax implications around MLPs and whatnot, we really haven't dove into that in the context of what that means for the EEP toll versus the Canadian Residual Toll. We're very active through various associations in keeping on top of that matter, but have nothing definitive in terms of exactly how that translates down to the toll.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

Right. And, Guy, actually my question was less about the whole can MLP's collect tax in tolls, more so just around a pure reduction in the corporate tax rate, and what you think FERC might do to adjust just the cost of service buildup of a lower tax collection due to a lower tax rate?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. It's hard to imagine how they would address that the way the index tolling is working right now. I think the index toll is designed to leave some of that risk and reward with the pipeline companies for changes like that. So, I think our position would be that the index tolling mechanism deals with a situation like that.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

Okay. That's great. Thank you very much.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From CIBC World Markets, we have Robert Catellier on the line. Please go ahead.

Robert Catellier - CIBC World Markets, Inc.

Management

Hey, good morning. Thank you and congratulations on the FTC approval. This is a great outcome.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Thank you.

Robert Catellier - CIBC World Markets, Inc.

Management

I was wondering if you could help us with the remaining Competition Bureau review in Canada. Specifically, can you let us know if the Express-Platte Pipeline was part of the FTC review or are there still competition issues there being addressed by the Canadian Competition Bureau?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Hi, Robert. Obviously, we'd like to give you more information on that. I think all we can really say is that all the information that's been requested by the Bureau, we provided. We continue to work with them. So, we really can't get into any specific matters that are under their review. It's their file. They're looking at it. And when they conclude their review, I'm sure they'll be coming out with their views on it. So, apologies for not being able to get into that detail, but it's just not something we can do right now.

Robert Catellier - CIBC World Markets, Inc.

Management

Okay then. Maybe a quick update on Line 3 permitting; there's been some advancement, notably there's been a draft EIS filed on Alberta Clipper. And can you maybe just walk through the way forward on Alberta Clipper and if you see that derisking the combined capacity of those two pipelines?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Right. Well, on Clipper, you're right. The environmental report was put forward, as we expected. It was very clean. And so, we don't really expect any issues on that front. The timing obviously is still, I guess, a little bit uncertain, but generally we feel that it's on track and the permit should be received later this year at some point. Right now, of course, the workarounds that we designed allow us to use the capacity on the system downstream of the border. So, I think we're in good shape there. And, as I said earlier on, certainly more positive tone with respect to Federal permitting in the United States, so we don't expect any issues there going forward.

Robert Kwan - RBC Capital Markets

Management

Okay, thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From Scotia Bank, we have Rob Hope on line. Please go ahead.

Robert C. Hope - Scotia Capital Inc.

Management

Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Continuing on, in the U.S., can you just give us some updated thoughts on the Line 5 easement concerns there, potential path forward as well as broadly speaking, how you're thinking about the expiring easements for some of your legacy pipelines?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

This is Guy. I'll tackle that one. So, in terms of the Line 5 easement situation, we've been able to open up the channels of communication again, the tribe on that matter, and we're hopeful that those are going to lead us to find again an amenable long-term solution. I think what we've learned is that we've got a couple of integrity digs that we're going to be doing on the system that are on the right-of-way in their territory, and it was really their concern and understanding exactly what was going on with the pipeline in those integrity digs that seem to have led them to take a position that they had earlier in the year. So, we're pretty confident that we can get in and have a full engagement with them in terms of the safety of the pipeline and all the measures we take to keep it safe and find ways that we do that on a sustainable basis with them, so that they don't find themselves in positions of not having a good understanding of the pipeline that's in their territory. And I think that's really – if you ask what are we trying to do more broadly, I think it's that. I think we're taking steps to increase our engagement with all of our landowners to make sure that they understand the nature of how it is that we're managing the safety of our operations, right down to their individual tract of property. So, it is a significant step up in terms of engagement that we believe we need to do, and we've been at it for better part of two years now and will continue to do that.

Robert C. Hope - Scotia Capital Inc.

Management

All right. Thank you for that color. Is there any statistics you could provide just to give a sense of how much of your easements will be expiring over the next five years?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

I don't have a broad base of statistics, other than I can indicate that I think the one that's nearest to expiry is still, I think, three to four years out into the future, and we're well advanced in talks on renewing that.

Robert C. Hope - Scotia Capital Inc.

Management

All right. Thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Just I'll add a quick point on that. What we're seeing here perhaps has been elevated externally in terms of some of the questions, which I think are quite legitimate. This isn't entirely new, and we've been, I'd say, very successful over the decades in dealing with renewals. And it comes essentially down to what Guy said around collaborating with communities, and generally, we'll work through these issues very well. In this particular case, there's, as Guy said, a concern around the particular tract, and we'll work very collaboratively with that particular community going forward.

Operator

Operator

Okay. From Canaccord Genuity, we have David Galison. Please go ahead.

David Galison - Canaccord Genuity Corp.

Management

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

David Galison - Canaccord Genuity Corp.

Management

So, just on the renewables side, so in the context of the criteria that you sort of laid out for renewables, can you talk a bit about maybe the magnitude of the opportunities that you're seeing outside there, outside of the ones that have already been announced?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Well, I guess maybe, David, it sort of comes back to the basic fundamental that's driving this. If you look at Europe right now, the target is likely to have – you're probably going to see 50% of the power coming from renewables over the next decade or two here. So, there's been a lot of projects developed but there's a lot more to come, and I think this will likely come about in several different countries – probably three or four main ones. We're seeing lots of flow actually on this. The question for us really is not so much the size of the opportunity set but making sure that the projects that we're pursuing fit the criteria that we have there. I mean, there's some activity that we're just not interested in, in terms of the types of returns and the types of bids that you see in some of them. So, we're going to be pretty selective still in making sure that the criteria that we establish get addressed when we're looking at these new projects. So, I'd say the opportunity set generally is quite large, and we've got a team in Europe looking at these opportunities, scouring and looking through them. And so, hopefully there'll be more coming along. I wouldn't want to make a prediction as to how many megawatts or how many billions that really drives out for us over the next five or 10 years. The approach we take really is – if they fit the criteria, we'll look at them. We've got so many other opportunities across the entire company, we can afford to be very selective in what we're looking at.

David Galison - Canaccord Genuity Corp.

Management

Okay. And then just to touch on the Line 3. Still if things move along and draft EIS completed in April. Are we still looking at 2019 timing, like, can you give any color on whether it'd be early, mid, later half or how you're thinking about that?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I'm not sure we can be that specific. I think we're pretty comfortable saying 2019 but it's really going to depend on a number of timing issues related to both completion of the EIS and then the routing review after that. So, unfortunately, it's hard to say whether it's the beginning, middle or end at this point, being more specific I just – we can't just do at this point.

David Galison - Canaccord Genuity Corp.

Management

Okay. Thank you very much.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Form TD Securities we have Linda Ezergailis. Please go ahead.

Linda Ezergailis - TD Securities, Inc.

Management

Thank you. Maybe if I can just build on some questions around your offshore wind. I guess when you announced your French wind investment last May, there was a suggestion that it was at a slightly earlier investment point compared to the Rampion project and that over time maybe you'd be able to move to almost a pre-development stage and build those offshore wind projects in-house. And I'm just wondering what your thoughts are in terms of maybe capturing some of those higher returns potentially by investing earlier in the process because this investment here seems to be more of a financial investment at this point?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Well, mainly just on your last point to clarify, I think the fact that it is somewhat de-risked I guess if you look at where we are on the project. I don't think it should imply that we wouldn't be involved in the development and operations, and execution. The whole premise of this particular one was to move us up the curve exactly to what you're pointing to, which is to become more and more involved. And the condition that we had on this investment is that we'd become equal partners, and that means development, operations, execution. So, we have people dedicated to exactly that. More broadly on your question, Linda, I think it's a good point. There always is a balance between taking on more risk and potentially a higher return being at the very front end of these development projects versus perhaps investing a little bit later in the cycle when the project is de-risked. I think, generally speaking, as we get more and more capable on the development side, we'll probably get into building an inventory of those kinds of opportunities. And ultimately, as I said earlier, we want this to be sustainable growth platform, and that means being involved most likely in various points in time around the development curve. So I think ultimately, we'd like to get to what you're alluding to, but we're always careful given again, the number of opportunities we have to select the ones that fit best at the time, and this one certainly works out well for us because it's a very strong return project. But for us, it's been relatively de-risked, I guess, is the way we look at it.

Linda Ezergailis - TD Securities, Inc.

Management

Okay, Thank you. And maybe just as my follow-up question, looking at U.S. tax reforms, I realize it's early days, but your presence in the U.S. is going to be growing significantly shortly. And I'm just wondering how your – what your preliminary thoughts on kind of the range of possible effects for Enbridge? I realize there's some positive and negative puts and takes probably, on not just a corporate tax rate reduction, but also a loss of interest expense deductibility offset by kind of a better ability to deduct capital investments. And within that, does this affect your views on the potential degree of accretion of your pending Spectra merger?

John K. Whelen - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Linda, it's John. I mean, those are all things that obviously we're looking at and examining, and we'll look to optimize going forward. I think to answer your last question first, I don't think it's going to have any kind of a material impact on our outlook for the accretiveness of the transaction at the end of the day. We're going to have to watch, and obviously, it's a developing situation, and it's a little – unclear exactly how any new tax legislation will be implemented. Generally, a lower tax environment is better, but we'll have to see how it plays out over time. I'd say it's probably too early to tell, but there's a lot of things strategically that we'll look at in terms of our financial structure and financial planning to hopefully manage those efficiencies going forward.

Linda Ezergailis - TD Securities, Inc.

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

From Citi, we have Vikram Bagri on line. Please go ahead.

Vikram Bagri - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Management

Hey, guys. Good morning. On offshore wind projects, we've seen pretty significant decreases in CapEx on turbines and even higher, close to 30% reductions in operating costs. But that is somewhat balanced by decrease in subsidy. So, how should we think about return on your offshore wind investments in Europe? Is it still in high-single digits or – and if you can provide some color on opportunity to reduce CapEx further on announced projects? And any color on – updates on French Offshore Wind project?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Well first of all, you mentioned something about high-single digits. I have to be upfront. We wouldn't be that excited about high-single digit equity returns on our offshore wind projects, that's for sure. As to what you're pointing out, I think it's a good observation. With any kind of industry like this that's been developing now for a couple of decades, there's a phase of, I guess, initial subsidy. But we never really anticipated that those subsidies, whether it's in Europe or elsewhere, would continue indefinitely. And I think that as costs come down – as I said earlier, size of turbines and understanding of wind resources and so forth, that allows for lower subsidization. But for sure, we're going to monitor those two aspects of it, the degree of subsidization and the cost structure. They've come nicely together, I guess I would say, for the projects we're involved with. On the French projects, we continue to be very excited about this. I think we've said in the past, on calls, that the commercial underpinnings for the French projects, the three very large ones there, are extremely attractive. In fact, probably the best commercial underpinnings that we've encountered. And we're in there of course with a great partner as well. So, perhaps the only other thing to add there is that they're nicely spaced out over the next several years in terms of their FIDs and execution plans. So, they provide a nice level of growth for us over the next five to six years once those get FID'd. And they're not quite at FID stage yet but hopefully they'll get there hopefully by the end of this year.

Vikram Bagri - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Management

Great. And as a follow-up, I understand you will discuss updated guidance once the acquisition closes. But longer term, I'm looking at ENB standalone 2019 ACFFO per share guidance of CAD 4.50 to CAD 5. Assuming Spectra's acquisition is accretive to ACFFO per share, I was wondering what is baked into that guidance? Does that include some of the risk projects going forward and also if that includes your French offshore investment going forward?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Just to clarify, are you talking out to 2019?

Vikram Bagri - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Management

Yes.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. So, I'm not sure, the number that you had there sounded light. It's CAD 5.50 to CAD 6 I believe the guidance we've provided. And what that includes essentially for 2019 is all of our secured capital projects between the two companies. So, it really doesn't include any of the risk probability projects, the CAD 48 billion we were talking about, which really come into play post 2019. So, hopefully that helps your thinking around it.

Vikram Bagri - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Management

Good, that's all I had. Thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

From Goldman Sachs, we have Ted Durbin. Please go ahead. Theodore Durbin - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Good morning. Could you give us a sense of the asset sales, how much EBITDA or EBIT was associated with the asset sales?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Oh, John, I'm not sure if we have the EBITDA forecast. I guess maybe out of the ones that John talked about in his remarks, the EBITDA that's related to those has been reflected in, I guess, the income fund guidance related to the sale of the EPSI System. The other ones that are being referred to in John's comments are, I would say probably fairly minor in terms of EBITDA contributions. Would you expand on that, John?

John K. Whelen - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah, I think that's right. Wanda, did you have the EBIT for EPSI roughly?

Wanda M. Opheim - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah, the EBIT for EPSI would have been around CAD 50 million, John.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

That's as I said. That baked into the guidance that John talked about for the fund. Theodore Durbin - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay, that's helpful. And then, any thoughts on, you'd spoken to maybe increasing amount of asset monetizations beyond the sort of CAD 2 billion where you're headed on that?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Well, as John referred, we could exceed that amount, but really it's going to depend on what we see for valuations. I think it's a pretty good market honestly with respect to interest we're seeing in some of our assets that aren't – is core to us, that maybe core to somebody else. So, pretty good interest there. We're not driven necessarily by exceeding the CAD 2 billion, but certainly if – we get some interest in some of the things that we have that people might be keen on and then we'll certainly look at that. At the end of the day, we've got so many growth opportunities out there. If we can find something at a very strong valuation that's somebody's keen on and redirect that, I guess, release the equity into organic programs that we have between Spectra and ourselves, then that would certainly be a good trade. Theodore Durbin - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Great. And then, if I could ask one more just on the synergies. As you get closer to close here, the timing of realizing the CAD 540 million, sort of, on a year-by-year basis between now and 2019?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I guess getting into that level of granularity is not going to be possible at this time, Ted. I will say that it'll be fairly even is our guess through the next couple of years. Obviously, these things take a bit of time to ramp up. I will say, we're pretty confident in the CAD 540 million, that's for sure. The integration planning that we've done with Spectra up to this point. And just as a reminder, that is only planning at this point. We can't execute given the combination is not finalized. But certainly, we feel good about it. It'll probably be graduated through the next couple of years and that's sort of where we are on it. Theodore Durbin - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay. That's helpful. Thank you very much.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Thanks, Ted.

Operator

Operator

From National Bank Financial, we have Patrick Kenny. Please go ahead.

Patrick Kenny - National Bank Financial, Inc.

Management

Thank you. Hey, guys. Maybe a question for Guy, but just back to Al's comments on how much new takeaway capacity is needed next decade over and above Line 3? Just wanted to clarify what that means for the Line 61 Mainline expansion having just closed by Bakken Pipeline System? Are negotiations with shippers for twinning Line 61 somewhat on hold here until you see TMX or KXL go ahead or will Line 61 be going head-to-head with KXL through 2017?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I think the best way I would characterize our approach right now is, Al referenced an ability to potentially add some more capability out of Western Canada in 2019 that's commensurate with the start-up of the Line 3 replacement. That is our primary focus right now is on dealing with those incremental opportunities, and the reason for that is we think we can do them without doing anything ex-superior like you're referring to. Certainly, when we get talking about post 2019 capacity, all of our options are on the table. And I think, as it relates to Line 61, it really will boil down to whether we're going with more of a staged approach or whether there is a desire for customers to have more of a larger solution coming at one point in time. So, that is part of our mix. We're not actively pursuing it along the right-of-way any longer right now, but it is part of the mix.

Patrick Kenny - National Bank Financial, Inc.

Management

Okay. That's great. Thank you. And then just lastly on Alliance. I wanted to get your thoughts since it's been a year, full-year now since the new tooling structure came into effect and of course we continue to see growth in the Montney and now the Duvernay basically right on top of Alliance. So just wondering what the vision here is for Alliance over the coming years? Debottlenecking versus larger scale expansion, and maybe how you see Alliance positioned in the Midwest market relative to some of the other pipeline proposals coming into the Midwest?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Lots in that question. So, let me start by saying that, if you go back a couple of years here, when I think there was some concern about filling up the line and contracting it up, I think we always believe that evacuating gas and the growth outlook that we saw, out of the areas that you're talking about looked very attractive and along with that, I think, Alliance has done a very good job of managing the cost structure. So, both on the revenue side and the cost side, I think, the outlook for Alliance becomes very strong and very competitive relative to some of the other opportunities. The real meat behind that, I guess, is the fact that we can move liquids in the line and it is very unique from that perspective and actually fits extremely well with where the basin is going in terms of – with NGL growth coming out of Western Canada. We're looking at some potential right now, around expansions. I won't be too specific as to whether or not that's debottlenecking or looping or that kind of thing. So, it's probably a little bit too early to tell, but for sure, I think Alliance is extremely well-positioned to get liquids into the Chicago market. Obviously, with Aux Sable sitting there, a very large fractionation position, it's extremely well-positioned to make sure that it continues to move gas into that region. And the equation for producers is obviously not just dry gas ones, so the fact that you've got NGL is really the way to think of it almost. Alliance is a big gathering system for all this NGL into a very strong market with good fractionation capability in Chicago.

Patrick Kenny - National Bank Financial, Inc.

Management

All right. Thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, we would like to invite members of the media to join the queue for questions. And we do have a follow up finally from Linda Ezergailis. Please go ahead.

Linda Ezergailis - TD Securities, Inc.

Management

Oh. Thank you. Just very quickly, I know you're going to be giving guidance in a little bit but maybe even at just the Enbridge Income Fund level you can help us get a sense of kind of your long-term updated run-rate on maintenance CapEx? I know that some from 2016 slipped into 2017 as well as any sort of indications on how cash taxes might be trending? I know they're low and will likely continue to remain low. And then, any commentary that you can make on those two line items with respect to either Enbridge on a standalone basis or potentially even combined, if I can throw that out?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Okay. I think, Wanda or John?

Wanda M. Opheim - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Sure. Al, I can take that. This is Wanda, Linda. On the fund items for maintenance capital, we see that as we think about our guidance sort of CAD 90 million to CAD 140 million, that's kind of the range we would say for maintenance capital. And on the current income taxes as we think about what we have in our projections, a range of CAD 65 million to CAD 75 million. And at this time on Enbridge, we'll probably just wait until we come out for the full guidance later in May.

John K. Whelen - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

I would agree with that, Linda. I think that's the logical time to come out and give better guidance once we're a combined company and we'll be under the hood, so to speak.

Linda Ezergailis - TD Securities, Inc.

Management

Okay. And then, maybe just as a very quick follow-up on your mainline. Given your commentary on integrity digs and dealing with Line 5 and potential kind of renewables of permitting, that would not have materially changed your maintenance outlook for the mainline from a CapEx perspective, correct?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

That's correct.

Linda Ezergailis - TD Securities, Inc.

Management

Okay. Thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From Platts, we have Ashok Dutta. Please go ahead. Ashok Dutta - S&P Global Platts, Inc.: Hi. Good morning.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Good morning. Ashok Dutta - S&P Global Platts, Inc.: I had a couple of very quick questions. Al, you mentioned about adding another 100,000 barrels per day of light crude by Q2. Is that going to be primarily directed towards Pad 2? And what kind of shipper interest do you have in hand?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

I think Guy is probably ready to answer that one.

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

So, It's Guy. Like AI mentioned, really what we're referencing there is we have now created and made available to our shippers kind of the boundaries of a quality of crude that we think we can ship as a medium blend and potentially utilize some of the light capacity in our system that becomes available from time-to-time. It's not a single crude. It's a range within which refiners, or producers, or marketers could blend and create a specific crude. So, I'm aware that we have customers on all parts of our system evaluating how they might be able to use that. So, I wouldn't say that it's specific to any one group. Ashok Dutta - S&P Global Platts, Inc.: Okay. Thank you. And the next question, Al, you also said – if you could just walk me through this. So, over and above Line 3, you said that you were looking at adding another 175,000 by 2019. Could you explain how that is going to come about?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Well, Guy, do you want to provide some more detail on that?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Actually, I don't want to provide a whole lot more detail because we're in conversations with our customers about that at this time. And when (71:08) we have the details hashed out with our customers, we'll be more than happy to share that at the time.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

But what we're talking about there is essentially expansions or incremental offerings within the existing envelope of the mainline and greater efficiencies and so forth that would add increments that are driven by when the supply profile kicks in. So, it's really modifications, you could look at it that way, to the existing system. And Guy is right. We probably shouldn't get specific about what types they are at the moment. Ashok Dutta - S&P Global Platts, Inc.: Okay. And a last question, how is Line 9B getting along in terms of throughput volumes?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Running pretty full at the moment, Guy, is that right?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yes.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. Ashok Dutta - S&P Global Platts, Inc.: All right. Thank you very much. That's all.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From The Financial Post, we have Geoffrey Morgan. Please go ahead.

Geoffrey Morgan - The Financial Post

Management

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Just wanted to come back from the comment from early in the call about existing capacity in Line 3 providing enough capacity into the next decade, is your view that only one other pipeline proposal, which is currently out there right now, is necessary to meet the supply from the WCSB over the next 10 years? So, there are three major projects, Trans Mountain, Energy East, Keystone XL out there right now. Is your view that only one is necessary?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Well, first of all, I think what I said was it really depends on what producers and refiners would like to see in terms of ultimate capacity. It will be their call, but strictly speaking, as I said, if you look at the supply profile, and you look at our expansion, replacement capacity for Line 3, and one other pipeline, that should suffice based on the current supply outlook out to at least mid next decade. So, that's how the capacity and the volumes line up at the moment. But as I said, ultimately, it'll be up to the customers and producers to determine how much excess capacity they would like. And obviously, if volumes change and there's more growth coming out of the basin, that will change the outlook that we have for capacity that's needed.

Geoffrey Morgan - The Financial Post

Management

Okay. Thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From Reuters, we have Nia Williams. Please go ahead.

Nia Williams - Thomson Reuters

Management

Hi, there. Thanks for taking my question. You talked about Line 5 in Wisconsin and the easements there. Could you also talk a bit about what you're doing with regards to concerns about Line 5 in Michigan and the Straits of Mackinac? Is Enbridge taking concrete steps, other than the two reports that are due to, to deal with this one?

D. Guy Jarvis - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. It's Guy. I can jump in. So, we're always taking concrete steps to manage the Straits of Mackinac. I think if you looked at our entire system, there is no other segment of our pipeline that gets more attention and more levels of integrity management than those two pipes under the Straits. Going through it a little bit more broadly, our focus is with the task force that's been established in the State of Michigan. The State has engaged independent experts to do an analysis of the Straits and our Integrity Management Program. And we're providing whatever information to that exercise that is asked of us, and stand ready to continue to engage on the safety with the state and with our Federal regulators and anybody else.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

I think that's right. In a nutshell, fair to say that we're all over this for sure, given the importance of the Straits and our desire to make sure that we're running the system well and preventing any incident. Also, note as well, aside from the task force that the pipeline regulator, PHMSA, has done quite a detailed review. And, as you can imagine, we're always in contact with the regulator. And they are making sure that we're managing the system well.

Nia Williams - Thomson Reuters

Management

Okay. Thanks.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From The Globe & Mail, we have Kelly Cryderman. Please go ahead. Kelly Cryderman - The Globe & Mail, Inc.: Hi, there. Good morning. I'm wondering if you can provide more detail about why the Wood Buffalo Project is delayed from Q2 of this year to Q4.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Well, in terms of the Wood Buffalo pipeline, of course, our job is to make sure that it's ready for service, which essentially will be very shortly, as I said, pipeline construction is just about complete. And so that's what the task is for us. Obviously, with very large projects like this on the upstream side, from Fort Hills partners' position, there is a little bit of variability as to when first oil is achieved. And they'd let us know that that's going to happen at the end of the year here. So, that's when we'll begin the in-service operations. But we'll just ready to go ourselves, actually. Kelly Cryderman - The Globe & Mail, Inc.: So, it's not on your end, the delay, it's at Fort Hill's?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Oh, yeah. Sorry. No. The pipeline is – will be ready to go probably by May I think, the time is Guy (01:16:53). And we wanted to be ready in case the Fort Hills production was ready to flow then. As I said, we've been told by the producers that it will be later this year. So, it's really – from our side of it, the line will be ready. Kelly Cryderman - The Globe & Mail, Inc.: And just one more follow-up. You mentioned in your remarks the more positive environment for energy development in Canada and the U.S. and I assume you're speaking about a more positive voice on energy development from the White House and from the U.S. Congress. What about the opposition to new pipeline projects that remains at the state level, on the ground among indigenous communities? Do you think that will become more important, less important in this – in this new, as you stated, more positive era for energy development?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

That's a very good question actually, and I'm glad you asked it because it allows me to kind of clarify this issue. Generally, it is more positive. If you look at what Canada has done in terms of new project approvals and the diligence that they're going through in terms of consultation and additional environmental work, I think that's very positive. The stance in the U.S. obviously, has changed a bit now and they're certainly positive on energy, generally. And remember that, the way we look at life is that, North America has a real competitive advantage, we believe, on energy. And I think, the conditions are certainly improving at a macro level. But really at the state level and in terms of communities, there's a lot of work still that needs to be done and the way we try and attack that several perspectives being very progressive on safety and environmental protection ensuring that the public still has trust in what we're doing. There's a lot of things that we're moving forward on in terms of advocacy, focusing on the value of energy and how sustainably we develop it in North America and keep our communities safe. So, those are the things that we continue to work on, working closely with communities, listening to their concerns, which are legitimate and then working with them to make sure that we are doing what we need to keep the environment safe. Kelly Cryderman - The Globe & Mail, Inc.: Thank you.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

From The Canadian Press, we have Ian Bickis. Please go ahead.

Ian Bickis - The Canadian Press

Management

Yes. Thanks for taking my question. Now, sticking with that topic a little bit. On the Bakken deal, obviously, it was delayed a bit because of all the protests and everything. I was just curious if Enbridge was – ever considered pulling out of the deal? And if not, how you went through the thought process of balancing the questionable social license with the business leads (01:19:58) there?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I'm sorry. I missed a part of it. Were you talking about Dakota Access?

Ian Bickis - The Canadian Press

Management

Yes.

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. All right. So, look, there's obviously different points of view on that project. The way we looked at it – and by the way, we expect to be a strong partner in this investment. We did a lot of work beforehand to assess the work that Energy Transfer had done in this area, and we were quite satisfied that they had done a pretty good job. The way we look at the project overall is, from an energy security point of view, it's very important and our customers are looking for ways to move crude in a safe way and that's our job at the end of the day. I think, it's been constructed with the best technology that's out there. And as I said earlier, I think Energy Transfer has put a big priority on safety, which is certainly what very much in line with our view of things. Good opportunities for workers on a project like that and at the end of the day, very focused on stakeholder views. So, we were quite satisfied. We did thorough review of all the actions there, and I think all that has been pretty much confirmed with all of the works that's been done subsequently by the courts in reviewing the challenges. So, we're pleased with the investment. We think it's strategic. We think it's important to energy security.

Ian Bickis - The Canadian Press

Management

Okay. And on the renewable side, do you – with this project, do you have a percentage of – or you have plans for further renewable growth or a target for how much renewables make up your whole portfolio?

Albert Monaco - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Yeah, you may have missed the earlier comment on that. Broadly speaking, we think renewables for us, particularly offshore renewables in Europe are a good opportunity, but they're only one opportunity in the very big inventory we have particularly post-Spectra, we'll have a very large opportunity set to pursue in oil pipelines, liquids, natural gas pipelines, NGLs. So our renewables will be a component on that. We don't really put a target per se of how much we'd like to invest renewables because I think that puts the cart ahead of the horse I think. So, we look at opportunities as they arise but the fundamentals for renewables continue to be very strong.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now turn it back to Jonathan Gould for closing remarks.

Jonathan Gould - Enbridge, Inc.

Management

Okay. Thanks, Brandon. Nothing further to add at our end but as usual, myself and the IR team will be available right away for any follow-up calls. So, thank you everyone and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.