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Evolus, Inc. (EOLS)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 8, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Evolus' Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded and webcast live. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Nareg Sagherian, Vice President and Head of Global Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.

Nareg Sagherian

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and welcome to everyone joining us on today's call to review Evolus' third quarter financial results. Our third quarter press release is now on our website at evolus.com. With me today are David Moatazedi, President and Chief Executive Officer; Tatjana Mitchell, Chief Financial Officer; and Rui Avelar, Chief Medical Officer and Head of R&D. Today's call will include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties outlined in our earnings press release and SEC filings. These forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions, and we undertake no obligation to update them. Additionally, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. These measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for our GAAP results. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's earnings release. As a reminder, our earnings release and SEC filings are available on the SEC's website and on our Investor Relations website. Following the conclusion of today's call, a replay will be available on our website at investors.evolus.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, David Moatazedi.

David Moatazedi

Analyst

Thank you, Nareg, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we begin, I'd like to take a moment to welcome Tatjana Mitchell as our new Chief Financial Officer. Tatjana brings deep financial and operational expertise to Evolus, and she's made an immediate impact as we strengthen our focus on efficiency and long-term growth. The third quarter marks an important transition for Evolus. And before I discuss the results, I want to take a moment to recognize the outstanding efforts of our team. Over the past year, we successfully created or expanded a number of capabilities, solidifying the foundation for long-term growth. Most notably, our medical education platform has evolved into a comprehensive training ecosystem, working with world-renowned experts in the field of aesthetics to engage more than 17,000 injectors year-to-date through cadaver labs, in-office hands-on sessions, mobile training with our Evolus bots across 100 events and digital webcasts. Our Evolus consumer loyalty program has now grown to more than 1.3 million members, up 34% year-on-year, with nearly 70% returning customers, underscoring the strength of our consumer engagement. Our first-in-class Evolux co-branded media program has reached over 1,400 accounts year-to-date and generated over 300 million media impressions to digital, billboard and streaming campaigns, further amplifying awareness of the Evolus brand. Our Evolysse launch is off to an incredible start. To date, more than 4,000 customers have completed hands-on training and the majority have purchased Evolysse. One of the key insights we've learned is that first training builds familiarity and comfort with the product, while the second training is what drives meaningful adoption. In fact, 75% of Evolysse revenue comes from accounts that have participated in hands-on training, and we've seen a 100% increase in purchasing volume when an account is trained the second time. This clearly underscores the value of continued education in…

Rui Avelar

Analyst

Thank you, David. Since the launch of Form and Smooth here in the U.S., the feedback continues to be consistent. This line of gels are described as being efficient in that a given amount of product goes a long way. They have a low inflammatory profile and are very versatile. On the development side, Evolysse Sculpt is our HA injectable that targets the premium mid-face volume market and is currently making its way through the FDA process. In August, the first disclosure of the data was presented. The study compared Sculpt to Restylane Lyft in a prospective double-blind randomized trial and enrolled 304 patients in a 3:1 ratio. Using a validated 5-point scale, patients with moderate, severe or extreme mid-face volume deficit were eligible for treatment, then followed for 24 months. The primary endpoint was non-inferiority design measured at 6 months and looked at the difference in mean change in mid-face volume deficit scores after treatment. Patients were treated in the cheek area and the mean volume of HA product used was 1.8 mls per cheek or 3.7 mls per patient. The primary endpoint of non-inferiority was met with the difference in favor of Evolysse Sculpt. The confidence intervals demonstrated both non-inferiority and statistical superiority. The corresponding p-value also demonstrated statistical superiority at less than 0.001. The secondary endpoint looked at responder rates of each treated cheek, defined as at least a 1-point improvement on the scale. At 6 months, 83% of cheeks treated with Restylane Lyft were responders compared to 91% in the Evolysse Sculpt Group, with the p value that reached the level of statistical significance at 0.015. Following the patients over the course of 2 years, there was a pattern of increasing separation across the efficacy metrics over time between the 2 groups, favoring Evolysse Sculpt over the control. A 1 point change on the validated volume deficit scale represents a clinically meaningful improvement. Looking at patients with at least a 1-point change as assessed by the blinded evaluator at 24 months or the study's end, 8% of Lyft patients were responders compared to 29% of Sculpt patients over a threefold difference at the end of 2 years. The pattern was similar when looking at the global aesthetic improvement scale as assessed by the patients themselves. At 24 months, 13% of Lyft patients were responders compared to 29% of Sculpt patients. Treatment-related adverse events between the 2 groups were similar, 18.7% for Lyft and 19.7% for Sculpt, and there were no treatment-related serious adverse events in either of the groups during the trial. As mentioned, the PMA for Sculpt was submitted in the third quarter of this year, and we anticipate FDA approval in the second half of 2026. Lastly, the Lyft HA injectable trial is fully enrolled, ongoing, and we anticipate its approval and launch in 2027. With that, I'll turn it over to Tatjana to walk you through the financial details.

Tatjana Mitchell

Analyst

Thank you, Rui, and thank you, David, for the warm welcome. Over the past 60 days, I have had the opportunity to get to know the Evolus team and spend time with some of our customers. It's been energizing to see firsthand what makes this company unique. And I wanted to share a few observations before we move into the results. First, Evolus has a highly differentiated business model. As a cash pay-focused company in a multibillion dollar aesthetics market, we have built meaningful relationships with both customers and consumers. Our ability to connect with both groups driving customer growth and retention while deepening consumer loyalty gives us a multitude of levers to drive performance. Based on my experience and scale consumer businesses, Evolus is still in the early stages of realizing our full potential. Second, the fundamentals of our business are strong. We have built productive long-term partnerships with Daewoong and Symatese, and our expense base has been successfully rebased following the second quarter, all while continuing to deliver on our revenue targets. This positions us well to drive operating leverage and profitability going forward. Third, we operate in a high-growth category with long-term secular tailwinds. Our strategy of building a facial aesthetics portfolio under one trusted brand provides a strong foundation for continued expansion and innovation. We are confident in delivering profitability with our current portfolio while actively pursuing strategic business development opportunities to expand our pipeline. And finally, I've been impressed by the strength of the Evolus culture. The grit and focus on impact that I've seen across the organization are what makes me confident in our ability to deliver on our long-term goals. I'm joining Evolus at a pivotal moment, one where the foundation is strong, the opportunity is clear and the team is focused on…

David Moatazedi

Analyst

Thank you, Tatjana. Amid a challenging macro backdrop, our double-digit growth reflects the strength of our business fundamentals and the consistency of our execution. We're a company operating with focus and efficiency, maintaining financial discipline while advancing on one of the most differentiated injectable pipeline in aesthetics. As we move into the fourth quarter, we're deepening customer engagement with the introduction of our Evolysse portfolio bundle, which aligns incentives and drives growth across our injectable portfolio. With Jeuveau in the #3 share position and gaming on the market leader, Evolysse in the early stages of scaling and a theme set to launch in Europe in the first half of 2026, we are well positioned to deliver sustainable growth, profitability and long-term shareholder value. Operator, you may now begin the Q&A.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Annabel Samimy with Stifel.

Annabel Samimy

Analyst

A great recovery on the quarter. I just wanted to ask you some questions about, I guess, the solar dynamic on Evolysse, how much of what you're seeing for Evolysse includes a headwind for stocking versus seasonality versus, say, market sentiment? I guess maybe some macro commentary could be useful here. Like, for example, has sentiment shifted? Is sentiment still poor for fillers? Or are you seeing meaningful headwind from free product for injectors to trial? And could you potentially quantify any of this? And I guess from here, can you sort of give us a better sense of what we can expect of the cadence? And then just -- that was a lot of questions, but one more on this. I guess you mentioned there were about 4,000 trained and 2,000 have adopted Evolysse. Do you have any metrics for the time that it takes to go from like, say, first training to second training into adoption? How should we think about the conversion of those patients -- those physicians who have initially trained?

David Moatazedi

Analyst

Great. All really good questions, Annabel, around Evolysse. And I'll try to maybe dimensionalize for you for just a minute. If we take a couple of steps back, the one thing I'd say is when we launched, we focused initially on our core Evolus customers. And I'm really proud that in our first 6 months, when we look at our Jeuveau revenue, half of our revenue for Jeuveau has purchased Evolysse. So I think our focus on that, Evolysse customer set has been very productive for us. To your point, the recipe that we've uncovered, that has been effective, is to expose them to the product through our sales force, bring them in for training. One live hands-on training is very useful for them to have enough confidence to start trialing the product in their patients. But it really is consistently that second training that changes from trialing the product or dabbling with it to turning into an adopter. And that is really the key insight that we gained over the last couple of quarters with this product. We see a significant inflection point in those clinics when they get through that second training. As you can imagine, the first quarter that we launched, we had very few that actually had the opportunity to get trained 2 times. And so we started to see that more in the third quarter. And you could expect a number of those trainings. Second trainings are booked in the fourth quarter. That's a very significant part of the uptick within our core group. The second is in the fourth quarter, now that we've learned this product, and keep in mind, the U.S. is the first market that's launched Evolysse. So we're relying on our learnings here in the U.S. to continue to adapt our launch. We've now opened the door for Evolysse to go wider beyond our current Evolus customer base. And so you'll see the results from us being able to replicate what we've done over the first 6 months with our core customer group to a broader audience of customers. That's the second. And then lastly, as you pointed out, on the full year, the HA market, as we've read reports from our peers in the space, the market is down double digits. It continues to be relatively challenged, partly due to the macro environment. At the same time, Q3 is the seasonally low period for injectables as well. So you sort of have a compounding effect, if you will, and that's unique to the third quarter. Whereas in contrast, the fourth quarter, we expect will be the strongest quarter of the year, and will be now 3 quarters into our launch. So as we think about our guide for the full year, it reflects those market dynamics of those -- the fourth quarter being sort of the culmination now of 6 months of experience, our key learnings on the product and the benefit of the seasonality working favorably for us.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Marc Goodman with Leerink Partners.

Alyssa Larios

Analyst · Leerink Partners.

This is Alyssa Larios on for Marc Goodman. Just a few questions from us. Could you comment on the usage trends between Evolysse Smooth and Form and how those 2 different product lines are being used across the consumer base? And then can you give us an update on the advertising campaign and remind us exactly what channels you're using, whether it's DTC or going directly to the clinics themselves? And then finally, you mentioned that you intentionally avoided bundling the filler and toxin in the initial phase. Just curious what the rationale was for doing that. If you can walk us through your thought process? That's it.

David Moatazedi

Analyst · Leerink Partners.

Great. Why don't I start with bundling the advertising, and then I'll comment on the usage of Smooth and Form. I'd like to Rui to add his color. Both Rui and I spent a lot of time with customers, trying to understand how they do position it, and there are some interesting insights there. So just on the bundling piece, it became very clear to us as we're preparing for the launch of Evolysse that customers weren't looking for us to bring in new product to market and sort of force it on them because there are customers that use our primary product, Jeuveau. And instead, following a number of advisory board meetings and looking at prior product launches, we chose to take a different route, which has let the product stand on its own and allow these customers a period of multiple quarters to learn through the product before we start to think about bringing our portfolio together. So it was very deliberate in the first quarter that we launched. The product was entirely independent. In the second quarter, we introduced consumer loyalty. We didn't want to introduce that too early. We wanted accounts to get comfort with the usage of the product before we expose consumers to the loyalty benefit. And now in our third quarter following launch, it's not the right time where customers are asking us about what the future of our portfolio is. As you can imagine, they are currently partnered with the larger companies, and they commit to these larger portfolio of purchases as part of their ongoing commitment to gain better pricing. Today, by keeping them independent, there's no advantage to bringing the full portfolio under Evolus. And so we provided this growth portfolio bundle offering in the fourth quarter as our first…

Rui Avelar

Analyst · Leerink Partners.

Sure. I'm going to paraphrase a little bit. The indication is actually broader. The indication is medium to deep wrinkles and folds. And the nasolabial fold is one example of that. You can also go into the marionette lines. And if you look under that lower lip, sometimes there's a deep fold in there, it's called the submental fold. And there's a lot of versatility with these products. And when a clinician looks at a wrinkle or a fold, for example, nasolabial fold is one example, they can look at it strategically and think I'm taking all the attributes of this patient. Are they thin? Are they heavy? Skin quality, all these different things. And if their strategy is to try to use something more superficially, then they'll reach for Smooth. It's got a rheological profile that's very soft and you can bring it up very superficial. If the strategy is different and you want to create a little bit more lift and you need some more lifting power, your strategy is going to be deeper. So you go into Form. And sometimes you combine the 2, you layer them. You want something with more lift underneath and you want to smooth that out. So that's one group. And then in Europe, Smooth is actually approved for perioral fine lines and off-label here in the United States. But we're living in a global environment and people understand that, that product can be used so superficially that it will be used in parallel lines. And the other thing that's come in that's been very interesting is a recurrent comment that these gels are incredibly efficient. And what they typically say is I reach for a gel and I may go for something that needs more lift such as a Form. And I get done, and I still have product left over. And this product is so forgiving that I can continue through different parts of the area or even go superficial in the area that typically couldn't with the gel that has these properties. So that's been the feedback so far. For us, that was kind of reassuring because it was very consistent with the feedback we got before we brought the product on, and that's always nice to see that confirmation.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Navann Ty with BNP Paribas.

Navann Ty Dietschi

Analyst · BNP Paribas.

First, can you discuss in more detail the Q3 action underlying the sequential growth for Jeuveau despite the seasonality, including that Evolus Day event and practices support and potential promotional activities and whether you expect similar actions in Q4 such as the 11th day? And then second, we know that AbbVie commented on the Q3 call that their middle income customers for BOTOX are on the sidelines. So can you discuss the early signs of consumer stabilization that you are seeing?

David Moatazedi

Analyst · BNP Paribas.

Sure. Thanks for the question, Navann. I think what we saw in the second quarter, as we commented before, was a unique point at the end of the quarter where we saw a pullback in customer purchasing that was really unique to the second quarter that we hadn't observed before. We did not see that dynamic in the third. We maintained a consistent promotional effort and we always do, both on the consumer side, through our loyalty platform where we did engage consumers that we saw stretching their intervals between treatment with a way to bring them back into their normal routine. We also were able to do some things in the market around the clinics with partnerships. We did have a partnership with consumer magazine, Allure, where there was a gift with purchase that consumers were able to partner with us on that did drive a lot of interest in our product. And then, of course, now as we enter the fourth quarter, as you pointed out, this is our annual 11th day, which kicked off towards the end of October. And it's we're in the middle of it now, and it's a very important phase for us as our customers look at that annually.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Uy Ear with Mizuho Securities.

Uy Ear

Analyst · Mizuho Securities.

Congrats on the positive quarter here. So maybe a question on, well, could you maybe just tell us the split between U.S. and ex U.S. sales for Jeuveau? And maybe you can also kind of help us understand, I think you indicated that you strengthened your 14% market share. Maybe just help us understand what you mean by that as well as what are you kind of seeing, I guess, in terms of your customer base who are -- who could be different from what AbbVie -- the customer base that AbbVie or Galderma have?

David Moatazedi

Analyst · Mizuho Securities.

Yes. Let's start with what we're seeing in terms of just overall in the market. Obviously, the only 2 companies that report down the revenue and break out that level of detail is both us and AbbVie. So through that, what we see is a market that in the third quarter, likely decline by some small degree and we continue to outpace when you look at our year-to-date Jeuveau in the declining market, we've grown in terms of units. What's probably most promising is you see our consumer rewards data where the overall redemption, that's consumers going in, getting treated and earning their $40 off, it's up over 30% year-on-year. So we continue to see very healthy demand for the product in these clinics and we're continuing to, we believe, improve our presence there. Now that all at the same time, we're establishing Evolysse in these clinics. So overall, we feel very good about how Jeuveau has performed out of the third quarter. And we hope to see that momentum continue. The second part was, yes, that was the 14%. Yes. As far as the -- we don't do segment reporting on the toxin business, Uy. So unfortunately, we won't be able to give you that color. But we did in the script make the comment that both the U.S. and the international business are growing positive in terms of units year-to-date. So I think it gives you some color around there is growth happening on both sides on top of that, Uy.

Uy Ear

Analyst · Mizuho Securities.

Okay. Can I sneak in another question. You're now going to bundle the product. Maybe just help us understand the potential synergies that you could get from this? Do you expect in some of the accounts, I think you're heavily penetrated. In terms of Jeuveau, do you expect greater -- significantly greater penetration there? Or do you think the synergies will work -- sort of will be greater synergies in terms of Evolysse? Just help us understand the dynamic and the potential and the magnitude.

David Moatazedi

Analyst · Mizuho Securities.

Yes. I think my view is the portfolio bundle is a long play for us. This is a very early innings. We've been operating as a single product company and without a bundle for 7 years, and you've seen us establish. Jeuveau is the fastest-growing brand for the majority of those years since we entered the market. And we're the first company to break through the double-digit mark outside of the initial 2 players to enter the space. We do believe this is a meaningful opportunity for Jeuveau. There are countless conversations that we've had with clinics where their Jeuveau usage is limited by the downside risk they have by moving over more of their share to us on their total purchasing with some of the competitive products. The idea of a bundle unlocks and alleviate some of that pressure. And I think the reason I say it's a longer-term endeavor is because Sculpt further unlocks it because it further expands our portfolio within the HA space, which is an important part of continuing to move more of their business over. So I view the fourth quarter as the first of many quarters to come where we'll start talking a little bit more about the advantage of the portfolio.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Douglas Tsao with H.C. Wainwright.

Douglas Tsao

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Congrats on the progress. David, I guess, I'm just curious, have you seen that effect yet in the marketplace, meaning sort of accounts that were perhaps not purchasing Jeuveau because they were very defensive around sort of the bundle with Allergan or AbbVie and now are beginning to be able to purchase Jeuveau as well as Evolysse? Or is that more of the sort of a conversation that you're starting to have?

David Moatazedi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes. We have had a combination of both inbound interest from accounts that weren't working with us on Jeuveau and they're interested in Evolysse and that opens the door for us to begin partnering with them. Now keep in mind, Evolysse is still early. So I think some of those could be dabblers that will continue to expand their presence. And as a result of that, they've started to dabble with Jeuveau. So that's one group of customers. Another group are customers that have been somewhat moderate users of Jeuveau. And now with Evolysse, they're looking at us differently. And consistently in the conversation is the idea of having a mid-face product, that bringing in a differentiated mid-face product, which is a big gap in a lot of portfolios in our industry is going to be a significant point in time to do that. So we've used this, if you will, in 3 stages, right? The first 6 months was establishing Evolysse. The next 6 months is starting to establish our portfolio value proposition and then opening the doors to follow as Sculpt gets to approval, and then we can really use that entire bundle to start to take advantage of it. So we've been deliberate about how we've tried to roll these out, especially to support our customers who've helped us get here.

Douglas Tsao

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

And as a follow-up, David, I'm just curious, on the co-branded marketing side, is Jeuveau remaining the focal point? Or have you had accounts inquire or begin to actually do co-branded marketing where Evolysse is the focus?

David Moatazedi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes. So the third quarter, we started to put out co-branded media on Evolysse. Some of those co-branded media ads had mentioned the weight loss. As you know, we're the only hyaluronic acid that has mention of weight loss in our label. There's a lot of interest. Some of those in our billboards now sitting around the U.S., some of them are digital media. And that was one that many [Technical Difficulty].

Douglas Tsao

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Hello?

David Moatazedi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes. We're back, Doug.

Douglas Tsao

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

I think, David, we lost you midstream about the co-branded marketing.

David Moatazedi

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright.

Yes. My only comment there was, we are seeing co-branded marketing on Evolysse in the form of billboards as well as digital with a number of them having the mention of weight loss, which is unique to our product. And as we mentioned on the prior call, the more you purchase from Evolysse, the more co-branded media dollars you earn. And then our team works with those clinics to choose which products they want to highlight between the 2, Jeuveau and Evolysse. And we started to introduce it in the third quarter in the market, and it's going to continue to rise as we enter the fourth quarter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Serge Belanger with Needham & Company.

Serge Belanger

Analyst · Needham & Company.

David, first question is on ordering patterns. Like you mentioned earlier, volumes and size of orders kind of dropped off at the end of the second quarter. Just curious what impact that had on inventory levels and the overall ordering pattern throughout 3Q? And maybe what you've seen in the early part of 4Q right now? Secondly, I think Tatjana mentioned that the customer event was moved from 3Q to 4Q. I imagine that's the 11-day promotion. What impact did that have on OpEx? And could that be another tailwind for 4Q Jeuveau sales?

Operator

Operator

Apologies. The speakers are experiencing more technical difficulties.

Tatjana Mitchell

Analyst

Serge, can you let me know where we cut off? Can you let me know where my response cut off?

Serge Belanger

Analyst

I don't think we heard your response at all.

Tatjana Mitchell

Analyst

Okay. Apologies. We are dealing with some technical difficulties, but we are back on. So the question was around the customer event that moved from Q3 to Q4. That was the summit that we have for our largest customers. It was not the 11th-day promotion. So the 11th-day promotion, as David said, kicked off at the end of October and is currently underway. And so there's no change in promotional cadence or any impact on revenue.

David Moatazedi

Analyst

Okay. And to your -- second part of your question around purchasing pattern, Serge. A couple of things that we pointed out coming out of the Q2 earnings call. One is that accounts were drawing down their inventory. We expected that to continue through the third quarter. And so what we're seeing were accounts that are carrying less inventory and purchasing more on an on-demand basis versus placing sort of the larger volume orders that they had been placing before. But collectively, we saw them coming through strong just with over the course of more orders rather than the bigger volume ones. Now the fourth quarter is at the busiest season. So we do expect that the purchase volumes are generally higher. They will be higher than they have been over the past 2 quarters. But we do expect that inventory levels will continue to be managed carefully in the space as the overall volumes year-on-year. We expect the fourth quarter hopefully to be relatively flat coming off of a depressed base. So we expect it to be relatively stable.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sam Eiber with BTIG.

Sam Eiber

Analyst · BTIG.

Maybe I can move to the tariff mitigation strategies that you called out in the prepared remarks. So I'd love to hear any more details. I guess you could provide on potential offsets if we do get tariffs. I know it's a fluid situation, but would love your thoughts there. And maybe as a follow-up, if we do get potentially material rates, what's your ability to, I guess, build in the U.S., manufacture in the U.S.? How long something like that could take to build out? Any thoughts there would be great.

David Moatazedi

Analyst · BTIG.

Yes, Sam, it's a great question on tariffs. Like you, we've also been watching this very closely. And I want to be careful not to get into too much detail here because it's harder to lay out plans when it's not entirely clear yet. The Korean trade agreement is nearing a close. So we're looking forward to seeing that agreement finalized, but the pharmaceutical tariffs and whether those continue to hold are still not yet clear. I can tell you that we have an incredible partnership with our partner, Daewoong in Korea. They're very well aware of the impact of tariffs, the conversations we've had with them. And they've also been very supportive. As you see, on one hand, there's been a higher impact on our cash burn as a result of pulling forward inventory into the U.S. That allows us and affords us the luxury of time to be able to get more clarity on some of these unknown items. But as you can imagine, we're working through it in scenario planning. So rather than going through each of those scenarios, I can tell you that we have a partner that's committed. We have the luxury of time to work through this. And it's still unclear within that range of options, I would just say that we are open to exploring...

Operator

Operator

Apologies. Looks like we lost him again. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to pass the call back over to Nareg Sagherian for details on an upcoming IR event. Nareg?

Nareg Sagherian

Analyst

We hope to see many of you there. Thank you for joining us today.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines.