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EPAM Systems, Inc. (EPAM)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Sun, Nov 5, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the EPAM Q3 2017 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. David Straube, Investor Relations for EPAM. Thank you, Mr. Straube. You may begin.

David Straube

Analyst

Thank you, operator and good morning everyone. By now, you should have received your copy of the earnings release for the Company's third quarter fiscal 2017 results. If you have not, a copy is available at epam.com in the Investors section. With me on today's call are Arkadiy Dobkin, CEO and President; and Jason Peterson, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to risk and uncertainties as described in the Company's earnings release and SEC filings. Additionally, all references to reported results that are non-GAAP numbers have been reconciled to GAAP and are available in our third quarter earnings materials located in the Investors section of our website. With that said, I will now turn the call over to Ark.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, David, and good morning everyone. Thanks for joining us. Our third quarter revenue results reflect continued high demand for our services across both the industries we serve and the geographies in which we operate. We also delivered a strong profitability in the quarter and generated significant free cash flow. Revenue for Q3 came in at $378 million, representing year-over-year organic growth of 26.6% reported or 24.6% in constant currency. Across all verticals, the trends of transformation, digitalization, and competitive disruption in our clients and markets are main drivers for our growth. Financial Services, our largest vertical, finished the quarter with 15% growth, which was broad based across our major geographies and driven by clients responding to regulatory changes, digitalization and the drive to optimize payments. Excluding the impact of UBS, Financial Services grew 27% in Q3. Travel & Consumer grew 20% in the quarter with growth coming from the continued focus on ecommerce, customer experience and personalization efforts among clients in North America and Europe. Software and Hi-Tech grew 22% for the quarter, driven by diversified portfolio of mature software companies emerging start-ups technology companies growing through digital platform transformations. Media & Entertainment was 42% growth in the quarter. The continued evolution of direct-to-consumer trends, which include enrichment review and end and user experience across multiple platforms help drive growth in this vertical. Life Science and Healthcare grew 24% over the same quarter last year. Trends driving the growth this quarter were Life Science clients focus on the new ways to engage with doctors and patients, in addition to having GIT initiatives. And lastly, our emerging verticals delivered yet another strong quarter with growth of 78%, driven primarily by telecommunications and energy clients. The diversification across our clients continues to progress, with growth outside of the top 20…

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, Ark, and good morning, everyone. As Ark mentioned, we delivered strong top-line performance, drove higher profitability and generated significant free cash flow in the third quarter. Let me start with some financial highlights, talk about profitability, cash flow and end on guidance. Getting with revenue, on a reported basis, we closed the third quarter with $377.5 million, 26.6% growth over the same quarter last year and 8.2% growth sequentially. Year-over-year, constant currency growth was 24.6%, reflecting a currency benefit of 2%. Actual revenues, compared to our Q2 guidance, benefited from a combination of stronger revenue production of $8.2 million and a favorable currency impact of $2.3 million. From a geographic perspective, North America, our largest region, representing 57.8% of our Q3 revenues, grew 28.4% year-over-year and 27.6% in constant currency. Europe, representing 35.9% of our Q3 revenue, grew 22.8% year-over-year and 19.8% in constant currency. Absent the effect of UBS, growth in Europe was 26.4% in constant currency. CIS grew 44.6% year-over-year, with 34.7% in constant currency and now represents 4.2% of our revenue. And lastly APAC grew 12.6% year-over-year and 12.2% in constant currency and now represents 2.1% of our revenue. Moving down the income statement, our GAAP gross margin for the quarter was 36.6%, compared to 36% in Q3 of last year. Non-GAAP gross margin for the quarter was 37.9%, compared to 37.6% for the same quarter last year. The 30 basis point year-over-year increase in non-GAAP gross margin resulted from the higher utilization offset by the negative impact of foreign exchange. GAAP SG&A was 21.5% of revenue, compared to 22.6% in Q3 of last year and non-GAAP SG&A, which excludes stock-based compensation expense and certain other items came in at 19.8%, compared to 19.5% in the same period last year. Our level of SG&A reflects…

David Straube

Analyst

Thanks, Jason. To allow as many participants as possible on today’s call, I would request that each of you ask one question and a follow-up. Operator, would you please provide instructions for those on the call?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Darrin Peller with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

Hey guys. Nice chat on the quarter. Let me just start off with the talent – ability to acquire talent for you guys. I mean, it's obviously becoming a much more competitive space overall around digital. And you've done well there. I just want to hear a little bit more about how – what type of supply there is for talent? If it’s changed in terms of the dynamics from a competitive standpoint? And then, maybe just follow-up to that on pricing, obviously, the prices you are paying for this talent probably is higher, if you could talk to a little bit about the pricing environment, if you could pass that through? Anything is changing on that front? Just a quick update there. Thanks.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

You probably remember that each time we answering this question our reply is pretty consistent. It's never was easy and it's not easy too right now and probably would be even more challenging in the future. So, and with each kind of stage in our development and growth, we are finding it very hard to train people, hard to attract people and we put in a lot of efforts to make sure that there is enough opportunities inside of EPAM for people to realize and stay here. So we just mentioned, for example, Software Engineering Conference and there a couple of components on talent. And so on the engineering side and on creative side, and how to make sure that this type of people can work together, which is create relatively unique environment for them to stay. Basically, on the engineering side, we are doing this for very, very long time. So, and we put in more efficient program how to train people, at the same time how to explain why EPAM is different and why opportunities is different here. But again, it is very challenging and it's just generally industry a huge challenge. And on the more creative digital part of – which is part of people we have to retain and attract, it's also a little bit changing from geographical point of view. It's more in client-facing locations. While it's still pretty significant and very competitive in our development centers as well. So, there is no simple answer, but we invest in heavily in recruitment, in training, in opportunity building across our projects, so.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

I mean, to be clear, it seems fine this quarter, but I just want to be sure, I mean, there is nothing that's changing around the ability for you to maintain both the split of the cost of the labor to pricing. In other words, the margin implications on it, nothing has changed there. Is that fair? I just want to make sure going forward we model that correctly.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

I think you are touching on very right points and this is definitely challenged, but again, the challenge for everybody when – and we are getting this for a long time. As you can see, during the last six quarters, we have some volatility in recruitment because of utilization and different type of impacts. But for example, in Q3, we had the largest number of new employees join the company through different sources. So, I think we don't have simple answer, but we know how to kind of address the challenge.

Darrin Peller

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

Okay. All right. I’ll leave it there guys. Thanks very much.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Sure. I was wondering if you could give us kind of your latest thoughts on M&A? How active is your pipeline? Whether you are evaluating deals? What type of deals might be most interesting to you?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Again, I think you expect our usual answer here too. So we have a pipeline, we have deals in discussions right now. I don't think we can comment on specifics. But in general, we are always looking how to improve our client-facing capabilities and how to extend specific capabilities from industry expertise to digital to engineering takes long time. So, again, I don't think we would comment on specifics until it's happened.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Okay. I have – can you give us some idea about, in terms of your kind of revenue growth algorithm, how much of your organic growth is from cross-selling or up-selling existing clients versus signing new logos? Which is the more important driver? Is it evenly split there?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Well, I guess when we look at the growth, I think we are quite pleased with the fact that we are generating growth from I guess, both pieces of that equation. So we are seeing growth in our Top-20 customers once we've got through the long-established relationships with growing at 15% a year in Q3. And actually if you net out UBS, it would be over 20%. And then, in our other than Top-20, I believe the growth rate is actually 37%. So what you're seeing is continued growth in customers that we have longstanding relationships with and then you are seeing quite robust growth from customers that we are adding in growth with those newer customers.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Okay. Just to be clear, it's pretty even split between those two drivers.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

I think that's fair.

Ramsey El-Assal

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Okay. All right. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Anil Doradla with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Anil Doradla

Analyst · Anil Doradla with William Blair. Please proceed with your question

Good morning guys. And congratulations from my end too. So, Arkadiy you rightly pointed out never seen so many engineers being hired in this one particular quarter. Was it from any particular geography? Was it focused for any particular client? Some – any color on that.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Anil Doradla with William Blair. Please proceed with your question

No, it was split o – like equally spread across geographies and there is no any specific client which was driving us. So this is, again, a reflection of diversification of our client base, as well that you talked about.

Anil Doradla

Analyst · Anil Doradla with William Blair. Please proceed with your question

Great. And as a follow-up, Arkadiy, as we look into 2018, I know you guys are not giving in any formal guidance right now. But any kind of qualitative color on kind of the demand environment, what you are seeing?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Anil Doradla with William Blair. Please proceed with your question

So, Anil, we would like to be consistent. So, all we can say is that we believe that we can continue growing over 20% organically. So, and – that's how we are trying to design the future from clients to delivery capabilities.

Anil Doradla

Analyst · Anil Doradla with William Blair. Please proceed with your question

Very good. Congrats on the solid execution guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Sure, thanks. Good quarter. Ark, questions on some of the solution development that you guys are doing with regards to working with clients on A.I. projects, IoT projects and so on so forth. I would imagine the demand for those kinds of projects is pretty high. And this is a topic again, we've discussed before to some extent, but anytime I look at the growth of A.I, it seems to me a company like your service which has very strong software development capabilities might actually do well with having your own software-focused approach in a little part of your business. Can you provide us with the logic of how you are thinking on that? I know the bulk of your business is always services-focused, but there are parts that might be better suited for software.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

So, we – I think we said this during the Investor Day as well as that we are really focusing on developing number of accelerators for our solutions. We are still are not going to – not planning to go with product strategy – for the product strategy, but solution accelerators around specifics including what you mentioned, because it's becoming really interesting drivers for new clients and it’s becoming very important part for them to compete. And solution - kind of solution accelerators around engineering productivity and we are also focusing right now on some specific solutions around talent management, talent growth, because that's what we can apply to ourselves. In regards to all this - how we see artificial intelligence and automation, we partner with some of our clients as and with market leaders. But again, considering how to put accelerators on top of this to be faster.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Sure, got it. And…

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

And Ashwin, like in this category and this is typical, most of the products not necessarily mature today because it’s all experimentation which is giving us additional advantage and that's why we need these accelerators, because very often we need to cover for the lack in functionality or stability of this type of product and that's exactly where we think our competitive advantage is.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Understood, understood. As one other thing as we try to break down the elements of EPAM's growth, which now began one more quarter of fairly robust growth here, what I am trying to think of is sort of the same-store sales metric how you are increasingly penetrating existing clients? And how your sales force is positioned to do that on an ongoing basis. Could you provide maybe sort of hunting versus farming type of a breakdown with regards to your sales force?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

So, we are getting new logos and we have the team, which is focusing exclusively on hunting. At the same time, our growth completely impossible result very good farming and this is what, historically, is the main driver of our growth and it’s still probably the most important part. So, we mentioned that we have like, right now 200 clients with $2 million plus revenue, which is great huge opportunity for continue this lend and extend approach. For both business developments in both the segments, I think consultative approach is becoming much more important and we talked about our ambitions to build relatively efficient consulting communication. So, and pairing with our competency centers kind of to grow and do this in very good orchestration. So, I think, that's kind of like very high-level review is possibly on this call.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

And as you know, we are certainly seeing an acceleration in the revenues that we are generating from our new customers. And so, as Ark indicated, we continue to see quite a bit of revenue growth from farming, but the hunting is increasingly generating growth as well.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Got it. Can I squeeze in one more question, just a clarification on the tax rate...

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Ashwin, and then even here, I would call it on top of what Jason mentioned, our counting still a lot referral which we were out of this because that's reputational type of extension to new logos and that's what we would like to make sure that we kind of keeping out, because I think our delivery reputation should be main driver for new sales referral.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Yes, I don’t know how…

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

You can squeeze in your question.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Yes, yes. So the tax rate question that I had was if the clarification on the lower tax rate entirely due to – it’s not mix or anything else, it's entirely due to one factor, which is stock-based compensation that will change this and why should that not be your go-forward assumption not just for one quarter, but going forward?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Yes, and so If you look at the GAAP tax rate, that clearly is in there. If you look at the non-GAAP tax rate, obviously, that's not part of that. And so, I would say that in terms of the – somewhat of the decline we've seen in the tax rate that that is a little bit due to the greater revenue profits that we are producing in the offshore centers as we’ve sort of driven the headcount increase that Arkadiy talked about and the higher utilization. And so, I think in the second half of this year, you've seen a somewhat greater percentage of our revenue profits come from those locations where the tax rates are generally lower. I do think next year, what you'll see is, maybe a little bit of our return back as we pursue our strategy of greater sort of client-basing resources and delivery teams.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Amit Singh

Analyst · Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question

Hi, this is Amit Singh for Jason. Just a quick question on your constant currency revenue growth, as we look at, it seems like it's growing at around two times, your sort of client-serving headcount in third quarter and it was like similar in second quarter. Just trying to understand the drivers here and is that sustainable?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question

Yes, so I'd say it had a couple of factors when I think about the growth. So you've got one is obviously the growth in the headcount and so we had a very robust addition of headcount in Q3, which included both talent acquisition, so talent from outside the market. And then also our resource development capability, which is to take younger recent university graduates and sort of train and develop them and to bring them into our development organizations, as well. So you've got the two pieces of - let's call that headcount or resource addition. The other piece is that you have is the utilization improvement and the combination of those two have had helped drive - have helped drive revenue growth. But, as I think we’ve discussed we have a very strong demand across all of our geographies across our pretty much all of our industry verticals and then both from new and existing customers and we feel that we've very much got a series of engines in place to continue to add the headcount that we need to grow revenue in 2018.

Amit Singh

Analyst · Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question

All right, perfect. And just quickly, I mean, if I look at your full year guidance, adjusted operating margin guidance, it seems like you would probably need still some ramp up in your and adjusted operating margin in fourth quarter to get to around the middle of that guidance range. So just your confidence level in that. I know historically, I mean, last quarter the fourth quarter adjusted margin was slightly below third quarter, but in the prior year, they've been higher. So just trying to understand how the dynamics play out this year?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question

I mean, there were some challenges last year that were specific to a single customer, maybe pretty much a single customer. This year, I think we would see a more traditional pattern and historically, what we’ve seen is an improvement in utilization as we go from Q3 to Q4. And so again, that's a historic pattern that you see as you come out of the summer quarter, which has higher vacations and as a result, lower utilization. And so higher utilization, historically, would produce both higher revenue and higher profitability.

Amit Singh

Analyst · Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question

Got it. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question come from the line of Joseph Foresi with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question.

Joseph Foresi

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question

Hi, can you talk about growth in Europe and its drivers and maybe give us an update on UBS?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question

I think the update on UBS is pretty straightforward. It's stabilized. It's a little bit growing, but in general, it's not impacting so much that overall. It should be closer to over 10% for several quarters and thereof. So in general, demand coming from traditional sectors, it's still coming and you see it we provided numbers outside of UBS impact from Financial Services and from retail from media. So, practically pretty equally distributed across segments.

Joseph Foresi

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question

Got it. And then the second question, can you talk about a little bit about the pipeline. Are you working on any large deals? And the reason why I ask is usually headcount additions like this imply that there is some demand out there that needs to be addressed or is it more balanced? Thanks.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question

It is pretty balanced and don't try to retool too deeply in this situation. Just remember that we have at some point very low utilization last year just twelve months ago and then we have to utilize people who slow down and hiring can for several quarters where utilizing the people very well at the branch and now we are just getting back to normal talent acquisition processes and clearly, the biggest size on it where twelve months ago and this is just natural reflections.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question

And demand is very broad based across large number of customers and industry segments.

Joseph Foresi

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed with your question

Got it. Helpful, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Hey guys, thanks. Good morning. Was there any sort of pricing tailwind during the quarter? And then, what are you embedding in terms of your guidance for pricing? And then, going back to Darrin's question earlier in terms of recruiting, is there any change in terms of wage inflation assumptions by region or by some of the major regions in your numbers? Thanks.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

So when you say pricing tailwinds, are you referring to foreign exchange or it’s something else?

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

I am talking some of the bill rate increases that we are embedding in our models.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Yes, and so I think what we continue to see is sort of stable pricing and as I think we've talked about in the past, we do have – to have customers where we are getting annual price increases. But again, the pricing environment is stable. Back to the question around the wage inflation as Ark said, it's a competitive market, but there is a number of levers to maintain gross margin that includes utilization, that includes pyramid, and so yes, I think we are generally comfortable.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

So wage inflation is still kind of roughly somewhere in the mid-single-digits. Is that still the right number to use on a blended basis?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Again, mid-single-digits, I think it's – it would vary by geography.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

I think we're seeing a slight increase in wage inflation to be fair, but at the same time, what I am trying to communicate early is we do have the ability to sort of mitigate that through adjustments and pyramid to made adjustments and where and how we deliver.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

And then bill rate increases is still also kind of somewhere in the low-single-digits?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Yes, it's sort of consistent with what we talked about in the past. If you are looking to sort of updated model, yes, we’d keep the assumptions the same as what we've communicated in prior quarters.

Moshe Katri

Analyst · Moshe Katri with Wedbush Securities. Please proceed with your question

Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Arvind Ramnani with Pacific Crest Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Arvind Ramnani

Analyst · Arvind Ramnani with Pacific Crest Securities. Please proceed with your question

Yes, hey, congrats on a good quarter. I just wanted to get your view on the overall environment and if you could contrast it to last year. Last year we had a bunch of uncertainties around directions and UBS. And given that the environment is much better, how should we start thinking about kind of – as we enter into next year? Not looking for guidance, just trying to get a sense of what your view of the environment is?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Arvind Ramnani with Pacific Crest Securities. Please proceed with your question

You see, with all respect to elections, I think the last year, the main impact was still from UBS for us and results size and with our kind of market penetration. I think, if you take UBS out, and now we see that it was pretty specific situation to this specific client. I think it's pretty consistent. The demand for this – again overused, but there is reason why term like digital transformation is very strong and it's driving a lot of new client engagements today. And with relation to this, a lot of vacant rebuild and modernization activities. So I don't see big difference with exceptions that Q3 last year was really impactful but one specific client.

Arvind Ramnani

Analyst · Arvind Ramnani with Pacific Crest Securities. Please proceed with your question

Great. Thank you very much and good luck for the remainder of the year.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Arvind Ramnani with Pacific Crest Securities. Please proceed with your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Steven Milunovich

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Thank you. I just wonder how you are thinking about OpEx going forward. You've been hiring consultants. So in terms of SG&A investments, do you see any lumpiness or surprises there? And if we look out a year, would you think we’d be more at the high or low-end of this 16% to 18% range?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Yes, I don't think we're ready to guide yet on where we are going to be in the 16% to 18% range over the coming year. I think we need a little bit more time here to think about that here in Q4. From your question on SG&A is that we are making investments in our consulting capability to advance our ability to sort of deliver and to work and deliver solutions to our customers. But it's not going to show up as a significant SG&A spend. And then, the other thing is that the portion of those resources will be billable. And so, if you go to the P&L, say they'll show up in core and they'll generate revenues that will offset their costs. And so I don't think you should expect a material increase in SG&A coming from some of those shifts.

Steven Milunovich

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And on the competitive front, the Indians are always trying to move up toward your capabilities. Do you see any success there? And is your price premium relative to the Indians changed at all?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

It's very difficult to comment on the price comparisons, because that's usually not a open information. So everybody trying to build these digital capabilities and you see the number of acquisitions with global service providers and companies like Accenture doing on more and more regular basis. So, at the same time, I think markets still growing faster than capabilities and there is a big demand and I don't think it's very visible that something changing on the market. I mean, there are good opportunities. The main challenge is still to have right capabilities and right balance of these capabilities for this type of deals.

Steven Milunovich

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Great.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Just so, I just might add that when you look at our growth in certain segments where obviously there is a high digital component, we grew 42% year-over-year. So, I think that speaks to the strength of our capabilities and the work that we are doing for our customers.

Steven Milunovich

Analyst · Steve Milunovich with UBS. Please proceed with your question

Great.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Vladimir Bespalov

Analyst · Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Hello and congratulations on the very good results. I have a follow-up question on UBS. I made some calculations. I mean, it looks like in the last quarter, these accounts started to grow sequentially after like several years of pretty fledged performance. If that's the case and can we speak about the turnaround with this account and in general like with the overall situation in the Financial Services sector growing pretty good. But do you see any improvement in the industry as a whole? Thank you.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Vladimir, first of all, UBS was the first pick up happened exactly one year ago. So before that, it was pretty strongly growing account for us. So, but all we can comment that it's much more stable. We can predict better like this level of stability because, if you remember, our comments before, we were always saying, like let's take a look at the next quarter. So – and I would kind of end with type of comment right now. So, general stability - you are asking about general stability of financial industry, again, for us it’s stable, for us it's growing, and again UBS was an exception. Like Financial Services with the exception of UBS grew 27% and that was practically through during the last periods as well.

Vladimir Bespalov

Analyst · Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Okay, thank you. And maybe you could provide some comments on Life Sciences & Healthcare as well, because there was a pretty good acceleration of growth year-on-year after previous - like the previous quarters?

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

And you see, for us, it's very difficult to kind of single out one vertical against another, because that’s what we are trying to explain majority of our services are in new developments. We don't have a lot of legacy support and maintenance activities. And practically, all sectors on which we focus in is high growth sectors for us for the type of engagements and Life Science is a good example of this as well.

Vladimir Bespalov

Analyst · Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question come from the line of Georgios Kertsos with Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Georgios Kertsos

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question

Yes, hi guys. A very quick one, high level question for me. I am - thinking of growth, is - have you seen in the last - this last quarter or based on the visibility that you have as of now, do you expect to see any sort of divergence between volume and pricing in any of your sectors or geographies? Anything that you can, sort of comfortably call out there? That’s for me. Thank you.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question

So, yes, so in the near term, I am not sure that we see a divergent between volume and price. I think longer term, we've talked about the fact that we will likely see more of our work come out of our customer-facing geographies and so over the mid-term to longer-term what you could see is, a divergent between volume and price, just because the on-site or customer-facing geographies would have higher rates than the offshore geographies. So, I guess, the only other you are not… okay. Just as a reminder, we are a T&M business, 90% over - slightly over 90% of our revenues come from T&M. And so you don't see significant changes based on things that could be happening with a large fixed engagement. Again, we are substantially sort of a T&M.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is a follow-up from Vladimir Bespalov with VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Georgios Kertsos

Analyst · VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Thank you for taking my question. I would like to talk to you about the cash which you are having on your balance sheet. It keeps growing and growing. You have answered this question quite a number of times in the past, but still, I mean you have much more than you can stand on exhibitions probably, but what is the longer-term strategy for using cash? Thank you.

Jason Peterson

Analyst · VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Yes, we are over $500 million in cash. We had very strong cash production in Q3 as you are aware. 75% of that cash is offshore. And so, what we feel this time is, the cash we have in place very much is there to support our acquisition strategy and our inter-growth strategy. We do have discussions around what we might do longer-term, but I wouldn't comment on that at this time and instead, we just continue to focus on, I guess, the question that was asked by at Oracle while back, which is about our acquisition strategy and we continue to be active.

Georgios Kertsos

Analyst · VTB Capital. Please proceed with your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Abhishek [Indiscernible] with Cowen & Company. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning. Can market share or larger gains that – large existing or relatively new clients explain the nice delta between headcount and revenue growth in recent quarters?

Jason Peterson

Analyst · Ramsey El-Assal with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question

Yes, I mean we are certainly seeing that. Clearly, an ongoing growth in our existing customers as I think we talked about sort of 15% excluding UBS for our Top-20 customers and over 20%, if you exclude UBS. I think probably it's still a combination of things, which probably is more headcount growth and utilization, okay, as well as obviously, expanded revenue across the host of clients including our new customers.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Arkadiy Dobkin for closing remarks.

Arkadiy Dobkin

Analyst · Barclays. Please proceed with your question

Thank you. We are clearly pleased with our results in Q3 and kind of excited about how went through year shaping our path right now, so. And looking forward to update you in three months what really would happen. See you here in three months. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.