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Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 31, 2013

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Enterprise Products Partners L.P. Q3 2013 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Molly. And I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Enterprise Products Partners’ Third Quarter 2013 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Randy Burkhalter, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin your conference.

Randy Burkhalter

President

Thank you, Molly. Good morning everyone and welcome to the Enterprise Products Partners conference call to discuss results for the third quarter. Our speakers today will be Mike Creel, CEO of Enterprise’s General Partner; followed by Jim Teague, Chief Operating Officer; and Randy Fowler, Executive Vice President and CFO. Other members of our senior management team were also in attendance for the call today. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 based on the beliefs of the company, as well as assumptions made by, and information currently available to Enterprise’s management team. Although management believes that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, they can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. Please refer to our latest filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a list of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements made during this call. With that I’ll turn the call over to Mike.

Mike Creel

CEO

Thanks, Randy. This quarter we had record NGL and crude oil transportation volumes, record NGL fractionation volumes and record LPG export volumes that led to solid results. These increases were primarily driven by growth in NGL and crude oil production in the Eagle Ford shale, higher crude oil volumes on Seaway Pipeline and increased propane loadings at our export facility. As a result, gross operating margin was $1.2 billion for the third quarter of 2013 compared to $1.1 billion for the same quarter of last year. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.1 billion for the third quarter 2013 and 2012. Distributable cash flow increased to $908 million in the quarter from $743 million in the third quarter of 2012. Included in distributable cash flow were proceeds from asset sales and insurance recoveries of $57 million this quarter and $11 million in the third quarter 2012. Distributable cash flow for the third quarter of last year also included a $24 million benefit from the settlement of litigation and a reduction of $70 million from a loss on the settlement of interest rate hedges associated with our issuance of senior notes in August of 2012. Excluding these items, distributable cash flow for the third quarter of 2013 increased 10% to $851 million and provided 1.4 times coverage of the cash distribution declared with respect to the quarter. We recently declared a $0.69 per unit cash distribution with respect to the third quarter, which is 6.2% higher than the distribution paid with respect to the third quarter of last year. This distribution will be paid on Thursday of next week to unitholders of record as of the close of business today. And it represents the 37th consecutive quarterly increase in our cash distribution per unit. We retained $286 million of distribution cash flow for the…

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Mike. As Mike mentioned, we continue to deliver. Our results continue to show the strengths of having a balanced portfolio that includes natural gas, NGLs, crude oil, refined products, petrochemicals and includes the benefits of our growing exposure to global markets. Typically we always face some type of price pressure in some part of our business, or I should say margin pressure. And that’s true today in our petrochemical segment to some extent and definitely in our processing segment. But because of our balance across multiple commodities we continue to prosper in an industry that’s anything but business as usual. The explosive growth of the U.S. shale hydrocarbons is now changing not only the U.S. but the global landscape and we’re determined to be a substantial player in this evolution, not only in LPG but across all of the hydrocarbon commodities. As Mike mentioned, the build out we started in the Eagle Ford three years ago is virtually complete. We’ve completed nearly $4 billion of natural gas, natural gas liquids and crude oil projects in what we now all recognize as one of the hottest plays in the country. Kind of interesting how we did this, we started with a solid base of natural gas and NGL assets that supported conventional production in South Texas for literally decades. We moved to add key bridge projects, and those are projects that fill the available plant capacity we had and then we built new assets supporting all of the commodities this play has to offer. The build out included crude pipelines, natural gas pipelines, NGL pipelines, related pipeline compression and pumping, 200,000 barrels a day of fractionation at Mont Belvieu and 1.1 bcf a day of processing capacity. That processing capacity is your Yoakum plant. And over 140,000 barrels a…

Randy Fowler

Management

Thank you, Jim. I would like to take a few minutes to discuss some additional income oriented items and liquidity as well for the quarter. We reported net income attributable to Limited Partners of $592 million and earnings per unit of $0.64 per unit on a fully diluted basis for the third quarter 2013. Net income and EPU for the third quarter 2013 were affected by the following items: $15 million or $0.02 per unit on a fully diluted basis for non-cash asset impairment charges, $7 million or $0.01 per unit on a fully diluted basis for an adjustment to the Texas margin tax, expense accrual related to legislation passed in the second quarter 2013. And finally, net income and EPU was also included $10 million or $0.01 per unit for gains from asset sales. Interest expense increased to $208 million this quarter from $200 million in the third quarter of 2012, primarily due to an increase in our average debt principal balance. Our weighted average cost of debt decreased to 5.3% for the third quarter 2013 compared to 5.7% for the third quarter 2012. At September 30, our weighted average cost of debt was 5.2%. The provision for income taxes increased $17 million this quarter compared to the third quarter last year, primarily due to higher Texas margin tax expense accruals. Including in the provision for taxes this quarter was the $7 million adjustment to the Texas margin tax expense accrual related to the legislation that was passed last quarter. Capital spending was $1.2 billion this quarter, included approximately $1.1 billion on growth capital, the majority of which was for ATEX and the NGL fractionators 7 and 8. We are on track to invest approximately $4.2 billion in growth capital this year, having invested approximately $3 billion in growth…

Randy Burkhalter

President

Okay, Molly, we’re ready to begin our Q&A.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Brian Zarahn with Barclays. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Good morning.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Good morning, Brian. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: I need you to provide some color on the new LPG export terminal. Perhaps, a range of cost, location options?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

I don’t think we ever say what it cost and we haven’t decided where we’re going to put it. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Well, Jim, can you give us some options – you have a couple of options available where you may put it and maybe some – obviously, your access to Belvieu is important, anything on that would be helpful.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

It will be on the Gulf Coast. And, you know, we have pipeline capacity that will be able to access it. We should be able to access it. We should be able – where is Mandy – probably in the next couple of weeks, we’re going to be able to say where that plant is going to be built. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Okay.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

I’m allowed to be upright. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: No. We’ll stay tent. On the – given the new projects, is there any update to 2014 expansion CapEx, I think the last update was about $3.5 billion to $4 billion.

Randy Fowler

Management

Yeah, Brian, this is Randy. I think we’re in that same range. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Okay. Just maybe in ’15 that number will be higher than initially thought. I guess and then anything on maintenance CapEx in terms of what you’re looking at for next year.

Mike Creel

CEO

You know, Brian, we’re going through our planning process now but, again, I think we’re probably going to be probably in the similar range of what we were for this year, you know, in the $325 million to $350 million range. Probably when we have our next quarterly earnings call for the fourth quarter, which will be, what, end of January beginning of February, we’ll be able to give you a better update at that point in time. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Okay. And then could you – what’s your view on the – for Seaway the ALJ [Administrative Law Judge] ruling on the tariffs and what would be – and in terms of negative outcome scenario, what type of impact do you think that could have.

Randy Fowler

Management

Listen, I don’t think we expect a negative outcome on that. You know we have gone through this process late last year, the FERC staff and the hearing had challenged these committed rates and we’re further petitioning declaratory order into the FERC to get them to essentially uphold their long-standing policy that they honor those committed rates they are entered into during open season. And we’re pleased with the response we got back from the FERC at the time. They basically said they uphold those rates. And then during the hearing and on the ALJ’s initial decision that really is a recommendation to FERC, surprisingly enough, I guess to us, she did again challenged the committed rates, so filed our refund exceptions to that as have others. We also, during that point in time, filed a motion for expedited treatment to get FERC to come out and say they honor those committed rates and I think the final paperwork will be in by the 5th and then we’ll see how long it takes the FERC to rule on that. But we’ve already heard from them once a positive ruling and we don’t expect otherwise. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Okay. Thanks, Bill. And last one for me is, given your diversification, the high coverage and a large amount of projects coming online next year, how do you view any change in your current penny a quarter distribution bump.

Mike Creel

CEO

Gee, Brian, we just increased that last year at this time. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: But you keep spending money and you keep getting cash flow.

Mike Creel

CEO

I know. It’s a high class problem. As we’ve said before, we continue to look at what our projects are in backlog and we’re in a fortunate position of having a lot of opportunities and to the extent that we have a lot of construction opportunities and are able to fund some of that internally, we think it provides better long-term returns for our unit holders. But again, we look at that every quarter and try to assess what our internal needs are and what the appropriate distribution rate is. Brian Zarahn – Barclays Capital: Thanks, Mike.

Mike Creel

CEO

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Darren Horowitz with Raymond James. Darren Horowitz – Raymond James: Jim, I got a couple of questions for you. The first, I want to go back to your comments around the excess ethane situation in the Marcellus. To what extent do you guys think first production, outpatient takeaway capacity, but more importantly, how you see that evolving over the next year and what you think that does price? And where I’m going with this is I’m wondering whether or not that changes the way that you view those two competing “y” grade solutions getting done or does it give you more confidence in additional purity ethane commitments on ATEX?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

It’s the longest question I’ve ever gotten, Darren. Darren Horowitz – Raymond James: It’s about 5 pounds of information in a 10 pound bag.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Yeah. Darren Horowitz – Raymond James: It’s the other way around actually.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Right. Yeah. Okay. Let me see if I can remember. We’re going to short line [ph] building ATEX. And in December or later – so we should have that in service sometime in January but we think about end of January we’ve been delivering into Mont Belvieu. We’re going to start at, I think – we start out at about 70,000 barrels a day, in that neighborhood. And I don’t know if we’ll see more or not but what I said was, it’s not going to surprise me as these guys are having some issues up there. In regards to the two “y” grade pipelines. We – as you know – that’s kind of why I said, we file for two more permits for fractionators. If they bring those pipe down there is going to be more fractionation capacity available. In terms of price, 70,000 barrels a day of new ethane doesn’t help it at all. Darren Horowitz – Raymond James: Yeah, okay. And then last question, just switching gears to your comments around the LPG export facility – and I recognize that you’ve got contracted commitments for that capacity but when you start thinking about what you’re adding as well as what competitors are adding, both, announced and proposed, when do you think we get to a point where the U.S. has ample export capacity to meet demand? And do you worry that we get to a point where supply additions start saturating Northwest Europe, Latin America, Asia and that diminishes the ARPU [ph] spread more so than it has and it really starts to impact propane pricing.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Well, I worry about everything. You know, I think – we call it an LPG export facility for a reason. I do believe that LPG will be exported from the U.S. but I do believe that you’re going to see a lot more butane exports in the future then we’ve seen in the past. So, yeah, I think you – there’s a point that you’re going to be exporting butane rather than propane, but I’ll look at is I’ll look at it in a context of the total rather than product specific. Darren Horowitz – Raymond James: Okay. Thanks, Jim.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Reichman with Simmons. Mark Reichman – Simmons & Company: I’ve got several questions, and good morning. Just to tag on to Darren’s question. I mean, in light of the increased export capacity being developed, I would be interested in your thoughts on the global LPG, NGL supply/demand balances and what do you think is the upper limit on demand to absorb growing U.S. exports of propane, butane and possibly ethane? And then secondary to that, how do you view the risks associated with investing in additional fractionation capacity knowing that a growing proportion of its output will be destined for export markets and does that change your investment considerations or investment criteria?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Okay. Let’s talk first – you know, as long as there is a lot of crackers in other parts of the world using naphtha, and LPG can be exported from the U.S. at a price that can displace that. I think the demand is beyond what we would traditionally think it would be. Lin, is that right?

Leonard Mallett

Analyst · Mark Reichman with Simmons

That’s correct.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Okay. So your other question of fractionation. You know, I didn’t say we’re going to build it. I said we’re going to be – we can if we choose to but, yeah, I always worry about fractionation capacity. I always hear, when we were doing deals at a penny in a quarter, so, yeah, we worry about it and we’re going to manage it.

Randy Fowler

Management

Well, one of the things we did – hang on just a second – one of the things we did is we don’t just – you know we’re kind of like an airline at Mont Belvieu, we overbook, and we use our fractionation capacity throughout our system. So, when we manage our fractionation business we’re not managing Mont Belvieu, we can get our “y” grade at almost every fractionator we got and switch it between. So what we’re looking at is we’re running Hobbs, Shoup, Mont Belvieu and our fractionation in Louisiana. We run it as one big complex and that’s how we manage it. Mark Reichman – Simmons & Company: Okay. So, I mean, you know, what I’m thinking about and I’m thinking that we’re not going to be building fractionation to support export demand. I mean, that’s kind of what I was getting at is as export demand claims a greater portion of the purity products and how does that impact – I mean, do you view international and domestic demand one and the same as long as you have fee-based contracts or as exports become a bigger part of the equation do you become a little more stringent in allocating dollars to fractionations? That was kind of where I was going with that.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

I will start off by saying I think export demand is real. I don’t think it’s specific to just LPG, we are building the export facility on retained products because we believe this market is evolving into a large export market. As in turn, I guess I look at demand as demand, I will flip and tell you – I would be very careful as a producer, so go back to the producing community, I would be very careful as a producer of hanging head on just exports. That’s why we built ours on the Gulf Coast and in combination with our ability to distribute domestically. Exports are going to be – you are going to have times when exports slow down, it’s an arbitrage game. So what we offer producers and consumers is we are going to – that product is going to flow regardless of what the demand application is for that product. Mark Reichman – Simmons & Company: I see and then just last question and I will get back in the queue. It seems the E&P industry is kind of moving from a point where multiple speculative shale plays were being probed and tested a few years ago to where today, a handful of leviathan plays generate a lion share of the production growth and returns. So given the narrowed breadth of the unconventional resource narrative, how does this impact both the competitive and investment landscape going forward for midstream operators?

Unidentified Participant

Analyst · Mark Reichman with Simmons

I guess I will take that one. This is Tom [ph]. It is true that new onboard kind of shale plays have slowed down but it’s also true that we are continuing to get more and more off the shale plays that we have and be much more efficient both from a cost standpoint and what we get in per well. So if your concern is that the shales are going to short of figure out if you will – that’s not what we believed it all. Mark Reichman – Simmons & Company: So I think it has played to your strength for those that are already in those big plays might have some implication for consolidation down the road.

Unidentified Participant

Analyst · Mark Reichman with Simmons

You mean relative to the E&P players? Mark Reichman – Simmons & Company: To the midstream operators?

Mike Creel

CEO

Mark, I think you are seeing more MLPs being formed but as always it’s difficult to do MLP combinations. Particularly when more and more of these have publicly traded GPs and frankly, as far as we are concerned, we’ve got better places to put our money.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of T.J. Schultz with RBC Capital Markets.

T.J. Schultz - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst · T.J. Schultz with RBC Capital Markets

Just one follow up on LPG marine terminals, you have the flexibility to add ethane export services, as that market develop – if you could just expand on the interest you are seeing in ethane exports or are you at the point of discussing contracts here yet?

Mike Creel

CEO

We have been in discussions with a lot of folks. Other parts of the world, I really don’t have understanding what Mont Belvieu is, for example. So there is a lot of education going on, and frankly I don’t think you can have a spread like we have ethane to naphtha and not see some opportunity to develop. I think we said that the new facility we are building we are going to have the capability to add ethane export to it if we get the interest, and we are having lot of discussions with a lot of players.

T.J. Schultz - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst · T.J. Schultz with RBC Capital Markets

And on Aegis, what are current shipper commitments and can we discuss what you are seeing from the open season right now?

Mike Creel

CEO

I think what we have said – when we made our announcement recently, I think we said we have got quite a lot of support on that to the point that we are going to – we are building it, we are looking at upsizing it. We are talking to other petrochemicals about new plants that haven’t been announced, some of them don’t reside in the U.S. and we think more to come. So I can’t – I don’t think we want to talk about, we’ve got X number of barrels a day at this point but suffice it to say it’s going to be one heck of a project. And it’s got one long life to it.

T.J. Schultz - RBC Capital Markets

Analyst · T.J. Schultz with RBC Capital Markets

And just lastly, progress on the Seaway loop, and remind me when you expect that to be in service?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

We’re still expecting it to be in service probably in the second quarter of next year. Everything is going well so far.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your next question comes from the line of John Edwards with Credit Suisse. John Edwards – Credit Suisse: Yeah, good morning, everybody.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Good morning, John. John Edwards – Credit Suisse: Just if I could follow-up TJ’s question on ethane export. What seems to be the bottleneck issue, I mean you’re saying you’re doing a lot of education with customers and such, maybe if you can talk a little bit about that?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Hi, John, this is Jim. Yeah, you know, if we were willing. I’m just saying here – if we were willing to sell ethane relative naphtha we would be building an export. Now, if you’re sitting in Europe and your life has been naphtha then the safest thing you can do is like, hey, I will buy ethane at “X” percent of naphtha, but we’re not going to do that. So that’s the education process. You know, it’s no different, frankly, in the education process that had to be done with U.S. ethylene plants. They had to come to appreciate the state of the power of shale and what – where it’s the same story again that you have to go and you have to explain to them and educate them that hey, guys, this is for real and this isn’t going to go away anytime soon and I think you’ll get there.

Mike Creel

CEO

It might be a lot easier if there were a lot of ships already in existence to transport ethane and if there were export facilities to load those ships.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

And Mike makes a good point. It’s not just an export facility. They got to spend money on their end and somebody has got to build a ship. They can’t handle this stuff right now – small ethylene carriers went.

Mike Creel

CEO

Yes. John Edwards – Credit Suisse: So, there’s also an issue with receiving the ethane, you’ll have to have some receipt terminals as well as building out transport, it sounds like.

Mike Creel

CEO

Right. John Edwards – Credit Suisse: Okay. That’s helpful. And then if I could follow-up Daren’s question about LPG export. I mean, as far as – you know, with the amount of commitments for export. I guess when do you see it starting to impact the NGL market, particularly propane? I mean, in the U.S. is what we’re thinking.

Randy Fowler

Management

Yeah, Mike just said it. I think it already has. We’ve seen propane prices go up. There is a lot of propane still being cracked so at a certain point it comes out of the cracker. I think there’s 400,000 barrels a day being cracked right now. 400,000, 420,000 something like that. And you know that’s a lot of supply that can come out. John Edwards – Credit Suisse: Okay, fair enough. And then, I guess, lastly if you have any thoughts on the how you’re thinking about things with the impact now, the recent re-widening in crude spreads, how you’re thinking about your business along the Gulf Coast.

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Re-widening? You mean relative to Brent? John Edwards – Credit Suisse: Yeah, Brent. Yeah, the WT – I mean, you know, narrowed substantially and now it’s widened back out to $10 or $12 and so we’re just thinking how – what thoughts you have regarding that going forward?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Personally I don’t think it makes a difference. I don’t think Brent has anything to do with anything anymore. I think it’s really about LLS to WTI, and that spread last outlook was, what, 2, 22.40. So, I ask the other day, how much Brent is being imported into the Gulf Coast and I don’t – Robby, I don’t think you all came up with any, did you? Zero. So, I think it certainly puts U.S. refiners in an enviable position relative to other parts of the world. So, we quit paying attention to Brent and we’re looking at LLS to WTI and jumping through it to get crude moved. John Edwards – Credit Suisse: Alright. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Michael Blum with Wells Fargo. Michael Blum – Wells Fargo Securities: Hi, good morning.

Mike Creel

CEO

Good morning, Michael. Michael Blum – Wells Fargo Securities: I guess, a question back to ATEX and ethane rejection. And, Jim, your comments that you wouldn’t be surprised to see volumes above even the contracted levels. You know what, I guess we’ve seen mostly ethane rejection mainly in kind of the Mid-continent area. Do you think as the volumes come down from on ATEX into Mont Belvieu that, that could change the dynamics for ethane rejection in the Gulf Coast, like in the Texas market, Eagle Ford et cetera and if so, would that impact the ore volumes on either your Eagle Ford or your kind of those Western pipelines that you referenced before?

Jim Teague

Chief Operating Officer

Anything is possible. 70,000 barrels a day – certainly not to going to help the price, we would be foolish to say otherwise. But we have been seeing ethane inventories drop. So I think it’s a sign of a strong demand but frankly I think there is a lot being rejected and yes, I guess you could see some more of being rejected. We watch our plants – I mean every day we are looking at the economics of our plants. We are probably in a better position than anyone else to continue to recover because of our value chain and we look at our economics across the whole value chain, not just at the plant. So far we have had one plant built that has been fairly routinely in rejection other than that, everything is extracting. Michael Blum – Wells Fargo Securities: And then maybe just in terms of your latest thoughts on industry wide what the ethane rejection number looks like?

Randy Fowler

Management

Probably 275000 a day, somewhere in that range.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time.

Randy Burkhalter

President

Okay, Molly, if you would give our participants the replay information.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for participating in today’s conference call. The call will be available for a replay beginning at 1 o’clock PM Eastern Time today through 11.59 PM Eastern Time on November 7 2013. The conference ID number for the replay is 90317221. Again the conference ID number for the replay is 90317221. The number to dial for the replay is 1-800-585-8367 or 855-859-2056. Thank you for participating in today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.

Randy Burkhalter

President

Thank you, and have a good day.