Gregory Silvers
Analyst · Ki Bin Kim from Truist. Your line is open
Again, Ki Bin, it's really about titles. And again, when we come to our estimates, we're using a variety of industry pundits, including for -- some of the major theatre analysts that some of the banks who are on the line here. And I think, again, when we say 8 to 8.4, I think, there's probably no analyst out there that doesn't have at least 9 to 10 in the 2025 number. And it's fully -- as Greg said, it's really about the number of titles. So as the production ramps back up from the writers and actor strike, we're seeing, again -- and an acknowledgment, when you combine that with an acknowledgment by all the studios that they need the theatre exhibition business. I mean, almost, I think, other than Netflix, almost all the streamers are losing money on their businesses, and they need the cash flow that's generated from the theatre exhibition movie, and they've all kind of re- kind of committed to that. And so we're getting really good visibility into titles right now, beginning right now into 2025, and it looks very strong. And again, that's not just our numbers. That's kind of pretty much industry-wide. You see some above 10, but generally, I think everyone is in the range of 9 to 10. So at a midpoint at 9.5, that's a pretty strong year compared to what we're seeing this year.