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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Fourth Quarter 2009 Brigham Exploration Company Earnings Conference Call. My name is Francis and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. We will be facilitating a question and answer session towards the end of this conference. (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today, Bud Brigham, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President. You may proceed.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Thank you, Francis. Thanks to each of you for participating in Brigham Exploration Company's year end and fourth quarter 2009 conference call. With me today we have Gene Shepherd, our CFO and Executive VP, Lance Langford, Executive VP of Operations, Jeff Larson, our Executive VP of Exploration, and Rob Roosa, our Finance Manager. Importantly, before we get started, I'd like to encourage you to be prepared such that during the course of this call you can view our conference call presentation, which can be accessed via our website at www.bexp3d.com. It includes very helpful information regarding our year end and fourth quarter 2009 results, as well as our plans for 2010. We'll be referring to the slides in the presentation during our discussion. During the call, we're going to make some forward-looking statements to help you understand our company's results. In our company's SEC filings and the press releases that were issued yesterday there are some risk factors that should be noted that might cause our actual results to differ from what we talk about today or from our projections. I encourage you to review our filings with the SEC. In addition, in this call we may use the terms probable and possible reserves that we do not include in our SEC filings. We may also discuss locations, which include proved reserves as disclosed in our SEC filings. Please refer to page two of our corporate presentation for a cautionary note to U.S. investors regarding the use of the terms probable and possible reserves and locations. Finally, a copy of our company's press releases, as well as other financial and statistical information about the periods to be presented in the call will be available on the company's website, under the section entitled Investor Relations at www.bexp3d.com. So let's get started.…

Jeff Larson

Management

Thanks Bud, slide 22 highlights our inventory of acreage and potential drilling locations in the Williston Basin. Looking at the green box and excluding the Three Forks in Rough Rider we believe that we derisked about 452 net locations in our 146,500 core acres in Easy Rider and Rough Rider. Also shown in the yellow box, we've only drill about 4% of these locations and by drilling 25.7 net wells this year; we'll develop only an additional 6%. The derisked represents more then the 17 year inventory with four rigs running and that doesn't include other objective and the potential impact of our Williston Basin acreage that we hope to de-risk in the near future. So you can understand why we would like to further accelerate our development over four rigs we are currently running to bring forward the very substantial net asset value in front of us. I should point that we've also done an excellent job managing any material lease exploration in Williston Basin. We originally designed our three rig program to stay ahead of lease explorations and now with four rigs running, we're well ahead of any material issues. Now I would like to update you by area with the summary of the key areas on slide 23. As you can see on this slide, we've actually grown our acreage position in Rough Rider to almost a 105,000 net acres at year end. Given other opportunities that are in a fairly advanced stage, we expect this position to grow further. Moving forward to slide 24, to look at our drilling results in the Rough Rider area, subsequent to our Mrachek with regards excess full of seventh stage short lateral well, we've now drilled 10 consecutive high rate, high frac stage long laterals with average early rates of…

Lance Langford

Management

Thank you, Jeff. Before I review our year-end 2009 proved reserves, the key takeaway for everyone should be the tremendous impact of our Williston Basin, Bakken and Three Forks drilling program on our 2009 reserves. This point is significant given that we just spent $50 million on drilling in the Williston Basin during 2009 and we plan to increase our drilling capital to buy 250% to $176 million in 2010. 2009 was the first year we've been able to demonstrate the immense reserve potential of the Williston Basin and we are pleased with our reserve results we announced yesterday evening. In 2008, our efforts were hampered by low commodity prices, high differentials and high service cost. In the second quarter of 2009, the situation began to reverse itself. Benefiting from the improving macro environment and the proceeds from our May 2009 equity offering, we resumed our Williston Basin drilling and completion operations. Since we restarted our drilling program in the Williston Basin, we added 9.4 million barrels of oil equivalent to our reserves and ended 2009 with our reserves at record levels. Importantly, our proved reserves were comprised of the record level of crude oil. One of the key elements of our success in the Basin was our vision on how to drill and complete our long lateral wells which has been validated by our steady improving drilling results. The credit goes to our staff. We're not a large company but we have a highly motivated and talented group of employees that are committed to delivering results for our shareholders and dedicated to being at the forefront of technological development. As a company we have transitioned from a conventional Gulf Coast exploration company to an oil resource play company with a deep inventory of Bakken and Three Forks drilling locations.…

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Thanks Lance. Before we get into a discussion of our fourth quarter and full-year 2009 results, I have several comments about the company's current CapEx plans for 2010 and current liquidity position. First, from a financial perspective the first several months of 2009 were challenging for Brigham given that many of our traditional funding sources were not available to the company. However, we never doubted the value of our inventory of Williston Basin, Bakken and Three Forks horizontal drilling locations nor our ability to continue to innovate in the drilling completion phases of our business in order to enhance well performance. During 2008 and 2009, this innovation generated an almost sequential improvement in well performance in drilling economics. And our drilling results have continued to improvement in the first several months of 2010 as demonstrated by our Liffrig completion that we announced yesterday, that experienced the highest initial production rate today for the Three Forks and with our 13th consecutive high rate long lateral completion. With the benefit of the two equity offerings and our new senior credit facility that were completed last year, combined with the further derisking of our 104,700 net acres in a Rough Rider project area West of the Nesson Anticline, the growth in our production and reserve volumes are at an inflection point with a huge inventory of low risk Williston Basin horizontal drilling opportunities in front of us. In 2010, Brigham is poised to benefit dramatically from this inventory with an acceleration in drilling activity that we have been building to ever since we began to experience the upper trend in horizontal well performance in mid 2008. In terms of our updated 2010 CapEx budget outlined on slides 41 and 42, we currently plan to spend a $183.7 million on drilling CapEx and $15.7…

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Thanks, Gene. That concludes our prepared comments. We would be happy to answer any questions.

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

A great release, a welcome relief from some of the others. I'm curious on the Bakken reserves, the 600. Did you see much variance between West of the Anticline or East of the Anticline in the booking in the reserves?

Lance Langford

Management

Yeah, Subash this is Lance. We got that 150,000 core acres pretty much well in every corner and every niche of that area and we are seeing some variance in EURs. It could even be on side, either east or the west. We see variance into those areas. And so we're looking at that. We just don't have enough well data to tell what the variance is by area by area. So by the end of 2010 we will have a better feel for that.

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

Okay. A couple of references to the Continental call. I was on it, probably had to hop too early. Did they give a rate on that Thorvald well?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

I don't believe that they did.

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

Okay. And in their conference call, the part that I got, the sort of 430,000 per barrel, it looks like their first month average is 430. From your slide, the 11 or so wells averaged 1000 barrels with reserve midpoint of 600,000. And so I'm curious, any commentary? How we should think about that? If there are revisions, what's your tolerance on what those revisions could be? I would assume it's not going to be one to one like the Continental release. But could it be?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

I'm not sure what you're talking about on one to one but….

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

I'm sorry; I meant the 430 barrels average in the first month equals 430,000 barrels in reserves. So not one to one sorry but 1000 to one or whatever the number is?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

I don't have that view point in that first 30 day versus the EURs. I think there is a co-relation from IPD [ph] EUR in a better correlation from 30 day to EUR and a better correlation from 90 day to EUR. So, you can plot that and I think Tudor Pickering, they actually did some of that but we do it routinely. But I think the one thing that I got out of what they said about their reserves is they're seeing increased rates using more stages and Continental is a great company and I think they're one of the companies we emulated when we got in and we're glad to see them pushing the number stages along because I think that rate that they're seeing, they have the wells on long enough to see the EURs increase, prove for but we have and we believe they will see higher EURs and as they increase the number of stages even further they will see higher EURs than what they're getting right now.

Lance Langford

Management

This (inaudible), I think overtime we're going to have more data and probably better be able to quantify as you're saying, for 30 days kind of have a better feel for that relationship in the EURs relative to the 30 days.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

The difficulty in it is you've got varying completion techniques. And so, when we look…

Lance Langford

Management

And profits.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Yeah and profits, and when we look at ours we're building a database now of just our wells where we got it in a more controlled environment as a variable.

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

In the non Bakken, what was the non Bakken CapEx in 2010?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

It was really like five. It was not a big number. When you drill a (inaudible) When you drill well $4 million and then we got may be another $1 million of other West Texas.

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

So in that context, how much of risk is there, do you see sort of continued, part of eliminations from the non Bakken portfolio and so how much of that can be rescued through discretionary means like drilling versus price?

Lance Langford

Management

Well I think that we are not going to see that on an on going basis, pretty much our reserves are left in the PUD side with Bakken and Three Forks and then of course our Vicksburg play. We still have our PUDs in there and then I think we have one hunting PUD and so we're pretty much limited in what we could have and we have nothing to drop and those things, we left then in there because we feel strongly that we're going to drill.

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

Okay.

Lance Langford

Management

We're just waiting for our gas prices to move it closer to this year.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

And Subash on the non Bakken CapEx, drilling CapEx is $7.9 million. $5.3 million of that is the Vicksburg well that's currently drilling...

Subash Chandra - Jefferies

Management

And one last one from me. Any signs of life in the Mowry shale program? Any commentary there?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

No, we know some other operators that are active in the area and apparently getting more active. Jeff, I don't know if you want to add anything?

Jeff Larson

Management

Yeah, Subash, Jeff here. We continue to monitor the activity in the Southern powder. We still think that the technology needs to be unlocked there. I think there is oil in place and obviously the Mowry is a source rock and vertical wells are produced out of the Mowry. We think there is some other technological formula that needs to be applied there but we're watching other operators try.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Michael Jacob with Tudor, Pickering & Holt. Michael Jacob - Tudor, Pickering & Holt: You talked a little bit about the numbers that Cawley is giving you on the wells, and I want to just focus on the most recent higher order completions. On average what is Cawley giving you for 1P reserves and what could a proved plus probable plus possible case look like?

Lance Langford

Management

Well, Mike, this is Lance. So right now Cawley has given us just on the producing wells just a 1P number. We discussed and there is a 2P number to that for those producing wells. Just like I discussed, one of the major factors is the final decline rates. If they're actually lower we're going to have significant revisions as we go forward. So that's part of the 2P and there is also the B factors that are assumed there. So you assume a little more aggressive B factor you get additional reserves and so we did not quantify those or have Cawley quantify that on the producing wells. We strictly did our 2P on undrilled locations. Michael Jacob - Tudor, Pickering & Holt: And on the propant cocktail, I was wondering if you can give us a little bit of color and specifically as you're tinkering with these various options, how do you think about the costs and the EUR trade off between increasing fracling density versus lengthening those fraclings with more propant?

Lance Langford

Management

Well I think that we've showed that as you increase the number of stages, our economics have improved dramatically. The stage we're in now is watching production, trying to determine what is the optimal number of stages and what's the optimum amount of ceramics to pump and then once we find that out and we will continue to look at economics as costs go up or the price of oil goes up or down, the cost of the services go up or down but right now I think that what we're doing is working well. I don't see us making any dramatic changes that I can see unless we find something that's working better. Michael Jacob - Tudor, Pickering & Holt: And any thoughts the Khorat [ph] well is drilling now, any idea what EOG is doing there in terms of lateral length and completion design just so when we can get that data, we just want to correlate it to the Rogney Well.

Jeff Larson

Management

Yeah this is Jeff. It looks like to us its going to be a 640. They've listed it to the NDIC as a Bakken well but you know how the NDIC is. You can either drill a Three Forks or Bakken well when you call it Bakken but it’s our belief that it will be a Bakken well but we're definitely watching it. Obviously we've got off that acreage.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

And we don't know like the stages or anything on that.

Lance Langford

Management

The only thing we know is what they've said publicly. They haven't shared anything with us. Michael Jacob - Tudor, Pickering & Holt: And last question, I jumped on the call a little late so I apologize if you already said this but could you provide us with the net proved developed and proved undeveloped locations on both 640s and 1280s

Lance Langford

Management

Yeah, we did it in the call. Michael Jacob - Tudor, Pickering & Holt: If you did in the call, I can just grab it later.

Lance Langford

Management

O the proved developed it’s 10 on 1280s and nine on 640s and then on the PUDs it was 28 on 1280 and four on 640.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Scott Hanold with RBC.

Scott Hanold - RBC

Management

A question on your sort of pace of development. Obviously you all indicated several times that you want to bring forward the value and when you step back and look at what you have in your hands, four or maybe six rigs could handle and then due to the potential, you need to accelerate more if Ghost Rider starts to work. What are your additional capital options, and how do you rank that?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

I'll start but Gene's really going to answer the question primarily. We start with well out performance and we're continuing to see improving well performance as we go forward here. So that's the first time that could provide incremental capital. Go ahead Gene. You want to take it from there.

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Our cash flow is going to be ramping up pretty dramatically as you move through the year. Even as we exit the year, we may or may not have any need for the credit facility, the borrowing base. It currently has a zero balance and obviously as we drill more and more wells, this is really becoming just almost exclusively a developmental type program and certainly you can argue relative to maybe where we were last year, you can argue that we look forward to take on more debt when you're in just that development drilling. So, certainly using incremental debt and I'm really, obviously the budget this year will be funded out of cash flow and the cash that's on the balance sheet. The big components of liquidity for next year will be the higher level of cash flow in 2011, the unused credit facility or something comparable to that and really use of some leverage. And then the proceeds from the sale of some, all or some subset of our conventional assets and I think if you modeled 20 -- the current level of activity that we have announced for 2010, if you hold that level constant, then we're going cash flow positive in 2012. So, I think you could argue that we're in great shape if we want to hold our activity level constant so that we're not really having to look to other external sources for capital other than drawing down the credit facility or doing some debt like transaction. But obviously there is an interest in accelerating above and beyond what we have announced today. So, that will be function of a whole series of issues, obviously well out performance will give us some incremental – we expect to have some incremental liquidity this year from the outperformance relative to what we're budgeting for our wells.

Scott Hanold - RBC

Management

Okay, okay, very good. And so on that subject, Gene, did you indicate 2010 budget is based on a $6.8 million well cost in the Bakken?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Yeah, that CapEx number that I give you was 6.825 and then we have 5% overage factor to that number to further gross it up, just to protect ourselves in the event we have some unforeseen issues. And then that all feeds into the budget, it gets us to the drilling CapEx that we announced.

Scott Hanold - RBC

Management

Okay. Because, correct me if I'm wrong, you guys have been drilling the wells so far for about $6 million to $6.5 million. Are you starting to see some pressures in the field on service costs and what can you do or have you done to further mitigate some of that?

Lance Langford

Management

Yes Scott, this is Lance. I think probably the largest problem in the field is just manpower and it's really about the cost of manpower. That continues to go up when it’s booming like this and so that impacts everybody across the board. So you should see some cost just from the intangible part like manpower but we've had, of course rigs are picking up, we’re at record levels again now, put some more pressure on stimulations but the thing that we have done is we have got some long term contracts that limit how much they can adjust. Manpower is typically one that we give people direct increases in manpower. So, we're having increases in cost but not that significant so far. And we think that as we come out of the winter, we'll offset some of these increases in cost just by the reduction in winter operations, the extra cost associated there.

Scott Hanold - RBC

Management

And on the Ghost Rider testing, did you say that was mid-March when you were going to spud that, and can you just clarify when we could expect to hear results on that?

Jeff Larson

Management

Yes, Scott, Jeff. We said sometime in March, looks like it will be a spud and just as a reminder it will be a 100% test. And typically with core operations, you can be 30 plus days before you get the core analysis back after you basically TDed the post-hole. And that well also Scott we're going to core basically -- we will core that content. There has been a lot of discussion recently about the Scallion. I mean you heard Continental Resource speak of the Scallion in their Traxel well. We’ll probably core that Scallion, which is at base Lodgepole member right against the upper Bakken shale, then we will core the full Bakken section, upper Three Forks and then our plan is to also the Niski [ph] we're very interested in. Our plan is to then drill that post hole down the Niski [ph] and DST it. So I mean we are going to be pretty thoughtful about and it will take a bit of time. It could be as long as the end of second quarter before you see production.

Scott Hanold - RBC

Management

And then also on Continental’s release, they talked about a well that sort of stepped out on to the Northern part of Elm Coulee. Does that have any analogies to your Ghost Rider?

Jeff Larson

Management

I think, when you look at that well, we've watched those wells. At Elm Coulee, there is a tight area between Elm Coulee and Ghost Rider where were picked back up our porosity number and they're just kind of on the edges of their porosity in the Elm Coulee trend but we are watching it and we're well aware of the Sinclair well in Northwest Elm Coulee also which were step out wells and some of those are actually pretty encouraging wells. A couple of those that are over 200,000 barrel EURs and as you then move to the north from the Sinclair well that porosity improves significantly in Ghost Rider.

Scott Hanold - RBC

Management

One last question. Could you provide the PV10 value of PDP versus PUD?

Jeff Larson

Management

Well, I don't have that in front of me. We'll have to get back with you on that one.

Lance Langford

Management

And I know that our PV10 values are typical 600,000 barrels at current strip prices, the net was like $9.5 million. So, that’s sort of a generic type.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Freeman with Raymond James. You may proceed.

John Freeman - Raymond James

Management

Most of my questions have been answered at this point just a few. What percentage of your Bakken acreage at this point is held by production?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

It’s pretty small. I would say 28%; we'll do some math on that real quick.

John Freeman - Raymond James

Management

And while you are looking at that, the reason that I asked is obviously there has been, you all have made several references to maybe looking at additional possible JVs like you did with U.S Energy that obviously worked out really well. And then specifically you mentioned the Ross area. Does that particular area have any near-term lease expiration issues relative to the rest of your acreage?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

This is Bud. We are well ahead, go ahead, Jeff.

Jeff Larson

Management

Jeff here. We're in great shape on our lease expirations. First of all talking about Rough Rider then I will hop to Easy Rider. In Rough Rider, our wells are actually, this year we'll actually drill expirations that aren't even out until 2011. So we basically have mitigated all the 2010 expirations and we're actually gearing 2011 expirations already with our two rigs in Rough Rider. In Easy Rider our lease expiration schedule is even a lot better than it is in Rough Rider. So with our current four rig program we feel very comfortable that we're going to be able to control our acreage.

John Freeman - Raymond James

Management

And on the Montana slide that you'll have in your presentation, I'm just a little bit confused. On there is a well, the Sweetman that says it's going to be completed in March. It's like obviously you have all been referencing the Rogney well. What is going on with the Sweetman?

Jeff Larson

Management

The Sweetman is actually a well that we're in. It's a long lateral Bakken well and they're waiting for it to come out of winter time operation before they frac that well and so we have got a small interest, I think we’ve got 3% or 4% and basically we're just waiting on that completion

John Freeman - Raymond James

Management

Okay. So it would sound like we would actually most likely get results on that well before the one you're actually operating.

Jeff Larson

Management

I think you’d probably see results on that well and also the the EOG Khorat [ph], the fourth one we're operating.

John Freeman - Raymond James

Management

But I mean at least the Sweetman; you could control actually the release unlike, EOG?

Jeff Larson

Management

Yeah, we have an interest in the well. So we'll have real time data on the Sweetman.

John Freeman - Raymond James

Management

And then at least on the slide, do you know if that Sweetman well, was it drilled with the utilization of 3-D like your Rogney will be?

Jeff Larson

Management

We believe it was not. Remember our Ghost Rider 3-D is basically a 70 square mile proprietary data volume and there is a fairly extensive 2-D data grid across the basin. We are not sure if U.S Energy [ph] is that active on the geophysical front.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Hey, John, your HBP acreage in the Bakken is 19,000 acres. That's the core.

Lance Langford

Management

Yeah, that's just in the core 150,000 acres. So you can do a percentage of it, but its 19,000 acres HBP in the Bakken.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Steve Berman with Pritchard & Capital Partners. You may proceed. Steve Berman - Pritchard & Capital Partners: Just a couple left. One clarification, the 105,000 net acres in Rough Rider, was that before backing out the 5,000 that U.S Energy can earn?

Lance Langford

Management

They've only earned based on the wells that have been drilled today. So the 5,000 would, and you would ultimately back out, would assume that on the back end of drilling all 15 wells. Steve Berman - Pritchard & Capital Partners: But ultimately the 105 could be 100.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

It’s really not that simple because as you recall I am sure, the initial wells they're given equity in but their subsequent wells in those spacing units, the equity flips and we have like 64% and they have like 36%. So it’s kind of complicated calculation, but it would be something less than that 5,000.

Gene Shepherd

CFO

We arrived at the 5,000 based on three wells per drilling unit. And they and we're participating to maximum of our interest. So we drilled a third of the wells and maybe a third of the number is captured in 105 and there still additional acreage to earn up to that 5000 acres as we finish drilling up those JV well this year.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

And Steve one thing to add is Jeff touched on, that acreage position is grown from roughly 100,000 acres at year-end, 105 today and we've got transactions in the works. We're very confident we're going to grow that position. Steve Berman - Pritchard & Capital Partners: And my other question is, I know you say you are still early in the process here, but in terms of the number of frac stages with last several wells have kind of been in the 29 to 30. Do you think you've kind of hit that maximum sweet spot if you will or can we see even longer laterals in this kind of 29 to 32 stages that you're at now.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Steve, Lance will have probably have more to stay on this. This is Bud. Initially what we're trying to do (inaudible) in the different areas we're seeing a little bit different well performance in EURs and so we want to have one variable. An additional variable would be geography. So in a given area we're going in line with the 30-32 frac stages. So we're getting that control and then look at the performance on those wells and then we'll evaluate whether to go to higher frac stages or maybe start varying something else in some of those areas. Lance you do want to add to that?

Lance Langford

Management

Yeah, I think the one thing that we might start varying soon, we are still trying to figure out what the ultimate number of stage is and we think that's going to vary from area to area and then the next step we want to go to pumping more profit and getting larger frac weights with the same number of stages to see what the impact is there.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : I've just got a couple of questions. First, what percentage of the 150,000 acres they have in Ross in the vicinity and Rough Rider has proved reserves on it at this point?

Jeff Larson

Management

We just calculated, it was about 4%.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Its 19,000 acres of proved developed. Its 4.2. That's in proved. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : And how many would be PUDs?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Yeah, that's pretty developed.

Jeff Larson

Management

That's correct, that was 19,000 acres of the 150,000 as developed. So 4.2% proved developed. You didn't calculate for the total proved, did you? 36 proceeds; 35,000 acres possibly would be the total PUD. With the proved PUD,

Bud Brigham

Chairman

It would be about 19,000 proved developed and about an incremental 35,000 or 36,000 proved and undeveloped. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : All right. And it looked like the well program that you have going forward is more weighted towards the middle of the year, and that seemed to change from what you had before.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Yeah, what they on, that's a net wells completed by quarter on that slide and the way the drilling schedule works out, there is some high equity wells including that are going to be drilled on the plan in that period and so on a net basis, its inflated there in those (inaudible).

Jeff Larson

Management

We've modeled the activity and assumed four wells, keeping four rigs constant for the full year. So, in terms of gross wells I would think that it's going to be pretty even over the course of 2010. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Okay. Is that net well account, is that based on the before payout or after payout number for the DPA?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

I think it's the before payout. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Before payout?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

That working interest will increase as those probably won't increase this year at least for the sake of the wells we're going this year certainly, though it'll be next year. We would back in for incremental working interest when those wells do payout. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : All right, your agreement I remember and there was a slide that showed kind of an assumption that you had with 75% of ownership in the leases that, from the DPA leases, you would own about 75% of those? Is that still the case going forward for the remaining blocks sections in that agreement?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

You're talking about US Energy? Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Yeah, you would have -- you know they would participate in a pertain certain percentage of what you owned, and you said that you would own about 75% of interest in those blocks?

Jeff Larson

Management

I mean just kind as a reminder right now, I am surely the three rigs we have running in Rough Rider currently they are not in any of those wells. So and basically the agreement is that by the end of 2010 they'll have the opportunity to get in up to 15 wells gross wells and that's a very important because the interest we've got industry partners in all these drilling locations so the interest can drop significantly and potentially some of the wells that they are in and which it mitigate the company has. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Okay.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

That's a lot bit complicated but in general what came on the last set of wells we elected to the 50% interest. So, the 50-50 plus we have the back in on their interest on the initial wells and then on the subsequent wells in those units it would be a 64% Brigham and 36% US Energy. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Okay. But your interest in those blocks, you get to select which blocks.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

That's right. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Okay.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

We've got a better answer on your question on the percent of our acreage is falling in the proved category both developed and PUD is about 39% of that 150,000 core. Now I will point out that proved for the first well because we are only obviously booking one well, we think we are going to be developing three wells in these areas. So drill three wells for both the Bakken and three wells for the Three Forks ultimately. Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : Okay so that's only one well per block?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

That's right. That's what (inaudible).

Jeff Larson

Management

And then you also note the comment that Lance made that the PUDs were only typically booked at about 80% of the prudent developed well is there. So they discounted some at 20% Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : There were some questions earlier that asked about the decline curve. I don't know if you have give out that information, but what does the decline curve look like for the declining per year?

Lance Langford

Management

You can look at our ad on our website and get some indication of how the wells are performing and I don't think we've put out a tag curve today so… Joel Musante - C.K. Cooper & Company : What are you assuming after the first year, I guess? Because most of those wells are within one year…

Lance Langford

Management

I think the way we do, we don't assume so much one year, so much the next year. We've got the decline curve in it. It varies, what the top curve we're using and so we do it on the in an areas database.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

And obviously if its hyperbolic and it goes to 8% terminal, then we think there is typical to kind of see 5% to 6% terminal so there is opportunity for positive revisions down the road.

Lance Langford

Management

We said we typically, we've only announced that we're producing the year 80,000 to 140,000 barrels in that range.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Ron Mills from Johnson Rice

Ron Mills - Johnson Rice

Management

Just a question on the stimulation, as you'll continued and I know Lance, you and I spoken about it, spoken to a lot of other operators about what you're doing. Has there been, like we've seen in Angel and other plays, any sort of consortium, and now that I know people are still leasing, but how interactive have the industry partners been in terms of discussing the various completion techniques.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Well I'll start but Lance is probably have more to say on this, but we were in that consortium in Montreal County early on and I think that was beneficial where operators were working together. One thing that we've done is we've had a couple of meetings now with the University of Texas Petroleum Engineering professors and they are touted as being the top academic institution involved in R&D regarding stimulations and they've done a lot of work in the gas shale plays and with our exchanges that we've had, it just further convinces us that we are very, very early in figuring out how to optimally stimulate these reservoirs and get the tremendous amount of oil that's in place out of them and so we're in discussions with them about developing a plan for working together where they can help us and we can help them further their research and we may develop a plan for another consortium which is a real possibility. Lance, do you want anything to that?

Lance Langford

Management

Yes as far as communicating with better operators, we communicate different desks with different operators but recently it seems like that most of the communication is trying to understand what we're doing and how we're doing it and you can see it through the basin. You see everybody pushing to more stages and at last people move in the ceramic and I think you will see that to continue and then as that happens, we'll be able to gather more data to try and figure out the best way or better way to complete the optimum way to complete these wells and over the entire basin. Does that answer your question?

Ron Mills - Johnson Rice

Management

Yeah it does and then I think Gean you talked about the present value of the Bakken well that based on your current well cost and 600,000 barrels and so on your presentation, it look like it was just $75 oil or plus or minus $18.5 million of PV. I think you said something higher currently.

Gene Shepherd

CFO

We just ran this morning based on strip prices, the 6.825. It was like $9.5 million is the net number, the net PV creation after subtracting out the drilling CapEx. That's current price.

Ron Mills - Johnson Rice

Management

And then probably for you, Lance, just on the 600,000 barrel EUR, I know that that's I know that that's Cawley, Gillespie, what they have been booking and you've talked about that number for quite some time. Importantly, you have talked about that number going back well before you had really instituted or had the kind of actual production results to date. You know, at what point or what's it going to take to be able to start talking about that 500,000 to 700,000 barrel range maybe being a little bit higher just due to the higher initial productivity or is it more of a reserved acceleration issue rather than reserve additions by completing the wells the way you are?

Lance Langford

Management

We know that by completing the wells, the way we are that we are increasing EUR, so we know it's not an acceleration. What the level of those increased EURs, we're going to find out more over time. I think that the numbers that we're giving you in the range, our wells are averaging in there. I think they are going to be varying from area to area, but what we do know is that our wells in our areas are the best wells and it's definitely EURs and not acceleration. As we get more history, you got to remember we just have a year and a couple of months as our oldest 20 states long laterals and that's the oldest one by far end in the industry other than the other ones that we drill. So, we just don't have enough production data to get to the final decline rates and what are the impacts, the positive impacts through the ceramics versus the sand and I think its going to separate us from the operators that even going to more stages that are pumping sand. Later in the life, we'll have a better production rates in the sands is what we predict from looking at this technology and then we'll also determine if we're going to have a 5% or 6% final decline rate or an 8% decline rate in. We just have to have more time and I think that's at least another year out to see that. But I think as we along we'll become more and more confident.

Ron Mills - Johnson Rice

Management

And then, Bud you mentioned something and it raised one last question from me. On the US Energy group deal, have you all just drilled the first six wells in that first set of wells? I think, as you said you agreed to 50% level in the next slate of four wells, and I think the third group is five wells. But do all 15 of those wells have to be drilled by the end of this year for them to earn that acreage? Is that what I understood you said?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Yes. We have to drill all of those by year end that's correct.

Jeff Larson

Management

Ron Jeff here, we six drilled but we seven, eight, nine are currently completing or getting ready to complete.

Ron Mills - Johnson Rice

Management

Okay. And then I assume based on what you do with the second group and with the kind of results that what you would likely elect to do on the fourth or on the third group is to take as high as to that 64% level that…

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Yes, we are going to maximize our interest, that's right.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Scialla with Thomas Weisel Partners. Please proceed

Mike Scialla - Thomas Weisel Partners

Management

Hi guys, I had to get on your call late, so I apologize if you have already addressed any of these questions. But I was wondering in terms of the Rough Rider area, how do you expect the geologic properties that in the Three Forks to compare to what you're seeing over in Ross?

Jeff Larson

Management

All right Jeff here, the things that I got us excited about Rough Riders is not only the early time production to the South East of us by a couple of operators and notably Encore and Panther, both drilled Three Forks well using single end controlled fracs to make some decent wells as the Panther well IPed over 500 barrels a day, so that very encouraging and we know what the rock looks like in that area and then also we just kind of resources announced their (inaudible) well today just west of our Rough Rider block completed in the Three Forks and pulling back very encouraging and we've got a core in our Olson well and what we like about our core in the Olson well in the upper Three Forks is we see that same clean Gamma Ray that dolomite member that we see working for us on the east side of Nesson and Mountrail. Looks very similar to us in Rough Rider and also we have got good oil saturations in our core in the Olson well which is in middle of our Rough Rider block. So we like a lot of things that we are seeing, surely we just need to get a rolling it and get it top and be stimulated and we're very excited about the opportunity there.

Mike Scialla - Thomas Weisel Partners

Management

Do you see that same dolomite section over in the Ghost Rider area or no?

Jeff Larson

Management

We do, it's a little bit thinner but we do see it and its thinned up I would say, its probably 20%, 30% thinner than we see in Rough Rider.

Mike Scialla - Thomas Weisel Partners

Management

So, that will be the target zone, though, for the Rogney well?

Jeff Larson

Management

No, that's not correct. The target zone for the Rogney will Bakken. And the middle Bakken in the Rogney well, a number of things we like. There is a real close control point to the south as we put on in the website, the middle Bakken is about 35 feet thick, very comparable to what we see in Rough Rider and its also got very well developed middle Bakken porosity which we like a lot and then also the upper Bakken and lower Bakken shales are thermally maturing, very resistive. So we think there's a lot of things going forward in Rough Rider or in Ghost Rider. So we're excited about but (inaudible) us drill in middle Bakken test in Ghost Rider.

Mike Scialla - Thomas Weisel Partners

Management

Can you guys stick with the long lateral approach in similar kind of high number of frac stages?

Jeff Larson

Management

We are scheduled for 1280 and more plants are to be completed very similar to our Rough Rider well.

Mike Scialla - Thomas Weisel Partners

Management

: And last one from me, it sounds like you're not ready to revisit the (inaudible) at this point but any of the other emerging horizontal oil plays in the Rockies pick your interest in (inaudible) or Frontier anything else?

Jeff Larson

Management

Jeff here again, I think we are very interested in a bunch of different areas as there has been a lot of press recently about areas in and around of Williston Basin. We are very interested in the oily place and I have got guys in the group looking at a number of different resource plays to look for an excellent for us.

Mike Scialla - Thomas Weisel Partners

Management

Anything on the budget this year for acreage in those?

Jeff Larson

Management

Not at this point.

Gene Shepherd

CFO

It just minimal amount at this point.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Derrick Whitfield from Canaccord. You may proceed.

Derrick Whitfield - Canaccord

Management

Thinking on the Ghost Rider here, how does the thickness and porosity in the Ghost Rider middle Bakken compare to the Rough Rider middle Bakken?

Jeff Larson

Management

When you look at the and we got the Olson port out there and we've also got the logs for the offset well to the Rogney which will help on your thickness analysis but when you look at the middle Bakken very comparable in regard to thickness, within a couple of feet of each other 30 to 35 feet in both areas in the middle Bakken and then I think importantly when you look at that log on the website, in Ghost Rider, that real nice low bate porosity you see on that log just south of what our horizontal well is going to be actually touches 10% porosity which has us very encouraged and that's the type of porosity that we've mapped all throughout our Rough Rider area and that's what drove us to our acreage selection in Rough Rider and also our acreage selection in Ghost rider. Its identifying that nice low base and middle Bakken porosity and leasing where we see it.

Derrick Whitfield - Canaccord

Management

Got it. Thanks for that. And then maybe for Lance, what are your thoughts on using restrained initial flow rates to increase recovery as we've heard about in the Haynesville and Eagle Ford as of recent?

Lance Langford

Management

Well we are not doing that right now and I have done that in the past and its really never made any significant difference in the EUR. Another good reason for holding back is sub $5 gas I would think also but you can afford to that more but that theory has been pushed around a lot over the years and I am not saying there is not validity to it, I am sure there is in certain areas but we haven't considered doing it so far.

Derrick Whitfield - Canaccord

Management

Okay. And then a final question, what 30 day average rates are you guys using for your production forecast in the Bakken?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

We are taking in the average of our wells and build the top curve in the areas, I don't know what exactly what the first 30 days is but it starts on a daily rate in areas and declines and of course it declines rapidly in that first 30 days, but its modeled off our production so it ought to be similar to what we are seeing here.

Derrick Whitfield - Canaccord

Management

Okay. So it would be in 900 type range if I'm looking at your latest slides?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Yeah that slide will be helpful on that.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

We are modeling an average in that model.

Gene Shepherd

CFO

That slide showing our wells should be helpful to you to definitely remodel there.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Yeah we are doing an average.

Operator

Operator

And your next question will be from the line of Jessica Lee from JPMorgan. You may proceed.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

This is Joe Allman, hi everybody. I know you mentioned this or referred to this several times during the call, but what did Cawley and Gillespie give you in terms of reserves for your PUDs in the Bakken, and also what's the implied number for the PDPs?

Lance Langford

Management

We didn't give the actual numbers Joe. You give them back into and we gave that our operated our operated PUDs were 80% of our operated PDP.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

I guess what I mean is I am sorry on a per well basis.

Lance Langford

Management

We didn't disclose that. We just said that the average of the wells fall within our 500 to 700 MBoe.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Okay and is it fair to say that Cawley and Gillespie for the larger number of frac wells, did they give you more rather than less or was that on the high end versus the low end?

Lance Langford

Management

Cawley and Gillespie look at each individual well and location independently and took into account the offset results, so they did give us some credit for our results. If we're the operator, if we're not the operator we've got less results because we have less impact on that completion technology. so I don't know if that answers your question but this.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

So for the wells that you operated, were you did more frac stages, did you generally get a high EUR.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Joe this is Bud, you can see that we have a slide in there based on the reserves that they quantified for our wells and so its 36, our fleet developed drilling task were $13.75 a barrel relative to the non-operated was $27.67 a barrel.

Lance Langford

Management

Yes, but he's asking about the PUDs aren't you?

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Actually I mean both and so PUDs and PDP?

Lance Langford

Management

Yes the PDPs are based on the actual results. But for poor then they've got a poor EUR and if the results were good, each individual well, if it was good you got, but you could see that in our EUR they are significantly better. The PUDs are more complicated than that because you have to take into consideration whose operating for one, and then one of the results not just your well, but the offering wells.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Joe this is Bud, you can see from what we have been talking about as far as type well performance in EURs, we're talking of $10 to $18 a barrel drill dollar on finding costs. And as we just mentioned, probably quantifies our proved developed operated drill finding cost at 1375 a barrel equivalent. So it's in that range.

Lance Langford

Management

The other thing you would expect to see Joe is those PUDs going up overtime. A lot of the offset in the non-operated wells, those EURs are poor because they are old completion technology and a lot of the industry is moving towards our completion techniques that we are using are similar. So I expect to see EURs go up across the board and then plus on our operated as I said, our operated PUDs were 80% of our operated PDPs. I expect that there is some upside in reserve revisions going forward.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

So when you get to 500,000 to 700,000 barrel number, that's the average for the PDP that you got from Cawley and Gillespie?

Lance Langford

Management

Yes, for our long lateral multistage. All of them.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

And the PUDs would be just on average 80% of that?

Lance Langford

Management

Yes for our operated PUD, well that's the majority of what's driving our value.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Got you, and what about the B factor that Cawley and Gillespie used? Do you have that?

Lance Langford

Management

Well, I don't have that in front of me for PUDs, I am sure he's using the average one and I am not sure exactly what it is and then on the PDP wells, I am sure he is looking at those individually and they have different ones.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Got you. And Bud you, you brought up the $13.75 per barrel in the growth engine through developed F&D. So what's the numerator using there and what's the denominator there for that calculation?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Well, that's just the drilling cost is and it's the reserves.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Yes, so what's the value? What is the number actually? Do you have that in front of you?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

No, I don't have that Joe. Once you circle back with us.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Okay that will do. And then lastly, just for Gene. You might have said this and it might be in your press release and I missed it, I apologize. So what was cash on hand at year-end, what's cash on hand now, and then I just want to check on that because I'm not…

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Yes, one was where it was at year end and 1.18 as of today.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Okay, got you.

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Cash marketable securities and cash equivalence.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Okay. So 1.18 as of today?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

As of this morning.

Joe Allman - JPMorgan

Management

Okay. And so when you are talking about needing to finance, is raising equity a possibility for you guys for this year as one way to accelerate the drilling?

Gene Shepherd

CFO

Based on the budget that we have outlined No. I There would absolutely there will be no reason to do it, because we have got $100 million and almost to $120 million of cash and given that in our cash flow, we are able to fully finance this year's budget, so based on the current level of CapEx, the answer would be no.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Dan McSpirit from BMO Capital Markets. You may proceed.

Dan McSpirit - BMO Capital Markets

Management

When you report your wells, you do so over "early 24 hour throwback period". Is that the first 24 hours or how is that decided?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

Its kind of the peak early 24 hour throwback. Its obviously very early, but its 24 consecutive hours.

Lance Langford

Management

Its probably within the first few days because some of the wells flow back a lot of water and they all flow back a lot of water but some of the wells have a low all cut early on for the first day or two, so it depends on when it actually turns the corner and starts making the higher or low volumes.

Dan McSpirit - BMO Capital Markets

Management

Okay great. And then turning to your presentation on slide 23 where you give some production history here on wells drilled in the Bakken and in the Williston Basin, is it possible to give current rates on any of these wells? Do you have that data handy?

Bud Brigham

Chairman

I don't have that handy.

Jeff Larson

Management

But overtime we are going to be filling this chart out and continue to fill in the 30 day rate and then possibly overtime…

Unidentified Company Representative

Management

Yes, obviously overtime as we have more and more history as well it will be able to provide more and more data.

Unidentified Company Representative

Management

Because you see we did write that charts where you can see, those are pretty up to date, in the corporate present.

Unidentified Company Speaker

Management

And you can look at it and see…

Unidentified Company Speaker

Management

We are going to find then and there, yeah, you could see it Dan on that.

Dan McSpirit - BMO Capital Markets

Management

Okay. And then I'm sorry, I missed the answer to the question that was raised earlier on what the assumed first-year decline rate was?

Lance Langford

Management

Well, what we have said in the past is that we in the first year we usually make 80,000 to 140,000 MBO in a first year and our top curve is in the middle there somewhere.

Operator

Operator

At this time I'll turn the call over to Mr. Bud Brigham for our closing remarks.

Bud Brigham

Chairman

This is Bud Brigham again, I want to thank everybody for the participation in the call and we look forward to reporting on our first quarter results.