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Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Mon, Jul 27, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the EQT Q2 2020 Quarter Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to your speaker today, Andrew Breese, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Andrew Breese

Analyst

Good morning. And thank you for joining today's conference call. With me today are Toby Rice, President and Chief Executive Officer; and David Khani, Chief Financial Officer. The replay for today's call will be available on our website for a seven-day period, beginning this evening. The telephone number for the replay is 1-800-585-8367 with a confirmation code of 6066685. In a moment, Toby and David will present their prepared remarks with a question-and-answer session to follow. During these prepared remarks, they may refer to certain slides that have been published in a new investor presentation, which is available on the Investor Relations portion of our website. I'd like to remind you that today's call may contain forward-looking statements. Actual results and future events could materially differ from these forward-looking statements because of factors described in today's earnings release and in the Risk Factors section of our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2019. And in subsequent filings we make with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. Today's call may also contain certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to this morning's earnings release for important disclosures regarding such measures, including reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP financial measures. And with that, I'll turn it over to Toby.

Toby Rice

Analyst

Thanks Andrew and good morning everyone. Today, I’m particularly excited as we have recently eclipsed our one-year anniversary at the Company. I plan to provide an update on the business and our strategic initiatives, as well as provide a brief review of the quarter. But first, I would like to quickly reflect on the previous year and what it means for the future of our Company. We were called into service by the shareholders last July with a mandate to transform the way that EQT operated while at the same time addressing legacy governors on the business that were preventing EQT from realizing the full potential of its world class assets. Today, I am proud to say that EQT stands firmly on stable ground and we are primed to take this Company to the next level as we unlock the full potential of our premier assets. We’ve leveraged our experience with these assets to fast track operational results, and we’ve leveraged technology and maximized the value of our human capital to retool EQT into a modern, digitally enabled organization with vision and purpose. This was accomplished not only by doing what we said we were going to do by hitting our cost targets, streamline the organization, implementing our digital work environment but also going above and beyond our promises. We have significantly improved EQT’s financial position by creating a clear path to maturity management and absolute debt reduction, enhancing our future cash margins and free cash flow through the renegotiation of our long-term gathering contracts coupled with substantial near-term fee relief, rebalancing our hedge portfolio to protect our business against a volatile 2020 commodity landscape while positioning for an improved forward curve, rationalizing our FT portfolio, which looks even more promising with the cancellation of ACP. All of these actions…

David Khani

Analyst

Thanks, Toby, and good morning, everyone. Before we get into the detailed quarterly results, I want to highlight the steps that have been taken during the quarter to strengthen our financial position and balance sheet. I'll start with our near-term debt maturities and net debt position, which we detailed on slide 16 through 19 in our investor presentation. As you remember, we ended the first quarter with approximately $630 million in debt maturing through 2021, pro forma for the convertible debt offering. During the second quarter we retired approximately $350 million in conjunction with the execution of our $125 million asset divestiture and the receipt of approximately $190 million or half of our tax refunds we anticipate receiving in 2020. At the end of the quarter, we've completely retired our 2021 term loan, which stood at $1 billion at the start of the year. Our remaining 2021 debt maturity sits at approximately $280 million, which we plan to retire at or before the end of 2020. Since the beginning of the year, we paid off or termed out $2.6 billion of $3.8 billion of maturities due from 2020 through 2022. EQT's net debt position has improved by approximately $400 million during the quarter, going from $5 billion to $4.6 billion, which was augmented by the fair value treatment associated with our convertible debt offering. With our expected free cash flow generation and the second half of our tax refund, we see our net debt decline to $4.3 billion, paying off another $300 million before year-end. The use of our remaining Equitrans stake at today's value nets us closer to $4.1 billion of net debt. Additionally, assuming 100% equity treatment of our convertible issue, net debt would be reduced by a further $300 million to $3.8 billion. One of the major…

Toby Rice

Analyst

Thanks, Dave. It is abundantly clear that shareholders desire a new approach in shale, one in which overall production growth is muted and efficiencies are amplified. Our approach is aligned with our shareholders and also aligned with all stakeholders who desire a better world, now and for future generations. While our near term accomplishments continue to secure our footing as the operator of choice, we look forward to further enhancing our position as the sustainable natural gas leader. As part of this, we will continue to strive to have best-in-class ESG metrics and transparency. Our revamped environmental, social and governance report for the calendar year 2019 is set for publication later this year, which will include more details on EQT’s long-term ESG strategy, as well as provide insights into our ESG metrics. Lastly, I'd like to give a shout out to our employees. For the last year, they've been relentless in transforming the way we work to deliver superior results. Your hard work and dedication is the force driving transformational value-creation at this company. And for that, I thank you and look forward to continuing on our mission together. With that. I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Arun Jayaram from JPMorgan Chase. Your line is open.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Good morning, Toby. I was wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more on the potential implications to EQT from the ACP cancellation. You have noted that multiple counterparties have expressed interest in the pipe. I was wondering if you could talk about perhaps the prospects for offload, the bulk of your transportation at par or even your premium, and perhaps discuss some potential timelines on this.

Toby Rice

Analyst

Sure. So, with ACP being cancelled, that was about 1.5 Bcf a day of capacity that was going down at the southeastern market, which is competing with MVP capacity that was going to deliver gas there. So, not having that project online makes MVP more desirable. I think, the customers that signed up for that project are still looking for that gas and MVP is going to be a good outlet for that. So, those are the parties that we're having conversations with. And as far as like the likelihood of being able to lay off capacity, it could be up to all of our capacity. I think one other things that we're looking at that’s going to frame up the size that we end up, laying off is really going to be getting a better grip on the just basis realizations down in that market now. So, that's obviously been a little bit of the dynamic situation when you take off 1.5 Bcf a day of supply coming into the area. I know Williams has announced a project to deliver I think up to 0.5 Bcf a day into that area. So, we're framing that up, and I think that's going to ultimately dictate the amount that we're willing to lay off. I think, as far as the impact to EQT, if you look at slide 20, where we show our FT portfolio, you look at the change in our net realization from '20 to '21, you're seeing about almost a dime of pricing realization difference in those years. I mean, that's largely due to the effect of MVP. So, I mean, that's sort of the price that we're looking at, if we can be successful in laying off our MVP capacity. Lastly, on timing, I think, it’s something that we're working on now. Just given the size of the catalyst for this to our Company, it's a priority for us. And we're working on this now and hopefully we'll have some updates through the end of the year.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

That’s helpful. Toby, I also wanted to follow up. You guys did hold a special shareholder meeting where you doubled the shares of authorized share count, pardon me, from 320 million to 640 million. I know it was ratified by I think 95% of your shareholders. But, we are getting some inquiries on the need to do a special vote here. Thoughts on M&A and just broadly could discuss that move, which I think was earlier last week?

Toby Rice

Analyst

Sure. So, EQT hasn’t authorized any shares since I think it was 2005. So, this just sort of allowed -- just gives us more flexibility. We don't have any uses for these shares right now. But, the landscape up here in Appalachia, there are -- it is a buyer's market, there are some opportunities on the horizon, but nothing specifically targeted for use of that equity.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Great. And could you just discuss your broader thoughts around M&A in Appalachia? I think, there's what, 20 management teams, you mentioned, mid-30s rigs. It does feel like a market that is ripe for further consolidation. I was wondering if you could maybe highlight your views.

Toby Rice

Analyst

Yes. I think that consolidation will be a part of the value creation story for our shareholders in Appalachia and I think across the industry, the E&P industry as a whole. That being said, what has EQT done to position ourselves to consolidate, it largely starts with having a great operating model that allows us to scale efficiently. I think, the operational results we put out sort of represent the fact that our operating model is sort of in a really good place right now. And so, I think that there are opportunities here, but just as a reminder, the status quo story for EQT is pretty compelling. We'll continue to be disciplined in our approach with any M&A opportunity that presents itself.

Arun Jayaram

Analyst

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Josh Silverstein with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Joshua Silverstein

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Just following up on the ACP discussion, could you talk about how a deal may be structured? Is there any cash that can come from a potential monetization of the stake, or would it most likely be related to margin improvement? And how would liabilities transfer from this as well?

David Khani

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Yes. Hi, this is Dave Khani. So, we're in the middle of discussions with a bunch of parties. So, I think we'll be very -- we'll just be very quiet on kind of the details. I’d just say, our goal would be to really sell it, so that there's no -- at least no out of pocket costs for us. And if we can structure where we actually can make money, we'll see if we can do that. But right now, there's a lots of discussion going on, and we should be very quiet while we’re in the middle of negotiations.

Joshua Silverstein

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Got it. And then, just a follow up -- quick follow-up to that. ACP was slated to be in service about a year later than an MVP. Would the shippers actually want this for 2021 or would they more likely want it for 2022?

David Khani

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Yes. I think, there's different parties want it for different time periods. And, but recognize, the need for gas is growing down in that southeast region over multi years. One entity is building -- there's a bunch of gas fired generation being built down there and so -- as well as some of the LDC needs as well. And so, their needs are for many, many years. So I think, that’s probably the biggest important thing.

Joshua Silverstein

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Got it. Thanks. And then, Toby, just on the 2021 outlook. Thanks for the flat year-over-year volumes there -- the comments there. Can this be done on a similar 90 to 100 wells or do you need to step up activity or kind of actually be a little bit lower?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Yes. So activity level is in 2020 around 1.1 million horizontal feet. The whole production flat, we're probably going to be maybe 5% to 8% lower footage in '21. So -- but it's going to be around 1 million horizontal feet.

Joshua Silverstein

Analyst · Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Thanks for that.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Welles Fitzpatrick with SunTrust. Your line is open.

Welles Fitzpatrick

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning.

Toby Rice

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Good morning.

Welles Fitzpatrick

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

So, on page 14, it looks like you guys are dropping from three to four horizontal rigs to two to three. Is that -- are you guys seeing that that's presumably via drilling efficiencies and you're drilling longer lateral, so you're getting more done per day per rig? Is that a fair way to frame that?

Toby Rice

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Yes. I mean, you look at what our horizontal efficiencies have done. I mean, we're talking about dropping our drilling times by 30%. So, dropping one horizontal rig is approximately 30%. So, you're seeing just parity with our operational efficiencies timing up with the resources that we need to execute our program. And then, similar story with the completion crews as well.

Welles Fitzpatrick

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Okay. And then, also the drop to -- was it 680 on per foot basis? I know we're -- we seem like we're long way from OFS prices going up. But do you have any break out on that as to how much of that is pricing improvement, and how much of that might be efficiency?

Toby Rice

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Yes. I'd say, just looking from this quarter to the past quarter, service pricing environment hasn't changed. So, I mean, what you're seeing now is purely sustainable operational efficiencies in the field. I think for us, the couple of things that as we ship from setting the bar, now it's locking and making sure that we can operate this at this level. In the future, operational efficiencies will continue to climb. What you're seeing is the average we put out. Obviously, we're exiting at higher efficiencies than what the average we report during the quarter. Our schedule is getting better. We're getting more and more combo development over time. And also, our lateral lengths are improving as well. So, these are the really three core parts of sustainability in your cost performance. And all of these things give us confidence that we'll be able to perform at these levels in the future. And then, as you mentioned, service cost pricing, yes, I think you look at the utilization rates that people have in the industry dropping 70% of rig activity and completion crews, certainly leaves a very low utilization rate and that's obviously going to be a force keeping service pricing low where they're at. But some of the other things we're doing on the service pricing side is when you think about operating efficiently, using less rigs to drill the same number of footage, same amount of footage, that is certainly helpful in being able to lock in these rigs and frac crews with longer term price contracts. There is another way to lock in the sustainability and -- or sorry, the pricing for sustainability. And we've done that with two of our frac crews right now. So, we feel pretty good about setting the table for sustainable cost performance.

Welles Fitzpatrick

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Okay. That makes sense. I mean, two really strong updates, fewer rigs, cheaper per foot. And I guess that would bring us to you all keeping the CapEx guide flat. Should we see these flowing through more in '21 or should we maybe be a little bit biased below that current guide?

Toby Rice

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Yes. Two things. One, the ability to drill more, and this year is really setting the table for '21. So, we are getting ahead of some activity here in the back half of this year that will set up '21 favorably. The other thing I would say is that we have not revised our well cost estimates in our model. And so, that hasn't floated the guidance. So that's something that we're working on now. And we'll update that with our '21 guidance that we put out.

Welles Fitzpatrick

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Okay. That's perfect. Thank you so much.

Toby Rice

Analyst · SunTrust. Your line is open.

Got it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Brian Singer with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Brian Singer

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

I wanted to actually follow up on just what -- the point that you were making with regards to the CapEx, and how that -- how the lower cost flows into CapEx. It seems like what you're saying is you're going to get a few more wells that are going to be drilled this year for the same capital budget. And I wondered if you could clarify what the implications are from an exit rate perspective or for 2021 maintenance capital to keep production flat at your exit rate for this year.

David Khani

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Brian, yes, this is David. It effectively means we're setting ourselves up for a little bit better CapEx number for next year. And I think we want to keep the equipment in -- running the way it is. It's running really well. And so, we are getting ourselves in a better shape. Our goal would not be to increase production. Our goal would be to just take this and effectively improve our 2021 CapEx guidance when we put it out. Does that help?

Brian Singer

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Got it. Thanks. And then, -- go ahead, sorry.

David Khani

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

No, I said, does that help?

Brian Singer

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Yes, it does. Thank you. And then, my follow-up is a little bit more on -- color on the decision to bring your shut-in production back on line and why to do that now at what seems to be similar prices as what was experienced in the second quarter, or was it that you expected that the second quarter could be potentially even worse than it was?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Yes. So, Brian, the goal for us was to really take the extra production and really move it out into future periods. I think, if you remember, we were running nicely ahead in the first quarter. And so, our goal was really to just take the excess production, keep our production relatively flat with 2019, and get the benefit of -- in future periods of shutting in production. So, we are very, very hedged. And so, even bringing it back, we're very well hedged and not impacted from the -- from bringing it back. Having said that though, you're right, the economics still look like shutting in production, could be worthwhile and that's something we'll look at and see if we decide we want to shut in more production. We could do that in -- sort of, call the late, either summer or in the fall.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Scott Hanold with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Scott Hanold

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Thanks. It looks like you guys had some pretty strong production performance this quarter, especially when taking a look at the number of wells put on line. Could you give a little bit of color on that? I know -- I think, David, you had mentioned that having some production curtailed reduced the line pressure. Was that the majority of it, or is there stuff organically helping on -- or improving on new wells coming on line?

David Khani

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

No. I mean, I would say, it's nice when your wells meet your type curve. And so, I mean that's happening, but that's no surprise to us. Yes. I mean, part of it was having lower line pressures, increase of the productivity of wells that are still flowing. And then, again, the 98% production uptime is something that was increased to what our plans were. But, I think, now that we're seeing consistent performance of that level from our field teams have been doing a really great job. I think, we'd probably move our expectations a little bit higher.

Scott Hanold

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

And then, just as a follow-up to maybe Brian's line of questioning on curtailments. Can you just give us a sense? You talked about value over volume, and with respect to where prices are. I mean, how willing are you guys to let production decline? I mean, what is it going to take to say look, it's not even -- it doesn't make sense right now to even keep production flat.

Toby Rice

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Yes. Well, I think, you're seeing that across the industry right now. Just look at the rig counts that are drilling for gas right now in the two premier gas basins. I mean, they're down significantly. So, while we're fortunate enough to have large scale combo development executed in really core geology, that gives us confidence that our -- that our returns are there to continue to develop the whole production flat. That's not the case for a lot of operators across the country, and that's in -- production is going to decline. And we think the set up is going to start showing up from this reduced activity levels sort of towards the back half of this year. And so that -- I mean, you are absolutely right. And I think the industry as a whole is responding to that.

Scott Hanold

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Okay. So, if I can interpret that -- and correct me if I'm wrong, I mean, effectively, you guys just want to sort of maintain this production base in hopes for 2021 looks pretty strong versus doing anything today that may impact future years. Is that a fair context?

Toby Rice

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Yes. That's correct.

David Khani

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

But again, we might shut in again. We’ll that leave that option open for us if we want to do some more. And then, we'll update you if we do.

Scott Hanold

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Nitin Kumar with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Nitin Kumar

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Hi. Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. Maybe to start off on the D&C cost side, $680 per foot, that's well ahead of the target that you had established a year ago. I guess, how sustainable are these costs here? I mean, I guess, what I'm trying to get at is, are these systematic improvements? And if so, how much more room to go, or because as you mentioned earlier, it’s an underutilized capacity out there, are you getting some discounts as well that are baked in there?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Yes. I mean, I think, largely the cost improvements we've seen have been sustainable operational efficiencies schedule, longer laterals, more combo development and a consistent well design that we have put in place. So, we feel pretty good about it. I mean, one thing that's also worth highlighting, in the first and second quarter of this year, as we broke out some new electric frac fleets, one of these fleets was new and took us a few months of just breaking them in. So, I mean, the efficiencies that we saw in the field on that crew were -- I mean, that crew was our worst performer, when we started back in January. Now, that crew is our best performer. And that's a testament to the quality engineers we have here. And our completions team have been able to take advantage of this new technology and develop it to meeting the efficiency. So, I mean this is one of those things we're looking at. We talk about the averages of what we report and we're obviously exiting at higher rates. That's sort of the dynamic that's at play on the completions front, which is the biggest part of our spend. Over 60% of our spend is on completion. So, I feel pretty good about where that's at. And that's also the area of our business where we have the most control over service cost inflation, because we've got the most amount of procurement setup in place for that segment of our business.

Nitin Kumar

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Great. And then, maybe a different tack on some of the earlier questioning around M&A. Asset sales were a part of one of the levers you had indicated earlier as a means of deleveraging. You made the comment it's a buyer's market. So, is the urgency or the need for asset sales reduced now or is that still something that you're working on?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Yes. I mean, we have a very big operating footprint. We have what we consider strategic assets, our wells and leasehold that's within our core operating footprint. We're going to develop core combo development in core geology. We've got other assets that don't fall in within that core operating footprint that we would call those non-strategic. And I think that a rise in commodity price when that thesis plays out is going to sort of close that bid/ask spread between buyers and EQT as a seller for those type of assets. So, we keep those processes open.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Holly Stewart with Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

Holly Stewart

Analyst · Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

Good morning. Maybe just a quick follow-up on the well cost. I know, we're starting to beat the dead horse here. But, Toby, it sounded like you are going to save sort of that new well cost target for 2021. Is that fair?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

That's correct.

Holly Stewart

Analyst · Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

Okay. And then maybe taking that a step further, just for 3Q and thinking about CapEx for 3Q and 4Q, can we just sort of talk about the cadence there?

David Khani

Analyst · Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

Yes. Hi. This is Dave. I would say, think about the second half, very similar to the first half on average. So, third quarter and fourth quarter probably not much meaningfully different. So, just think about the average of the first half and the second half, which was I think around $280 million per quarter.

Holly Stewart

Analyst · Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

Okay, great. And then, Dave, maybe one final one. You mentioned you may monetize E-Train in 2021. Is that just suggesting that you might push it from this year to next year?

David Khani

Analyst · Scotia Howard Weil. Your line is open.

Yes. We have a value in our head of what we want to sell it for. We think it's very much undervalued, and it's improved clearly off the bottom. And so, because we have our tax refund coming in to pay -- help us pay off and free cash flow pay off the 2021 notes, which are due in November, it kind of leaves the E-Train stake really for '22 retirement. And so, as you know, E-Train has about a 6% yield, our 2022 notes pay about a 3% interest rate. And so, for us to want to monetize E-Train, we want to make sure we get it at the right value. And so, we're not going to have to force it in. And so, if we get it to our value, we'll sell it. As we said before, we're not long-term holders. We just don't necessarily need to be in arbitrary year-end number -- time period to actually sell it. So again, if it gets to our target, we'll sell it. If it doesn't, we can be a little more patient.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jeffrey Campbell with Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Jeffrey Campbell

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Good morning and congratulations on the strong results. There's a lot of M&A talk in the air, but a corporate acquisition seems contrary to EQT's commitments to reduce debt. I was just wondering, are there any acreage packages that are potentially coming to the market? And would this be a more likely route for EQT, if and when you chose to make a transaction?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Yes. I would say -- I mean, when we look at any type of consolidation opportunities, I think the things that we're going to be looking for are acquisition that would be deleveraging to our business and also allow us to grow our free cash flow per share. So, I mean that's -- those are sort of two boxes that we're looking to check. Yes, there are assets out there on the market that would allow us to check those boxes. Like I said, you got to get through the value discussion with any willing seller. And to that end, we'll be disciplined in making sure that we can deliver on those two metrics for our shareholders.

Jeffrey Campbell

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

And just to kind of ask at a little bit higher level, MVP notwithstanding, after the ACP cancellation, what's your view on the future pipeline development out of Appalachia going forward? On one hand, it sounds like there is going to be some demand for those MVP volumes after the ACP cancellation. But, the cancellation itself is kind of a grim reminder there’s been talk to get these permitted and built. So, just interested in your thoughts there.

Toby Rice

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Yes. I mean I think people are making the argument that MVP is the last major pipeline that comes out of the basin, I think is pretty credible. And I think, what you will see and I think one of the things why we believe that E-Train is undervalued is that there is going to be a tremendous amount of sort of downstream pipeline opportunities that E-Train will have now, because they've got that pipe coming out of Appalachia, filled with sustainably produced natural gas coming from EQT. Yes. It is disheartening to see just the pipe -- the pressure that pipelines have to get put in service. It is the most -- it is the safest, most environmentally friendly way of transporting energy that people need. And I think the other issue that came out pulling the apple was surprising. And it's even for pipelines that are in service to have that risk is concerning for us. So, I think for us at EQT it's -- and other operators and other members of industry, it's really important for us to continue to be vocal about the great service that we provide and how important energy is to the fuel mix. I think, all the conversation about ESG is great, because it now allows us to start telling our stories. And the industry has done really amazing things. We just haven't really talked about them. So, I think over this next year, you're going to see EQT talking about a lot of great things that we're doing, as well as other players in the energy mix.

Jeffrey Campbell

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Yes. I agree with that last point. And we'll look forward to hearing more about that. Thank you.

Toby Rice

Analyst · Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Great. Got it.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from David Deckelbaum with Cowen. Your line is open.

David Deckelbaum

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

I just wanted to circle up on couple of other things. Just on the curtailments, this was a significant curtailment in the second quarter in response to price. You talked about how obviously today the headline price doesn't necessarily justify bringing those volumes back, and there is obviously a trade-off. If we were in a scenario in the future where you were more underlevered, would we expect to see a longer period of curtailment? And I guess, as you think about the seasonality and maximizing your business around cash flow, is this something that we should expect going forward where you would just see lower periods of shut-in production or higher shut-ins during shoulder seasons?

David Khani

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

Yes. So, this is Dave. One, we really wanted to carve out the extra production as -- and really push that into the future period. And so, that was really impetus. And there was an arb, call anywhere from $0.50 to $1.30 when we did it. And so, again, the arb right now is probably about $1 or so. So, we could do more of this, if we want to. We have constraints of MVCs we need to think through as part of this. And we've all seen that we have goals to pay down a fair amount of debt. So, we just want to think through that as well. But, yes, as far as, is this something we'll want to do in the future? Probably. We'll continue to do this when it makes economic sense to do it. And remember, we're very hedged. We're over 90% hedged in this time period. So, at times we’ll have to -- if we want to do more of this stuff, we might have to unwind hedges, grab some value to shut in, and then we want to maybe add hedges in the future periods. So, there's some things we need to do to maneuver around to really take advantage of that arb.

Toby Rice

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

Yes. I mean, I would just summarize and say, we're going to see the pricing volatility every year in the shoulder seasons. So, these opportunities are going to present themselves. And I think as we deleverage our business, that gives us more flexibility to be strategic and executing these shut-ins and incorporating the ability to do this into our base operating model that we're working on.

David Deckelbaum

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

I appreciate that. How do you -- and looking back, how do you view your shut-ins relative to the rest of the industry or your peers in Appalachia? And were you surprised at the rest of the everyone else's activity?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

Well, I think you're seeing other peers -- I mean our shut-in while -- 1.4 Bcf a day of gross gas is pretty large, represents around 25% of our production base. I think, look at some of our other peers. I mean, the shut-ins they're talking about are around 25% as well. So, I think that a lot of other operators are seeing the same thing we're seeing and making a statement that this product is undervalued at these prices. And there is conviction that prices will be higher in the future. And so, you're seeing operator shut-in, and what I think is pretty meaningful.

David Deckelbaum

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

I appreciate that. And then, just a last one for me. There's been a lot of conjecture around M&A. I guess, so you talked about screening for things that offer deleveraging capabilities and clearly cash flow benefits. When you look at your data set internally, are there a lot of assets that are out there that you feel you could offer a significant operational uplift on, or do you see it more as benefits of scale on that financial arbitrage?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Cowen. Your line is open.

I think it's across all fronts. I mean, this organization could take up -- could carry more operations without having to add any headcount. So, I mean, G&A savings right out the gate. There are some acreage overlaps that would be -- that would allow us to drill -- increase the confidence in drilling longer laterals in greater combos, and then also being able to execute development at $680 a foot versus higher cost is certainly a benefit. And I think the last thing you look at is, which is unique to EQT is, we've set the table up with our gathering agreements to lower our gathering rates if we can steer more volumes onto our E-Train system. So, that's another dynamic at play that we'll look forward to leveraging if that opportunity comes into play.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Michael Hall with Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

Michael Hall

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

Thanks. Good morning. I appreciate the time. I guess, I wanted to follow up quickly on the ACP and MVP dynamic. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe the tariff on the MVP side is around $0.77. Is your expectation that in offloading those contracts, you would offload the full tariff, or do you think you'd have to offer some sort of discount?

Toby Rice

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

No. It would be our goal to offload it at cost.

Michael Hall

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

Okay. Clear enough. I appreciate that. And I guess -- go ahead. Sorry.

Toby Rice

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

I was just going to say, customers on the ACP line, they were signing up for over $1.50 of fees. And so -- I mean, these costs would have been passed through to their customers. I mean these utilities. So, to be able to have the opportunity to pass through $0.77 versus $1.50 is ultimately better for the consumers as well, so. I mean that's one of the things that's underpinning, while we believe we can get this done at cost.

Michael Hall

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

Okay, yes. Now that makes sense. I appreciate it. And then, I guess on the macro front, you all seem quite confident in the 2021 outlook that you have. I guess, I'm just curious, in the context of the LNG market, in particular, we've obviously seen a lot of cargo cancellations here recently. What sort of confidence do you have on the LNG market in 2021? What sort of broader economic recovery is underlying that confidence? And I guess, what sort of -- just any color you can provide on that would be helpful.

Toby Rice

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

Sure. I mean, we are not -- I think, it's important, we're not surprised to see LNG levels in this 3.5 Bcf to 4 Bcf a day of demand right now. This is something that is -- that we have taken into account with our pricing model. That being said, we do feel like LNG will be restored to that 7, Bcf, 8 Bcf a day range sort of toward the end of this year. Again, that is -- it is dependent on COVID. But, our pricing view does not need to have LNG at 10 Bcf a day running at full capacity. It's some that that's more conservative and allows for this lower period of demand disruption on LNG for the next few months as well.

David Khani

Analyst · Heikkinen Energy. Your line is open.

Yes. And there is a few things, if you watch. Right now, you are watching global gas supply didn't pull back in various different regions, besides the U.S. You're watching demand picking back up again. And then, really the third, which is a key piece too is that weather in the Northern Hemisphere was very warm last year. So, you want to base everything on normal weather and between supply, recovery from COVID and weather gives us confidence that gas exports out of the U.S. will pick back up. And we're not -- our model isn’t -- sat at 9.5 or 10 Bs. Our model is really sitting, as Toby mentioned,7 to 8-ish.

Operator

Operator

Your last question comes from Kashy Harrison with Simmons Energy. Your line is open.

Kashy Harrison

Analyst

Good morning. And thank you for taking my questions. And so, there is not a lot of discussion on the ACP cancellation, on that takeaway being -- on the remaining takeaway on MVP being more valuable. And right now, correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like takeaway out of Appalachia in general is probably in the -- maybe in the high 30s, 37ish versus current production of 33. And so, how do you balance the near-term benefits of offloading all that FT relative to the longer term risk of widening in-basin basis in the future should commodity prices increase in the future and producers start growing again? How do you think about that, the risk of in-basin, basis blowouts?

Toby Rice

Analyst

Yes. That's a great question. I mean, I think it highlights to one of the points that we make about our FT. It is a hedge. Our FT is a hedge against local basis blowing out. But, the dynamics that are set up right now is Appalachia is producing around 32 Bcf a day. We've got about call it 35 Bcf a day of local takeaway -- of takeaway and local demand. So, there is a 3 Bcf a day gap between what we are producing and what we are able to take away. Adding MVP that takes -- that takes you up to call it 37 Bcf a day. So, you've got a pretty big gap between capacity and supply in the basin. I think, you couple that with the fact that the basin is going to struggle to grow. I mean, you've got all operators saying that they're hanging in a maintenance mode. We're also seeing activity levels today, which suggest that this basin is going to decline. All of that is going to widen the gap of takeaway. And then, I think, the last point you look at is just sustaining 32 Bcf a day. Just looking at the amount of core inventory that's remaining to sustain that I think is also going to be a headwind for a lot of peers. And again, this comes back to EQT having a deep inventory of core combo-ready projects to develop. Won't be much of our issue, but I think another thing that's going to be a headwind for the basin to keep up.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions queued up at this time. I turn the call back over to Toby Rice, President and CEO, for closing remarks.

Toby Rice

Analyst

Thank you. A lot of progress made in the past year. And I think this sort of puts a pin in us looking backwards and comparing to campaign promises. And now, I think, everything going forward, I'm excited about looking forward to the future and continue to build on our momentum. And, thank you for your time and your support.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.