Makko DeFilippo
Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Yes. Thank you. So let's start with Caraiba and C1. Great question. Thanks for raising it. So C1 guidance for the year, I would say, that if you look back at history, partly because of the -- of the last eight years, the Brazilian reais, as you quite well know, has consistently depreciated against the U.S. dollar. We've been consistently, I'd say, fairly conservative with FX when we put together our guidance for the year. Obviously, with the BRL on the path that it is on now, we expect that to benefit our C1 cash cost relative to our guidance range, which was done in a lower BRL, but given the volatility in diesel prices and kind of where we see our business, we felt comfortable with the range we put forward and certainly, the FX. The macro environment is highly uncertain right now, and we are pretty thoughtful about putting our C1 cash cost guidance together for both assets. But I would say the biggest drivers are going to be FX, as you mentioned, being substantially more conservative than spot pricing on the BRL. We're also mining our contribution from the deeper part of the mines increased year-on-year. So that's driving a bit of additional costs in our business. And then grades as well. So a bit lower grades across the portfolio. A combination of factors there, Surubim and Vermelhos, obviously being top of mind on driving a bit lower consolidated grade. And that all has an impact on our operating margins at Caraiba. Again, I think we've been pretty thoughtful about putting the range there and some of the levers that we have in our portfolio that we're working on. I think I've talked last couple of years about the full potential program that we initiated across the company. We've continued to work on that. And I expect to continue to see cost reductions, particularly coming out of this reorganization that we did here in the first quarter. So stay tuned. We're pretty thoughtful about our guidance range there at Caraiba. On Xavantina all-in sustained costs. A couple of things there. It's really just -- it's a relatively small operation, so high grade, small tonnage. And when you get fluctuations in grade or volume because of the -- just because of the denominator being small, it tends to magnify the impact on all-in sustaining costs in C1. And those are the main drivers there. So I'd say it's volume related, nothing intrinsic to the asset. When you look ahead to our 2025 guidance, as I mentioned, the biggest step-up in all-in sustaining costs year-on-year is all the investments that we're making in asset integrity, mine improvement, and that's fully reflected in our guidance and in our all-in sustaining cost.