Mark Casale
Analyst · Rick Shane with JPMorgan
Yes. I mean I wouldn't -- I don't know if you would expect it to rise. Again, we -- the provision is at 100, Rick, just so you know. The embedded HPA in the book is still kind of 75-ish. So I mean, in terms of mark-to-market LTV. So some of it is just timing, right? If somebody from the later vintages kind of call it, '23 or '24 goes into default, there's going to be a higher provision or if they go into claim, we're going to pay a higher claim there because they have less embedded value. But taking a step back just at the portfolio level, we're not going to get too fussed about it, Rick. I mean, again, you're talking about a relatively low losses. And remember, just -- and we point this out every quarter or 2, just what the real risk is in our business, right? Take from my seat, Rick, we own that first loss position, right? So call it 2 to 3 claims out of 100. We hedge out from above that kind of into that 6, 7 range, and we reattach above that. That's the risk in the business, right? We are a specialty insurance type business, almost like a cat where our catastrophe is a severe macroeconomic recession. And that's when we hold capital when we think about PMIERs, we think about the different stress tests that we run, whether it's Moody's Constant severity S4, the GFC, that's when we come in and think about it week-to-week or month-to-month. That's -- we're focused really on making sure we're fine there, and we clearly are given the amount of capital that we're using to repurchase share. So getting back to this, again, we clearly look at it. I think we're conservative in how we provision just from a severity standpoint because I think that's -- the severity is an actuarial -- I mean, the provisions is an actuarial-based model. So we don't really mess with it quarter-to-quarter, even year-to-year that much. So again, I'm just trying to -- from a big picture standpoint, sure, you're going to try to point out trends. And Terry pointed out the trends around the new notices, those are all good. That's like you guys have to do that for your models. But I think taken like a step back, the biggest metric for the quarter, Rick, is we produced $854 million of cash over the last 12 months. So again, not trying to get too high level, but I mean, I think it's important to kind of put context around some of these numbers.