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Q3 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 10, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Energy Transfer's Third Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Tom Long. Thank you. You may begin.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Energy Transfer third quarter 2016 earnings call. And thank you for joining us today. I will begin today with an overview of our recently announced acquisition of certain interest in PennTex. Then I'll turn our focus to discussions of Energy Transfer Partners third quarter results, followed by a growth project update, a financing and liquidity update, and lastly, a distribution discussion. I'm also joined today by Kelcy Warren, Mackie McCrea, Matt Ramsey, John McReynolds, and other members of our senior management team who are here to help answer your questions after our prepared remarks. As a reminder, we will be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These are based on our beliefs as well as certain assumptions and information currently available to us. I'll also refer to adjusted EBITDA and distributable cash flow or DCF, both of which are non-GAAP financial measures. You'll find a reconciliation of our non-GAAP measures on our website. Starting with our most recent announcement on November 1, ETP closed on its acquisition of certain interest in PennTex Midstream Partners, LP from various parties for total consideration of approximately $640 million in cash and ETP common units. ETP now owns 100% of the general partner of PennTex, together with all of its incentive distribution rights as well as 6.3 million common units and all 20 million subordinated units of PennTex, representing approximately 65% of the total limited partner interest in PennTex. The acquisition consideration paid by ETP was 50% ETP common units issued directly to sellers and 50% cash. The cash portion of the purchase price was funded by a combination of proceeds from common units recently issued under ETP's ATM program and borrowings under…

Operator

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Jeremy B. Tonet - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Good morning.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Good morning.

Jeremy B. Tonet - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Post the election, there seems to be the potential for a significant policy shift with regards to NG infrastructure development in the U.S. While it's early days, could you provide any thoughts on the impact for ETP, the industry and DAPL? Anything you can share.

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Well, this is Kelcy. It's only going to get better. I mean, for us to preach that we support infrastructure development and then yet do everything we can to block it, that doesn't feel very good to me. But I think that's going to change.

Jeremy B. Tonet - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Got you. Thanks. And then just want to touch on volumes across the systems. We saw some softness in East Texas and in Haynesville and I'm just wondering if any of the property changes around there is part of the people selling stuff. If that could be helpful for volumes for you guys? And also in the Permian after Orla, do you see room for a further expansion there? Is that – could you talk to the competitive dynamics there?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

Hey, you bet. This is Mackie. I guess I'll kind of cover the country quickly. In north Louisiana, as Tom mentioned, we're very excited about that acquisition. We think that's some of the best rock as well as Range and others in the country and we are excited about what we believe will happen in 2017 and beyond on volume growth there. In West Texas, I think everybody understands how prolific all of those horizons are. It will remain a big focus for our midstream group and we do, likewise to north Louisiana, anticipate significant volume growth both on the natural gas side and also on the oil side. We do see weakness and continue to see weakness in the Mid-Continent and just kind of flat volumes, not really a big declines, but certainly not a lot of growth other than Central Oklahoma, where we do believe there will be growth and fairly significant growth. And then in the northeast, the issues are pricing for our Pennsylvania assets and then, Eastern Ohio, it's also pricing and bottle necks. So, once Rover comes online in the Ohio and once Atlantic Sunrise and PennEast come online in Pennsylvania, it's going to open things up and our volumes will increase fairly dramatically. But in the meantime, it's just tough to get gas out when there isn't infrastructure completed. And then I guess, lastly, in South Texas, we are seeing slight declines. However, we're battling to keep volumes on and also to pull volumes from others. And so, we remain optimistic about keeping low volumes relatively flat. And as process return, we expect volumes to grow there too.

Jeremy B. Tonet - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question

That's helpful. That's it for me. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question.

Shneur Z. Gershuni - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question

Hi. Good morning, guys. A couple of questions. One, I was wondering if we can start with cost of capital. You recently completed the PennTex acquisition with some equity. And obviously, it looks like a very promising opportunity. But at the same time, your cost of capital quarter kind of dilutes some of the positive impact with respect to that. Have you been looking at more closely? I know that you sort of discussed it on your second quarter call, it's something down the road. But, have you started to look at potentially a rollup of ETP and ETE or IDR buy-ins and so forth? On our math, it's probably about $600 million in cash flow savings with the cost of equity reset. And when you look at kind of the responses from investors with respect to some of the comments from some of your peers with respect to that, it seems to have been rewarded in the marketplace. Just wondering if you can sort of comment about your thoughts about cost of capital going forward?

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question

Yeah. Shneur, this is Kelcy. Absolutely. We did mention that in the last quarter. It's something that we are giving a great deal of attention towards. It's something we can't hide from. It's real. And we will address it in a matter that, we believe, is best for our unitholders at the appropriate time. So, I'm sorry. That sounds like a non answer but, I think, you can read between the lines there a little bit. This is heavy on our mind these days and we're looking at options.

Shneur Z. Gershuni - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question

Okay, no. Fair enough. Secondly, with respect to DAPL, there was some noise out this week with respect to the credit facility there. I was wondering if you can talk about – I think when you first filed it, it was officially stated as non-recourse. Are there conditions that turn it into recourse at some point in time? And there sort of seems to be some ambiguity in sort of the commentary there. But it seems that as long as you have all the permits in place, then you've satisfied the conditions. Does the fact that you're doing a voluntary pause mean that you haven't completed the permit condition or you've received the permit and the pause is effectively your choice and it's still there for you, but you still satisfy the conditions to be able to pull everything?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Yeah. Shneur, this is Tom Long. Let me just start with the way this was set up. It was set up, of course, to $2.5 billion financing. I think, as I previously mentioned, there was $1.1 billion that we had access to, which we have drawn. With the other $1.4 billion, that is condition upon receiving the final easement. I won't call it permit, I'll just call it easement. So, I think that's the way you should look at it. As far as the $1.1 billion, yes, I guess, the partners in this agreement did put up a guarantee on that first $1.1 billion until that easement is obtained. But there's really no other restrictions to that. It's pretty clean.

Shneur Z. Gershuni - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question

Okay. And finally an operational question and it really goes back to PennTex. This looks like a very exciting transaction, especially when I sort of look at a map and I look at some of the other assets that you've acquired, I think it was from DCP, earlier this year. Is there kind of a significant operating leverage opportunity by connecting some of these assets. Is there a CapEx avoidance by having them together and so forth? I was wondering if you can sort of talk to the strategic nature of how this fits into the Energy Transfer fold?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question

Shneur, your description of very exciting says it perfectly. We're unbelievably well positioned to maximize on any opportunities there, from the wellhead all the way to gathering, processing, intrastate, interstate and even have liquid capacity all the way to deliver the barrels to Mont Belvieu. So we couldn't be more excited. We also had the benefit of – we have capacity now that we can move between these facilities, between our facilities, the DCP, newly acquired and now PennTex, to optimize and to run north Louisiana as efficiently as possible and as profitably as possible, both for ETP and for PennTex. So, there certainly are significant savings right off the bat, off the top and then we will run these as efficient as possible and it will give us time to also build additional processing capacity when that becomes necessary in the near future.

Shneur Z. Gershuni - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · Shneur Gershuni with UBS. Please state your question

Great. Thank you very much. Really appreciate the color, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question.

Heejung Ryoo - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Good morning. A couple of questions. A follow-up on the comment on the easement. So, just to be clear, once you have the easement that allows you to drill below the lake, and also that easement allows you to use the term loan above that $1.1 billion threshold, and then, lastly it satisfies the closing condition for the stake sale. Is that the right way to think about it?

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Yeah. Helen, this is Matt Ramsey. That's correct. With regard to the final easement, there is the Corps of Engineers, the federal government owns a buffer of about 500 feet, it's actually 1,090 feet I think is the actual distance. But it's 500 feet on each side of the lake, and the only thing lacking there is the easement from the Corps of Engineers, which is what is being held up. We already have the permits from the State of North Dakota, which owns the river bottoms, which permits us to drill beneath the lake. So, those are already in place. So, the only thing holding us up here is the easement from the Corps, and as soon as we have that, then, we're able to set up our hydraulic drilling tool and drill under the lake at that point in time. And I'll turn it back to Tom if that satisfies you and let him answer the question with regard to the financing.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Yeah. And Helen, that's exactly right what you said. In other words, as soon as the easement is – as soon as we receive the easement, the other $1.4 billion becomes available to us to draw, as well as the guarantee is lifted off the $1.1 billion. So...

Heejung Ryoo - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

And then it also satisfies the closing condition for the stake sale?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Yes.

Heejung Ryoo - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Yes. Okay. Great. Thank you. And then just the comment around the West Texas, so there was a basis widening in Texas. And is that something you see sustainable? I've heard that there were a certain pipe outage that led to a blowout of the basis soon after Q3 closed. But, currently do you see a widened basis sustainable? And once the Comanche Trail project starts and send gas to Mexico, how would that affect the basis going forward?

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Helen, this is Matthew again. It's impossible to predict where the basis is going. However, there's not a company in the industry that's better situated to take advantage of that basis and to benefit from it. It isn't just some outages. There's also a lot of other things going on at different times of the year. There is stronger demand at Katy and we're going to see that more and more. And then to your point, there's also going to be different times of the year when there's going to be tremendous draw out of Waha. So, we do believe that the basis will continue to widen, but we also believe it will seasonally flip, and it will be just as wide or wider going the other way. So, we're pretty excited about how well positioned we are and the amount of capacity we have to move gas across the state of Texas in both directions.

Heejung Ryoo - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Okay. Great. And then lastly, the $1.9 billion of organic CapEx next year, does that include – does that assume the Delaware, the second – the next Delaware plant coming online during next year and also the Lone Star crude pipeline, is that also fully in that number for next year in service?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Helen, the first one was the second. The second is not. So, that's what's included in the $1.9 billion.

Heejung Ryoo - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Okay. So, Lone Star crude, it's not fully included in $1.9 billion, correct?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

No – that's correct. It's not included.

Heejung Ryoo - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Helen Ryoo with Barclays Capital. Please state your question

Got it. All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question.

Brian Zarahn - Mizuho Securities USA, Inc.

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

Good morning. On DAPL, can you give us a little more color on when you expect a decision on the easement to take place? And any update on the volume commitments on the line?

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

Brian, this is Matt Ramsey. We expect a decision out of the agencies at any time now. They wrote us a letter, as you all fully see on September 9. They told us that and said in the letter that they would expeditiously get through this process. It's now been probably 65, 70 days that we've been in this process. They're not requiring any additional information out of us. We're in constant communication with them, and we feel like the decision is imminent but we're waiting as anxiously as you are. With regard to volumes, Mackie, you want to talk about volumes on that?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

Sure. Well, Lee Hanse and his group continue to chase volumes. Of course, with the uncertainty right now, a little bit on the timing, that may have slowed things down a little bit. But we are confident that as the project is completed, that we will contract up to complete capacity of 570,000 barrels a day. So, I don't know if you want to add anything.

Lee Hanse - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

Yeah. No change as far as the volume is concerned. It is all T&D or demand charge volume, and it is subscribed over and above the 450,000 barrels a day that we've disclosed, but we continue to pursue incremental volume.

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

That was Lee Hanse.

Brian Zarahn - Mizuho Securities USA, Inc.

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

And then shifting over to Rover. It seems like things are still on track. But can you give maybe your view on the Dawn Hub and the competition there, and does that impact Rover at all?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

Well, this is Mackie again. As you said, there are no changes. We do expect to have Rover flowing by July of next year, the first phase and second phase by November. We don't really – we're not buying and we don't own the capacity or the molecules at Dawn. So, we don't watch that real closely on what the impact as far as from the Canadian activities. That's more of a kind of a concern or, I guess, an issue with our shippers. But we are excited to be able to have the opportunity to offer not only deliveries to Dawn, but also to Vector which can go West Chicago or into our trunk line system which can go either way, North Michigan or South to the Gulf Coast. So, we do have the capability of a lot of optionality for our shippers. But the demand charge from our shippers, wherever they've taken it now, whether it's to Dawn or South, those were set for 10- year, 15-year contracts and pricing at the end of those were more kind of, I guess, concerns for our customers.

Brian Zarahn - Mizuho Securities USA, Inc.

Analyst · Brian Zarahn with Mizuho Securities. Please state your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question.

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Hey, guys.

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Good morning.

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

And on the topic of Rover this morning, it sounds like we are going to have the final certificate shortly. So, good update there. But can you also talk about how you feel about shippers and particularly their ability to meet commitment maybe focusing on the SUN and any color you guys have there?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

You bet. That's kind of been a topic around Rover now for some time and we were very pleased to see what came out just a little while ago from Ascent. John Raymond has run a great organization there and he had kind of given us an indication that some good things were happening and they were about to kind of restructure their balance sheet and sure enough they came out with an incredible press release today about a huge equity raise. So, they've kind of repositioned themselves from a financial capability of drilling back and to a large degree. It's very clear that our acreage and the rocks and reserves were there to produce the volumes that they anticipate. They just need the financing and now they've shored that up. So, very exciting about their press release today.

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Perfect. Thanks for mentioning that one. And can we also talk about, follow-up in terms of timing on the agencies or any other one off, sign offs that I need?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

On Rover?

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Yeah. I'm sticking on Rover today.

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

I mean once we receive our FERC certificate, we'll proceed with the construction of the projects. There also are some state permits that we're still working on, but we expect to have those anytime also. So, we...

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

So, it sounds like construction timeframe really achievable. How I just put those two things you just told me together?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Yes. We haven't changed one thing. We're very optimistic that we'll start the significant portion of our construction in February or March, and we'll be flowing gas by July of 2017 through Defiance.

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Perfect. And then last one from me. Tom, I know you alluded to this earlier in one of the question, but on the new calendar year 2017 guidance of growth CapEx of $1.9 billion, can you just give me the breakdowns in terms of the major bucket that it goes towards?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Yeah. You bet. Let me look. Kristina, I'm not sure if I have that in my fingertips here right now, again. Let me glance here real quick. Hang on one second. Clearly, the majority of it is in Midstream like what we've – kind of like what we've been announcing as far as a lot of the growth areas. You're probably – when you look at it, you're probably a little over $1 billion just in the Midstream alone of it. $1 billion, $1.1 billion, to a lesser extent the liquids, the crude oil, you're probably yet another, let's say, $200 millionish or so. Interstate, you're probably, little less than $500 million, let's call it, $475 million or so. And as far as the rest of it, it's just kind of split between Intrastate and other. So, kind of rounded up. But I'd say, that's the way it's kind of rolling off.

Kristina Kazarian - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Perfect. Thanks, guys, and congrats again on the Ascent announcement as well.

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Kristina Kazarian with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question

Thank you.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Blum with Wells Fargo Securities. Please state your question.

Michael Blum - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Michael Blum with Wells Fargo Securities. Please state your question

Hey. Good morning, everyone. Two from me. One more on Rover. It sounds like you're going to get the FERC certificate soon, but just wondering when is the latest that you can get the FERC certificate and still stay on your time line there or in service?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Michael Blum with Wells Fargo Securities. Please state your question

I don't know if I have an exact answer to that question, Michael, because we're so optimistic we're going to have – it doesn't concern us, but we certainly would be – it'd be very concerning if we didn't have it by sometime in the middle of the first quarter of next year.

Michael Blum - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Michael Blum with Wells Fargo Securities. Please state your question

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then second question just on this PennTex deal. Can you just talk maybe on a high level what was your strategic rationale for doing this deal? And how do you see this playing out in the future?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Michael Blum with Wells Fargo Securities. Please state your question

Well, as we mentioned, the strategic rationale is to create as much possible value for our unit-holders as we can, and those assets fit perfectly in kind of what we already own. We already own a large 42-inch intrastate pipeline through that area. We already owned miles and miles of gathering numerous plants. We've just acquired DCP. So, the fit from an operational perspective, the fit from the ability to provide services to all the drilling in that area better than any of our competitors and the ability to provide, as I mentioned earlier, from the wellhead all the way to the burner tip, all the way to the tailgate of a fractionator, and even exporting the product if that's what the customer desires. In addition to that, as we mentioned earlier, there are significant savings both from a G&A perspective and also from operations perspective. And lastly, as Matt is leaning on my shoulder here, and importantly is it comes with a significant acreage dedication for – as we mentioned earlier, from the best rock in the country, there's hundreds of thousands of acreage came with that acquisition that's dedicated through at least 2030. So, it's a very exciting acquisition and we couldn't be more pleased to have closed on it and move forward on growing it.

Michael Blum - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Michael Blum with Wells Fargo Securities. Please state your question

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Blossman with Tudor, Pickering, Holt. Please state your question. Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Good morning, everyone.

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brandon Blossman with Tudor, Pickering, Holt

Good morning. Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: I hate to do this, but it circled back in Rover real quick. The project financing, should we kind of think about that in terms of looking a lot like the DAPL project financing or will it be a slightly different animal?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

It will be a slightly different animal. I think you can see us more going into the institutional market versus bank market for this one or the current plans. So, in other words, more in the Term Loan B market versus A market. Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Okay. That sounds like a positive. What factors would drive you from Loan B versus bank market?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

What would drive us toward a Term Loan B you're saying? Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Yeah, what's different about Rover versus DAPL that has you thinking in a different direction?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Well, I think as we've kind of talked to our financial advisors and we look at the market where we think we can get the good pricing to try to go into the bank market just kind of based upon this pipe, shippers, et cetera, we felt like that the institutional market is the best where we can get probably the largest amount and get the longest term. Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Okay.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

So, term is another big component of it, so... Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Yes. Okay. That's good. We haven't talked about Revolution much recently. Any updates on that project?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brandon Blossman with Tudor, Pickering, Holt

No updates as far as timing. We expect it to be operational no later than November of next year. We also don't have any changes on new customers, but we are working hard and anticipate, hopefully make some announcement soon on adding not only additional customers, but also possible need for a second cryo. So, we continue to work hard in a very difficult area and are optimistic that we'll have new customers soon. Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: All right. Well, that's intriguing. And then just very quick, on the DAPL lake crossing. What's the timeline or when does the lake crossing become a critical task? How long will that actually take from start to finish?

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brandon Blossman with Tudor, Pickering, Holt

Brandon, this is Matt Ramsey. I think the drill process itself is about 90 to 120 days from the time we start. That, of course, depends upon weather. It also depends upon just drilling conditions themselves, but that's about the timeline that we would expect. Brandon Blossman - Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Securities, Inc.: Thank you very much, Matt. Thank you, everybody.

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Brandon Blossman with Tudor, Pickering, Holt

You're welcome.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Darren Horowitz with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question. Darren C. Horowitz - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Good morning, guys. A couple of quick ones for me. The first on PennTex. How do you think about PennTex as a financing currency either with regard to joint venture opportunities with ETP or possibly even dropdowns from ETP to PennTex given the cost of capital variance?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Darren, we – as you know, you've been a friend of ours for a long time. We certainly are trying to add complexity, but we've found these assets to be so intriguing, so complementary. It's rare that you can find assets that fit you so well that you can do what path owners (52:55) do and cause more distributable cash flow to occur. We're really not approaching this from a, I would say, necessarily a cost-of-capital perspective, but rather just good fundamental hydraulics at this time. Now, we wouldn't – that's something we would not ignore and take advantage of the market, as the market suggests we should. But that was not the driving factor behind acquiring control of PennTex, but rather the hydraulic complement it gave to Energy Transfer. Darren C. Horowitz - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. That makes sense. And, Kelcy, my follow-up, if I could. Shifting over to export of gas to Mexico, with regard to what you guys are doing with Trans-Pecos and Comanche, how do you see a lot of either the associated gas or residue gas coming out of the back of processing plant backstopping more volume opportunity for you guys to take the path of least resistance and move gas to the border? I'm more specifically wondering how you see your Intrastate business from a capacity utilization or volume perspective picking up year-over-year?

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · capital variance

Yeah. And I'd like to, for Mackie, to add on to this. But let me just take a stab at that. I'm going to echo what Mackie said that we couldn't be more excited. When we get Trans-Pecos and Comanche Trails online and begin to ramp those volumes up, going back to an earlier question about basis, we don't know what it's going to do, but it's going to do something. It's going to swing one way or the other, and we benefit from that. So, we're really excited about it. You can't take – you can't put a straw in Texas and pull out a billion-and-a-half cubic feet per day and not disrupt the hydraulics of the market, consequently basis. You can't do it. It's impossible. So, I am really excited to see the results of this. That coupled with increased demand along the Gulf Coast that we're seeing, it looks like – as you know, it's been a long time since we've had double-digit basis in Texas, a long time. And I believe that we're coming back into a period where it will be pretty steady in the double-digit plus. Mackie, what are your thoughts?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · capital variance

I agree and I would just add that if you look at our position, if you're a buyer of CFE or other buyers at the Waha Hub, which is, by the way, a 6 Bfc hub, probably the largest in the United States once it's complete. And you say, okay, we'd like to pick – buy gas in San Juan or Barnett Shale or the Panhandle Texas or Carthage or Katy depending on where the most attractive prices are for those buyers. There's only one company that can offer transportation from all those areas through either our interstate or intrastate network. So, as Kelcy just said, it's pretty exciting. We're well positioned and we're looking forward to taking advantage of the basis when it does spread out. Darren C. Horowitz - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.: Thank you.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ross Payne with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.

Ross Payne - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Ross Payne with Wells Fargo. Please state your question

...so much. Kelcy or Mackie, thank you for your comments on Rover. Two quick questions. Do you see any impact from TransCanada's lowering their tariffs to East Canada? And second of all and, perhaps, more importantly, Apache has a huge find in Southwest Permian. How well positioned do you guys think you might be to help them develop that from a structural standpoint? Thanks.

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Ross Payne with Wells Fargo. Please state your question

I'll start in the northeast. As I mentioned, certainly, if you're a owner of molecules (56:47), you're trying to receive as high value as possible and if it does affect the price at Dawn Hub, that will be more impacted to our customers, our shippers. Our contracts are from point A to point B with the demand charge and our long-term agreements. So, we're not exposed to that risk. But what we do have the opportunity, as I mentioned earlier, is to provide a lot of flexibility to these shippers to go maybe even in other areas on a secondary basis if there's better market options for them. As far as Apache, if I just continue to talk about how great that is for them and it's great for us too, once again, we're as well positioned as anybody to handle that both from an Intrastate perspective, from a gathering perspective and to bring it into kind of our super gathering and processing network. So, we're certainly in discussions with them as probably everybody is, and are optimistic that we'll capture some of that business.

Ross Payne - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Ross Payne with Wells Fargo. Please state your question

Great. Thanks, guys.

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Ross Payne with Wells Fargo. Please state your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Tom Abrams with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question. Tom Abrams - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thank you. Three questions. One is, I think it's a noncash – mostly noncash, this impairment of investment in non-consolidated affiliates, $300 million, I believe it has to do with some contract rollovers' anticipated revenues. Is that true, a? And b is, does it have any implications for other legacy pipes in your system through, say, 2017? Is that something that's going to be happening as we go forward?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Yes. It is noncash. I'll answer the first part of that for sure. As you know, that's a 50/50 joint venture with Kinder Morgan. That was MEP, is what it was. As far as any other implications, no, it doesn't really have any other implications as far as the others. As you know, the process, you go through on any of those valuations, you look at each asset or package of assets. But I wouldn't – this one was looked at separately as MEP as a joint venture. No implications as to what work you would do looking at any others, so... Tom Abrams - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Okay. It came very early I thought. The second question is PES. It looked like in your – the affiliate investments was quite negative. And I recall that you wanted to do something with that strategically. I believe that also was non-cash. But what's the thought process around that investment right now?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Yeah. As you know that's a joint venture we have. We're at 32%. ETP is a 32.5% owner in that refinery, Philadelphia Energy Solutions is the refiner. And I think, you can probably appreciate with where things are right now. At one point, we were evaluating whether to do some type of an IPO or something else like that. But with where we are right now, we're just going to continue to work with our partner on that and look for strategic alternatives. But, I think, that's the most I can probably really say right now. But, yeah, there was quite a bit of swing from the third quarter of last year to the third quarter of this year. But, I guess, I would like to say is even as you look out at the fourth quarter, I know I'd mentioned this earlier, but as far as crack spreads, we have seen those improve a bit. But if you try to compare that to even the fourth quarter of last year, you'll see that it had already fallen off kind of in the fourth quarter of 2015. So, anyway, I think that's the most comment we really have on PES. Tom Abrams - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: All right, that's fair. And then lastly, the fact that you're not bound as a backup to DAPL, the fact that you are not voluntarily holding construction, is that a legal pivot if somebody steps in and makes a political move to even though you get an easement, makes a political move to stop construction anyway? Does that give you some ability to appeal that or to sue somebody or to run counter to that legally?

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

And, Matt, I'm not sure I understand the question.

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Tom Abrams with Morgan Stanley

I'm the same way. I'm not really sure I understand the first part of your question. If you're asking if we've stopped construction, we have not stopped construction. Tom Abrams - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: All right. Maybe I'll follow-up with this. It's really trying to get the definition of the word voluntary or non-voluntary, and if that matters in certain circumstances, should the project be held up by extra legal ways?

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Tom Abrams with Morgan Stanley

Well, let me try to do the best to answer the question I can hear, and then I'm more than happy to follow up with you, Tom, and also have Tom Mason, our General Counsel, to follow up with you. But with regard to North Dakota, we're continuing to build, and we're just about buttoned up in terms of finishing having the pipe in the ground and doing everything with the exception of doing the drill under Lake Oahe. And we can't do that drill until we get the permit from the Fed. So, that's really where we are. So, there is no other really construction to do in North Dakota. Now, we are continuing to construct in other parts in other states, such as Iowa, and all that continues. So, we're not under any legal obligation whatsoever in terms of injunction or anything like that nor have we voluntarily agreed to stop construction. I think probably what you're referring to was a couple of days ago the Corps of Engineers in an interview with Bloomberg, said that that they had asked us to voluntarily – that we had agreed to voluntarily stop construction. That was not true. And the Corps of Engineers came out later and asked the Bloomberg reporter to correct that statement. Whether or not they have been replacing our statement since then, we're continuing with all activities that we can under the permits that we have at this point. So maybe that answers your question. Tom Abrams - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Yeah. It's more of a scenario question. If you get the easements and then something else happens to hold you up in an extra legal way, what response do you have? What choices do you have depending on the words that have been used around your activities? It's really a nuanced question. Let's take it offline.

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Tom Abrams with Morgan Stanley

Okay. Perfect.

Operator

Operator

Our last question comes from the line of John Edwards with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question. John Edwards - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Yeah. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. Just if we could just kind of circle back to PTXP just a bit, just sort of kind of the longer-term plans there. I mean, is it ultimately to roll it up into ETP or help me think about that?

Matthew S. Ramsey - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Yeah. John, that would be – there's no immediate plans to do that, but that seems to be kind of where our head is. We're not trying to add additional MLPs around here that we manage, but rather that for us to access these assets that are so incredibly complementary to us, they existed in another publicly-traded MLP and we respect that structure. Presently, they're an independent MLP that has an independent board and in a way they are a competitor. I don't see that structure being appealing to us long term. John Edwards - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Okay. That's helpful. And then, just, Kelcy, is there a fair amount of additional investment opportunity associated with PTXP, anything you can share there?

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Yeah. I'd ask Matthew to help me here too. John, these are the – sometimes this business gets unfun to me, and it's things like PennTex that have reminded me of how much fun the business is because it just stimulates your brain on the way that you can provide a service and just do it more efficiently. Like Matthew said, you can recover more liquids. You can have more residue gas into, as you know, an amazing amount of takeaway capacity we have with a lot of optionality. You can control capacity to Mont Belvieu. You can export liquids out of the country. You can do – there's just so much that can be done here that PennTex independently from us would have relied on others to provide those services. But with us, we can do it all in the family. Mackie, would you?

Marshall S. McCrea - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Credit Suisse

That's well said.

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Thank you, Mackie. John Edwards - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Just, Kelcy, last one from me. I mean, in view of the surprise election results, you'd expressed last quarter is somewhat bearish view outlook on commodity prices and such. Can you update us on your thoughts on natural gas, natural gas liquids and crude prices, just what are you thinking now?

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Credit Suisse

John, I'm stunned by the events of yesterday, and that's not to get in the politics with anybody, I just didn't see this coming. And so, we find ourselves, I believe in a really good position, other than Donald Trump has been very pro, put the coalminers back to work and – let's face it. The natural gas industry has benefited from a policy of putting them out of work. So, there's some things that aren't great, I guess, for the natural gas side of things possibly. But I think, overall, having a government that actually backs up what they say that actually says, we're going to support infrastructure, we're going to support job creation, we're going to support growth in America, and then actually does it. My God, this is going to be refreshing. So, I think, overall, I'm very, very enthusiastic about what's going to happen with our country, very enthusiastic and as it supports our industry. Now, going to the commodity prices. Getting a straw out of the Bakken, which reduces the cost, people forget that. It's costing these people $12, $13 a barrel or so to move it to the Gulf Coast and they're going to be able to move it for half that. That's going to stimulate drilling. That's a good thing. That's a really good thing. And so, we're going to have more jobs. We're going to have more wells drilled in the Bakken. We're going to have – man, what's going on in the Permian is just really exciting. I'm not so sure where commodity prices might be going with oil, but it does appear to me that they are hanging around an area where they might actually work and people drill wells. So, that's good. And then, of course, as you know, with the natural gas sector, we got more volume that we can possibly move. We're lacking infrastructure there. And then, with our NGL business and our crude oil transport business, they're healthy. They're finding opportunities at every step. So, we're really, really enthusiastic about our future. John Edwards - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker): Okay. Great. That's great. Thank you. That's it for me. Thanks.

Kelcy L. Warren - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Thanks, John.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our question-and-answer session. At this time, I would like to turn it back to Mr. Tom Long for closing remarks.

Thomas E. Long - Energy Transfer Partners LP

Management

Thank you, operator. And once again, thank you for joining us today. As we've discussed, we are obviously very excited about all the projects we have coming on line, as well as the new opportunities that we're seeing. I thank all of you for your support, and we obviously look forward to talking to you in the future.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.