Johann Christian Jean Bordais
Analyst
Marcelo, thank you for those 2 questions. The first one, you talked about the margin. I think again, we -- it's -- we're creating a new segment, right? There's a lot of challenges, whether it's on the COGS side. We decided to go for the best in breed suppliers. It's a risk-sharing partnership that we have with our suppliers. We decided to have them and go for -- help us only -- not only for the vehicles and the development, but also the production, the series, the certification and also the aftermarket, we're all learning, let's call it, right? We do have challenges, right? When it comes to the weight, the performance of the vehicle. We have also on the lead time and also the -- well, the development in general. So I don't think it's about margin right here and making sure that we're going to be making a lot of margin on this vehicle. Like I said, it's to make sure that we, first of all, certify. We're very, very cautious and cost cautious about how we spend the money that we have right now and the cash, we talked about this. I do made it clear that we're in a comfortable position, but can be very careful, and that's what we're doing. It needs to take us to the certification, and it will be the second part of the question that you had on the answer that Valentini will give you an update. But right now, it needs to be reasonable. And what we're focused on is not only Eve to make money, but also the customer. It needs to make sense. There's actually no point of delivering eVTOLs to customers that will demonstrate not to be profitable for the operator. It will just only -- will be only selling 100 of them, and that will be it. We'll kill the segment, and that's not the purpose. So I think this is exactly the sweet balance that we're trying to look for with the customers, with the operators to see, first, yes, are we going to be charging and what's going to be the cost of eVTOL, well, you got to get the return? And how much are you going to be charging on the [ pax ]. And we all know that we want to go similar to the premium risk-sharing platform, but it's a long way, right? You want to make sure that you can do this effectively. So I think it's a partnership that we have with customers and both customers and ourselves and suppliers need to be profitable, so -- if we want to be for the long run, and we want to be for the long run. And for the second part, Valentini?