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Evolent Health, Inc. (EVH)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 8, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Evolent Earnings Conference Call for the second quarter ended June 30, 2025. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Your host for the call today from Evolent are Seth Blackley, Chief Executive Officer; and John Johnson, Chief Financial Officer. This call will be archived and available later this evening and for the next week via the webcast on the company's website in the section titled Investor Relations. This conference call will contain forward-looking statements under the U.S. federal laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical experience or present expectations. A description of some of the risks and uncertainties can be found in the company's reports that are filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including cautionary statements included in our current and periodic filings. For additional information on the company's results and outlook, please refer to our second quarter press release issued earlier today. Finally, as a reminder, reconciliations of non-GAAP measures discussed during today's call to the most direct comparable GAAP measures are available in the summary presentation available in the Investor Relations section of our website or in the company's press release issued today and posted on the Investor Relations website, ir.evolent.com, and the Form 8-K filed by the company with the SEC earlier today. In addition to reconciliations, we provide details on the numbers and operating metrics for the quarter in both our press release and supplemental investor presentation. And now I will turn the call over to Evolent's CEO, Seth Blackley.

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Good evening, and thanks for joining the call. We're pleased to announce another quarter of adjusted EBITDA performance ahead of expectations as well as four new partner announcements and an accelerating new business pipeline. We achieved these results through strong execution, but also because of the fit between our products and the top need in the industry, which we believe is balancing quality and cost for the most complex and expensive specialty conditions. We have a number of positive developments to share today across all three pillars of shareholder value creation of organic growth, margin expansion and capital allocation. So let me walk through the updates now on each of those three themes. Starting with organic growth. We have four new revenue agreements across both Technology and Services and the Performance Suite, bringing us to 11 new agreements year-to-date. On the Technology and Services side, we're announcing three new agreements, which are: one, a current partner in the Northeast will add our cardiology, radiation oncology and MSK services across multiple lines of business for more than 400,000 members. Two, a regional partner in New England will add MSK and cardiology services across multiple lines of business; and three, a national partner will add additional MSK services to its plans in the Northeast. In the Performance Suite, we're pleased to expand our oncology and cardiology solution to a new Midwestern state for an existing national partner expected to go live later this year. Also in the Performance Suite, you'll recall that we previously announced a partnership with a national health plan for oncology services. We're pleased to announce today that, that partner is Aetna across 250,000 Medicare Advantage members in the state of Florida. Since that announcement, we've been working closely with Aetna to ensure we are well set up to…

John Paul Johnson

Management

Thanks, Seth. Q2 adjusted EBITDA of $37.5 million was in the top half of our range, driven by strong results across both our Tech and Services and Performance Suite models. In the Performance Suite, normalized oncology trend of approximately 10.5% continues to be modestly below our initial forecast for the year of 12%. As is typical, we have visibility into claims for about half the claims expense in Q2, with the rest comprising an actuarial reserve based in part on leading indicators. For oncology in Q2, our key leading indicator, which is authorizations per 1,000, was flat to down on a per capita basis versus Q1 for each line of business. Recall that we closed Q1 with an elevated level of conservatism in our reserves compared to what we saw in the authorization data. With claims for Q1 now about 90% complete and reflecting expenses in line with what our leading indicators suggested, we have released the majority of that conservatism. That favorability from Q1 claims development was offset by a similarly conservative approach to Q2 for a net neutral impact on our year-to-date results. Prior year claims development was a favorable $11.7 million in the quarter, partially offset by $4.6 million in revenue updates for a net benefit of approximately $7.1 million. This was in line with our expectations. Given the level of focus on medical trend across the managed care industry, I want to go deeper on what we are seeing. Make no mistake, the last nine months represents the highest per member per month trend that we have seen in oncology in the history of our company, driven both by elevated prevalence and cost per active case. Despite this, we are currently favorable to our forecast year-to-date for two reasons. First, we were intentionally conservative in our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Jared Haase at William Blair.

Jared Phillip Haase

Analyst · William Blair

I wanted to ask one on the Aetna announcement. And I think you mentioned 250,000 MA lives in Florida. I know Florida has been a big market for you. So maybe you could talk a little bit about just kind of the power of density. How much did the existing relationships that you have in that market kind of lead to that win? And any framing you could share in terms of how we should expect the margin profile in that market to ramp with Aetna?

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Yes, Jared, it's Seth. I'll take it initially. Let me just first comment on Aetna generally, which is obviously we're honored to be partnering with them. It's an innovative marquee partnership opportunity for us. And I think it really is set up for it to be the first of multiple states. We have to earn that right by doing a great job for them, but that is certainly the intent. To your point, Florida is a logical place to start. But to be honest, I think it's a little bit less about us. And I think we are able to do some slightly different things in Florida, but it's not the biggest driver of this. A lot of it is just about the opportunity with this partner where they have membership and need. And so that's where we're starting, but I would expect this to be able to go to additional states over time, assuming we execute and deliver for the partner.

John Paul Johnson

Management

On the margin ramp, Jared, we'd expect it right now to be consistent with our normal Performance Suite margin ramp to getting to that target 10% margin over the course of the first two years.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Kevin Caliendo of UBS.

Kevin Caliendo

Analyst · UBS

I want to talk about your new contracts. But in the context of given all that changed last year, the way you're structuring your contracts and all that's happened with some of your customers and the trends that they're seeing. Can you just talk about how the conversations are different now? When did they come back to you and reengage? Or what are they looking for now that might be different from in the past? I'm really just trying to understand how you fit into the ecosystem now given your changes and given what's going on with a lot of them who are clearly seeing higher trends.

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Yes. Yes. Great question, Kevin. So look, on the pipeline in general, let me just say a couple of things, and I'll get into the protections. We have about $1 billion in our weighted pipe right now. And that's across Tech Services and Performance Suite. Within the Performance Suite, it does have this enhanced version of the Performance Suite contract. I think the reason we've been able to generate that, that's weighted, as I mentioned, that's sort of what we expect to happen. The reason that has gone up so much is while we're having enhanced contract terms is I think the challenges in the industry have grown, right? So our payer partners across the country are feeling pain around trying to manage these high-cost specialty categories. And they're trying to do it in the context of a world where you don't want to burden the patient or the provider unduly. So you need an innovative way to do it, and that is a perfect fit for who we are. And so I think we've been saying this, I know for a while, there is a countercyclical nature to our business, meaning when the payers are looking around for solutions, I think we fit very well into that. A lot of the costs are in oncology, the cardiology and MSK 2. And to put a very fine point on it, everything we have in our pipeline has the enhanced contract terms for the Performance Suite that we've talked about, that's corridors, that's around data and historical statute limitations on old claims and all the adjusters that we've talked about. That does give up some of the upside that we historically would have had in exchange for more protection. So I think it's a fair trade for our partners. And as the pipeline size and our indication around '26 and revenue for '26 indicate, I think we feel really good about those coming to fruition and creating a lot of value for our partners and for us at the same time.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Daniel Grosslight at Citi.

Daniel R. Grosslight

Analyst · Citi

I want to go back to the Aetna contract. Great to see the new logo there. I'm just curious if maybe you can go into a little bit more detail on kind of the push out to the first quarter of '26. What needs to happen there before you're comfortable launching? And why kind of the more drawn out process?

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Yes. Yes, Daniel. So we're very confident it's going to launch on that time frame. So that -- I'll just say that first. In terms of why it's delayed a little bit from initial, I think this is a case of a couple of things. One, being extremely disciplined about making sure everything we need under an enhanced partnership is in place, the things that I just mentioned. But secondly, I think there's a concept of slowdown to speed up, which is getting the data feeds and the data exchange well-honed such that you have an excellent go-live and you can have a faster follow for additional states. And in this environment, we chose to be a little more disciplined around the speed, and there's a trade-off on that, but I think that will have a payoff with respect to the opportunity to go to additional states over time. So that's the summary of it.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from John Stansel with JPMorgan.

John Paul Stansel

Analyst · JPMorgan

I know the exchanges are a smaller portion of your book, I think 20% of 2Q revenue and $180 million in the back half. Can you just talk about qualitatively how you're thinking about '26 given the expectation of increased morbidity in the ACA risk pools and how your payer discussions have gone in that space?

John Paul Johnson

Management

Yes. So 20% of our revenue overall, about half in tech and services, half in the Performance Suite. So as we think about that margin on that book of business overall in '26, because of the composition of that business, it tends to trend towards lower-margin services. There's a fair bit of surgical management business in there, for example, that has a lower gross margin than average on the Tech and Services side, et cetera. And then on the Performance Suite side, as we look out to next year prior to any changes that might come from demographic movements, we project them to be a little less than our target 10% based on where they are in their maturation curve. So that's sort of your starting point. I think it's too early to know exactly what happens. I think what -- where we're focused right now is, one, protecting the downside, as Seth noted, ensuring that we have the right protections in the contracts, which we do around corridors and the like. And then focused on growing the business in a disciplined way to deliver on our target to grow EBITDA in a wide range of potential outcomes on the exchanges. That's where we're focused.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Jeff Garro at Stephens.

Jeffrey Robert Garro

Analyst · Stephens

Maybe we'll return to the pipeline and ask you to drill down a little bit on the pipeline for Performance Suite from net new clients. I think you already hit the specialty vector with a focus on oncology. But maybe you could add to it on where you're seeing potential interest there from a line of business? And then what type of plan, more national accounts or regional or Blues, where are you seeing those different vectors of opportunity play out in the pipeline for Performance Suite?

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Yes, Jeff, I'd say on the Performance Suite side, it's shaded towards oncology. I'd say that's where the biggest need in the marketplace is right now. It's not just oncology, but it is certainly shaded in that direction. There are a mix of national plans, regional and blue plans in that pipeline. And look, I think the dynamic is what I described earlier, which is two things. One, organizations looking around for new and different solutions. I'd say there's a higher mix of new logo in there than has ever been in the past. And that's great. We're excited about that. I think that's great for the business and from a diversification perspective. And so there's a lot of new logo in there. And then secondly, I do think where CMS is headed thematically and specifically with the commitments they've pushed into the marketplace with the new programs they're launching is going to create an environment where if you're today in-sourcing one of these specialties, which is maybe 30% to 50% of the market depending on which specialty it is, I think it's going to become very hard to in- source over time as those commitments become required around clinical data exchange and sophistication of the timing. So that will be a tailwind. And then I think, again, I mentioned this before, I think some of the -- there are some vendors in the marketplace, I think, will have a harder time meeting those commitments. So there's a couple of different things driving this shaded towards oncology and a lot of new logo in there.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jailendra Singh with Truist.

Eduardo Enrique Ron

Analyst · Truist

This is Eduardo Ron on for Jailendra. Just on the -- I think, John, you made the comment that you see a path to in excess of $2.5 billion in 2026. Just given the Q4 run rate, that's like $1.9 billion or so, that's a $600 million step-up to next year. Just curious -- and the new contracts that you talked about is $250 million. So just curious what line of sight you have into the incremental $350 million or so million that you're talking about here.

John Paul Johnson

Management

Yes. So that $350 million, Eduardo, is based on the weighted pipeline that we have now that Seth referenced over $1 billion with some expectations of when that pipeline might go live during 2026. So that's the root of our confidence around that number.

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Yes. And just to put a finer point, I think the comment was at least $2.5 billion. We obviously -- the $1 billion would take you well above that. And so to John's point, it's really around timing is the only question.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Charles Rhyee at TD Cowen.

Charles Rhyee

Analyst · TD Cowen

I just wanted to follow up on some of your answers here. Maybe first on the $2.5 billion sort of target, understanding that the pipeline -- your comments around pipeline. But in relation to sort of your assumptions for HIC for individual exchange, does that assume -- because it seems like, John, you don't have yet an estimate of what you think that impact might be for '26. Do you make any assumption for a decline in that business within that $2.5 billion? And then secondly, obviously, Aetna signing for MA starting next year sounds great. Just curious about sort of the large customer that you had that was doing Performance Suite in oncology, in Florida and another state, obviously, going to tech and suites. Any discussions now that trend -- this kind of higher level of utilization has stabilized of them coming back to kind of switch back to Performance Suite yet?

John Paul Johnson

Management

Yes. Sounds good. I'll take the first one and I'll kick to Seth second one around customer commentary. Yes, we have assumed in our build for next year at this point, some decline in the exchange population across both tech and services and Performance Suite.

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

Yes. And then on the other question you asked about specific partner, I'd say in general, I'll answer it generically, which is the Performance Suite solution is the best way to create value for our partners, for members, for providers. So I think over time, if you're Tech Services, you're going to move some states to Performance Suite, always timing based. There's been a lot of volatility in membership, which does make it harder to price and go live with the market, and that's one of the challenges that we had there. But I do think because of the value proposition, those things are likely to happen. And it's a timing thing, which I don't want to throw out specific time lines, but I do think those types of things will happen.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Matthew Glimmer at KeyBanc.

Matthew Dale Gillmor

Analyst · KeyBanc

I wanted to ask a guidance question on the oncology trend. I think you said the trend was 10.5%. John had mentioned that you closed 2Q conservatively similar to 1Q and then 1Q developed favorably. Can you give us some sense for where the first quarter oncology trend is ultimately developing relative to the 12% guide? And then I think there was also a comment about an assumption about a pull forward of utilization maybe around the exchange business that you've incorporated in the guide. I was wondering if you could quantify that just so we understand if there's extra burden that you're putting under the guide.

John Paul Johnson

Management

Yes. Good questions, Matt. So as you think about the first half, the 10.5% that I mentioned is the rate for the full first half of the year. And so the first quarter being more fully complete is a little lower than that, and we closed the second quarter above that. As we think about our guide, as I mentioned, we've largely remained conservative. And so what does that look like? It's about 12% for the second half of the year. That's composed of modestly better underlying expectations, offset by, as I mentioned, this idea of a potential benefits rush in the exchange business, smallest part of the business, but there ahead of potential changes in membership next year. So those 2 net out to what we think is a relatively conservative 12% assumption at the midpoint of our guide for the back half of the year.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Matthew Shea at Needham.

Matthew Dineen Shea

Analyst · Needham

We have filled the bucket. So any new launches that we haven't already announced for this year would be incremental for 2025. really This is Jenny Shen on for Dave. It's encouraging to hear that the oncology cost trend is trending favorably. Just any of your thoughts On MSK, radiology, other specialties in our stable, we don't take risk there. And so we're less sensitive to volumes. we haven't seen a is there much go get left in terms of new customers in the full year guide? Or have you pretty much filled the bucket at this point?

John Paul Johnson

Management

now focused on building up '26.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from David Larsen at BTIG.

Jenny Shen

Analyst · BTIG

on overall utilization. We've seen some of the hospitals report lighter volumes in areas like ortho and MSK. Does that have any positive read-through to you guys? What are you seeing in the other specialty areas?

John Paul Johnson

Management

Yes. So just going specialty by specialty, we've seen cardiology trend be quite consistent with our expectations this year. So it's elevated relative to a 10-year baseline, for example, but it's pretty consistent with what we expected. particularly significant shift in either direction in our particular book of business.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Seth Blackley for any closing remarks.

Seth Barrie Blackley

Management

All right. Thanks for the time this evening. Look forward to connecting soon.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.