Mario Polywka
Analyst · Trinity Delta
Thanks very much, no need to be polite. Anyway, INDiGO, yes, what we find with INDiGO, what was a key attraction of the acquisition of Aptuit is this ability to go from effectively, a preclinical development candidate very rapidly into a submission of an IND or CTA or ready for Phase I. And we had found ourselves in terms of development of some of our compounds, the doctrine, you end the discovery phase and then somebody looks up and says, "Right. Now we need to make active pharmaceutical ingredients, now we have issues with formulation, how do we go out and find a CRO for tox, et cetera." What we found here with Aptuit is all of the -- well, first of all, under one roof with strongly experienced people and what we can do especially within our own discovery projects is start to look at these areas. So as we go towards but not yet at nomination of our preclinical candidate, we're able to assess the synthetic tractability of a compound, whether we have formulation issues, whether there's any early tox findings we should use. And hence, when we do nominate the compound, we are ready to go. We have a synthetic process in place, we have people making the API, formulation is being addressed and we're project managing into the various tox basis. So this really shortens the time lines, and of course, it means we're bringing projects to the clinic much more quickly and into -- and more efficiently. So it's exactly how we thought it was. We're also finding that it's a great attraction for when defining early discovery deals. Because now from the outset, we are able to offer our partners a program that starts from screening and we'll partner with them all the way through to the clinic, whereas previously, we stopped at the preclinical development candidate. So we're finding two aspects of the cross-selling there. At Cyprotex, it has been a great success. Actually, what's behind that? Well, again, we did our due diligence well, and we realized that there was great people involved in the organization. We were able to help them move out of old premises into much more state-of-the-art premises, which means they can deliver more efficiently. We are able to cross-sell, especially with the huge commercial network that Evotec has. And we focused increasingly on more strategic selling rather than tactical selling. So I think we've got the balance there. But primarily, I think we've been able to maintain the motivation of a fantastic group of scientists who continue to deliver tremendous data, whether it's on a completely stand-alone basis or as part of integrated drug discovery. So our learnings are as always, it's fundamentally about the people. And if the people remain motivated and we can introduce them into the Evotec way of thinking, and you heard and saw Werner's formula at the beginning of the presentation, then that's really what makes a successful integration.