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Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Sun, Aug 12, 2018

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Werner Lanthaler

Management

Good afternoon. This is Werner speaking from Evotec. We are here to report on our first-half of 2018. I welcome here together with me, my management team, Enno Spillner, Mario Polywka, and Cord Dohrmann, who are executing on excellent first-half together with me here as a collective management team. We have uploaded a presentation for this event, and we would like to invite you to follow this presentation for the beginning of this call, and then of course, we go into question-and-answers later. When you go to Page 4 of this presentation, you should see that the business performance across all areas is strong. Our growth is not happening by chance. It's the result of all forces working together as one, within one company. With this, Mario will tell you more about the excellent progress within Evotec Execute. Cord will tell you more about the excellent progress of Evotec Innovate. And then, I will then update you on corporate events that has been happening. To go to Page 5 and highlight a few numbers first, you should see that we are fully on track for increased growth, increased profits, and this with even higher value-generation through higher investments into R&D that we are guiding as of today. We are very happy that by increasing our R&D expenses, we will also translate this into higher values going forward. The numbers should speak for themselves, Enno will guide you through that, but you see a strong financial performance through all business lines at this stage. When you go to Page 6 of this presentation, you should be reminded of our hybrid business model. Both segments are performing nicely at this stage. And as an overall picture you should see that in the last 5 years we have come to critical size which…

Mario Polywka

Management

Thank you, Werner, and good afternoon to everybody from steamy Hamburg. It's a pleasure to speak to you today on the continued good performance of the company. And I will focus on the Execute business segment. With the full half-year contribution now from Aptuit at more than €50 million, our growth in core Evotec business through new collaborations and expanded ongoing collaborations, revenue grew by more than 60% to €163 million, supported by strong concomitant growth in EBITDA. Enno will give you further analysis on the result, however, with a different margin mix brought through from the acquisition of Aptuit, it is still an exceptional result to be at a greater than 20% EBITDA on the segment. Moving to Slide 12, the integration of a significant business such as Aptuit, of course, is no trivial exercise. And it is gratifying to report that operationally this is on track, as well as commercially. The leveraging of the expanded development offering to our existing Evotec partner portfolio, the increased uptake to extended business development reach and the strengthening of our discovery offering by taking a part in a much further along the value chain, we have now multiple examples of new discovery projects which no longer stop at PDC but go all the way through to R&D and beyond. We have a program to expand our API production capacity in Verona and Abingdon, both of which are proceeding to plan and will be on-stream later this year. This will again drive our overall INDiGO capacity from next year and onwards. On to Slide 13, what is our customer mix? Well, compared to last year, the reliance of our revenues on a relatively small number of key projects has decreased. This is of course a welcome sign for any business risk, but our…

Cord Dohrmann

Management

Thank you, Mario, and good afternoon to everybody on the call. It's my great pleasure to give you an update on Evotec Innovate. Within Evotec Innovate's business segment, our focus is on building long-term financial upside through high-value pharma partnerships. These partnerships let us participate in the successful development, and eventually, market entry of product opportunities through the achievement of development milestones, or ultimately, royalties. Evotec Innovate started 2018 with a very solid first quarter and continued on this path in the second quarter as well. Based on this, we are on track for yet another great year for Evotec Innovate, with very significant and accelerated growth. My first slide, Slide 17 summarizes Evotec Innovate's financial performance in the first-half of 2018. Revenues from Evotec Innovate have increased from about €20 million in the first half of 2017, to €32 million in the first-half of 2018. This constitutes an increase of revenues of more than 50%, which is based entirely on organic growth. At the same time, EBITDA increased significantly to earning a slight profit, mainly due to the fact that we achieved a number of milestones in this quarter. Overall, we do expect that the milestone contribution will continue to increase based on our continuously growing portfolio of partnered product opportunities. Nevertheless, it is important to keep in mind that we do not control the exact timelines the milestones are reached in individual projects, and therefore, the milestone contribution can and will vary significantly from quarter-to-quarter. Finally, R&D expenses are in line with prior years, but I expect that to increase due to a very significant expansion of our infectious disease project portfolio. So in conclusion, we had an excellent start into 2018, which we believe will translate into another year for Evotec Innovate. In addition to growing revenues,…

Enno Spillner

Management

Yeah, thank you, Cord, and today I have the great pleasure of presenting first half-year and Q2 [with our] [ph] numbers to you. Welcome to the call, and let me start on Page 27 with the half-year review first. So the group revenues increased significantly by 67% to €174 million, compared to €104 million during the same period of the previous year. R&D expenses for the first six months of 2018 increased by 17% to €10 million, reflecting continued investment into R&D activities, currently mainly in the field of CNS and metabolic diseases, as well as having a focus on academic BRIDGE initiatives. SG&A expenses for the first half of 2018 increased as expected by 72% to €27.1 million compared to €15.8 million in H1 of 2017, and these SG&A expenses were mainly impacted by the addition of Aptuit for the first half-year, also by an increase in headcount in response to the overall growth of the organization. Our M&A activities in particular in context with our Lyon ID activity, and other project-related costs for the implementation of new tools and software to grow the company. Evotec unfortunately also had to record impairments of intangible assets of €4.2 million in total. The program EVT770 was fully impaired, as the board [ph] project was put on hold. However, at the same time, this €4 million impairment is offset by a release of earn-out accruals related to this program in the amount of €2.3 million, which we have recorded under operating income. Thus, the net impact is about €1.7 million. The developed assets within the Panion joint venture also were fully impaired, which is an impact of €0.2 million, as it was decided to discontinue these programs. I also would like to mention the other operating income, which in the first six…

Werner Lanthaler

Management

On Page 32, you see our future reporting dates. And by inviting you to follow us going forward, I also want to thank you for where you are motivating us as one Evotec to go. And with this, we're open for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We go to the line of Falko Friedrichs of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Falko Friedrichs

Management

Hello, a couple of questions from my end, please. Firstly, for the mid-point of your old R&D guidance should have equated to roughly 7% of sales in 2018. With the new guidance now, it's roughly €50 million and more in the second-half of 2018. Can you help us how we should model this for the next years? Is it fair to assume that the underlying level of R&D expenses remains at the 7% of sales, and then there will be another roughly €30 million per year on top, which will then obviously be compensated by Sanofi and the other operating income line? Meaning, can we expect a total R&D expense of round about €60 million in 2019, and then, growing in line with sales from then on? Then following on to that, is it fair to assume that starting for the second half of 2023, so five years from today, we take out the Sanofi coverage in the other operating income line, and you will have the full EBITDA impact of these higher R&D expenses. Then my third question, could you share the organic growth of the Execute base business excluding Aptuit, for Q2, and also for H1? And then, a very quick last one, can you tell us what you plan with the EVT770 project now? Will you be looking for new partner or will that be discontinued?

Werner Lanthaler

Management

Thank you so much for the questions. Question number one will be handled by Enno and Cord. Question number two will be handled by Enno. Question number three will be handled by Mario. Question number four I will comment. The most important principle for all the projects that we co-own with our partners is always that we want to ensure that every project is fully invested. So, projects can be terminated for different reasons. One is of course scientific reason, because the project just doesn't work. Or there are strategic reasons that these projects are discontinued, or the indications where this project has been positioned in, are no longer the strategic indications where our partners are going. But it is typically a contract arrangement that we have, that once the full investment is not happening from our partner in such a project, the project falls back to us, and that we are allowed to open the portfolio of options, what we can do next with this project. We can then either make an own R&D project out of it and repurpose it. We can re-partner it. Or, of course, we can completely stop it. To be specific on EVT770, the most important message we want to give you is that we just write it off. So with this you have a zero. And it becomes from value that you had on the balance sheet to a pure upside option if anything would happen to this project in the future. We have seen situations where projects that have come back to us, we were able to re-partner. But on this one, I would at this stage just be cautious and give our R&D teams the chance to evaluate what would be the next step to be done with this project. But again, for you, you should be cautious and just keep it at zero. When it comes to question number one, I now hand back to Enno.

Enno Spillner

Management

Okay. Welcome, Falko. So about the R&D modeling, I think you're on the right track, so there will be a base commitment independent from the ID activity that we have in Lyon. on the other fields amongst Evotec, which in the past years was in the area of roughly €20 million or slightly below. And you can take this as a good common ground to continue these base activities. And then, obviously, if you take the mid of what we have now, forecast for the second-half of 2018, that should be a good indicator for the time while we have the idea to achieve - being fully supported and financed. That said we will have to do a more in-depth review of our individual project efforts in context of the new budgeting process, so this can be adjusted for the years to come. But that's the current stage where we are right now. Coming to the second question right away about 2023, with regards to the R&D impact after that period, I think clearly we need to review at that point in time how far we got with our ID pipeline and if there's a return, and what we can afford from the EBITDA perspective. But we will not just allow that this just slide through into EBITDA result impacting if there's no upside or future potential on the other side. So this will be reviewed at that point in time.

Werner Lanthaler

Management

Let me - before I hand over to question number three - just add a sentence to the statement that Enno just made on R&D expense. Many companies, where you make a percentage of sales as R&D commitment, are typically pharma companies that are selling products. When you look at Evotec's top line, one could argue that almost everything that you see in this top line is R&D spend, because what we are doing with our partners is investing into research and development and drug discovery. So, therefore, I would like to make a word of caution, just to say that it's 7% of R&D expenditure from our top-line, no, it's not. Yeah, this is close to 100% R&D. You just see it as R&D which is accounted for in partner project with our partners. And that's the power of Evotec going forward, that we are on the platform, learning while our partners and we together are progressing this R&D platform forward. That's just, that we put this, not into the box of other companies who are classical drug-selling companies or other selling companies. Thank you for that comment that I was able to make. And now, I give to Mario on question two - number three, sorry.

Mario Polywka

Management

And so, the question here was the growth in the Execute core business. H1 of 2018 compared to 2017 was significantly low on milestones, but the growth was around 6%. Going forward, H2 will be larger in milestones. And I think, overall for planning purposes around 10% growth year-on-year would be what we would expect.

Falko Friedrichs

Management

Perfect. Thank you.

Werner Lanthaler

Management

Thank you. With this, Falko, we hope that your questions are answered and we will hand over to the next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Yes, of course. That's of the line of Igor Kim at ODDO BHF. Please go ahead, Igor, your line is now open.

Igor Kim

Management

Yes, hello. Thanks. Congratulations with good result. First, I've got a couple of questions on Cyprotex. Could you give a bit of color how the revenue has developed in the second quarter, and also margin year-over-year? And for Aptuit as well would be helpful, if you could give a color on Aptuit margin development and what proportion of revenues came from [in bigger] [ph] projects in the second quarter, or in the first-half of the year, whatever is more comfortable for you? And the last question is tax credits that we've seen in the first-half of the year was much higher. Should we expect a similar amount for the rest of the year? Thanks.

Werner Lanthaler

Management

Question number three will go to Enno. Question number one and two will go also to Mario. But let me first here caution you, that we are not intending to divide out individual margins of individual segments of our business to an even further detail. Why? Because, what we bring to our partners are increasingly integrated projects, where we come together for our partners as one platform. So therefore, the individual carved-out margin of, for example, DMPK Tox testing in Cyprotex is not fully indicative of the value that we're generating with these integrated projects. And that, just to give you that as a starting point by handing over to Mario, who gives you a bit of a better color on those businesses, how they're performing.

Mario Polywka

Management

Yeah. Thank you, Werner. Hello, Igor. So gross [ph] in Cyprotex, again, 5% or 6%, I would say for the first half of the year, tremendous margin increase. We don't give very specific detail business line margins, but certainly Cyprotex is in the mid-40%, so it's a strong margin contribution from Cyprotex over last year. Report of INDiGO is quite difficult to be very specific on that, because you have some complete INDiGOs, you have INDiGOs where the API is supplied versus being manufactured, but probably around 35% or so, 40% of Aptuit revenues will be INDiGO-related. Building up more capacity, we could probably think that we would then add another 10% or 15% of INDiGOs from next year.

Werner Lanthaler

Management

But of course, it's the overall strategic purpose, is to increase our cross-selling activities from ongoing drug discovery projects out of Evotec Innovate, partner with our project partners, and then translate them into DMPK tox testing from Cyprotex and of course then into INDiGOs with Aptuit. And that flow of drug discovery project into the INDiGO processes of Aptuit are more than anything else driving R&D efficiencies through speed. Then what we bring to our customers is not purely people solutions. It's really that we are speeding up that process, and that's the key why we think this cross-selling offering for our partners with INDiGO is nicely picking up as we see it today. But there is still a long way to go until we have the full market education done there. With this, I would like to hand over to the next question.

Enno Spillner

Management

Maybe we still have a tax credit pending. So, Igor, coming back to your question regarding the tax credits, I think overall we are making really good progress and the overall increase comes now, A, through the contribution of Aptuit, which is onboard new in that regard, claiming tax credit for the first half-year. And obviously, we also try to increase our volume at the other sides, namely in UK and France as well, as revenue is growing here. And as you ask for the Q1 versus Q2, I think Q2 is a good orientation here because in Q1 we still had some carryover effects from the past years, where we got notification of tax credits which were still accounted for in 2017.

Igor Kim

Management

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Okay. We're now over to the line of Brigitte De Lima at goetzpartners. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Brigitte De Lima

Management

Good afternoon. Two questions from my side, if I can. The first one, as you mentioned how you sort of generate getting to certain scale, and how you can work on bigger projects and be more ambitious, I was wondering if that has had any positive impact on your pricing power and if you see that you can start charging more and more per FTEs per project? And if so, can you quantify it to some extent? And the second was on the iPSC platform, there's obviously a lot of activity. And what I was wondering about is where you are in terms of attracting new partnerships with industry. Is this on the table that you intend to expand beyond Sanofi and Celgene and attract additional industry plays to generate additional streams of milestones in the near-term? And should we expect something to see potentially?

Werner Lanthaler

Management

Hello, Brigitte. For the first question, let me just invite Cord to give you, as an illustrating example, how we look at this increased scale and flexibility model in partnering by for example, illustrating this with the latest oncology alignment that we have done with Celgene here, and Cord also will comment on the second part of your question.

Cord Dohrmann

Management

So generally, we're looking for strategic partnerships with sufficient scale to create productivity and bring a drug candidate forward to R&D and beyond. And as attrition is fairly high in early-stage drug discovery, especially on highly innovative projects, the scale - the appropriate scale here for these projects is in our view, in the range of 50 people, five projects at least, to get there. And overall the year, I think have been very fortunate in crafting a number of these partnerships in this range, in this scale, with various balances in terms of risk and reward, so how much risk we take in these partnerships and how much upside we take in these partnerships. We continue to put together proposals that are in this line, so that we hope to attract additional partnerships of the similar scale in the future. Nevertheless, much of this also, of course depends on our partners - on our potential partners. In regards to the iPSC platform, the iPSC platform has grown very significantly over the past three years, so we are now over 100 people in iPSC-based drug discovery, focused on this. We have a number of internal projects that we're on this, and continuously growing here. And we have various discussions on potential partnerships, also with potential industry partners. Here, however, we are trying to of course attract the best possible partners to all of our projects, and in that regard, I don't want to comment on exact timelines for these partnerships.

Mario Polywka

Management

And this is Mario here to make another comment to follow-on from Cord's about scale of partnerships and efficiency. Even within the Execute field, what we find now is with the extensive platform, with the therapeutic area expertise that doing your own focused internal R&D brings, you're able to take on big portfolio projects. And we'll be discussing some of those in the next few months. And then of course you're not tactically competing against WuXi or Syngene, because they don't have the knowhow, the platform, the project management. So that means now you're in a different discussion, where you talk about premium rates and even without your own IP. But the platform strength, you're able to ask for milestones, as well.

Brigitte De Lima

Management

That's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We are now over to the line of Joseph Hedden at Rx Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Joseph Hedden

Management

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I've got two. Firstly, on your collaboration with CHDI, it's historically been an important contributor to Execute, and I believe it expires this month. Can you just shed some light on any potential discussions you have over extending that, if you have any? And then secondly, the upfront payment from Sanofi for the infectious disease deal, how can we think about modeling that? Is that going to be deferred over the five years that you'll be receiving the research payments? Thank you.

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

To your first question, Mario, who is sitting next to me here, looks very confident on the progression of this very important alliance within the year 2018, where there's a natural term ending. The 50 people that are typically working for the Huntington's disease field have not achieved their goal, which is finding a new drug in Huntington's disease. And that's the pleasure of working with a foundation who has a clear mission, which we share, and that we are completely dedicated to. Together with the CHDI, we will not give up until we have found a drug in Huntington's disease, and that's also our commitment to our partner here. That's why we are very confident that we will see a prolongation in one or the other form going forward here. On the second question, I hand over to Enno.

Enno Spillner

Management

Good. So with regard to the upfront by Sanofi, which was in total €60 million as we communicated, so this is mainly to cover the initial cost when starting and ramping up the whole process, roughly for the first 9 to 12 months. But this amount consists of different blocks, so there's also some CapEx in there that will be covered and some reserve, obviously, that we take over as we take also the long-term obligations for our new roughly 100 employees with regard to pensions and everything. So that is also covered in this, basically as a down payment, which will go straight into our balance sheet into liabilities here, respectively. So it's only for the starting point.

Joseph Hedden

Management

Okay. Thanks so much.

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

Okay, invite the next question.

Operator

Operator

Yes, of course, that is Volker Braun, Bankhaus Lampe. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Volker Braun

Analyst

Yes, thank you. Follow-on on that new activity in infectious diseases. It seems to me that doctors covering this area is at least a bit more developed than maybe in Alzheimer's disease, there are more disease models working, or predictable. What is Evotec able to etch in that field? What are the characteristics of the development process in comparison to other diseases? And is it fair to assume that a potential partner in the collaboration is to expect sooner than later, or is it too aggressive?

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

Thank you so much. The question will go to Cord.

Cord Dohrmann

Management

So we've been active in the infectious disease space for quite some time. It was three or four years ago when we acquired Euprotec in UK, as a smaller unit, back then roughly 20 people that has grown now to close to 80 people, and through this move we essentially acquired a lot of expertise and had a big learning curve in the field as well. Now with the Sanofi transaction, we add another platforms, but also projects and of course a lot of expertise in the field, which will help us tremendously going forward to drive the existing project forward, to hopefully key value points. However, here we in contrast to the Evotec Innovate strategy, so far to partner projects early, we are a lot more cautious here. We basically are prepared to take projects forward all the way to human proof-of-concept if necessary before partnerships. And this is essentially how we modeled our plans. So we are not counting on early stage partnerships at this point in time, but rather are looking forward to really develop these projects and then see if there are partnerships out there. But even in the long run, it might be an option to take projects all the way forward here into the market. Overall, I think in terms of what differentiates us now in the infectious disease space, I think overall we - with this transaction we have access to probably the biggest infectious disease platform in the world, and we have one of the largest portfolios that we're working on. We have a huge academic network that will supply further projects in the field. And I think it is clear to everybody here that it's a huge unmet medical need coming that needs to be served to some extent. So we feel it's - we may not have mapped out all the details, but overall we feel like we're on the right track, and we have a very comfortable base to start with. And that - we feel like the extremely well position to make that highly successful endeavor going forward.

Volker Braun

Analyst

Can I add a few more? Did I understand it correctly, that you're prepared to take it to the proof-of-concept in human beings, that means clinical trials, Phase 2, and taking also the financial implications? That's correct, or was it a wrong understanding?

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

For us it means that we have co-operations in the form that either put together with pharma partners, that's what you see in many disease areas where we're working. Where there is commercial partnering possible. In the field of infectious diseases, proof-of-concept is very often necessary to come to a commercial case, because otherwise this field is commercially just not trivial. What we expect for this field, and that's also why we are out promoting this field, that there will be significant public support for certain disease areas, which will help us carrying the costs up to proof-of-concept trials, for example. And also please don't forget that there is significant support from Sanofi behind this platform to bring certain projects forward to their potentially also clinically inflection points. So in contrast to other disease areas where we typically want to have a partner onboard as early as preclinical stage, I would say, or even before that, in infectious diseases we have to open here the vision a bit wider.

Volker Braun

Analyst

Okay then, I have to ask another question. What is the characteristic of a typical infectious disease trial? Presumably, it's a larger number of patients but shorter time frame? Or because the modeling here would be done a bit different to what we are used to?

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

No, I would say here we're really shooting for proof-of-concept trials, and demonstrating early efficacy in a smaller number of subjects, that's in patients rather than going for broad proof-of-concept wise trials. So I think it depends very much on individual projects, but especially in the entire bacterial infections, we're not going to go for the large comparative trials but rather an initial proof-of-concept.

Volker Braun

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

Okay, ciao.

Operator

Operator

Okay. We are now over to the line of Victoria English of Evernow Publishing. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Victoria English

Analyst

Yes. Werner, in the beginning of your presentation you talked about the wanting to keep the focus of Evotec on R&D acceleration. Now what I'm trying to work out is whether the investment and effort that you're putting into the iPSC platform in the Innovate part of your business has application to the Execute part of your business, and whether you're planning to bring that over or integrate it in any way. The second part of the question is, in all these months I haven't heard anybody say anything about animal studies. Are you in fact, when you're working with your partners, still conducting or still relying on animals to do a large part of your work?

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

Hello, Victoria. Good to hear you. To your second question, yes, of course, we have wherever there is predictive animal models applicable, in solid models, a huge effort going in building translatable animal models. I think that's the key word here, where for us the key is to have high quality, translatable models going. They're very often, for example, we have to educate our partners and ourselves that it's not always reliable to go to, for example, many academically published animal protocols and follow them. So that's why very often we build these things on our own. On iPSCs, specifically the vision is, of course, to have the clinical trial in a dish, and to get completely out of animal models. But that's a long-term vision, not applicable in all the fields, of course. And with this I hand over to Cord on the, I would say, synergy between iPS and other fields. But the focus clearly is here to build our own big vision on iPS sales together with our partners.

Cord Dohrmann

Management

Victoria, this is Cord speaking. Thank you for your question. So, generally, I would say that with the iPSC platform that we have built at Evotec over many years or last few years, it is such a highly differentiated platform that we continue to differentiate via highly comprehensive phenotypic and molecular readout possibilities, and also then data analysis tools that we're putting on top of that, that we feel regardless, if you want to call it Evotec Execute or Evotec Innovate, every project we run we feel like - on these platforms, we feel that we are entitled to royalties. And, here, it is usually more, becomes more a matter of how many opportunities can we pursue, with what potential partners at this point in time. Because, it's not as - not that easy to continue to build the capacity at the speed that we have been building. But we are firmly committed to continue on this path. And it is and will be a platform going forward, where significant learning curves and improvements are possible. And once again, also in this case, Evotec is extremely well-positioned at this point in time and we intend to capitalize on this.

Victoria English

Analyst

Thank you.

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

Pleasure.

Operator

Operator

We have a final question. And that is over to the line of Mick Cooper with Trinity Delta. Please go ahead.

Mick Cooper

Analyst

Good afternoon, everyone. Continuing on the theme of accelerating R&D, and artificial intelligence is getting increasingly interest in that field, with regard to drug discovery. And you mentioned it on Slide 20. Can you provide some details on the strategic ventures in that area and your current use of AI in drug discovery?

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

So thank you so much. What you should see is that in drug discovery there is that probably most positive revolution ongoing for many, many decades, when you think about the power of iPS cells, when you think about the power of CRISPR, when you think about other tools coming into play that ultimately will make more specific answers possible way earlier in the drug discovery process. Artificial intelligence, for example, in chemistry, but also in many other areas of drug discovery, combined with other tools all of a sudden make this process so much more inside tool. So early where we are going, that the risk that you take is now no longer only happening when you see and turn the card by the end of Phase 2. But you can frontload the risk, by having significantly better tools available that are integrated working here on, for example, patient-derived material, then in iPS cells, build assays for drug-discovery processes. Then together with CRISPR and other tools put together, and then, accelerated via target-based artificial intelligence in chemistry to go for the fastest and best molecules here. This should just illustrate to you where the power of our platform comes in, because Evotec has come to critical size, that through our Execute platform together with our Innovate platform and our strategic partners, for example, in artificial intelligence, a company called Exscientia that we co-own out of the U.K. All of a sudden, these tools come on our platform and make the process, basically, a one-stop-shop high data-driven, highly-efficient platform. And that's why it is important to look at the whole picture here. CRISPR alone is one hammer. Yeah. What we try to do is to integrate all the hammers, and nail down the disease, yeah, as early as possible before we translate it into the clinic. That's our vision, and that's what our partners increasingly find attractive.

Mick Cooper

Analyst

Thank you for your comprehensive answer.

Operator

Operator

I apologize. There's a follow-up question from Brigitte at goetzpartners. Are you - do you have time to take it?

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

Sure, always for Brigitte.

Operator

Operator

Please go ahead.

Brigitte De Lima

Management

Sorry, so much can of worms in a way. Just sort of you've opened a can of worms. And then, sort of following on from Mick's question, because it's a fascinating field, but you've always been a visionary. So if you look at what Evotec is doing in AI and how you're harnessing all this technology including for Exscientia, so if you look at Evotec five years down the line, what Evotec do you see? What are the big changes to Evotec in 5 or maybe 10 years we'll have compared to what we see now? Where do you see these efficiencies coming through? Is it few people doing more projects? And you know, you having greater profitability per person? I sort of find it difficult to predict that, but obviously, you must have a much better view than me. Hopefully, you will appreciate an answer.

Werner Lanthaler

Operator

The answer exists already. It's called Action Plan 2022, which is reading out for the next five years how our vision in drug discovery. So this is really the acceleration of what we are currently doing in Evotec Execute and what we're doing in Evotec Innovate, to a bigger scale, and more integration in even more flexible new formats with our biotech and pharma partners. And I think that's really the nice thing about the company at this stage that the fundamental ideas are already there. Also, the fundamental experiments for many disease areas, we can already describe. Very often we don't have the exact formula how to solve it, but we have for many of these things laid out at least the beginning technologies, and now, we just have to execute on as many disease areas as possible on that. And that's why we trust we'll do more of the same going forward, which is the most boring strategy on the planet but it works.

Brigitte De Lima

Management

Thank you very much. [I'm very excite-full] [ph].

Operator

Operator

Okay. May I please pass the call back to you for any closing comments at this stage?