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EZCORP, Inc. (EZPW)

Q3 2012 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 25, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the EZCORP Fiscal 2012 Third Quarter Earnings Release Conference Call. My name is Christine. I'll be your operator for today's conference. (Operator instructions) Later we will conduct an question-and-answer session. Please note today's conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Paul Rothamel, Chief Executive Officer. You may begin.

Stephen Stamp

Management

Thanks Christine. Actually, it's Stephen Stamp that's going to start the call. And good afternoon, everyone. This call will address our Third Quarter Fiscal 2012 results. We issued a press release earlier today that is available on our website, www.excorp.com. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call will contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements about our financial and operating performance in future periods. These statements are based on our current expectations. Actual results in future periods may differ materially from current expectations due to a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors which are discussed in our press release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. On the call with me today is Paul Rothamel, our President and Chief Executive Officer and Mark Kuchenrither, our Executive Vice President. I'll cover our results for the quarter and then Paul will provide some perspective before we open the lines for questions. I'll begin with our consolidated results. The third quarters record net income of $28.5 million was up 8% and diluted earnings-per-share of $0.56 were up 6%. For the nine months, net income and earnings-per-share increased 23% and 20%, respectively, on a GAAP basis and 13% and 11% on a non-GAAP basis. Compared to the prior year, our third quarter results were positively impacted by our international businesses, specifically, continued growth of Empeno Facil and the consolidation for the first time of Crediamigo and Cash Genie. At a consolidated level the big movers, in revenue terms, were jewelry scrapping sales and consumer loan fees. I'll talk about scrap and gold in particular, inside the U.S. and Canada segment discussion. The 38% in consumer loan fees to $53.5 million in the quarter was driven almost entirely by Crediamigo and Cash Genie. The two acquisitions diversify our unsecured…

Paul Rothamel

Management

Thank you Stephen and good afternoon everyone. As we enter our fourth quarter of the 2012 fiscal year, I'm very pleased with the financial performance of the company and the continued progress toward becoming a leading multi-national provider of instant cash solutions. We have continued to add stores, product, services, channels and talent to our rapidly growing portfolio of businesses. This year alone we added our 200th store in Mexico. We opened our 1,200th location on a consolidated basis, as well, and had 1,250 locations at the end of the third quarter. We began lending online in a meaningful way in the U.K. through Cash Genie. We entered the payroll withholding business in Mexico through Crediamigo and we now serve customers in nearly half of the United States, all of Mexico and the U.K., and five Canada provinces. This does not include the reach of Cash Converters to additional 20-plus countries. Crediamigo and Cash Genie along with Empeno Facil and our strategic affiliates Cash Converters and Albemarle & Bond, accounted for roughly 20% of our segment contribution in the most recent quarter compared with 9% only one year ago. Look for those segments to continue to make meaningful financial contributions over the long term as well. We have delivered strong financial metrics while deploying our capital wisely to get these things done. Strong earnings growth, returns on equity in invested capital and a conservative balance sheet with very little debt have been the cornerstones at EZ. We intend for that to continue as we grow and diversify over the coming years. Our customer, our marketplace and our industry are all evolving. There are fresh sources of capital, new players and strong global competitors all vying for the growing number of disenfranchised consumers. There are also a host of macro-economic pressures our customers are facing today that they have never seen before. We recognize that to be a leading provider in this environment we have to be experts across many products, channels and markets. We have to be nimble and recognize opportunities and marshall resources to capitalize where and when possible. And most of all, we have to listen to our customers well and often. We are doing these things today with strong, local teams across the United States, Canada, Mexico and the United Kingdom. Our business leaders and support staff are delivering record performance across and ever-widening business. We expect to get even better over time as we add more partners and experts, and new businesses in new places. With our sector expertise, our flexible business model, our growing size and scale, and our strong and balanced approach to financial metrics, we expect to provide great shareholder value for years to come. With that, we'll take your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator instructions) The first question comes from John Rowan from Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.

John Rowan

Analyst

Good afternoon, guys.

Paul Rothamel

Management

Hi, John.

Stephen Stamp

Management

Hi, John.

John Rowan

Analyst

A series of questions. First, does the tax rate stay at 30%?

Stephen Stamp

Management

The annualized rate will be 33.5%, John. We had a sort of a catch-up in the third quarter.

John Rowan

Analyst

Okay. The gain from the debt retirement in reference, is that reflected anywhere on the P&L?

Stephen Stamp

Management

It's reflected in a lower interest cost in the Latin American segment.

John Rowan

Analyst

Okay. All right. Do you have the same-store pawn loan balance?

Stephen Stamp

Management

Yes. For the U.S., it's 2% plus-2 and for Mexico, plus-8.

John Rowan

Analyst

Okay. Now, how should we look at bad debt expense? I mean, is it going to trend lower, you know, on a year-over-year basis going forward because of the Crediamigo transaction?

Paul Rothamel

Management

On a consolidated basis the answer's yes and the bad debt at Crediamigo, it's running about 6%.

Stephen Stamp

Management

The one thing you have to remember, John, from third quarter of last year, we were in Colorado and Wisconsin, we were transitioning significantly from Payroll Advance new regulatory Payroll Advance to installment loans, and our bad debt spiked on us in the third quarter and got slightly better in the fourth and much better in the first. But on a consolidated basis, the big mover is Crediamigo going forward.

John Rowan

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. All right, thank you.

Stephen Stamp

Management

Thank you, John.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bill Carcache from Nomura Securities. Please go ahead.

Bill Carcache

Analyst

Thanks. I guess first off, can we take a step back and can you give a little bit of an update on some of the commentary that you made last quarter about, you know, consumers shifting to more general merchandise collateral and away from gold collateral and the impacts that you kind of saw that having? You know, in some of the conversations that we had with other folks in the industry suggests that they weren't seeing those same trends. And so I wonder, you know, maybe now with another quarter behind us, if you can just revisit that process and then share any new perspectives that you might have?

Stephen Stamp

Management

Yes, Bill. This is Stephen. So, we tried to sort of explain last time. The dollar value of gold and jewelry inside our pawn loan balance hasn't changed a lot but if you separate out ounces and dollars-per-ounce, it has changed quite a bit. So, the number of ounces is down 17%, but that's being compensated for in increased value, such that it sort of hasn't moved the overall dollar percentage. What has changed is the amount that's dropping out of that portfolio, where the redemption rate continues to climb. There's now, as I referenced in the call, 86% and it's been moving steadily up, another 0.5% to 1% per quarter. So, what's that telling us is the gold the customers do have, they do not want to let it go. Secondly, the other source of gold dispositions, which is our purchases, continues to decline very, materially. As I've said on the call, it was near down 38% same-store this quarter. From memory, it was down 49% same-store last quarter. So, the inputs in terms of ounces continue to decline, and therefore the outputs are kind of matching those. And until we start comping these numbers, I think it's probably going to continue for another quarter or three.

Bill Carcache

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. Shifting to international growth, you mentioned in the release that 20% of your contribution was attributable to international businesses outside of the U.S. versus 9% last year. As we look forward, can you just give us a sense of what kind of growth rates we should expect? That big increase, I think, my sense is a big part of that was basically acquisition-driven. But as we look forward, the relative mix or the relative contribution from the domestic versus international businesses, can you give us some perspective on the growth there?

Paul Rothamel

Management

I think if you look at… let's talk about Empeno Facil first. You should be able to model that based on our store openings and the results that we've had. That's been a fast-growth business over the last couple years. We expect that to continue because we expect to continue the Greenfield locations down there at the same rate, or slightly accelerated than what we've done over the last couple years. We certainly didn't invest in Cash Genie and Crediamigo to slow our growth. We invested in them to diversify, number one, and then also because they are fast-growing companies. So, we would expect that those businesses would grow more rapidly than our, what I would call our more mature businesses, in the United States. Canada is very small to us today, and while we're happy with the results, I don't expect that they will move the needle, like Crediamigo, Cash Genie, and Empeno Facil will as we go into next year and the following year.

Bill Carcache

Analyst

Okay. And as far as loss rates go, we saw 24% in the U.S. and 6% in Latin America. Should we continue to expect that 6%? We don't have as much history there with the consumer loan fees in Latin America with Crediamigo. Is 6% the right kind of level to expect going forward?

Stephen Stamp

Management

Yes, Bill. I think 6% is a reasonable assumption.

Bill Carcache

Analyst

Okay, great. Then, I guess just to wrap-up, I guess the timing, Stephen, of your hedging program change was a little bit unlucky in hindsight. I guess, would you share some thoughts on whether the plan is to stick with that at this point, or would you go back? For perspective, can you just give us an idea of how much of an impact the change had this quarter, under hedges just staying under, kind of, the old model that you were following versus where we are today? Under the new approach, what kind of impact did that hedging program change have?

Stephen Stamp

Management

The collar expired worthless for this quarter. The average price throughout the quarter was put in the core of the collar, which I guess tells you it was kind of working. Had we sold the gold for it, I mean I haven't actually done that math, but my gut tells me that gold was actually pretty flat front-to-back in the quarter. I think it was sort of up and down in between the quarter, but front-to-back it was fairly flat. So, I suspect there wouldn't have been a big advantage to selling forward, but I'd have to do that math I guess.

Bill Carcache

Analyst

Okay, well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Kyle Joseph from Stephens Incorporated. Please go ahead.

Kyle Joseph

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon, guys.

Stephen Stamp

Management

Hey, Kyle.

Kyle Joseph

Analyst

Could you guys give us some more details on, Mark, I apologize, I don't want to pronounce his last name, I'd probably butcher it, on Mark's promotion, and exactly what Change Capital's responsibilities and strategies are?

Paul Rothamel

Management

We'll let Mark answer that for you.

Mark Kuchenrither

Analyst

Okay. Yes. Hi, Kyle. I would not have been offended if you butchered my name. I butcher it on a daily basis. So, it's pronounced "Kukenrither" [sic]. I'll talk about Change Capital. Change Capital is an investment arm of EZCORP, and acts as a value-added investor. And we assist local entrepreneurs with our sector expertise, operating excellence, and capital. We try to maximize their return on invested capital as partners and maximize ours as well. We differentiate ourselves through flexibility in our approach, and that enables us to be a partner with the experts. And we select the entrepreneurs because we view that they are local experts in their local markets, and they're looking for strategic help like ours to take their business to the next level. In addition to that, we offer best practices, devocation, and implementation of best practices throughout the business units inside our core businesses at EZCORP.

Kyle Joseph

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks Mark. Then, Paul, maybe you could answer this. In terms of the UK, can you give us an idea of what you're seeing there in terms of competition, as well as any potential regulatory developments? There's a story out about UK payday lenders unveiling a new industry code or practice potentially this week?

Paul Rothamel

Management

Yes. The U.K., from our view, is one of the fastest growing markets today, particularly in the non-collateralized part of the U.K. That's probably the thing you should keep in mind. We own interest obviously in both Cash Converters, who has a big presence there, which is a pawn broking presence primarily. Albemarle & Bond is a pawn broking, as well. That's actually the smallest segment of the alternative financial business over in the U.K. So, all the competitiveness you're seeing and the rate of growth is really on the non-collateralized side, and that's why we chose to jump in with Cash Genie, for all the reasons we've talked about before. It's a great marketplace. Yes, we're well aware of all of the discussions around the regulatory fronts over there. I guess I could tell you that we're comfortable and confident that Cash Genie operates in a way that we can flexibly handle whatever regulatory changes they may or may not throw at us. I think, frankly, as we said here in the United States, over time, we think we benefit from more regulatory action. Because, I think today there's over 100 online lenders in the UK. Many of them that are small, and many of them are not great players. They do things that they shouldn't be doing. So, we invite appropriate regulatory action. Through Cash Genie and through Cash Converters particularly, we're very active on the regulatory front in the U.K.

Kyle Joseph

Analyst

Okay, great, guys. Thanks for answering my questions.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions) The next question comes from Bill Armstrong from CL King & Associates. Please go ahead.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Good afternoon, guys. Back to the gold and the forfeiture rate being low, why not adjust your LTV's to get that forfeiture or redemption rate to the range that would be better for you?

Paul Rothamel

Management

We do that, Bill. We actually did get more aggressive in the marketplaces as evidenced by the 300 basis points we gave up on rate. We can argue all day if we got aggressive enough, but I can tell you that our U.S. pawn folks are all over it and managing. Obviously, we price volumes and rates, but it's just a challenging marketplace today on the volume side.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Going on another questioner earlier, who commented that competitors are not reporting the same type of experiences that you are, and that's been consistent with my conversations as well. Are your LTVs out-of-line with the rest of the market?

Paul Rothamel

Management

We don't think so. We do competitor shops all the time. We do consumer feedback, both quantitative and qualitative, so we think we're doing some of the right things. I just said, we got aggressive and we may have to get more aggressive in trying to get some volume.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Got it. Okay, thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jordan Hymowitz from Philadelphia Financial. Please go ahead.

Jordan Hymowitz

Analyst

Thanks, guys. What are the most intriguing opportunities you guys have as international? With Cash Converted, especially, you have a 33% interest, and there's been legislation more clarifying the regulatory environment over there. Is that something that's clarified, do you have an interest in taking a larger stake in as you had at one point?

Stephen Stamp

Management

I'll take a stab at that, Jordan. The legislation in Australia, as I understand it, has been promulgated, but it has not been passed yet and may not be for a while, at least until the next session of Parliament and won't come into effect until July 2013. So, there's still a reasonable amount of uncertainty around the whole deal. But I think you can be pretty assured that the Board of EZ has a watching brief, and when the time is right, may or may not do something.

Jordan Hymowitz

Analyst

Okay, but there's nothing that has changed fundamentally in their business that would make you less interested in that if regulatory clarity occurred?

Paul Rothamel

Management

No. I don't think so today, Jordan, other than you're two years removed or a year and a half removed from the original deal, so we'd have to be looking at all of it in totality.

Jordan Hymowitz

Analyst

Have they performed as well as your expectations in that intervening time period?

Paul Rothamel

Management

I think, yes. They've been within the... I can't say anything publicly other than what they've said themselves, but I think they've performed in line with expectations, yes.

Jordan Hymowitz

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bob Ramsey from Friedman Billings Ramsey. Please go ahead.

Bob Ramsey

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon. I apologize if I missed this earlier, but I was curious with your earnings guidance what that incorporates in terms of gold scrapping margin and volume from this quarter forward?

Stephen Stamp

Management

It assumes a continuation of current trends.

Bob Ramsey

Analyst

So, narrower margins and less volume?

Stephen Stamp

Management

Yes.

Bob Ramsey

Analyst

Okay, but you don't want to quantify it?

Stephen Stamp

Management

Not really, because those two things are somewhat interrelated as Paul was just talking about. You can buy volumes to some extent.

Bob Ramsey

Analyst

Yes. Okay. All right, thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bill Armstrong from CL King & Associates. Please go ahead.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Oh, thanks. I had a second question and I forgot to ask before. That was, there is a bill in the House that is fairly new, the House of Representatives that is, that would put in federal regulations that in some cases could supersede state regulations for short-term unsecured loans. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that bill, if this is something that if it passed you would view favorably or not?

Paul Rothamel

Management

No. It's early in the process and we're following it through our lobbyists and through our association. We're just keeping an eye on it. Frankly, our preference, and I know there's some other discussion out there right now, but EZCORP's preference is state's rights. As complicated as that can be sometimes, we'd prefer the federal government leave it up to the states.

Bill Armstrong

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

That concludes the question-and-answer session for today. Please go ahead with any final remarks.

Paul Rothamel

Management

Thank you for your interest and we look forward to talking to you on our year-end call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for participating in the EZCORP Fiscal 2012 Third Quarter Earnings Release Conference Call. This concludes the conference for today. You may all disconnect at this time.