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Ford Motor Company (F)
Q2 2008 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 25, 2008
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Operator
Operator
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Lillian Etzkorn
Management
Thank you Katina and good morning ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to all of you who are joining us either by phone or web cast. On behalf of the entire Ford management team, I would like to thank you for spending time with us this morning. With me this morning are Alan Mulally, President and CEO, and Don Leclair, Chief Financial Officer and Mark Fields Executive Vice President and President, The America. Also in the room are Peter Daniel, Senior Vice President and Controller, Neil Schloss, Vice President and Treasurer, and Mark Hoffman, Director of Accounting and K.R. Kent, Ford Credit, CFO. Before we begin, I would like to review a couple of quick items. Copies of this morning’s earnings release and the slides that we will be using today have been posted on Ford’s Investors relations and media web site and financial results discussed herein are presented on a preliminary basis. Final data will be included in our Form 10-Q for the second quarter. Additionally the financial results presented here are on a GAAP basis, and in some cases on a non-GAAP basis. The non-GAAP financial measures discussed in this call are reconciled to their GAAP equivalent as part of the appendix to this live cast. Finally, today’s presentation includes some forward-looking statements about our expectations for Ford’s future performance. Actual results could differ materially from those suggested by our comments here. Additional information about the factors that could affect future results, are summarized at the end of this presentation. This risk factors are also detailed in our SEC Fillings, including our annual, quarterly and current reports to the SEC’s. With that, I would like to turn the presentation over to Alan Mulally, Ford’s President and CEO.
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Thanks Lillian and good morning. As we all know, the last quarter has certainly been a challenging one for the entire automobile industry. Because of deteriorating economic conditions, demand has declined substantially particularly in North America. At the same time, fuel and commodity prices have increased substantially. As a result, there has been a significant shift away from large pickup trucks and traditional SUVs in North America. The progress we had made of working together to create One Ford global enterprise during the last two years, however gives us opportunities in today’s environment. We were the stronger business in Denver to leverage Ford’s global assets and continue to address the pressure facing us in North America. We also are building on the past few years of progress, in substantially improving our quality and our entire cost structure introducing strong new products. I will start off this presentation briefly by providing you with an overview of last quarter’s results and accomplishments. Don will take us through the details and provide an outlook on the rest of 2008. Mark Fields also is here today with us. And he will provide you with a summary of significant actions we are taking to accelerate the transformation of our business in North America to respond to this rapidly changing environment. I’ll then come back and summarize how continuing execution of our plan will allow us to adapt to this challenges and will position us as a lean global enterprise as profitable and growing. As I am sure you have noticed, we have two press releases this morning. One for our financial results and one for our plans in North America. I will begin by reviewing the key financial results for the second quarter on the slide three. During the second quarter we completed sales of…
Dona Leclair
Management
Thanks, Alan. Let us move on to slide seven, provides more information on our second quarter. And starting at the lower left, our net loss for the second quarter was 8.7 billion and this included 444,000,000 of tax benefits more than explained by an adjustment for accounting standard number 109 related to our differed tax asset evaluation allowance. Our net income included a net tax credit as well as minority interest in profitable affiliates. Adjusting for these items lease a second quarter of pre-tax loss of about nine billion. That included pre-tax charges for special items of over 8 billion to a cover on the next several slides and excluding these special items, we ended up with a second quarter pre-tax operating loss of $1 billion. Now on slide eight. This covers our special items in the second quarter. This page covers the 426 million of pre-tax charges excluding the impairments. We recorded a charge of 274,000,000 associated with personnel separation programs in North America largely related to the hourly programs in the U.S. In addition, there was a gain of 100 million for OPEB related to the North American hourly separation programs and we recognize the charge of 303 million primarily associated with the sale of our ACH glass operation during the second quarter. The 75 million for Jaguar Land Rover reflects an operating profit through the closing date of June 2nd partly offset by a loss on sale. Slide nine provides details on the Aston impairments, which in total represent a non-cash pre-tax charge of 7.6 billion. And these charges have no impact on our credit lines and our access to our credit lines or overall liquidity. The pronounced shift in consumer preferences away from full size pickup trucks and traditional SUVs toward more smaller, more fuel efficient…
Mark Fields
Management
Thanks Don. If you go to slide 34 as Don and Alan already mentioned, external conditions in North America have changed dramatically in a very short period of time. And while this presents a significant challenge, we also believe that we are uniquely positioned to respond to the new environment in which we expect to operate in the years ahead. In combination with the business improvements achieved over the past two and a half years, we expect the One Ford product development vision and process to enable us to deliver a range of highly acclaimed smaller vehicles in what we call global segment. That is the B, C, CD and commercial van segments beginning in the middle of next year. At 2010 over 40% of our entries in North America in these segments will be shared with Ford of Europe and that is platform and top hats. With 100% of the line up in those segments shared with Ford of Europe by 2013. This compares with nothing in common today. And every new product we introduce, not only those in the global segment, but also those will regional offers only will provide fuel economy that will be the best or among the best against facing competitors. And this will be supported by the most extensive power train upgrade ever for the company with nearly all of Ford's North America engines upgraded or replaced by the end of 2010. Plus nearly all of Ford’s North American lineup will offer fuel saving 6V automatic transmissions within two years. Our new product will be assembled in plants featuring lean manufacturing techniques and in nearly all facilities flexible body shops will make them competitive with the best in business in North America. And many of our power trains will go in plants that can…
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Very good. Thank you very much Mark. Turning to slide 45, summarizes the key aspects of our plan, we remain committed to the plan and continue to make progress despite a very difficult eternal environment, particularly in North America. We continue taking decisive action response to the rapidly changing business environment. We are pleased that we went to the capital markets at the right time to obtain liquidity to finance our plans. And I am especially pleased with how the team is working together to create One Ford and leverage our global resources. Despite the present dislocations in the industry in North America, I believer that Ford is uniquely positioned to take advantage of our scale and global product strengths to bring to the North America market more smaller fuel efficient products that people increasingly want and value and to bring them here quickly. With a balanced portfolio of vehicles and a sharp focus on the Ford blue oval brand across the globe we can effectively operate through the current downturn and begin the grow profitably as a global economy rebounds. Looking ahead, on slide 46, we are accelerating our product and production transformation in response to the significant changes and opportunities in our business environment. We have made progress by working together to create a One Ford global enterprise during the past two years. That enables us to leverage Ford’s global product line to address the pressures and the opportunities we have in North America. And in turn, the add volume from the North American market will add greater sale to our already profitable operations overseas. We are building upon our One Ford product lineup, by economizing products and sharing vehicle platforms across the globe. Within the next five years, we will build more than one million vehicles a…
Lillian Etzkorn
Management
Thank you, Alan. Ladies and gentlemen, you are going to start the Q&A session now. We have about 50 minutes for questions. We will begin with questions from the investment community and then take questions from the media who are also on the call. In order to allow many questions as possible within our time frame, I ask that you keep your questions brief so that we do not have to move caller along after a couple of minutes. So with that Katina, can we please have the first question?
Operator
Operator
(Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from the line of Himanshu Patel representing J.P. Morgan. Please proceed.
Himanshu Patel - J.P. Morgan
Analyst
Hi. A couple of questions. On the lease residual write down, how did the accounting rules behind that work? Are you allowed to account for a future residual value reductions that you may anticipate or does this write down simply reflect the deterioration we have seen on used prices to date?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
We did the impairment on the Ford Credit lease portfolio pretty much the same way we did the impairment on the fixed assets in North America. We looked at the cash flows that we think those assets will generate. So what we did is we made a forecast of auction values going forward and it is largely based on what we have seen to date. And we just took that and discounted it back and discounted it back and compared it to the book value of those assets.
Himanshu Patel - J.P. Morgan
Analyst
So if there is any further deterioration in pickup truck and SUV residuals from today’s starting point, would that mean there is additional write-downs coming?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
There would have to be a large further deterioration for us to have any changes to that. And just for clarity, we did that impairment by vehicle line in the US and Canada and about 85% of that total change of 2.1 billion was on full size pickups and traditional SUVs.
Himanshu Patel - J.P. Morgan
Analyst
Okay. And then number two, Don you mentioned there was a temporary timing issue with the $1.5 billion of cash out flow from working capital, can you elaborate on that?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Yes. Of that 1.5 about 1.2 billion of it is inventory. And what really has happened is the world is changing rapidly as we have talked about the last couple of times we have gotten together. And we have been trying very hard to stay up to date and as the production schedules have changed quickly we actually had to carry a little bit more extra company inventory at the end of the second quarter. And so all of that inventory in fact by now has been shipped to dealers. And that is what I meant its temporary in nature. The results of a small affect on accounts payable just because of the down time that we had in some of our plants in North America at the end of the second quarter that contributed to that and we think that also will be temporary in nature.
Himanshu Patel - J.P. Morgan
Analyst
Okay, two last questions the three plants that are being converted from trucks to cars, anywhere you could give us some rough sense of the incremental cost of doing that?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Well let me start off on and then Mark can add. But the cost of converting a plant is mainly in the area of the body shop. And I would say about a quarter of a billion dollars is about what it takes to completely redo a body shop with a fully flexible system. And a part of that is incremental. Now it would not be fully incremental if we were going to take a truck plant that was not flexible and make it flexible. We would have to spend a large part of that anyway, so it depends what you are comparing it to but suffice as to say that it is all in our plan and it is contained in our cash flows and profits going forward.
Himanshu Patel - J.P. Morgan
Analyst
Okay, and then one last question on the full commodity cost issue relative to the last period of steel inflation that we saw a few years ago. What are your thoughts on helping suppliers during this inflationary cycle? Would you just directionally without giving any numbers, do you think more of the cost burden is going to be shared by the suppliers or with the -OEs or do you think some of this actually is going to end up with the consumer?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Well I think that that really remains to be seen. I mean thus far I think the manufactures and the suppliers have bore most of that. You have seen in the pricing that we discussed and just how long that can go and as I said remains to be seen. We are very cognizant of the health of our supply base and we work with our suppliers and try to do what we think is the right thing. And that is probably as much as we should go into now if that is okay.
Himanshu Patel - J.P. Morgan
Analyst
Fine, thank you.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
You bet.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed.
Chris Ceraso - Credit Suisse
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Thanks good morning, I guess two items. First on the capacity changes and in particular the power trains such an accelerated change and concentrated change in power train seems like it would be very expensive. Can you just outline for us your expected CapEx budget of ’08 ’09 and ’10?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Let me try on that one and just at a very high level. I think that our capital expenditures will be, corporately, will be at or maybe a little higher than $6 billion range going forward. And that contains the power train investments that Mark mentioned, the flexibility in the body shops that Mark mentioned as well as the new products. So what you are seeing is a couple of things is a kind of a bubble that we are going to go through because of the change over of the truck to the car plants and the body shop flexibility and the power trains and the flexibility there. But early on through that we are going to see cost savings because of the economies of scale that we are getting as we develop more and more vehicle types of a fewer and fewer platforms.
Chris Ceraso - Credit Suisse
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Okay second question, maybe you can help us boil down the change in North American production capacity if we use let us say 2007 as a starting point. What do you think is the incremental or the sort of a net change in car capacity and truck capacity by 2010?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Well I do not think we are going to go into that right now. I think the best way to think about that is that our plan in the near term is to get our managed capacity equal to our current dealer demand. And we have taken a lot of action, we outlined some today. And Mark and Alan outlined some earlier on our call in May and our press release in June. And we are going work very quickly to get our capacity--manned capacity down and then overtime realign our capacity on a more permanent basis.
Chris Ceraso - Credit Suisse
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Okay any updates to the cash burn target? I think of as May it was 14 to 16 billion?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Yes, that is right. In May we said it was 14 to 16. And then June we said it would be more than 16 and given the volatility in the market place right now, we are not going to provide any more detail other than that.
Chris Ceraso - Credit Suisse
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Okay. Thank you very much.
Operator
Operator
The next question will come the line of John Murphy representing Merrill Lynch, please proceed.
John Murphy
Analyst
Good morning. In this product shift which makes a tremendous amount of sense, I think it is a very good action to be taking here. If we think about the profitability of this small vehicles verses the vehicles that they are replacing, larger SUVs and trucks, I was wondering if you help us with the profitability in general, including there is differentials there. But also the fact that you are going to be leveraging global platforms in the economic skill. How much of an offset is there in our standard thinking of the negative mix shift, but also the very positive impact of leveraging in the global platforms?
Merrill Lynch
Analyst
Good morning. In this product shift which makes a tremendous amount of sense, I think it is a very good action to be taking here. If we think about the profitability of this small vehicles verses the vehicles that they are replacing, larger SUVs and trucks, I was wondering if you help us with the profitability in general, including there is differentials there. But also the fact that you are going to be leveraging global platforms in the economic skill. How much of an offset is there in our standard thinking of the negative mix shift, but also the very positive impact of leveraging in the global platforms?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
You bet John. I think you really, you summarized it very well. We are very encouraged by our experience with the smaller and medium size vehicles around the world especially Europe. Because clearly with the fuel prices been higher than the United States, we have had some great experience restructuring that business, and restructuring the product line to make the vehicles that people really do want and value. And so a piece of that, like you said is that with the smaller vehicles, of more capable vehicles, of more features that people want and especially economy, they do value those neat vehicles. So there is a revenue side piece of that, but then as you clearly understand, as we move to the global platforms because requirements now are on the fuel efficiency side, on the safety side, and what people want is those requirements come together around the world and we can really accelerate this movement to our global platforms. And those numbers are have units to go in the B platforms, and the C and the CD are just staggering when you move up to a million units on the a model and two million units on a model. And of course, at the same time we are aligning our supply base with our aligned business framework and the parts starts to come together in the commonization on the details all the way up to the platforms. I think it is not only going to drive continued improvement in quality, but tremendous improvement are in productivity in a reduction cost. So you add both of those together and I think it is a different business model. And with the UAW transformational agreement that we have now in United States that significant improves our competitiveness, we believe that we can make a very reasonable return on all of our vehicles starting the ones in the Untied States. Mark, anything else you want to add?
Mark Fields
Management
No.
John Murphy
Analyst
Just on due to the rationalization that you alluded to that is coming in more earnest next year. What should we expect there? Is there going to be fewer rooftops in the same number of franchisers how have more Ford Lincoln Mercury dealers. If you can just help us out with that, a little bit in what might be the incremental cost of that rationalization?
Merrill Lynch
Analyst
Just on due to the rationalization that you alluded to that is coming in more earnest next year. What should we expect there? Is there going to be fewer rooftops in the same number of franchisers how have more Ford Lincoln Mercury dealers. If you can just help us out with that, a little bit in what might be the incremental cost of that rationalization?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Sure. Our plan has been to improve the throughput and the profitability over our distribution network. And as we all know we have a tremendous distribution network and set of dealers. Clearly, with what has happened over the last few years we have over capacity and we have talked about it, and we work it together regularly. And we have been making great progress consolidating our dealer network. And now you will see all forms of that. That is one reason that Ford Lincoln Mercury going forward as a centerpiece of our product line is so important because it includes everybody. But also enables us to consolidate together. So we are going to continue that and we are going to broaden it. We are going to really focus on the areas where we have the over capacity and from a financial point of view, we try to work it dealer by dealer together where it makes economic sense to them and us. But clearly, our plan is to improve their throughput in their profitability.
John Murphy
Analyst
Thank you.
Merrill Lynch
Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed.
Brian Johnson -
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Good morning. A few questions around the product initiatives. First, the Fiesta I will assuming that that is the platform we saw at the Auto show and it is going on sale in Europe I believe next year. Is that correct? The focus, is that the current focus line up in Europe or is that going to be new generation in both continents?
Lehman Brothers
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Good morning. A few questions around the product initiatives. First, the Fiesta I will assuming that that is the platform we saw at the Auto show and it is going on sale in Europe I believe next year. Is that correct? The focus, is that the current focus line up in Europe or is that going to be new generation in both continents?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Yes. One clarification on your comment about the Fiesta, we introduced that in Europe and then into China this year, and then it come in the United States in 2007, 2010. And that is exactly the one that everybody saw, which everybody is really gratified about that we kept with that spectacular design and capability in fuel efficiency. On the Focus size, was it Focus size? Going forward, those clearly will come together on a new global platform. But for right now both of them are doing very well so that is something that will come together in the future.
Brian Johnson -
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
So is the coming together the 2010 version that we are marketing here or is the 2007 version.
Lehman Brothers
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
So is the coming together the 2010 version that we are marketing here or is the 2007 version.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Absolutely, absolutely.
Brian Johnson -
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Okay. Second, what are the bottlenecks or what are the hindering factors to not having either these cars on the market next spring or summer in North America? Given the Fiestas going on sale this year in Europe, given the Focus is 2010, could either of those cars be accelerated into North America in 2009 and if not what is the bottleneck?
Lehman Brothers
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Okay. Second, what are the bottlenecks or what are the hindering factors to not having either these cars on the market next spring or summer in North America? Given the Fiestas going on sale this year in Europe, given the Focus is 2010, could either of those cars be accelerated into North America in 2009 and if not what is the bottleneck?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
I understand. Just taking Fiesta for example, the critical path on bringing the Fiesta to North America is to change the design for the special kind of unique emissions and safety requirements in the United States. And so that sets the timing for bringing it in to the United States because we just had not included that, those design features in the original design. But the rest of the vehicle is supportive of all the rest of the worlds markets. On the first part of your question is that our first move is going to be to increase the production on the current Focus that we are making here to get the maximum amount of vehicles that we can to the market as quickly as we can. And as Mark pointed out, that is the key element of the first change over from the track to automobile production is to get our Focus, which is selling very, very well to get that production off as quickly as we can. Then we will augment that with the new smaller vehicles out of Europe.
Brian Johnson -
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
And does that Michigan truck could be producing current Focus in ’09?
Lehman Brothers
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
And does that Michigan truck could be producing current Focus in ’09?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Oh no. It will switch over when we switch over.
Brian Johnson -
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Okay. And the final question which is more of a strategic organization one is what is this implied for the role of the US or white-collar salaried organization? And you know the extreme if you are saying why would the US head count outside of manufacturing be much greater in the car area than for example for a Volkswagen which is largely imported and soon to be built here? Or a Nissan or a Toyota US?
Lehman Brothers
Analyst · Brian Johnson representing Lehman and Brothers. Please proceed
Okay. And the final question which is more of a strategic organization one is what is this implied for the role of the US or white-collar salaried organization? And you know the extreme if you are saying why would the US head count outside of manufacturing be much greater in the car area than for example for a Volkswagen which is largely imported and soon to be built here? Or a Nissan or a Toyota US?
Mark Fields
Management
I think from that standpoint what Derrick Kusak has done with the engineering team is as we have talked about in the past is really a divvy up engineering responsibilities around the world. And as we have taken our last reduction of about 15%, that positions us very well from an engineering stand point to support different products around the world. Clearly here in the U.S. for example, some of the regional products like our trucks and crossover utilities, a lot of engineering support. So we think after we go through these adoptions, we are appropriately sized to support all our engineering requirements not only here in the U.S. but around the world.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Good morning everyone. Alan you made a statement about restructuring to be profitable at current demand and changing model mix. I was hoping you can elaborate on that. Are you saying profitable by certain dates and what are the underlying assumptions behind that is it a 14 million unit market in a 14% share? And may be also what you car truck mix would be expected to be?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
You bet. Clearly, with the speed in which the market is changing we had to move off of our goal to be profitable in 2009. But I think with the actions we have in place on the product and the restructuring on the manufacturing that we will be almost perfectly time just when the market starts to come back. Our assumption on that in the U.S. was that the U.S. economy would start to recover not in ’09 but in early ’10 so it sis somewhere in that time period.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Okay. So north of 14 million but still 14% market share, is that right?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Yes. We assume it will start to come back and also another point that Mark made that clearly the big trucks have come the full size pickups have come down dramatically. But we also are assuming that that is going to rebound. It is not going to get back to the levels that we have had in the past but that it will come back a little bit also.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Okay and the car truck mix in that time frame how different?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Substantially more cars and utilities.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Is there a number that you can give us on what kind of incremental savings you need to achieve beyond the five billion in order to get to that profitability in that time frame?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
No, but as we have talked about it in the past our plan is to continue our improvement in productivity and reducing our cost with all of these actions year-over-year forever.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Okay and just the lastly, when I do the math on average transaction prices it looks like North America is down a few thousand dollars on year-over-year basis. It is now well below where Europe is on an average transaction price basis. Is the average transaction price a big factor behind the better profitability in Europe? And if that is right then would you have to charge more for your new products to get the average transaction prices up in order to get the same kind of results that you are getting in Europe?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
I think you are right, our average transaction prices during the quarter were down I do not recall that they were actually lower than Ford of Europe’s given we still have a mix of trucks in crossovers. But in terms of transaction prices going forward as it relates to the profitability of the smaller vehicles, we are actually starting to prove today we can actually move the transaction price up. Our current focus that actually gained about a little bit two points a segment share in the last quarter. And we were actually able to improve our transaction our net revenue by about a little over $1000 a unit. So as we go forward in addition to the things that Alan mentioned, is really work on fully competitive revenues and we have experienced that as Alan mentioned with our products in Europe, the benefits from the cost, the benefits from the quality, the dealer consolidation. So we are starting to prove that we can do it today but clearly as we shift to the global products it really helps turbo charge our ability to make money on those products and realize higher transaction prices.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
So your assumption is transaction prices improve with the new products coming in?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Yes.
Rod Lache - Deutsche Bank Securities
Analyst · Rod Lache representing Deutsche Bank. Please proceed
Great. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
The next question will come from the line of Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Hi, yes good morning?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Good morning.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
On slide 40, I might have missed this, but there three trucks assembly plants that you are converting in December. Are those going to be able to add to production largely for the 2009 model year or is that just kind of a more gradual transition?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
You are speaking about our Michigan truck and Kentucky truck?
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
That is correct. Yes which you are converting over I guess beginning December.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Yes, we will begin, as we mentioned in the comments, to convert Michigan truck over. We will have the opportunity if market conditions exist that will be able, for example, to provide some additional Focus production by utilizing the body shop that we have over at Michigan truck. But right now, we will have to take a look at what happens in 2009 and the market place. And if we see the opportunity we will go after that. Same thing applies for down in Kentucky truck as we move our Explorer and our Navigator. We will have to see how marketing conditions go and we will be able to flex accordingly.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Okay thanks. And were there in general I guess moving to commodities, I guess two things. Number one, were there any kind of hedging gains that were part of the results for this quarter?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
No, there was very little in the second quarter because most of that is mark to market, so we reflected the gains in the first quarter.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Okay and then you are clearly expecting commodities to ramp up in terms of their head wind in the back half. Can you give us a little bit of a sense or remind us of when those contracts get reprised, is it at the end of December? And if many of the materials that buy track where they are tracking would we expect to see kind of a step change in that number upwards again for 2009?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Well we have contracts. And I think the main thing to think about is steel. And the contracts that end mainly at the middle the year at the end of the year and it varies by operation. And we will see a step-up in the second half of this year. And we will see a step up gain next year. And again the second half of next year, unless prices come down. Our forecast is steel prices in particular will remain high for a while. That is just based on the current outlook and projections.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Any chance you could give us a sense of what the incremental increase has been for the one year contract that you renewed towards the middle of the year?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Well, I think if you look on slide 18, you can get a sense from looking at our projections. Look at the first half for commodities, compare that to the second half. There is a step change there and there will be a similar change in January of next year.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Okay, that is helpful. And I guess just lastly on the gain on sale of your Nordic operations for FMCC that was included in the results, can you just give us a sense of how much that was?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
It was about 85 million.
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Okay. And then I guess the last one is just a housekeeping. The 14 million to 14 ½ million saw expectation for this year. I heard you correctly that includes heavy so, in a light basis that would be something like 13.7 or 14.2.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Exactly
Patrick Archambault - Goldman Sachs
Analyst · Patrick Archambault representing Goldman Sachs, please proceed
Okay. Great, thanks a lot.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line Itay Michaeli representing Citi, please proceed. Itay Michaeli – Citi: Great. Good morning. Just some follow up balance sheet cash flow questions. Don you mentioned that the charges did not impact the availability in your credit facilities. But can you refresh us on where the other borrowing base calculation was at the end of the quarter? I believe it was about $22 billion at the end of the year, just trying to assess the cushion there.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
Yes, it is about the same as it was at the end of the year actually. Itay Michaeli – Citi: Okay great. Alan, just a kind a long-term question, sounds like a lot of good things are happening in 2010, from product perspective and perspective economic recovery. What prevents you from targeting profitability officially for 2010, is it fixed course commodity pricing or some combination. How would you rank some of the challenges between those three that we mentioned or potentially, something I have not mentioned?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Just the uncertainty and it’s just so volatile right now that we thought the best thing that we can do is really focus on what we are doing on the product side, what we are doing on the production side, which will clearly position us for long term profitable growth. Itay Michaeli – Citi: Great. And then just final question. Were there any payments from Ford to FMCC for profit maintenance in the quarter and would you expect through the balance of the year?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
No, there were not any and we would expect to have none through the balance of the year. Itay Michaeli – Citi: Great thanks a lot.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Mark Warnsman representing Calyon. Please proceed.
Mark Warnsman - Calyon
Analyst · Mark Warnsman representing Calyon. Please proceed
I wonder if we could return to slide 46 and specifically talk about holidays in a global platforms and the single platform. My question is what constitutes a common platform? And as you commonize, how do you strike that balance so that you do not end up with a vehicle that sells well in the middle of Atlantic but not neither the U.S. or Europe?
Mark Fields
Management
Hi Mark, this is Mark. Very simply a common platform we are defining is just the underpinnings of the vehicles are all the same. Obviously, it includes the chassis, the suspension, the hard points. And clearly as we go forward from a global standpoint we want to make sure those are consistent because then we have the benefits around the scale, material cost but also the flexibility to save investments on touring around the world.
Mark Warnsman - Calyon
Analyst · Mark Warnsman representing Calyon. Please proceed
So, should we anticipate European right in handling here in the U.S.? It seems like chassis, those chassis components in particular are areas where there has been different the markets. Is the company reconciled now or around the common standards globally.
Mark Fields
Management
Mark, you bet. And I think that the thing that is really enabling this to happen is that the fundamental requirements for the vehicle design are coalescing around the world from a fuel efficiency point of view, what the customers want, from a safety point of view, from a regulatory point of view. That is allowing us to have fundamentally common designs on the most fundamental parts of the vehicles. And then we tailor those top halfs to the unique customer wants and needs. But it is a great opportunity for us because the core lessons of the requirements.
Mark Warnsman - Calyon.
Analyst · Mark Warnsman representing Calyon. Please proceed
Do you anticipate that Ford will be more active in trying to get some of the regulatory differences between markets common type?
Mark Fields
Management
Absolutely, because this is good for everybody. It is good for the regulators and it is tremendous for the automobile companies.
Mark Warnsman - Calyon.
Analyst · Mark Warnsman representing Calyon. Please proceed
Okay. Thank you.
Mark Fields
Management
You bet.
Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen we would now like to welcome questions from the media community. Our first question comes from the line of Bryce Hartman representing Detroit News. Please proceed.
Mark Fields
Management
Bryce? Are you in your Model T?
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
Can you hear me?
Mark Fields
Management
Yes, we can hear you now. Yes.
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
Sorry about that. Does the $200 million last marketing spend reflect lower incentive spending?
Mark Fields
Management
No. That really refers to the advertising in the sales promotion. That has been something we have been working on to make more focused and tailored. And that is one thing, the changed incentives we include that in our net pricing calculation.
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
And what has happened with incentives, are they up year-over-year?
Mark Fields
Management
Yes they are.
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
Great. Also just another point of clarification, were you saying that the transaction price on the Focus is up about $1000 year-over-year?
Mark Fields
Management
Yes.
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
And how much of that is due to synch?
Mark Fields
Management
It is a portion of it. Clearly, the customers are recognizing the value and they are willing to pay for it.
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
And final quick question, why is the sale of ECH facility result in a negative?
Mark Fields
Management
Well, simply put we had it on the books for more than we were able to sell it for.
Bryce Hartman - Detroit News
Analyst
Got you. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Jeff Bennett representing Dow Jones Newswires. Please proceed.
Jeff Bennett - Dow Jones Newswires
Analyst · Jeff Bennett representing Dow Jones Newswires. Please proceed
Morning. Alan and Mark are you looking at perhaps having to even to push the launch of the F-150 back a little bit further given that dealers still have so much inventory on their lap?
Mark Fields
Management
At this point as we mentioned the reason we adjusted the launch was to make sure that we had already sold down on the inventory so we can get the inventory down to the level that makes sense to launch the new vehicle while you are not out obviously heavily promoting the old model. So, no we are in really good shape we expect to achieve the inventory levels that we targeted for the end of the year and obviously we will continue to monitor the situation, but July is actually going a bit better that we expected.
Jeff Bennett - Dow Jones Newswires
Analyst · Jeff Bennett representing Dow Jones Newswires. Please proceed
And Don I just wanted to followup with you again given that you are going to have to buy out workers, pay VIVA, convert plans, consolidate dealers and you have debt. Again, why do you think that you do not need any additional liquidity?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Jeff Bennett representing Dow Jones Newswires. Please proceed
We have long been working at making sure we had sufficient liquidity. We sold Hertz, we sold Aston Martin and Jaguar Land Rover. We raised some money all to support having the capital to do this plan and make sure we have sufficient cash and liquidity. At the time that we did the big secured financing at the end of 2006, we did a considerable amount of stress testing that we have talked about. And we really have created for ourselves what we thought was a very difficult situation and to test whether we can get through the plan and a severe down turn and other stresses. And clearly, we are in a difficult situation now. And we are using a portion of that liquidity as we go through this but we do not see any need for anything right now.
Jeff Bennett - Dow Jones Newswires
Analyst · Jeff Bennett representing Dow Jones Newswires. Please proceed
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Thanks. Good morning.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Hi, Amy.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Hi. I wanted to ask on the notion of returning to profitability, is returning to profitability in 2010, do you even see as a possibility right now? Or is the uncertainty that you spoke of to that address beyond 2010?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
I think, Amy, it really goes with the economy both with the United States and worldwide. And that is the volatility that we are primarily looking at but because you know, our fortunes are so tied to that. But as we have talked about the actions we are taking on the product and the actions we are taking on the production system and with the kind of conservative estimate that the US economy is not going to start to recover until early 2010. I think it all kind of comes together around that time period.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
So it is a possibility for 2010 you just do not want to say right now that you are planning?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Well again it goes with the possibility of what the economy does, it really goes with the economy I think.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Okay, and then I wanted to ask on the two vehicles that you mentioned, the new small car for Mercury and the white space vehicle. Can you say is the Mercury B or C segment and is the white space vehicle B or C segment?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
I think there will small cars, Amy, and we will look forward to kind of giving you the details of those products when we come closer to the launch.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Okay you are not going to break down in define the segment today?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
They will be small, they will be B or C car.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Okay, and then I just also wanted to ask, a lot of the things that you announced today some of them you had already announced and talked about previously. And some of the items had been reported about even before gasoline has $4.00 a gallon. And then certainly not all of it I mean there is a lot of it that is new today. But I was wondering if you could just kind of break it down and talk a little bit about what specific parts of the plan that you announced today really kicked into gear or you really started thinking about anew when gasoline had $4.00 a gallon and you saw the markets shift so rapidly. If you can specifically mention some of the production shifts or did the number of plants that you were going to convert over to that increase beyond what you had previously planned. If you could just talk about and kind of detail for that a little bit for us.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Sure, you know Amy I really think that we really started this a couple of years ago and that we knew that we were clearly focused on larger trucks and SUVs in United States. But we are also clearly focused on really meet smaller and medium sized cars and utilities around the world. And it was just clear to us to having a balance portfolio in United States to leverage our global assets and bring that to bear with One Ford was clearly going to be the foundation of our transformation of Ford. But as you pointed out as the fuel prices went through that three, $43-50 per gallon and no one knew in that kind of tipping point would be in the consumer’s mind. But when we started to see that rapid movement by the consumers up from the bigger trucks and SUVs over the cars we wanted we decided then what we think about fuel prices going forward and staying up relatively higher that it was time to aggressively accelerate our transformation. But the neat thing is, as you well know, is that we have these assets worldwide and so we have the ability to accelerates it. And today I think you see so much more of the plan, the acceleration of the product plan but also the acceleration of the production system to increase the production of the smaller fuel-efficient cars that we have today. But also the transformation that production system to include all the new vehicles from around the world. And another key part, that we all worked together was the new agreement with the UAW which gives us the opportunity to be able to transform these production facilities and actually make the smaller vehicles in the United States and make them profitably so we can keep investing in the business. So I think it is all three or four of those pieces that have come together that we are announcing today.
Amy Wilson - Automotive News
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Specifically though is this like extending the Ranger and the plan with Michigan truck and the new small car from Mercury and the new space phase vehicles, I’m just wondering are those all examples of specific things that only came together in the last few weeks as you are reworking your plan in response to $4.00 a gallon.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Amy Wilson representing Automotive News. Please proceed
Well clearly the accelerating factor--sounds like a car term--the accelerating factor was the rapid increase in the fuel prices because we had all of these the only thing we could do. But clearly, we wanted to use all of them, just like the Ranger that you referenced. It is a great small pickup and that is what we use with extending their production. So the real catalyst recently has been the fundamental change in the fuel pricing.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Jerri Downs representing the Louisville Courier Journal. Please proceed.
Jerri Downs - Louisville Courier Journal
Analyst · Jerri Downs representing the Louisville Courier Journal. Please proceed
Morning fellas. I think I could get a trip to Europe out of this call, because I saw that in 2000, you did a major restructuring in Europe. So if you could comment briefly on that. And then talk a little bit more about if the economy improves how you could accelerate that fluidity you talked about, Mr. Fields, in terms of Michigan trucks and down here?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
Well, let me start off, we will talk a little bit about Europe because you are absolutely right, in 2000 we did start a restructuring in Europe. And we first off went through and realigned our capacity and then we accelerated the growth of new products. And we have been working at that for a while and we are seen for the last three or four years now, the European results improved, we became profitable and now are earning pretty good returns in the first half of this year in Europe. We think that is a really good thing for us to know we can do that. In fact we did the same thing in South America, in case you are planning a trip to South America. And now, I will turn it back to Mark.
Mark Fields
Management
Algeria is part of our cost containment, we will have to take that request on board, but could you just restate your second part of your question?
Jerri Downs - Louisville Courier Journal
Analyst · Jerri Downs representing the Louisville Courier Journal. Please proceed
Absolutely, please talk more about flexing production in 2009 if market condition improves at Kentucky truck and Michigan truck. What could you do exactly, what kind of market uptick would precipitate that kind of acceleration?
Mark Fields
Management
Well, clearly what it would require is, we have some initial forecast for the industry next year, clearly we would have to overachieve on that. And I think in terms of the flexibility, clearly in Michigan truck we already do have a flexible body shop. So if the requirement for Focus do increase even more, we have the ability to use the body shop at Michigan truck because the bottom like if you will, at the Wayne assembling plant is the body shop which we are only running at three shifts. We would be able to that. And down in Kentucky truck obviously once we get the Navigator and the Expedition down there, clearly the requirements for next year will have to look at the market of requirements. But between that and obviously the requirements for the super duty we will be able to flex within the plant appropriately to see where the market goes.
Jerri Downs - Louisville Courier Journal
Analyst · Jerri Downs representing the Louisville Courier Journal. Please proceed
What about the Explorer, would that be a C or a CD platform, the new Explorer?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
We will talk about that more towards when we are ready to get in to more detail about the product, but clearly what’s going to be more important is provide the functionality in the space that our customers are expecting value.
Jerri Downs - Louisville Courier Journal
Analyst · Jerri Downs representing the Louisville Courier Journal. Please proceed
And finally, we have not talked a lot about things getting much worse. You are assuming $14 million SAR, but it seems like we are going down ward, but not much upper movement yet. What if things get worse?
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
As Don mentioned earlier, when we laid out the original plan, and then the financing of the plant we stress tested the environment pretty heavily. And so when we went to the markets in we raised our cash, we took into account really stress in the market. I think we have sufficient liquidity going for toward the plan.
Don Leclair
Analyst · Jerri Downs representing the Louisville Courier Journal. Please proceed
I might also add that we did say that in the low 14’s for the first full year, but you the first half was 15 so that gives you some idea what we are looking at for the second half. So you know, that is pretty low, is in our plan for this year.
Operator
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Byron Pope, representing Ward’s Auto. Please proceed. Byron Pope - Ward’s Auto: Hello gentlemen. I am just wondering you mentioned that you have flexible plants for North America, that can accommodate multiple platforms but it appears that you are still going to be dedicating plans a single platforms, in this new plant. Can you tell us where that is?
Mark Fields
Management
Well, when you look at some of the plants that we will dedicating for example our Dearborn truck facility. It is a still a flexible plant because it clearly, although it is the same model, we are able to flex between the different plant styles. But for the most part by the time we get to the end of the period almost all of our plans will be flexible in nature so clearly we think we have given where the market is going in the fragmentation. We think we have the right formula going forward to respond quickly even though we will still have a plant or two that will be dedicated to a specific product or platform. Byron Pope - Ward’s Auto: Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Rick Poffley representing Chicago Tribune. Please proceed.
Rick Poffley - Chicago Tribune
Analyst · Rick Poffley representing Chicago Tribune. Please proceed
Good morning gentlemen. Just want to follow-up on something that Mark just mentioned on the Explorer in providing the size functionality that people expect. Most of your announcements they have to do with B and C segment size vehicles, which Americans traditionally have not embraced in large numbers. Do you see that really changing that they will give up the room that they have now?
Mark Fields
Management
I think we are already actually starting to see it. When you look for example pickup truck owners trading in their vehicles, a number of them are trading into small C cars, whether they would be sedans or otherwise. So we are starting to see that to one degree or another. I think the key going forward is making sure that in these products that we bring to marketplace, that the vehicles contain the feature content that consumers are used to in larger, more expensive vehicles. And at the same time through the technology that we are able to employ in the engineering in the development of the product, the interior space which to be quite honest the interior space you can get in a C car today is very different and even five years and that would become even more efficient going forward. So we think that combining the high fuel prices, the feature content, the functionality and the utility of those vehicles, the space in those vehicles that we will see a continued different shift in the market place.
Rick Poffley - Chicago Tribune
Analyst · Rick Poffley representing Chicago Tribune. Please proceed
And just on crossovers, they seem to take a big hit on sales in June. Are you concerned that the vehicle such as the Flex and Edge that those may be kind of pass by because of fuel prices as too big?
Mark Fields
Management
I think we are gratified to see that the Edge is the segment leader on crossovers but you are right. We did see a fall off on a year-to-year basis for the crossover segment in the second quarter as opposed to the first quarter it was actually up. And clearly as we look at that I think it is a couple of things. One, it seems to be newer products tend to be doing better so therefore I think our Flex is very well positioned. Also for the fact that it is the highest fuel economy vehicle in its segment. And I think secondly you are seeing more of a preference towards four cylinder engines in that segment and that is where the launch of our new four cylinder Escape bodes well. We are going to have to watch that very closely and part of the production volumes that Don mentioned earlier does reflect a reduction at some of our production up in Oakfield to make sure we keep our inventories in.
Rick Poffley - Chicago Tribune
Analyst · Rick Poffley representing Chicago Tribune. Please proceed
Thank you.
Lillian Etzkorn
Management
We have time for one more question please.
Operator
Operator
Our final question will come from Deanna Durban representing the Associated Press. Please proceed.
Deanna Durban - Associated Press
Analyst
Hi gentlemen. I am glad I got the question in. It looks like this is the worst quarterly loss that Ford has ever had from our archives. Is that something you can confirm? And then also you have a lot riding on the European models. And I am wondering the landscape seems to be littered with European models that has come over here and not done so well, the Saturn Aura comes to mind, the Contour, Mercour. Why are you so sure that European models are going to do so well this time around?
Don Leclair
Analyst · Chris Ceraso representing Credit Suisse, please proceed
You are correct, this is the largest loss that we have made.
Deanna Durban - Associated Press
Analyst
Okay. Thank you.
Alan Mulally
President and CEO
In respect to your second question and I think it is really important that we talk about because what is really different today than never before is the fact that the fuel prices in the United States are up and the consumers are really going to value smaller vehicles and fuel efficient vehicles. But also, as they move to these vehicles they are going to want the vehicles to be neat, they want the quality to be great, the features that we have, the capability. And so we have seen this and the success of this in Europe and also in around the world, so it gives us a lot of confidence that this is going to be led by the consumers. They are going to appreciate these vehicles and they are going to value them. So I think we have a real opportunity here to leverage our global assets and bring to the U.S. customers what they really want in their cars utilities and as long as it attracts.
Deanna Durban - Associated Press
Analyst
Okay thank you and also Mark how long will the Michigan trucks be closed if you could just clarify?
Mark Fields
Management
We have not fully dimensioned that but we will talk about that as we further develop our plans.
Deanna Durban - Associated Press
Analyst
Okay thank you very much.
Lillian Etzkorn
Management
And with that, that concludes today’s presentation. I want to thank everybody for joining us. Have a nice day.
Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes your presentation you may now disconnect. Good day.