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First BanCorp. (FBP)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Mon, Oct 26, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to the First BanCorp Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]. Please also note, today’s event is being recorded. And I’d like to turn the conference call over to Mr. John Pelling, Investor Relations Officer. Sir, please go ahead.

John Pelling

Analyst

Thank you, Jamie. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining First Bancorp's conference call and broadcast to the company’s financial results for the third quarter 2015. Joining me today as always are Aurelio Aleman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Orlando Berges, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today’s call, it is my responsibility to inform you this call may involve certain forward-looking statements such as projections of revenue, earnings and capital structure as well as statements on the plans and objectives of the company’s business. Company’s actual results could differ materially from the forward-looking statements made due to the important factors described in the company's latest Securities and Exchange Commission filings. Company assumes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements made during the call. If anyone does not already have a copy of the webcast presentation or press release issued by First BanCorp you can access at the our website www.firstbankpr.com. At this time I would like to turn the call over to our CEO, Aurelio Aleman. Aurelio.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, John good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us to discuss our third quarter results. On the call with me today is Orlando Berges, our CFO, who will provide the details of the financial results. Please let’s start with slide five of the presentation to discuss the highlights of the quarter. As we can see and report that it was a fairly clean and stable quarter, with no special transactions this time. Our franchise performance continue to show progress in key metrics. Economic activity in our primary market was received within normal levels. Slight decrease in our sales and mortgage originations in Puerto Rico, while we continue to see increased lending activity in both Florida and the Virgin Island market. We generated $14.8 million of net income for the quarter. It was negatively impacted by increased provisioning related to government exposure in Puerto Rico. On the positive side, we achieved slight increase in the loan portfolio organically and our expense reduction initiative can be seen as we reduce our third quarter non-interest expense to $93.3 million approximately. We also drove improvement in our pre-provision pre-tax results. Pre-tax pre-provision earnings now are $50.5 million for the quarter, which continues to support our growing capital base; tangible book value is now $7.50 per share. NPA declined 4% in the quarter largely to improved performance of the commercial book, NPA ratio now 4.8%. Despite this improvement influence to non-performing reflected a slight increase both in the commercial and residential portfolios. We obviously remained cautious as the Puerto Rico fiscal situation unfolds, but definitely we are very well prepared to manage through potential adverse scenarios if they come to play. And as I said before we continue to focus on improving our core metrics of the franchise, while operating in this…

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. So Aurelio showed the beginning of the third quarter shows the net income of $14.8 million, or $0.07 a share compared to a loss of $34.1 million or $0.16 per share for the second quarter. As we discussed during our last earnings call our second quarter results included several significant unusual items that do affect comparability, specifically the $48.7 million loss we had on a bulk sale of classified and non-performing assets. The $12.9 million other-than-temporary impairment we took on the Puerto Rico government securities and pre-tax cost of $2.6 million related to the conversion of loan and deposit accounts that we acquired from Doral. If we look at pre-tax result excluding these items, pre-tax income for the third quarter was $19.2 million, compared to an adjusted pretax income of $20.2 million for the second quarter. Also as Aurelio mentioned pre-tax pre-provision earnings for the quarter were $50.5 million in comparison to our $47 million last quarter. If we breakdown components start with provisioning, the provision for the quarter was $31.2 million, compares to $74 million for the second quarter. Second quarter however included $the 46.9 million charge associated with the bulk sale of non-performing loans and assets. If we exclude this impact the provision for the quarter increased by $3.9 million. Main differences, last quarter we had $3.8 million in recoveries, $2.7 million of those were on the sale of several auto and personal loans and were fully charged-off in prior periods. And we also had some consumer loans we start releases in the second quarter related to lower loss severities in the prior periods that are included on the allowance calculations. Also you remember in the second quarter we did have $15.5 million charge, which was related to incorporation of the charge-offs from the bulk…

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes please let’s open the Q-and-A.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Alex Twerdahl from Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead with your question.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Good morning, Alex.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

First, could you share with us the actual amount of the provision that was associated with the TDF loans during the quarter?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Alex, as a practice we never disclosed specific reserves on loans. Obviously, I can tell you that an adverse classification as a standard classification does carry a double-digit reserve number. But we have not disclosed that in the past and we have not disclosed any specific reserves on our loan.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. Did anything changed with respect to the payments for this quarter, is it just purely due to what’s happened in a macro level that makes you nervous about how much of those payments could potentially made in the future?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Nothing changed in the payments; it's just obviously about the macro. Revenues on those properties meaning room tax, casino revenues that the government received from the properties continues to be significantly higher to what they contribute. So nothing has changed on payment behaviors.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. And then what about -- can you just talk a little bit more about... maybe I missed in your prepared comments, but the $40 million construction loan that was transferred back to held for investment, did you say that that was refinanced to a new borrower during the quarter or what exactly change that makes it something that you now going to keep versus selling?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

This case has been under press for a long time, is a Scrub Island case and what happen is you know that case went through a court process. We ended up finding a new agreement with court support with the borrower and we plan to hold the loan for now. They are expecting new investors’ money to come in and we feel that with the strategies we’ve applied the properties could improve the value. So we decided to change the strategies on selling it versus holding it.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. And then the $800,000 to $1 million per quarter that you mentioned for the business-to-business tax, is that per quarter or per year?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

That is per quarter, it’s important to clarify though that... remember that business-to-business tax which are 4% coming in now in October and will be like that through March 31st. According to the regulation -- to the legislation it could go up to 10.50% in April 1st. The secretary does have that the discussion to postpone the time. We are hearing that there is a possibility that they could postpone at least through the end of June or beginning of June. But it could change. So their numbers could go up if it stays the way it is.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. With that in mind, can you talk about some of the opportunities that you have in 2016 to increase that pre-tax pre-provision net revenue number both on the expense side and also on the revenue side?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

When you look at the expense side in the Puerto Rico case in 2015 the significant what we would consider onetime event. So when you talk about legal, you talk about consulting professional services actually some of the list top in branches we acquired Doral, which actually increased expenses we just realized some of the consolidation opportunities and you actually going to see reflected in the fourth quarter. So as the improvements in the different areas those expense we are still working on it. We feel fairly confident that we will mitigate that increase from the tax side, and actually the target is to show a better number. On the revenue side, I think I mention over the pipeline, the pipeline actually looks good, looks good in Puerto Rico and it actually looks very good in Florida and the Virgin Island. So the portfolio on the revenue side there is some non-interest income opportunities. When you talk about account fees and charges, which we’ll closely monitoring and introduction of certain new services that we probably mention later on when we are ready. But we feel good about the above $200 million pre-provision pre-tax Alex.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

And then just final question, can you just remind us when we could possibly see some reassessment of that DTA, the remaining DTA evaluation allowance?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Well we have to go through the analysis every year as you know, we’ll undertake that process this quarter, that doesn’t mean that we’ll see some changes on the information because obviously some of it was based on the strategies we had analyzed on revenue streams and how things change overtime. We feel comfortable that the analysis we had done to recognize the DTA last year, included situations on the market and included sensitivities on charge-offs that would reflect adequately what we have seen in 2015. To be able to say that the recognition of the remaining amount, I would have to say that it’s, I don’t think it is something that is ‘15 event.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Brian Klock from Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Inc. Please go ahead with your question.

Brian Klock

Analyst

Hey, good morning gentlemen.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Good morning, Brian.

Brian Klock

Analyst

I wanted to follow up a little bit on the TDF loans that you guys put in the classified. So just remind us I mean these guarantees are I guess, I would view it as a third source of payment right because you’ve got the cash flows from the hotels then you’ve got the collateral and then we have to go through that before the guarantees come into play. So I guess maybe talking about that process and again these are current. So I just make sure I understand the process and how these things are accruing in currently?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Okay. The way the guarantee work is that it’s two things, but it's obviously the primary responsibilities from the borrower, which is the hotel and TDF comes in as a secondary responsibility to cover payment and performance of the loan. If you remember when at the filing of the 10-Q we had indicated that we have received our $4.8 million of payments from TDF during 2015 through June 30, on Payment and performance in this facilities. So that tells you that the hotel facility is not fully compliant covering that payment. That’s why, the TDF guarantee it’s an important component on supporting the full payment. They have continue to make payments normally and the loans are current we haven’t had any issues on timing of payment. But in reality TDF continues to be part of the government part of GDB. And we feel there is enough uncertainty on GDB to warn the classification. Aurelio did mentioned Brian that if you look at revenue collection on the hotels that the government gets vis-à-vis the amount of payments they’re covering, is significantly higher the revenue collections. So we feel it’s in the best interest of the government to continue to support the hotels, but we cannot ignore that the uncertainty surrounding GDB.

Brian Klock

Analyst

Okay. And maybe I guess the thing about so there the risk that the TDF guarantee those cash flows that you’re getting so far may not whatever happens with the GDB those cash flows could be at risk, but the underlying mortgage payments principle and interest you still have collateral and you still have cash flow that’s coming from those hotels as a first and primary source, right?

Orlando Berges

Analyst

That is correct.

Brian Klock

Analyst

Great, okay. Just want to make sure and I think you did answer a lot of other questions, oh go ahead.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes, that’s why we called it indirect exposure.

Brian Klock

Analyst

Yes, exactly and when I think about the direct exposure, some pretty good trends in the underlying asset quality some of your higher severity commercial we continue to work down the NPAs there. So like that and net interest margin was pretty stable. So some good loan growth we saw as you talked about the first time we’ve seen some positive loan growth organically in a while. So maybe talk about I guess we are seeing from the stability in the margin and the good loan growth organically.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

It’s really what we call it a three-by-three it’s really consumer, commercial and mortgage in the three regions Puerto Rico, Florida and the Virgin Islands. If you look at the graph that in one of the pages when we talked about the loan portfolio and you look at the trend for the last year we actually if you exclude the loan sales and all the related noise, it’s been fairly stable. Originations are above the $800 million and at the levels that we had over the last two quarters the portfolio will continue to show growth. So it’s really a three-fold strategy commercial, consumer and mortgage understanding the sensitivities of Puerto Rico, keeping the credit policies very tight in this primary market. We’re going to see as Orlando mentioned still some attrition with the consumer book because we continue to keep tighter policies. There is a lot of applications on paper obviously approval ratios remain cautious. On the other hand the Virgin Islands have shown -- we have reduced our portfolio significantly, it was about $1 billion five years ago it’s below $700 million. So, we see some opportunities on that market and Florida as I mentioned before the teams continue to improve the pipeline we have expanded the staff, the staffing in the Florida teams in all the commercial, corporate and mortgage areas. So it’s a combination really the power of the franchise as a loan originator of three main core businesses and three regions.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

And one thing Brian, the loan growth that we saw in the quarter on the commercial side was basically happened at the end of the quarter. So we didn’t see the full impact of those loan growth revenues in the quarter.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes the most of the closings on the commercial side took place in the last month of the quarter, yes.

Brian Klock

Analyst

Yes that’s a good point, thanks for highlighting that and good work in a tough quarter and thanks for your time.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you Brian thanks for your support.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Taylor Brodarick from Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Taylor Brodarick

Analyst · your question.

Hey, great thank you. Hey I think just one left from me, what could you tell us about kind of… I know you can’t give too many details about conversations with regulators but looking at the payments at the end of the year that the government entities have due, what do you think is the most important in selection point to think about possibly getting the fed kind of shifting more towards allowing for more capital deployment?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst · your question.

Well I think it’s two different questions to be honest, I think the -- for Puerto Rico there’s three very important milestones here now, it’s I think PREPA is a milestone, why because it’s kind of first domino here. Resolution of PREPA will give market some confidence and will be a positive step towards outside of the court system, outside of the legal system achieving a good transaction towards the future of a very important entity in the island. And then secondly, liquidity is really the most important event there’s still a lot of noise regarding what GDP is doing in the short-term versus the long-term, but in the short-term it’s really the December payment and the January payment. I think those it’s really the ripple effect of those into the economy, which will give more confident to everyone and the regulatory bodies is how the macro it’s going to bail while we all trying to define here. As we said we do have a lot of capital, we are well aware of the math on how accretive buying shares would be at this stage, but we have to be at this stage we cannot anticipate when the environment will allow us to move forward on any capital actions.

Taylor Brodarick

Analyst · your question.

Thank you, Aurelio, appreciate it.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst · your question.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen at this time I am showing no additional questions, I’d like to turn the conference call back over to Mr. Pelling for any closing remarks.

John Pelling

Analyst

We thank you for your continued interest in First BanCorp. We have a busy November-December attending the Sandler Conference, in Palm Beach, November 7th, The Bank of America Conference in New York November 17th, and the KBW Investor Field Trip in December. So we look forward to seeing you there. Thank you this will conclude the call.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, all.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today’s conference call. We do thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your telephone lines.