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First BanCorp. (FBP)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 26, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the First BanCorp’s Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Pelling, IR Officer. Please go ahead.

John Pelling

Analyst

Thank you, Nicole. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining First Bancorp's conference call and webcast to discuss our second quarter results. Joining me today are Aurelio Aleman, President & Chief Executive Officer; and Orlando Berges, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin today’s call, it is my responsibility to inform you that this call may involve certain forward-looking statements such as projections of revenue, earnings, and capital structure as well as statements on the plans and objectives of the Company’s business. The Company’s actual results could differ materially from the forward-looking statements made due to important factors described in the Company's latest Securities and Exchange Commission filings. The Company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call. If anyone does not already have a copy of the webcast presentation or the press release issued by First BanCorp, you can access it at our Web site, that’s firstbankpr.com. At this time, I would like to turn our call over to, Aurelio Aleman, our CEO. Aurelio.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, John. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining all to discuss our second quarter results. On the call with me today is our CFO, Orlando Berges, who will provide the details on our financials. I will walk through some highlights first. So let’s turn to Slide 5, so we go to the highlights. You would have seen and as we can see in this page, it was preferably clean and a straight forward quarter. But before going into the numbers I would like to comment on the macro. There has been a most important event of the quarter was the passing of PROMESA. We build the passing of PROMESA by the U.S. Congress as a positive step towards reducing the level of uncertainty in our main market. Definitely the expected impact on economic growth long-term should have a positive impact on great quality and growth in the future. Our direct exposure to the targeted debt that will be in periods is basically relatively low when we look at the overall exposure that we have to bond in Puerto Rico. Going through the numbers, we generated net income of 22 million, $0.10 per share, is very close to consensus and it compares to 23 million in the first quarter. Pre-tax pre-provision the $50 million, $50.5 million impacted by net interest income again, tangible book value increased $0.17 to $7.83. The franchise continues to perform strong, in-spite of the macro challenges. Loan origination and renewable improved across all categories and actually across all regions. And the reported franchise continue to grow stronger, we’re going to go in detail into the loans. On the asset quality side, while we saw a slight increase in NPA, I think it's important to highlight that we do not perform any large area of…

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Aurelio mentioned that we posted a net income of 22 million or $0.10 a share, which compares with a 23.3 million last quarter or $0.11 a share. Total assets at the end of the quarter were 12.5 billion slightly down from 12.7 billion at the end of March. We highlight which was basically it's a 4.4 million decline in net interest income which was mostly offset by a 3.5 million decrease in operating expenses. Non-interest income was up 1.3 million, remember last quarter we had two unusual or infrequent components, number one, we had a gain of 4.2 million on the sale on the pre-purchase and cancellation of 10 million in trust preferred and we also had a negative impact of 6.7 million on other-than-temporary impairment adjustments on Puerto Rico government securities we didn't have any this quarter. The operation was basically flat on the quarter, net impact of 5 million increased in mortgage. The mortgage side there was a relation of the HPI by the warehousing finance agency that is a useful purpose of our future projections of expected losses on the portfolio and that affected provision and we also had a 1.7 million increase in the amounts allocated for possible losses on purchase impaired loans it was basically the one portfolio of the ones we acquired early in 2014 from Doral Bank to cancel some of the commercial relationships we had with them at the time. On the other hand, provisions on the commercial side were down about 4 million offsetting that increase, so the net effect was basically flat. On the net interest income which had a large impact of 4 million it was total net interest income was 120.2 million and margin went down to 12.1 so basically 17 basis points. There are…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Alex Twerdahl of Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

A couple of questions for me, first off, you said as the early stage delinquencies is being down 13% can you give us the actual dollar amount for the early six delinquencies?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

The number is about the -- the total dollar amount you mean or the amount they went down.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

The total dollar amount that they were at the end of June?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes, that's going to be shown on the Q but it's about $212 million that the number we had at the end of June.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, and then as the 30 day 90 days delinquency?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

It was over 245 or so at the end of NSL March.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

30 to 89 days on all portfolios the combination of all portfolios.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, great. And then secondly just as I look out at NII which declined a little bit and sort of had to replace some of that income and I guess loan growth will be the most ideal way to do it and the only real loan growth you've had has been is in Florida. Are the pipelines in Florida -- are they sufficient or you think loan growth in Florida could get close to covering continued runoff in Puerto Rico?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Yes I think Alex if you really if you are back the prepayments and repayments that we had that were unexpected for the first half. If you add back the 145 what you see is that we actually when you go back to the beginning of the year, we -- the initial level that we had for the first half were actually going to replace the loan portfolio between Florida and Puerto Rico. Last quarter the Florida was the only component that grew I think like 11 million or so and the other two components reduced. To be honest, as I mentioned the pipeline for Puerto Rico and VI looks stronger in the second half, and for Florida it's been strong through the year and it looks at similar level for the second half. So, I will say our ability to sustain the long run loans above the levels they are today it also has to do with the repayment, but we feel good about the origination volumes for the second half obviously what we're going to anticipate is very difficult is really some of the prepayments

Alexander Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. And…

Orlando Berges

Analyst

No I was just going to add Alex. Obviously we expected some reductions in the quarter, because of the reductions we have seen on the commercial side repayments in the first quarter and the fact we have seen some reductions on the consumer portfolio. The consumer portfolio reduction was probably a bit higher than we expected in the quarter. And obviously I was not expecting that the note will stay down that much that affected the investment portfolio and the reinvestment capacity as well as that reverse repo. So there were some components that are trying to compensation. The other component that I mentioned obviously we’re going to get some benefit in the second half by that much really of those reverse, I mean those repos that the 400 million that mature, it’s about 100 million in the third quarter and 300 million in the fourth quarter.

Alexander Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. And then when you said the pipeline being stronger in Puerto Rico for the second half. Is any of that, do you think related to an any way, just what’s happening on a macro level with PROMESA and with some of the things that have kind of passed towards the end of the second quarter or is it, it’s just too early to see any real impact from that?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

I think in general people it’s less uncertainty surrounding it. So some of the investors that are the silent we’ll already seeing them coming back to look at the same deals that they were considering more or is there an investment in their business. So when you looked at the environment and the volumes and the business activity, it’s being, we have to say stable. But obviously they will reduce on third that they should bring some of these potential investors back to the payroll.

Alexander Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. And then I just have one final question here. And that just as over the last six months, we’ve seen kind of two “capital actions” I think with the repurchase of the just preferreds in the first quarter and then becoming current on the whole trust preferred portfolio in the second quarter. Can you just talk a little bit about how the process has worked with those actions and interactions you’ve had with the regulators specifically around in written agreement that’s outstanding with the Fed?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Well Alex, unfortunately compensation with our regulators are, is really confidential. And obviously as we see, on the other hand as we see like to be build capital backed year. And those steps are always leads towards, but getting to be able to achieve return to the shareholders during the day. So as we can continue to make progress in line with the limitation of the Fed agreement and work together with the regulators on it we should see some progress that’s what we’re trying to where we are hanging.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brett Rabatin with Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

I missed a little bit of the compensation on the one large credit on the commercial side. Can you go back and just give me a little color on that situation. And then obviously, I think everybody is kind of hoping that PROMESA helps the overall environment in Puerto Rico. I guess I’m just looking for any color as well around how you feel about the potential for charge-offs to decline. Given what you’ve done in terms of actions the past few quarters and the early stage and current NPA funnels?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Well there is multiple pieces. Let me try to get one of them your question it has multiple components. First of all, as Orlando covered it was a large relationship that was already adversely classified and filed bankruptcy during the quarter, so it went into non-performing. That obviously -- it's reflected in whatever adjustment needed in terms of provision and was covered during the prior quarters, I think it was moving from classifications and obviously reporting quarter by going to non-performing. Remember we still have some large credits in our portfolio and so we still have a classified book that we report in our Q that we continue to manage proactively. On the other hand, that book it's actually the migration of that book is showing as well as the delinquency. The classified book is also showing some improvement. So, it's a mature book primarily it's being worked out for a long time and obviously we feel and obviously the net EBITDA we feel is properly we save on margin. The NPAs as shown is the commercial NPAs which is a large portion it's around $0.61 on the dollar and the OREOs are actually lower. So, the OREOs is really one of the focus that we said, as I said, that we would like to move, see moving out of the balance sheet in the short-term. And those OREOs are a significant portion of our commercial OREOs. In terms of the PROMESA, it was -- many people were very concerned about the macro and the potential implications and the potential scenarios, shelf scenarios of Puerto Rico could experience and obviously PROMESA reduces it doesn’t eliminate but reduces the potential which are scenarios that we could have out in Puerto Rico. On the other hand, you’ve seen the market is already reacting on the bump side and back stocks are basically moving the bonds in this environment. So, at the end of the day we see this as a more orderly process and better framework that make people feel more comfortable how we’re going to bring to as a solution. We still have to wait on kicking off the economy and which is the most important part but obviously we have the attention of Congress and we have the attention of everyone in the Island and in government and the private industry in trying to achieve that. So it's just a more positive framework we had a control and discipline to move the island forward.

Orlando Berges

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

And I think just to clarify that facility with adversely classified as of March, so if you look at the balance of adversely classified for March through June. On the commercial side, it's down about $2.5 million, so we didn’t have anything large coming into adversely classified and it was not affected by this just because it was already classified we did see reductions that as you saw in the numbers on the non-performing, on the consumer and the residential side, which are also part of the overall adversely classified portfolio.

Brett Rabatin

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then I guess the other thing I was curious to hear more about is the expansion in Florida and maybe if you could just talk what's your plans from here might be to further propel that franchise?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Well, it continues to be primarily wholesale play. We have rebuilt our branches in better places and better facilities, now we have locations in all the Miami-Dade Broward County areas that we would like to be. The teams are in place and we continue to hire quality officers to continue to improve our participation in the market in the different segments. Now we have, we have a complete sales global in the resi on the commercial and on the corporate banking side. And what you see is really the work of a lot of internal marketing getting integrated into additional community and looking for this to participate trying to build a core or waiting to build where we consider a core business within the Miami-Dade Broward County area. The part of the deposit franchise is changing as we've been reporting and obviously growing BBA, growing fees and growing cash management services. And obviously trying to not to compete on the high-end of the purchase manual or not grow that segment of the deposit book.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Joe Gladue with Merion Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Joe Gladue

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Please go ahead.

I was just wondering I guess the TDF loans left were on non-accrual last quarter. Just wondering if you could give us an update on I guess the underlying loans they get seasoned we see any favorable trends on the cash flows on those loans underlying that or is it bad season to tell that?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Well, as you know there it's made up of three loans to hotels the -- doing the up to now two of those loans have remained current as their operations are generating the cash flows to cover payments. The other one is not and obviously that's the one that was needing more support from TDF. So it's early to tell we need to see now the low season coming in what's going to happen with those cash flows of the two hotels that were covering the payment. But until we get to a final solution of how the government is going to deal with it at this time the inventorial law would have hold on the funds that TDF had that are held by GDB therefore they are not being released to cover any payments. So for now, we don’t see the loans moving out of non-performing until the whole thing with the government is settled and a clarification comes out of what's going to happen with GDB bonds and then we'll have a better picture. In the meantime we hope that those two facilities continue with interest as being applied to principal and the balance has been reduced over the second quarter and hopefully we'll continue to see that in the next quarter.

Joe Gladue

Analyst · Merion Capital Group. Please go ahead.

All right. I think my other question has been answered. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Klock of Keefe, Bruyette & Woods. Please go ahead.

Brian Klock

Analyst

So I mean just a couple of things, I think the, I mean you guys already touched on a lot of the details on the quarter. With all the changes that have happen, I think when you kind of look at pre-tax, pre-provision earnings, you guys continue to grow that and then even up pretty significantly year-over-year. So even with the challenges with the spread in this interest rate environment, you guys are still growing pre-tax, pre-provision. So I mean, I guess, with everything you talked about with some of the moving parts that are going in and out of NII and you’ve got some expense level. I think, do you think that the second half for this year, we can still see that growth in the pre-tax, pre-provision earnings number?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Well, I think we mentioned before that, we aim to keep it about 50 million and as you say it hasn’t been easy. Some lower moving parts not only the local market but the interest rate environment as you said, well said. We still have the goal that how we continue to work to keep it about that 50 million level. It’s been pretty consistent on that over the last whole quarter, so it hasn’t been easy.

Brian Klock

Analyst

Okay. Again I guess just a follow-up on the asset quality side. I know you mentioned the OREO balances. I mean, I know you talked about some of the, with the carrying amounts are related to the other NPLs, the commercial NPLs. I guess, can you remind us, I guess what you’re carrying those, the OREO property that. And is there an opportunity maybe you think what a little bit of a maybe better feeling about post PROMESA that maybe you can it some more bids and maybe there is a way to maybe clear out some of that OREO?

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

I did mention in the call, that we feel we’re going to have a better second half. More of those OREO based on the level of activity, we see on those commercial properties yes.

Orlando Berges

Analyst

Yes. And get all the, I don’t have the final, final number for the quarter. We have the OREO on the commercial side what is about $0.40 that’s I would say carrying amount. On the residential side basically within, what we have mentioned is that, we’ve been losing all-in about $0.43 on alternate disposition of those loans that go through non-performing and get through for closure. So that’s on the average what we carry them on the OREO portfolio.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to John Pelling for any closing remarks.

John Pelling

Analyst

Thank you, Nicole. We would be on the road next week we’re attending the KBW conference in New York, August 2nd and 3rd. And then we’re going out on the road with Joe Gladue at Merion Capital in Philadelphia on August 4th. So we look forward to seeing some of you then. Thank you for your time. And I appreciate your interest in First BanCorp this will conclude the call.

Aurelio Aleman

Analyst

Thank you, all.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.