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FactSet Research Systems Inc. (FDS)

Q4 2007 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 27, 2007

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Executives

Management

Peter G. Walsh - CFO and Sr. VP Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and CEO Michael F. DiChristina - President, COO Michael D. Frankenfield - Sr. VP and Director of U. S. Investment Management Services Kieran Kennedy - Director of Investment Banking and Brokerage Services

Analysts

Management

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs John Neff - William Blair & Company Lisa Monaco - Morgan Stanley Jeff Cardon - Wasatch Advisors

Operator

Operator

Welcome, and thank you for standing by. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. And welcome to the FactSet Research Systems Fourth Quarter Fiscal 2007 Quarterly Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. Now I will turn the meeting over to Mr. Peter Walsh, Chief Financial Officer. Sir, you may begin.

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thanks to all of you for participating today. Welcome to FactSet's fourth quarter earnings conference call. Joining me today are Phil Hadley, Chairman and CEO; Mike DiChristina, President and Chief Operating Officer; Mike Frankenfield, Director of our U. S. Investment Manager business and Kieran Kennedy, Head of Investment banking. This conference call is being transcribed in real-time by FactSet's CallStreet service and is being broadcast live via the internet at factset.com. A replay of this call will also be available on our website. Our call will contain forward-looking statements reflecting management's current expectations based on currently available information. Actual results may differ materially. More information about factors that could affect FactSet's business and financial results are in FactSet's filings with the SEC. Lastly, FactSet undertakes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. We'll divide our time today in three ways. First, we'll review fourth quarter results. Then I'll cover guidance for the upcoming first quarter of fiscal 2008. Finally, we’ll close with our management team addressing your questions. Before covering results, I'd like to take a moment to highlight two items. One, included in the just completed fourth quarter were income tax benefits related to prior periods of $1.1 million or $0.02 per diluted share. This was a result of FactSet beginning to include in an estimated tax liability, a benefit related to the repatriation of foreign earnings to the U. S. Two, like last year, we added a supplementary schedule in today's press release, that summarize quarterly revenues related to FactSet's services that are not included in our calculation of annual subscription value. These revenues are not material but were disclosed to aid in investors' ability to make more precise interpretations and…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from Mr. Peter Appert, Goldman Sachs. You may ask your question.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. It looks like the momentum in terms of clients and users for the Portfolio Manager Workstation accelerated here in the most recent quarter. Any thoughts on what might be driving that?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

Peter, hi. This is Phil Hadley.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Hi. Phil.

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

I think, if you are going to look at even… change in trajectory of total seats, we've built out our sales force on a specialty basis pretty substantially throughout the year to focus on particular product lines. I think the fourth quarter probably illustrates success in that area in penetrating current clients and diverting them in that particular product line.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Can you give us any specifics, Phil or Peter, in terms of number of sales people, specifically today versus a year ago?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Yes. We grew our sales force, Peter, approximately at the rate of revenue growth versus a year ago.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

How about number of salespeople?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

We broke the company in the third… a third of sales consulting, a third of engineering and cost development and a third of content collection and administrative functions.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay. And then, Phil, any thoughts on the development of the fixed income product? I understand it’s a small component obviously of the business currently but just the traction you are seeing there and whether there’s any push back from clients in the context of just the turmoil we are seeing in the debt markets currently?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

I would make just two points. You are correct, it is still immaterial as far as fact that goes, it's moving nicely in the PA product line, for PA fixed-income and we are continuing to focus on the standalone products as well, but it’s still single digits for us as far as total ASPs. As far as the turmoil in the credit markets, again I think our exposure is so low that it’s hard for me to even make a comment at this point.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Are you hearing anything, Phil, back from customers in terms of again the turmoil in the capital markets that might suggest the greater resistance to adding terminals going into fiscal ’08?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

I haven’t seen anything yet. 75% of our business is the buy side, and if you look at the U. S. market, all the markets, our major indices are still up for the year which bodes well for us. If we get to the sell side you obviously have the equity research department which is more tied to the buy side and then you get to the investment banking areas. And I think you have seen mixed results firm by firm as to what the year turned out to be. So I think we have still got such a huge upside and such a small spend in part of these firms, and in addition to which I think that firms are continuing to consolidate under our product lines and simplifying their IT spend choosing FactSet. So I really see a lot of opportunities ahead of us.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay, great. I’ll just add two more and then try to stop being a hog here. The pace of share repurchase activities, you stepped it up here obviously, Phil, this year. Is this year’s pace a good indication, do you think, of what we should look for next year?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

We are constantly evaluating how best t o return our profits to the shareholders. Obviously we increased our dividends. Share re purchases is certainly a mechanism in addition to M&A activities. I think since we are such a cash flow positive business you’ll continue to see us optimize those three as best as we best feel would be for the shareholders.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay, that was very political. The last question Phil, any particular new products or new product offerings or product line extensions we should be focused on over the next 12 months that could be drivers of revenues?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

Our entire product line is really incrementally enhancing everything we already do. Marquee is a great example. We have been incrementally enhancing that since we released the product three or four or five years ago. At this point, it will continue to get enhancements like any other product line. So for something to be a driver of revenue it's probably got a five year run before it gets to the point where it really is a contributor from what you think of as the contributor.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay.

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

So, we invest heavily in our products. A Peter was describing, a third of our business, a third of our employees are really in the product creation side so…

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Great. So more of the same?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

Yes.

Peter Appert - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Kevin Dorrody [ph], Banc of America Securities. You may ask your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, thanks for taking my call. Just to follow up on one of Peter’s earlier questions about the seat growth, can you maybe just give us a sense of the mix of your new users? Is that still coming in, kind of a 75% investor management, 25% banking split? And then also, how you think about new users coming from your existing clients versus new users, new clients?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

On the seat, I think if you were going to look at our seat and client growth, it is always going to be lumpy to some degree. Large clients can make broad decisions that affect our seat counts quarter-to-quarter. I think as a whole, I am certainly pleased with the year because our seat count accelerated. And the second question was there?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then again, just more of the mix between growth from new users and existing accounts versus the users from new clients?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

I would say the majority of our seat count is with existing clients. Most clients come on with a small seat count, and then over the years expand.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And then just a question on how we should think about your margins going forward. I know in the past you'd talked about kind of reinvesting the upside, but I know this year, it’s kind of [inaudible] in a few years that your top line growth was really out paced by the bottom line. Was there anything unusual about ’07 that you were able to generate so much leverage? And should we expect more of a top line growth to track the bottom line, maybe as we look out over the next few years?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Thanks, Kevin. I think when you look at ’07, I think two things certainly helped the relationship of bottom line versus top line, and that was other income was up consistently in strong percentage of 56% in the most recent quarter year-over-year due to our higher cash balances, and real higher interest rate. And also our effective tax rate dropped, we ended last year at just a little north of 36% and the current rate for the year was 34.2%. So I would… so I think we are really managing the Company for our revenue top line growth and bottom line growth to be more consistent than what they were in 2007. And it's hard to predict. But I do think our other income and improvements in the pipeline will continue at the rate we saw this year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then maybe kind of just above the line, your margins did expand at least this past year, how should we think about that, going forward then and how does that balance out your reinvestment strategy?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

We have been really managing the Company for our margins to be flat. And we are managing that primarily through investing back into the product. And that investment comes in two forms. One is people, which you see in that, that we really increased our headcount by 23%, which was very significant relevant to other years. And the other form is expanding some of the contents that is available in FactSet either through third parties or through what we build by ourselves.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thanks for the color.

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Thanks, Kevin.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Mr. John Neff, William Blair & Company. You may ask your question. John Neff - William Blair & Company: Thanks, guys. Your guys described about 63% of the options that you granted are performance vesting based, not just time vesting. Can you describe what the key performance metrics are that you use to track that vesting?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Thanks, John. Last year we introduced performance based options because we thought it was really important to balance the needs of our employees and also our shareholders to important constituents. The performance based options vest over a two year period, if we attained metrics that relate either to our growth of ASP or net income. And so, those metrics would be the lower of one of the those two items, over a two-year period. John Neff - William Blair & Company: Okay, good. I was just wondering if you could describe the growth in employees as they have been concentrated in one bucket or the other of the third, a third, a third you mentioned. Is there a geographic concentration of that growth and what might you expect for hiring growth in ’08?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

As far as looking back at ’07, there wasn’t a concentration in any one discipline when you compare it on content collection, sales and consulting and/or engineering product development. From a geographic point of view we added more employees non U. S. than we did in the U. S. and that just really reflects what we think is the opportunity in those relative markets. Going forward, we will continue to invest heavily in headcount and our current plans are to keep our headcount investment and our revenue growth rate in very similar zip codes. John Neff - William Blair & Company: Great. And then your CapEx guidance of $38 million to $44 million in ’08, is there any implicative real estate or consolidation expenses in there?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

The CapEx guidance doesn’t, has us moving in Boston from one location to another. And so when you are moving as opposed to expanding an office, you're going to spend more money in CapEx. And I also would add that the CapEx guidance also would include our upgrading from one version of HP’s mainframe to another and it would also follow if CapEx is higher doing a year of upgrade versus a year of just adding to or expanding the number of mainframes that are necessary based on client demand. John Neff - William Blair & Company: Okay, one more question, if I could. The DSOs looked they just plunged in the quarter. In the last quarter you started invoicing it month and at the beginning of the month… I reverse that… beginning of the month, before month-end there was a change. Can you just walk us through the impact that had this quarter if any on DSOs? And what sort of sustainable level for DSOs we should think about. Is it third quarter number or the fourth quarter number you just ordered today?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

I think as far as the DSO’s are, I think the number we referred today is more valuable than it was 90 days ago. Our receivable balance is flat over the last 12 months, while our revenue gross rate has increased 23%. And one of that reasons is because we're billing on the first day of the month versus the last. And we have… we've continued to work very hard on our collection activities and our goal is to keep our receivable growth to be lower than our revenue growth. And so obviously fiscal ’07’s performance is superlative and it will be difficult to replicate that going forward. John Neff - William Blair & Company: Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Lisa Monaco, Morgan Stanley. You may ask your question. Lisa Monaco – Morgan Stanley: Hi, good morning. A couple of questions. Just on the growth in the U. S. versus overseas. I’m surprised at how similar the growth rates are. I would have thought, overseas would be growing at a higher rate than the U. S. Can you just talk a little bit about how those markets might be different or the products, different product offerings in each of the markets? And then somewhat related, is there any way to give us some idea about the margin if it's similar in the regions? And then I have a follow up. Thanks.

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

Hi, Lisa, how are you this morning? Lisa Monaco – Morgan Stanley: Hi, Phil.

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

So, part of the reason is because the U. S. hasn’t decelerated nicely. Part of the reason is because the product lines are different across the world. We have a tendency to produce the product first in the United States, and then extend it across the world. But that is true in two major product lines that we have. So portfolio analytics from the equity side is mature worldwide and anybody that purchases these products gets full functionalities. Portfolio analytics on the fixed income side is ready for the market in the U. S. and it still has targets to be made on the non U. S. markets. Obviously, a lot more securities in local markets to deal with. It's just an example of it just takes us longer to get the products to maturity in the global marketplace than it does in the U. S. marketplace, just because of the complexity. The same would be true with the Marquee product line. Marquee is easier to load in the U. S. and North America exchanges than it is to load in the rest of the world. So some of the drivers that accelerate the U. S. haven’t yet hit full strength in the non U. S. markets. And as you take that outside of the U. S or just market by market, some markets are hot, some markets aren’t, depends on what’s going on in local markets and where our market share is already and what kind of sales force we have in the ground in the local markets because it gets smaller as you get country by country. But I feel very comfortable with the opportunity I’ve had. The U. S. growth is very strong.

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Hi, Lisa. Thanks for your question on the margins, U.S. versus non U. S. The way we really manage FactSet is through one P&L. And while we do have segments and we break out those segments, we see in our SEC filings we have a very big asterisk telling the world that we have one P&L and it's very difficult to allocate expenses from one location to another, primarily because most of our engineering activity is located here in the U. S. and they work on products that benefit all geographies, as well as a lot of our infrastructure related to the data centers. So, there’s nothing there that leads us to believe that the margins are significantly different in either location, the products are priced very similarly. The clients, and their activities and their profit margins we think are consistent from one geography to another. But I just don’t have a hard fact that I can give you on your question. Lisa Monaco – Morgan Stanley: Okay, great. And then, just you mentioned an increase in data, I think you said data collection costs or I’m not sure if you said data collection or data creation. Can you just elaborate on what contents that you're adding to or enhancing and kind of like that’s going to be a focus of some of your investment spending, going forward where you need to beef up some of your content then. Thanks.

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

So, there's several acquisitions, we've had several content systems backed up that we create and maintain ourselves. Institutional holdings is one. CallStreet is solving transcripts, transcribed [ph] is another. Several other content sets we've created organically. It has been a revenue driver for us in the last year as well. We don’t talk about it much but it kind of gets blended into the region in the various product lines and it has produced high returns for us and it's given us a competitive advantage. So, we continue to invest heavily in each of the contents thus to make sure that they meet the needs of each of our clients. We, our primary position in the marketplace is at the very high end of the marketplace which demands us to make sure the content sets are A+ in their space. And we continue to focus to make sure that that happens, and it requires people and focus. Lisa Monaco – Morgan Stanley: Is there any particular content set that you’re focusing on adding to or enhancing?

Philip A. Hadley - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Analyst

No. I think each one of them has a set of priorities attached to them. Whether it’s the earnings estimates, the institutional holdings, M&A, the private company, the private equity, venture capital and several more, each of them requires investments. And there are a lot of players in this space that collect content and you have to find a niche and make sure you’re the best of them. Lisa Monaco – Morgan Stanley: Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mr. Jeff Cardon, Wasatch Advisors. You may ask your question.

Jeff Cardon - Wasatch Advisors

Analyst

Hi, thanks, guys. The only question I have is, what was the FASB 123 cost for the quarter? Can you hear me?

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Hi, Jeff. Thanks for your question. The stock based compensation expense for the quarter was $2.3 million.

Jeff Cardon - Wasatch Advisors

Analyst

Great, thanks. That was it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Peter G. Walsh - Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President

Analyst

Thank you very much. We’ll see you in December.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s call. Thank you for participating. You may disconnect at this time. ….