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Frequency Electronics, Inc. (FEIM)

Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 12, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Frequency Electronics, Inc. Q1 2014 Earnings Release Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Any statements made by the company during this conference call regarding the future constitute forward-looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigations Reform Act of 1995. Such statements inherently involve uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences are included in the company's press release and are further detailed in the company's periodic report filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin.

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Good afternoon, everyone. This is Martin Bloch. Welcome to our conference call of first quarter of fiscal 2014. I'm going to turn this call over to Alan Miller, who will go through the financial details, and then I will try to give you some color on Frequency's progress and open the conference for questions and answers. Alan, please proceed.

Alan Miller

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Thank you, Martin, and good afternoon, everyone. For the first quarter of fiscal 2014, Frequency's revenues were $16.8 million compared to last year's first quarter fiscal 2013 number of $16.7 million. Revenues from satellite payloads remain the dominant market for Frequency and the area of largest growth going forward. Satellite payload revenues increased approximately 16% over the prior year period and accounted for over 55% of consolidated first quarter revenues. Revenues from non-space U.S. government DOD programs, including sales by FEI-Elcom and the FEI-Zyfer accounted for about 1/4 of consolidated revenues. Total revenues for the U.S. Government/DOD end use activities, both for space and non-space programs, continued to account for more than 60% of Frequency's consolidated revenues. Network infrastructure revenues, which are recorded in FEI-New York, FEI-Zyfer and Gillam-FEI, were about 15% of consolidated revenues. Based on our current backlog and new satellite bookings awarded at the end of the first quarter, we anticipate continued strong revenues from the satellite payload market in fiscal 2014. Our gross margin for the first quarter was $6.3 million compared to $6 million in the year-ago quarter. Now this increased gross margin is due to the increased revenues and improved gross margin rate from 35.8% to 37.2%. As we've discussed previously, our gross margin rate is impacted by product mix and the sales volume of our subsidiaries. Fiscal year 2014 SG&A expenses of $3.6 million were comparable to last year's $3.5 million and were at 21% of revenues in both years. This level of SG&A expenses is in line with our expectations and as revenues increase, we will do expect to see the ratio of SG&A expenses to revenues to decrease. As we noted in our press release during the first quarter of fiscal 2014, we continued to accelerate our R&D investment in the…

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Thank you, Alan. When things are going great, my remarks can be very short, and I'll give the most time to questions and answers. We have accelerated the conclusion of development of the up/down converter down receiver line because of the business opportunities. We have tested the engineering models and we expect to perform the delta qualification before the end of calendar 2013. It is much easier for us to do it because we have legacy on the receivers and we are flying them already for quite a few years in space, and this is just an improvement in size, performance and the ability to produce large numbers per satellite instead of the isolated receiver down converters we've built for many of the sensitive programs on this. I would also like to emphasize that there is significant opportunity in increasing profitability on space programs, as they are now the most profitable portion of FEI's product line because there's a certain baseline of cost that you have to be in the space business. And as a typical example, a baseline of $10 million will be there in place if you ship $20 million of space product. It will go up to $12 million if you ship $80 million worth of space product. That's why I'm very bullish on Frequency's future, since the majority of our backlog is in both commercial and military space programs. Most of the orders that we have received are very fortunate on legacy of products that are already flying and therefore, we expect to be able to meet the much demanded shorter cycle time and the risk for being on budget and maintaining good profit margin are excellent. We have already significant proposals outstanding on our new product line with the programs that are scheduled to be…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jim McIlree with Chardan Capital.

James McIlree

Analyst · Chardan Capital

It's Jim McIlree which Chardan Capital. Alan, in your prepared remarks, you said 25% of revenues came from something, and I just missed it. What was that? 25% from what?

Alan Miller

Analyst · Chardan Capital

About 1/4 revenues were generated from non-space U.S. government-related work.

James McIlree

Analyst · Chardan Capital

Non-space U.S. G. Great. And Martin, you confused me a little bit on the converter products. It sounds like you might get orders by the end of this year, but revenues, by the end of next year. Did I hear that correctly?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Chardan Capital

Well, almost. Okay, we already have orders on up/down converters on units that we have space experience. But this is very high-revenue, single type of up/down converter for special missions. The new converters that we are finishing development is -- will be for military and commercial communication satellites of which there are not 1 or 2 receivers per satellite, but 40 to 140. And so those are the products that we have outstanding proposals. And yes, we expect the progress on there at the end of this calendar year or definitely before the end of this fiscal year.

James McIlree

Analyst · Chardan Capital

Okay, great. That makes sense. And can you just -- just 2 more, if I can. Can you give us an update on GPS and the next programs?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Chardan Capital

Well, we are fully funded up to develop -- to finish development of the clocks for GPS 3. We're going through right now in the process of getting units built for qualification and for anticipated flight. And at that time, this is going to be a competition between us and then one other supplier on who's going to fly clocks on the next 36 -- 33 to 36 GPS satellites. And then the basic philosophy is that there's going to be both suppliers on the satellites and whoever has the most cost-effective product will fly 2, the other one will fly 1 in order to make sure that we have mixed technologies for best reliability. And we'll do our best to be the one with the most attractive price.

James McIlree

Analyst · Chardan Capital

And on the NEXT program, the Iridium NEXT program?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Chardan Capital

The Iridium NEXT program, that's fully funded, and we have delivered the engineering models. We are going through qual and will be producing all of the timing, all of the equipment over the next 3 years per schedule. As a matter of fact, we are blessed today with having Thales Alenia team right here for a progress review.

James McIlree

Analyst · Chardan Capital

Great. And my last one. Martin, you talked about the leverage in the model, and I think I missed the denominator on the first one. You said if you -- you were talking about that $10 million to something and $12 million to $80 million, and I just...

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Chardan Capital

Yes, okay. Alan has it in more clear language. In order to be in space business, you need a certain infrastructure, which is certain of your research laboratory, certain of the quality control system, certain of the procedures, and that's roughly a $10 million bite. And the $10 million -- you need $10 million in place if you're going to ship $20 million of space product. You're going to go from $10 million to $12 million if you ship $80 million worth of products. In short, what that means is that, although we have very good margin on space products, they will continuously significantly improve as we capture and ship more volume on both commercial and military space.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Tristan Thomas with Sidoti & Company.

Tristan Thomas

Analyst · Tristan Thomas with Sidoti & Company

Two quick questions. The first one regarding the capital equipment purchase. How soon is that expected to be implemented and really online?

Alan Miller

Analyst · Tristan Thomas with Sidoti & Company

Should be almost immediate, should it? With the install…

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Tristan Thomas with Sidoti & Company

Yes. Some of it is immediate and the other portion is some 80 equipment for the anticipated increase in volume. This is we want to do more with machine and less with touch labor, both for accuracy and throughput. So I would expect that half of it will -- is being implemented immediately and the other half, I would say, within the next 3 to 4 months.

Tristan Thomas

Analyst · Tristan Thomas with Sidoti & Company

Okay, great. And last question. Obviously, the satellite business is doing very well. Regarding Zyfer and Elcom, can you just do a quick comment on either profitability or the lack thereof in those 2 segments?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Tristan Thomas with Sidoti & Company

Okay. Well, Elcom, let's take that first. There are -- one of the main functions is to help us finish the development of the new space product, and that's one of the main reason for our acquisition. On their own product line, they're holding their own, but they are affected to a small degree with a savings that the U.S. government applies. The same applies to Zyfer. They are affected a little bit by the reduction in military spending. But again, we are trying to give new missions incorporating FEI's product line and their objectives. Another mission that FEI-Zyfer is pursuing very actively and has great opportunity in the future is to improve the security of government interoperability between services. And that is being pushed as a high-priority program at FEI and at FEI-Zyfer.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst · Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management

Martin, I'm not sure if you said this. I'm on a cellphone and it's not as clear. How many millions are you running on a satellite right now? And how many satellites are you -- do you have? And is it different from the previous quarter?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management

The number of -- I think Alan has mentioned that our backlog of orders is 75% on satellites. And some of them are new satellites and a good portion are just legacy satellites that are now being pushed very high into service in order to get bandwidth, both for the military and the commercial ones.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst · Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management

I know the objective was $25 million per satellite. Are you at $10 million? Have you increased from the previous quarter? Or how much millions per satellite?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management

We are still in between -- depending on the satellite and the complexity, between $5 million and $10 million just because we have not implemented any of our new product line in our satellites at this time. Our goal is to do it by the end of this calendar year.

Sam Rebotsky

Analyst · Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management

End of this calendar year, okay.

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management

And have by them running by end of this fiscal year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital.

Jonathan Brolin

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

I have 2 questions for you. The first is on GPS 3. You mentioned that there will be one provider who gets 2 clocks and one who gets 1. What is the revenue differential between those 2? Is it 2:1? And what is the total revenue opportunity there?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

Well, the total opportunity for GPS 3 on the clock is -- and this is my personal estimate, so don't take it to the bank. It's probably someplace around $100 million for the program.

Jonathan Brolin

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

Okay. And so if you were to divide that, is it reasonable to assume that the person that's getting 2 clocks gets $66 million and the person who's getting 1 clock gets $33 million and change, something around that ballpark?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

Roughly. I would imagine that since a larger portion -- assuming the quality and performance is a given. You have to meet the quality and performance on this point. Then whoever has a better cost model will get the 2/3 and the other one will get 1/3. So that's not a bad estimate that you made.

Jonathan Brolin

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

At that plays out over how many years?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

Well, only God knows for sure, but the present plan is to get all of the GPS implemented in the next 3 to 4 years.

Jonathan Brolin

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

Okay. And then outside of that, there was an announcement this morning of Heiko acquiring Lucix, which plays in the microwave module integrated subsystems for commercial and military satellites. Do you have any comment on that transaction, either what it means for the industry or your thoughts? Do you run in to Lucix in competition? Do you have thoughts on Lucix being owned by a larger company, and does it have any impact on Frequency?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · Jonathan Brolin with Edenbrook Capital

Yes. The answer is we do run into Lucix. Second, I don't see any impact in this. I want to put one differentiator between us and Lucix. They do provide microwave reference sources for both military and commercial satellites. The big differentiator is that one of the key ingredients in this product across low phase noise oscillator, which FEI is fortune to build it from raw material to finished product. That enables us to considerably shorter cycle time and better performance, and I think that gives us a significant advantage. But I don't see any difference if they operate it by themselves or a part of Heiko. Though I don't know very much about Heiko, although I've never run into them in any space programs.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Michael Eisner [ph], who's a private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

What is going -- any update on the smart electrical grid in France?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Yes. I'm just -- we just had a review with Gillam. We had the official board meeting just 2 hours before. They are pursuing. It's a great opportunity for upgrading the France Telecom equipment, and they're working it on a day-to-day basis. And we should have some more inputs within the next 3 to 4 weeks.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Great. And what was the backlog? I couldn't catch that.

Alan Miller

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

The backlog at the end of July was $56 million.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

That's what I thought you said. You said -- but you mentioned in the release $30 million were booked in the first quarter?

Alan Miller

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Yes. But not all of that was funded.

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Those are orders. And you know the way the orders are placed is that you place the order and you do a funding for the first 6 months until you work out all the detail, cross the Is and dot the Ts. And we only include in our backlog what is funded, not what is on order.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

But that's still a huge amount, I think.

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Yes, it is. We were very delighted on this. It's one of the highest quarters in our history.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

That's what I thought. And you never had that much did -- or you did?

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

It was very exciting.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for closing comments.

Martin Bloch

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Okay. Again, thank you for listening in. We expect to have a great year and beyond. And our products are meeting the need of shorter cycle time and more cost effectivity. And to all our Jewish listeners, I want to wish you a happy new year. Goodbye, and we'll see you next quarter.

Alan Miller

Analyst · the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Martin Bloch, President and CEO of Frequency Electronics. Thank you, Mr. Bloch. You may begin

Bye.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.