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Fair Isaac Corporation (FICO)

Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 23, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Sherlyn, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fair Isaac Corporation Quarterly Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed to mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Steve Weber. Please go ahead sir.

Steve Weber

Analyst

Thank you, Sherlyn. Good afternoon and thank you for joining today's second quarter earnings call. I'm Steve Weber, Vice President of Investor Relations, and I'm joined today by our CEO, Will Lansing; and our CFO, Mike Pung. Today we issued a press release that describes financial results compared to the prior year. On this call, management will also discuss results in comparison to the prior quarter in order to facilitate understanding of the run rate of our business. Certain statements made in this presentation may be characterized as forward-looking under the private securities litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements involve many uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Information concerning these uncertainties is contained in the company's filings with the SEC, in particular in the Risk Factors and Forward-looking Statements portions of such filings. Copies are available from the SEC, from the FICO Web site or from our Investor Relations team. This call will also include statements regarding certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the company's earnings release and Regulation G schedule issued today for a reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measure. The earnings release and Regulation G schedule are available on the Investor Relations page of the company's Web site at fico.com or on the SEC's Web site at sec.gov. A replay of this webcast will be available through April 23, 2016. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Will Lansing.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Barclays

Thanks Steve and thank you everyone for joining us for our second quarter earnings call. Today, I will briefly summarize our financial results for this quarter, and then I will talk about where we stand half-way through our fiscal year, and why we are so confident about our strategy and our execution of it. In our second quarter, we reported revenues of $207 million, an increase of 12% over the same period last year. We delivered $19 million of GAAP net income and GAAP earnings at $0.58 per share. We delivered $30 million of non-GAAP net income up 3% from last year and non-GAAP EPS of $0.91 per share an increase of 12% from the same period last year. Our application segment was up 16% over the same period last year. The results included our TONBELLER acquisition, but we also drove growth across our portfolio specifically in fraud solutions, marketing solutions and customer communications solutions. The margins in applications were negatively affected this quarter by a non-recurring charge that Mike will explain in a few minutes. Year-to-date applications revenues are up 10% over the previous year. Our tool segment was up 4% over last year driven primarily by recurring transactional and maintenance increases. Year-to-date tools revenues are up 12% over last year. Our score segment was up 4% compared to last year. Our B2C business was up 24%, our B2B business was down 2% versus last year, but after adjusting out a royalty true-up in the prior period our B2B revenues were up 7% because of our increases in originations. I'm pleased with the revenue growth we are now driving across our business. We believe we can continue and even accelerate that growth while managing our expenses and expanding our margins. We are doing this by carefully executing the strategies…

Mike Pung

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Thanks Will. Good afternoon everyone. Today I will emphasize three points in my prepared comments. First, we delivered $207 million of revenue up 12% from the same period last year with growth in all three segments. This quarter includes initial revenue generated from our Experian partnership. We expect revenue from this partnership to ramp up as the program is rolled out across the various Experian platforms. Second, we delivered $19 million of net income, which was negatively impacted by a non-recurring pre-tax charge related to a loss contract and the TONBELLER acquisition costs both of which totaled $4 million in the aggregate. Finally, we funded the acquisition of TONBELLER, and also repurchased 540,000 shares in quarter two and another 327,000 shares in April. I will begin by breaking the revenue down into our three reporting segments. Starting with applications, revenues were $134 million up 16% versus the same period last year. This included about $3 million in revenues from our TONBELLER acquisition. The biggest gains came in our fraud and marketing solutions. License revenue was particularly strong at $23 million this quarter more than doubled the prior year. In the tool segment, revenues were $23 million up 4% versus the prior year. The growth this quarter was driven by our optimization products and our data management platform. And finally, in our score segment revenues were $50 million up 4% from the same period last year which included a royalty true-up. Adjusting for that true-up B2B was up about 7% primarily due to increased originations. Sequentially B2B is up 5%. The B2C revenues were up 24% from the same quarter last year and 40% sequentially due to increased sales at myfico.com and to the first revenues from the Experian partnership. We expect B2C revenues will continue to grow this year while…

Will Lansing

Analyst · Barclays

Thanks Mike. As I said, last quarter, it's a special time in the history of FICO. After refining our strategy and investing in our future, we are now beginning to see signs of sustainable growth returning to the business. Our score segment is poised to unlock the value that's been built over 25 years of leadership in the financial services system. Our applications remain industry leaders and we have the opportunity to reach new markets by offering these solutions in the cloud. And our decision management suite takes the proven value of IP we built and delivers it to markets that are just now looking to use data to make better decisions. We need to remain focused on execution. We will invest carefully in opportunities for growth and ensure that we deliver a high-quality products and technology on-time. And we will continually look for ways to monetize our IP and expertise and to provide value to our shareholders. I will now turn the call back to Steve for Q&A.

Steve Weber

Analyst

Thanks Will. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we're ready now to take your questions. Operator, please open the lines.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Manav Patnaik with Barclays.

GregBardi

Analyst · Barclays

Yes. Greg calling on our Manav. So the B2B score looks like it came in pretty strong at the 7% and you talked about some mixed benefits from origination scores. I was wondering if you could just touch on which markets you are seeing that strength whether it would be in a mortgage, credit cards et cetera.

MikePung

Analyst · Barclays

Yes. Greg, it was virtually across the board this quarter on the origination side led by cards and followed by mortgage and auto, which were both strong as well.

GregBardi

Analyst · Barclays

Okay. And then looking at B2C, I was wondering if you could to the extent that you can help us parse out, how much of that growth is coming from the core myfico versus the Experian deal and even if there is anything coming from the indirect market which you guys have talked about a little bit?

MikePung

Analyst · Barclays

Yes. Greg, so we saw growth as we mentioned both across myfico and across Experian coming from the experian.com rollout that happened on December 29. We are not going to break down the numbers further between one or the other, we are just saying that overall we are starting to see some of the acceleration on the consumer side that we have been talking about here since November.

GregBardi

Analyst · Barclays

Okay. And the indirect I guess at this point, you guys are attacking that but haven't seen anything flow through to revenues.

MikePung

Analyst · Barclays

Yes.

GregBardi

Analyst · Barclays

Okay. And then, I guess one more from me just on the kind of under banked FICO score, just wondering, how you guys are thinking about that, is it more of a public goodwill initiative, or is it really something that you think could start to generate revenue and what your strategies there?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Barclays

I would say its both. I mean there is a pretty large group of customers that are been found no file and hard to score with traditional bureau data. And in a world where we can start to use the other kinds of data to make these decisions, it makes all the sense in the world to produce scores on it. And we have been working with Equifax and LexisNexis for some time on putting this thing together. We are really pleased with the results. It took a while to bring it to market because we wanted to maintain the integrity of what the score represents. And so we feel pretty good about the decision makers wrapped around these new scores. Is it, do we think we are generating goodwill with that? I hope so. And we are hoping to open up credit markets for the under banked. How bigger market will this be? Time will tell. I think that there is definitely an appetite from lenders to reach these consumers and we will just see how long it takes. But I think there is definitely a business there.

GregBardi

Analyst · Barclays

Okay. It makes sense. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Good afternoon, everyone.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Hi, Bill.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

So a question for you on the B2B score side. You did about 11 billion scores last year, if I remember correctly. What's the run rate currently based on this quarter?

Mike Pung

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Yes. Bill, the overall volumes are up modestly. They are up higher on originations and a little bit lower on acquisition scores primarily due to a large client or two that have paired back on some of their marketing activities. But overall, we are running up about 3% or 4% in volume wise.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Got it. And then the – I wanted to ask about the – on the application side, and the SaaS offerings there. If you will give us a sense for about how much revenue was actually being generated on a SaaS basis, and then also a sense for your success selling into the small and mid-size clients in the U.S., and then also internationally?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Yes. So I don't have the exact number on the SaaS revenue this quarter, but I will tell you our SaaS business, the revenue that we are claiming is growing at around 5% clip. So mid-single digits. The backlog is growing at a rate slightly faster than that. In terms of kind of market penetration and market acceptance. We are continuing to work pipeline opportunities. We are seeing a lot of larger opportunities as well as smaller market opportunities come across our plate. But it's kind of slow as you go in terms of being able to get those deals in place, get them signed and then obviously convert them over to revenue.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Okay. And then jump back to the scores business, on the B2C side, with the Experian implementation on the direct subscribers, I wanted to ask what inning are we in, in terms of that process currently?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Well, for the quarter we just ended, our quarter two the revenue that is a component of our B2C from Experian came exclusively off of experian.com, which was launched on the 26 of December. Since the end of the quarter, other properties are becoming to convert over. And its – Experian game, they haven't reported any of those crossover numbers subscriber numbers to us yet that reporting will start coming across probably in about a month from now. But just for the knowledge here, we reported the numbers exclusively from experian.com.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Got it. Okay. And then, as you look down the road, I know that currently the arrangement is for solely the FICO score, is there – what do you think about the opportunity of being able to sell other products into that subscriber base over time things like the multiple scores that you had mentioned or maybe the score simulator or maybe something else that you are in the process of developing?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Yes. Bill, I think those are all good examples. We very much have the intension of continuing to enrich the offering to the consumer and those are all good candidates. With the multiple scores we have them up on myfico.com today; I guess that would put us in the forefront of sharing multiple scores with consumers. But, we are certainly willing and happy to have other partners share multiple scores with the consumers and from our standpoint we hope the market goes there. It would be a great thing. In terms of the simulator absolutely that's another natural and we have also talked about consumer card control as a potential offering. So there is a handful of things that are in the works.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Got it. And then one housekeeping item, on the buybacks you mentioned the – for the April buyback what was the actual dollar amount on that?

Mike Pung

Analyst · Wells Fargo

It was $30 million that was [certainly down] [ph] there, shares we brought back in April.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Okay. All right. I will see if anybody up – go back in the queue. Thank you.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Thanks Bill.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Brett Huff with Stephens Inc.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Good afternoon.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Hi, Brett.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Wanted to ask, a nice work on the apps growth that was obviously a really strong number, can you – I think you mentioned last quarter that you expected some renewals to happen maybe in the back half of the year and you talked sort of how the margin might go up as a result of some of those renewals in the back half, I think is how you described it. Is that still going to happen in the back half is – was the app strength to this quarter related to that or was this something from the pipeline, just kind of give us a sense of kind of what was the nature of the app win this quarter?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

No. We had in terms of the win this quarter, we had one renewal that happened this quarter and then we had several other pretty healthy deals that we signed. That renewal happened in the second quarter and we had anticipated that in our guidance. The renewals we talked about in the back half of the year are still scheduled. And we expect them to come through as a component in the guidance that we have given for the full year.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Okay. And then question on the B2C direct to consumer agreement with Experian, it sounds like that's potentially really nice channel, what is the pipeline look for you all in terms of other outlooks where other partners you might be able to distribute through or work with in similar nature?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

I can't speak to partnership discussions that are in the works. But, I will say that its our fervent hope that the entire industry adopts FICO scores instead of education scores because as you know FICO scores are the scores that lenders use and so many of the education scores that are being given to consumers are really not being used for credit decisioning purposes. So our goal is to see FICO scores, wherever consumers interested in and how their credit worthiness is being evaluated, we want the FICO score shared with them. And we are exploring all channels to make that happen including the most successful one so far which is Open Access.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

And then last one from me, I think somebody asked this about SaaS before, but and I'm not sure that this question was asked. The percentage of rev that is composed of SaaS products, if we get that number of percentage on – I forgot – I may have just missed that.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

No. I didn't have the number directly in front of me. I said the SaaS revenue was growing about 5% year-over-year that's claimable revenue. In general, I would have to look at up at our SaaS revenue was roughly 20% of our overall total revenue on an annual basis.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Okay. That's it for me. Thank you.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

That would include hosted and SaaS by the way.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Oh, hosted and SaaS, okay. Thank you.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Correct.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Matthew Galinko with Sidoti.

Matt Galinko

Analyst · Sidoti

Hey, thanks for taking my question. I guess – last quarter you talked about TONBELLER acquisition making a sort of the combination making FICO more strategic of vendors for compliance. I'm just curious where you are on technical integrations now around that acquisition and what the timeframe is, that we might see the benefits of becoming more strategic?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Sidoti

The technology that we acquired with the TONBELLER acquisition is being held in tact. We haven't done a lot of work to try to merge that with our products because it's not necessary. What we are doing is focusing on the sales and distribution piece. And what we have seen is that the way anti-money laundering products are increasingly being bought is in connection with the Chief Risk Officer with a broader view of the risk facing the financial institution. And so we are lining up our TONBELLER capabilities along with our Falcon Fraud capabilities and our Infoglide and so on to bring it to the same decision maker just really on the sales and distribution side more than on the technology integration.

Matt Galinko

Analyst · Sidoti

Fair enough. And then I guess one other quick one, just curious how if you could talk a little bit more also about the go-to-market plan with the cyber security technology.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Sidoti

Good question. The interest thing that's going on with the cyber security and how we play in that market is that our – our cyber solutions, which are a directly across our Falcon Fraud capabilities addressed cyber issues in real-time, which is not typical for the industry. And are able to score degree of threaten away that's not typical for the industry, usually the alerts are binary. And so we think we have some fairly distinctive capabilities in cyber. What we do not have is a strong self and distribution built there. And so right now we are working on more of an OEM basis with some of the major players to bring our technology to market along side theirs. A decision for us remains in the future whether it makes any sense to go direct. But right now our plan is to go through partners and channels.

Matt Galinko

Analyst · Sidoti

Got it. That's helpful. And do you have any kind of timeframe to just think about on when we might start seeing not necessarily meaningful, but any sort of revenue contribution from that.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Sidoti

Well, I think certainly not before next year.

Matt Galinko

Analyst · Sidoti

That's great. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next question is a follow-up question from Brett Huff with Stephens Inc.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Thanks. Just one quick follow-up, did you guys in your guidance it didn't change I know, have your perceptions, or your assumptions in your guidance changed since last quarter on the piece guidance in revenue that is Experian driven based on kind of the early returns, or is it kind of coming in as you guys expected it and it just kind of take some time to get these conversions done.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

No. It's coming in as we expected. We didn't make any kind of resource all of our guidance based upon the first three months worth of activity from Experian.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Okay. And then in terms of the after-tax or the charge, I think you said was $4 million, you guys called out, did that end up being where just from how its taxed, is that about a $0.08 hit to the reported numbers is that about, right?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Yes. It's between $0.08 and $0.09 a share and it related to the two pieces, the contract write-off and then just the cost of the acquisition at TONBELLER.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

And the contract write-off that -- just describe that again for me, I know you mentioned it, but I'm not sure understand kind of what that is?

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Yes. We are working on a large program outside the U.S. with a customer of ours, who are consolidating a number of legacy platforms and systems into a FICO platform. And the complexity of the project is driving some cost overruns and the accounts requires us to take any loss on – any estimated loss on a program like that when we know about it and that's why we booked this quarter.

Brett Huff

Analyst · Stephens Inc

Got you. Okay. That's it for me. Thank you.

Will Lansing

Analyst · Stephens Inc

You are welcome.

Operator

Operator

At this time there are no further questions.

Steve Weber

Analyst

Thank you. This concludes our call. Thank you all for joining.