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Flowers Foods, Inc. (FLO)

Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 12, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Flowers Foods Fourth Quarter and Fiscal 2014 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Paulette, and I will be your operator for today's call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Marta Jones Turner. You may begin.

Marta Turner

Analyst

Thank you Paula and good morning, everyone. We realized that today is a very busy day with multiple earnings releases and calls. So we really appreciate you're taking the time to join our call. Our fourth quarter and full year 2014 results were released earlier today and we expect to file the 10-K before the end of this month. You'll find the earnings release and our updated two page fact sheet on the Flowers Foods website. A PowerPoint presentation that supports our discussion for today is posted on the conference call page. Before we begin I must remind you that our presentation today may include forward-looking statements about our company's performance. Although we believe those statements to be reasonable they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. In addition to matters we'll discuss during the call important factors relating to Flowers Foods' business are fully detailed in our SEC filing. Before we get started with our discussion of the quarter and the year's results, I want to alert you that Flowers Foods will host Meet the Management luncheon at the New York Stock Exchange on Tuesday, April 14. Of course we'll send you more information later but we thought you'd want to note that day April 14th on your calendar. Now let's get started; participating on our call today, we have Allen Shiver, Flowers Foods President and Chief Executive Officer; and Steve Kinsey, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We'll open the call for your questions following our prepared remarks. Now Allen, I'll turn the call to you.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Thank you, Marta, and thank you for joining our call today. In fiscal 2014, our Flowers team made great strides integrating the new business that we've earned over the past two years. We've taken a number of steps to better manage our operating expenses and position the company for continued profitable growth. In 2014 we improved our manufacturing efficiencies, further developed our expansion markets, paid down debt, increased our dividend and repurchased shares. Looking ahead, we're focused on growing our branded business while consistently improving the quality of our sales. Also we see further opportunities to improve profitability and to drive earnings growth. We recognize that consumers expect innovation from our brands. In addition to an exciting assortment of new products that will be introduced throughout 2015 we're always working to enhance our current products by improving quality freshness and consumer appeal. We know that having the right assortment of the precious products on the shelf is a key driver of market share growth. To that end we are investing in technology that will enable us to better anticipate consumer demand and support our network of over 5,700 DSD territories. Currently our distribution network has accessed over 80% of U.S. population and we have substantial opportunity to grow share in our expansion markets. For example, this past summer we expanded into Northern Ohio where the strength of the Wonder brand allowed us to increase sales of Nature’s Own, Cobblestone Bread Company and TastyKake Brands in those markets. Additionally, we have increased distribution on the east and on the west coast where sales growth we expect in those large markets will be supported by the capacity that we have recently added in those regions. During 2014, we experience continued growth in markets such as Boston and Kansas City. Helped by our…

Steve Kinsey

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Thank you, Allen. Good morning, everyone. Before I get into the operation results, I would like to address several items that we highlighted in the release. First during the quarter we revised sales for certain discount from cash sales that were historically reported as selling distribution and administrative to a counter [ph] revenue account. After review of the character of these discounts we determined they were better classified as a counter revenues and selling expense. To facilitate comparability between periods we have revised sales for all periods presented. We get include with the press release a schedule that reconciles the impact of this revision for all periods impacted. The overall impact on net sales is immaterial and there was no effect on earnings. The revision does slightly impact overall margins as a percent of sales but not in a significant way. Second, as we disclosed in our third quarter call as part of our pension de-risking strategy, we offered a lump sum payment to certain eligible former employees. This was a limited time offer and during the fourth quarter we completed this phase of the strategy. As a result we did take a non-cash pension settlement accounting charge of approximately $15.4 million or $0.05 per share. This charge is in line with the amount provided to you in the third quarter call. Based on the overall acceptance of the offer the pension plan distributed approximately $50.4 million in lump sum payments from existing plan assets in December. These payments did not materially affect the company’s required contributions for 2014 or 2015. Finally during the fourth quarter we recognized an asset impairment of approximately $5.8 million or $0.02 per share relating to the sale of certain assets acquired in the Hostess acquisition. The impairment is the result of the offer price…

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Thank you Steve. Before we take your questions I want to take time to thank our entire Flowers team for the hard work from this past year. We improved operations which allowed us to reward shareholders by paying down debt, increasing our dividend and repurchasing shares. Looking forward I'm confident on our 2015 guidance. We expect our sales growth to be driven by continued development of our expansion markets and the benefit of new business we’ve earned in our core markets. We will continue to grow from our retail branded business Cobblestone and TastyKake we will be rolling out new items that will drive sales. We expect our expansion markets to post strong growth as Nature’s Own, Wonder and the other acquired brands gain share in the large markets that we recently entered on both the East and the West Coast. We anticipate that our earnings growth will be driven by the additional sales volume that I just discussed, as well as the benefits rollout from our efforts to improve operations at Lepage, reduce sale [ph] overall, exit low margin business and sell our non-strategic assets. As always we remain focused on the long-term looking for opportunities to grow sales and reward our shareholders by leveraging the national awareness of our brands and fully developing our DSD and our warehouse distribution platforms. Thank you. We'll now open the call for your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. And our first question comes from Farha Aslam from Stephens. Please go ahead.

Farha Aslam

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Hi, good morning.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Good morning Farha.

Farha Aslam

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Two questions, the first is could you just talk about the promotional cadence in the quarter and what's your outlook for 2015 in terms of price promotions in the category overall?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Farha the promotional environment really has not changed from our last call. Again it continues to be a market by market situation but overall the marketplace remains competitive and really there is no dramatic change from last quarter.

Farha Aslam

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

That's helpful and then could you go through your commodity outlook in terms of overall, how significant the benefit in terms of the decline in wheat will be for you guys as well as some declines in further type [ph] of corn syrup and sugar et cetera.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Sure. When you look at the next year of commodity outlook generally Farha we're looking at low single digit today based on how we are covered. Obviously we're not fully covered for the year so if wheat continues or other commodity continues to move down we do have the opportunity to benefit more. Generally speaking we're down across most ingredient categories. Packaging is one item that will be up for us. We do anticipate some relief in plastic bag due to the fall back in crude from a resin perspective. But overall I'd say the whole input basket will be down low single digits.

Farha Aslam

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

That's very helpful. Thank you so much.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Thank you Farha.

Steve Kinsey

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Thanks Farha.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Eric Katzman from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Hi. Good morning everybody.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Good morning Eric.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

It seems like you may have turn the cost - may have turn the corner on your costs, so that's good. I think you kind of mentioned and this is kind of a follow-up to Farha's question but I think you mentioned that you were hoping for a better promotional environment in 2015. Is that kind of built into your forecast or does the margin expansion that you have implied in the guidance is that really based just on internal stuff.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Eric as far as a promotional environment we really have not made any assumptions, dramatic assumptions looking forward for improvement. If there is improvement in the pricing in the marketplace there would be some upside there.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Okay, all right. And then I don't recall in all the years I have followed you, I don't recall where you've been I guess maybe or similarly as vocal about the M&A landscape and Allen maybe you could touch on that a bit more, is this more local and regional bread suppliers who are feeling the pressure of the consolidation that's occurred in the category? Are you talking more in snack cakes, other baked goods type of products and are the - I guess the multiples that these sellers are looking for, do they, from your perspective at this point appear fairly reasonable?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Eric, on the fresh bread bun or roll side there are some independent bakers that would fit very nicely with our company. As always we continue to maintain good relationships and contact with those companies. On the cake side we're excited about our progress with TastyKake brand and feel we've got some momentum going into next year to continue building our cake business. But once again we look at offered - all opportunities and we'll do a thorough valuation of each one and the good news with the strength of our balance sheet if we see right opportunity we can take advantage of it. But really nothing significant in terms of the companies that are available, I think you are probably looking at the same list that we have there.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead

Okay, all right, I will pass it on. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Akshay Jagdale from KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Good morning.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Good morning Akshay.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

I jumped on few minutes late but the gross margin performance is really what I wanted to focus on first, it came in my estimate. I mean it was one of the best gross margin performance that you had in quite a while. Would you agree with that characterization and can you help me understand the drivers of that. I know usually when you put out your 10-Q we have the segment disclosure so can you give us some color at the segment level what drove the gross margin and just help me characterize from your perspective the gross margin performance this quarter?

Steve Kinsey

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Sure Akshay this is Steve. Some of the driver on the gross margin actually the fact that we were able to exit some low margin business in both warehouse and DSD. If you recall we did exit some store branded sales at DSD and then we had existed certain tortilla business in our food service warehouse group. So that was the driver. Another big driver in the quarter or one of the bigger driver, I think one of the primary drivers was efficiency improvements. Efficiency for the quarter came out about 93.5%. So that’s up dramatically over last year where it was about 91.5%. So it’s about 200 basis points improvements from a efficiency standpoint. So just overall that improved production cost less, so we were able to more efficiently produce product at a better cost. So I would say if I had to point to one big driver I would say would be the efficiency gain in the quarter and we also had fewer purchases and that meant we were shifting productions into our home plants so the quality and overall cost of production was down from that perspective as well.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

So how much of the year-over-year gross margin pre D&A improvement was related to efficiencies, was it - I think your gross margins were up 133 basis points. How much roughly was that - was efficiency driven?

Steve Kinsey

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Efficiencies were probably 50 to 60 basis points of that.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Okay and so again the way I view that is what’s in your control, you finally start to hit on like you have been for so many years. The other part it is as you talk about rightsizing the business and your SG&A, the sales have been somewhat choppy and hard to model. So can you give us a sense of when you say rightsizing the business, how much of those efforts are focused on at the plant level gross margin and how much of it is SG&A and when should we start to see some of that pull through and is it in your guidance basically?

Steve Kinsey

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Yeah, actually in our guidance we do have some of the right sizing of the business. We started those efforts in the fourth quarter and most of those I would say most of the bigger efforts, the actions are completed so we will begin to pick up some of that benefit in the first quarter of 2015. Generally speaking SG&A, two things are going on there. One we have sold more routes so distributor discounts are up because of the we are continuing to enter expansion you are not typically seeing the full benefit you get as you began to operate under independent distributors. So we are still maintaining some employee related cost with respect to distribution. So you will continue to see I think a slightly elevated SG&A as we develop these new market and what we are not willing to share today but at our April analyst day we will talk about the next facility that we plan to open in one of our expansion markets and that will also begin to help work on SG&A as a percent of sales. So we do expect that to come down as a percent of sales in 2015. It is not necessarily hugely significant but there should be some improvement in 2015.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Okay, great. And then the last one on - you were pretty aggressive on share buybacks I think the most you bought back in dollar terms in quite a while. Should we read into that march or can you help us understand how you are thinking about buybacks as it relates to ’15?

Steve Kinsey

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Sure, I think when you look at the year in the quarter cash flow was great. I mean it was extremely strong. We feel very confident about debt repayment our debt levels then where we were they gave us great opportunity to go into the market in past years. Looking into 2015 I think we will stay with our strategy for the most part of buying in - shares are dilutive from our stock based comp program but as always continues to be strong we are able to continue to focus on the dividend and other shareholders initiatives. And our share repurchases are still the top way that we see to deliver value to our shareholders. So I think again our forecast are for cash flow to continue to be there so the cash flow will continue to be there. So I think share repurchases will continue to be a big part of cash allocation strategy.

Akshay Jagdale

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Okay. And just one last one on promotions. I think you have mentioned in the past that what’s happening with private label and branded mix is the brands are promoting too much and so people are shifting from private label to branded and that’s not really effective. Can you expand on that? I mean is that pretty much what again happened this quarter and aren’t the retailers seeing that net-net that’s negative for the profit pool of the industry and if they are seeing it, why aren’t they - why are seeing those trends play out?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · KeyBanc. Please go ahead

Akshay, the private label actually was down slightly for the total year. We continue to see the promotional activity on the branded side but as I mentioned earlier no real change from last quarter. As far as how the retailers is looking at mix and their profitability, selling more branded product is certainly the right move for them as well as for the baker. So I anticipate some level of promotional activity is going to continue and we are planning for that as we look at it, better pricing began to improve on the branded side. There is also room for pricing to move up on the private label side as well and that would be very helpful and healthy for the entire category.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Brett M. Hundley from BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Good morning Allen.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Good morning.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

My first question it sounds to me that things are less competitive in your expansionary markets then they are in your core markets is that a fair characterization or am I off with that statement?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Well I think you are off with that and it is a competitive marketplace whether we are dealing in our core markets or whether we are looking at expansion markets but I think the message that’s not news, that has not changed. It is the same environment we have dealing with for over a year now.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yes. And so has that, just given what has been happening for over a year now what’s in the competitive landscape has that changed your strategy at all, maybe you have become more selective about where you want to expand, maybe you are thinking that you are not going to expand as fully as you would have before. Has that made you any more tactical do you still believe that the strategy that you had in place for multiple years now that is the one that can work?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Brett, as far as our pricing strategy I think you can look at IRi data and see that in most cases Flower is the price leader whether it is core market or whether it is in expansion market. So our strategy really has not changed on price. In terms of expanding and growing the company there is, we continue to be focused on the population centers where our brands have opportunity and really the pricing environment in this new market is not a determine to our expansion. The pricing environment is pretty much represented in the category in most markets that we’re in today and the new markets are, I wouldn’t say any better or any worse.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay, and then I want to lead into cake. One of the things we’ve certainly noticed in our market here is retailers putting a lot more cake on the floor, putting a lot more cake on shelf display. And looks like it’s taken some space away from either fresh bread or even breakfast type offerings. And I’m just curious if you’ve seen that continue here into Q1 as far as just a bigger exposure to cake and maybe some room taken away from fresh bread?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yeah, there was a lot of excitement in the cake category, that’s reflected an outright displays and I mentioned some of our seasonal tasty cake items. Our team’s done a great job of taking advantage of the impulse nature of cake. And it’s really an incremental sale for the retailer. I don’t see cake, I don’t see focusing on cake really taking away from the bread category at all. I mean is an add on incremental sales and especially when it comes to outright displays. But I think you are right there is some excitement in the cake category and that certainly is resonant with our independent distributors with our TastyKake brand, but that is incremental, it’s not taking away from bread or buns.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay. And it’s good to see the cake - it was good to see your cake shares moderating some and I’m wondering if you can just maybe give an example or two moves that you guys have been taking to kind of stem any share losses or any share losses in cake going forward?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

No. Again cake is a very much impulse and we’ve got some really exciting new products that - some have already been introduced and some are in the queue for 2015. But cake is all about excitement emphasis and focus. And now that our distributors we have expanded a significant number of new independent distributors over the past two years. And now as we kind of to settle down and bed down those new individuals in their territories, taking advantage of add-on sales with cake is an opportunity. So even though there’s is activity in the category from competition, we’re faring well with focus on our TastyKake brand.

Brett Hundley

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay. I appreciate the comments. Thank you.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BB&T Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tim Ramey from Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

Thanks so much, good morning.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

Good morning, Tim.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

I just wanted to focus for a second on the sale outlook for ’15. It’s been my observation that private label is often times done on a pass-through basis in terms of costs. So in a declining input price environment they can bring their prices down a little faster than the branded players, given your hedging position and sort of longer term commitments that you have. Is that a fair observation for ‘15 and kind of what effect do you think private label will have on ’15, you did point out that it was a small decline in terms of share in ’14?

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

I think with category management, our retailers are probably doing a better job today, identifying the profitability of this whole fresh bakery category. And I think there is better information with our retailers about how private label can enhance their margin. And there’s learning that consumers are not going to change where they purchase groceries based on the price of private label bread. So I'm actually encouraged that with consolidation, which quite frankly the bulk of the consolidation has taken place in the industry, we mentioned earlier there is some independent bakers that are still there. But a better understanding by the retailers of the profit contribution of those private label and brand to their business I think is growing. So I don't anticipate a decline in private label prices as we go into next year.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

And if you think about your impact, I mean I agree that the gross margin was the upside surprise in the quarter. Does that mean that we should model gross margin higher in '15 versus '14 or would we continue to see some cross currents there.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

Yeah I think coming in to '15 if you look at the guidance and the range you could see gross margin flat to up another 30 or 40 basis points. So we anticipate - we do have modeled into our guidance range some movement and improvement in gross margin.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

Okay terrific thanks.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group. Please go ahead

Yes thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Sharma from BMO. Please go ahead. Amit, your line is now open. And we move onto the next question. Our next question comes from Stephanie Benjamin from SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Stephanie Benjamin

Analyst · BMO. Please go ahead. Amit, your line is now open. And we move onto the next question. Our next question comes from Stephanie Benjamin from SunTrust. Please go ahead

Hi this is actually Stephanie on for Bill Chappell. My first question has to deal with your expansion into some of the east markets. And have you seen any kind of just impact from the recent snow and bad weather? And then my second question just have to do with just a little more color on your share performance in cake and where you are in relation to your 12% goal by 2018, thanks.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BMO. Please go ahead. Amit, your line is now open. And we move onto the next question. Our next question comes from Stephanie Benjamin from SunTrust. Please go ahead

Stephanie, our team has done a great job, especially in the past month of dealing with the weather issues in the Northeast. We've gotten accolades from many of our trade customers, that Flowers’ distributor was the only distributors taking care of our business during the bad weather. When bad weather occurs we do see a bump in sales because our team is out there taking care of business. So I'm encouraged with the way that we've started the year in spite of some difficult weather conditions in the Northeast. We're also encouraged with our expansion. I mentioned the New York market but really the entire Northeast represents significant opportunity for our company to grow share and we're very focused on that with not just Nature’s own brand but also with our Wonder brand which was a very strong brand in that market. So very bullish about continued growth in the Northeast. On your question concerning our cake commitment to getting to our share levels, we remain very bullish about going our cake market. And if you again it's if you look at year-over-year, it's not really a completely fair comparison on cake. If you look back to 2012, I think you'll see a significant growth in our overall cake business. So we're bullish about growing the cake business and we'll do that on the strength of our independent distributors.

Stephanie Benjamin

Analyst · BMO. Please go ahead. Amit, your line is now open. And we move onto the next question. Our next question comes from Stephanie Benjamin from SunTrust. Please go ahead

Now that's very helpful. Thanks so much.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · BMO. Please go ahead. Amit, your line is now open. And we move onto the next question. Our next question comes from Stephanie Benjamin from SunTrust. Please go ahead

Yes, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And I will now turn the call back over to Alan Shiver for closing remarks.

Allen Shiver

Analyst · Stephens. Please go ahead

Thank you very much for your attention today. Thank you very much for your support. Again we hope to see all of you at our Analyst Day which is April the 14th in New York City. Thank you for your attention and we will adjourn.