That's a great question, Eric. Having come off really a very long era, as we know, of very, very low interest rates, even at 4%, 5%, 6%, 7%, 8%, it rankles a lot of people, creates a lot of uncertainty. The forecasts at the national level really haven't been all that accurate recently, which I think has caused, this is just my opinion, a degree of uncertainty: Well, what's really going to happen with interest rates? And as a footnote, I think it's in some way a fallout from the pandemic and the disrupting of a lot of the economic forces at work. So if you look historically, interest rates aren't extremely high, but I do think that, apparently, there's a very wide perception of input that we get that people, a lot of end customers are waiting for interest rates to mitigate a little bit before they execute these orders on forklifts and batteries, thinking that going some forecast interest rates are going to decline. I'm just saying it's one that's a little bit, it requires a little bit of crystal ball to interpretate exactly what's happening. But you have to remember that the equipment we're talking about, particularly the forklifts, more the forklifts than the batteries, the forklifts don't suddenly die and have to be replaced. And that gives the asset managers in these warehouses and factories some wiggle room on the timing of this stuff. So there's not a big high risk in that. Now having said that, these forklifts don't last forever. The batteries sure done. The batteries have a limited life. And so I think I don't see this as very long term, nor do we get that from the input of our large customers.