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Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Mar 6, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you, for standing by. My name is [Natalie], and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Finance of America Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Fant, Senior Vice President of Finance. Please go ahead.

Michael Fant

Analyst

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Finance of America's fourth quarter and full-year 2023 earnings call. With me today are Graham Fleming, Chief Executive Officer; Kristen Sieffert, President; and Matt Engel, Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, this call is being recorded, and you can find the earnings release and presentation on our Investor Relations website at www.financeofamerica.com. In addition, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures on this call. To the extent available without unreasonable efforts, you can find reconciliations of non-GAAP to GAAP financial measures discussed on today's call in our earnings press release on the Investor Relations page of our website. Also, I would like to remind everyone that comments on this conference call may be forward-looking statements. Within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding the company's expected operating and financial performance for future periods. These statements are based on the company's current expectations and are subject to the safe harbor statement for forward-looking statements that you will find in today's earnings release. Actual results for future periods may differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements due to a number of risks or other factors, including those that are described in the Risk Factors section of Finance of America's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022, filed with the SEC on March 16, 2023. As such, risk factors may be amended and updated in our subsequent filings with the SEC. We are not undertaking any commitment to update these statements if conditions change. Please note, today, we will be discussing interim period financials that are unaudited. Now I would like to turn the call over to Finance of America's Chief Executive Officer, Graham Fleming. Graham?

Graham Fleming

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, Michael. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. To begin, I would like to review our results as well as the broader macro trends we are seeing in the industry. I will then turn things over to Kristen to share our strategic plan followed by a review of our financials from our Chief Financial Officer, Matt Engel. Overall, 2023 was a transformational period for Finance of America. Throughout the year, we completed a series of strategic transactions that helped establish the company as the preeminent platform for homeowners 55 and older seeking to benefit from their home equity. With most of these efforts now behind us, we are excited to move forward. As a business, we are firmly positioned as the leading provider of modern retirement solutions with the potential to reach tens of millions of customers nationwide. For additional information, we have included a presentation on our Investor Relations website that addresses the potential total addressable market and our view of the investment opportunity. Finance of America is making home equity part of a mainstream, modern retirement plan so that more Americans can benefit from the wealths in their home and have better outcomes later in life. With respect to our continuing operations, we recorded GAAP net income of $171 million or $0.72 per basic share in the fourth quarter. These results were driven primarily by fair value gains, recognized in our portfolio of assets given decreases in market rates in the quarter and improved results from operations, which we will discuss shortly. On an adjusted basis, in the fourth quarter, we recognized a net loss of $20 million or $0.09 per fully diluted share, an improvement over the third quarter of 20%. Beginning in Retirement Solutions, as expected, volumes decreased in the quarter due to seasonality, but improved margins and reduced expenses led to a 67% improvement in adjusted net loss for the quarter. In Portfolio Management, market volatility had a significant impact on quarterly results. In the fourth quarter, decreases across the yield curve brought about significant increases in fair value of our portfolio of assets. Over the course of the year, the net balance increased by $24 million. Having established a solid foundation from which to grow, we are excited for what lies ahead. We continue to look at avenues to expand our product suite, enhance the customer experience and drive conversion. These include identifying ways to utilize AI. We have selected key AI partners and are excited to leverage these tools across sales, operations, marketing and data analytics. Additionally, we remain focused on managing expenses and strengthening our balance sheet for the long-term. Let me now turn things over to Kristen for an update on our operations, the integration of the AAG retail platform and the work we've been doing to enhance our products and sales channels. Kristen?

Kristen Sieffert

Analyst

Good afternoon. As Graham mentioned, our vision is to make home equity an essential part of a modern mainstream retirement plan. We've designed a three-year strategic plan that we believe will enable us to achieve this goal, while also helping us provide the most value to those we serve, including our shareholders. A key factor for advancing that plan was moving to one loan origination platform, which was the last major milestone related to the integration of the AAG retail platform. This was launched in late December as planned, and the beginning of this year will be devoted to improving the efficiencies of that platform and ensuring we have strong workflows to support the originations engine and the planned growth. With much of the foundational work close to being completed, it paves the way for a shift of attention to the growth levers in the plan. We think Finance of America's modern retirement platform will create long-term growth at scale, and we have a few main reasons for this confidence. The first is that we see a significant addressable market, which we believe we're well positioned to capture as the category grows. Reverse mortgages are utilized by approximately 2% of the total addressable market. As the industry's leading retail and wholesale originator, Finance of America has close to 40% market share of this activity. We have our eyes fixed on driving market penetration over the long-term so that as the total pie grows, we will have the ability to meaningfully increase our reach and impact as well. When you consider the nearly $3.7 trillion retirement savings gap and the record number of seniors who are financially unprepared for retirement using traditional vehicles alone, a solution must emerge. The obvious one is to incorporate the $13 trillion in home equity held…

Matthew Engel

Analyst

Thank you, Kristen, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm excited to have joined the Finance of America team. We have a compelling story to tell and are at an exciting inflection point in the business. I look forward to speaking with and meeting many of you over the coming months. With that, let me start with a brief overview of our financial results before I dive into specifics on the quarter. Within our continuing operations, we recognized GAAP net income of $171 million or $0.72 per basic share. Turning to the operating results. The company recognized an adjusted net loss of $20 million for the quarter or $0.09 per fully diluted share, an improvement of 20% from the third quarter. In our reverse platform, volumes decreased in the fourth quarter due to seasonality. Additionally, as Kristen mentioned, we began the consolidation of our loan origination system during the quarter, further impacting retail production. We originated $436 million in loan volumes, down 7% from the $470 million in the third quarter. For the full-year, we originated $1.6 billion in funded loan volume. While volumes were down compared to the prior year, maintaining industry's leading retail and leading wholesale platforms, allowed Finance of America to control a 37% share of the HECM reverse market and a significant portion of the non-agency market. Retirement Solutions' fourth quarter revenue margin was 9.2%, an improvement of nearly 18% from the prior quarter. This is even more stark when looking at the monthly margins during the quarter. During October, when market rates reached their peak, our revenue margin fell to 7.4%, the lowest level since the acquisition of the AAG platform. By December, following the decline in market rates, our revenue margin peaked to 11.3% or the highest level of the year. So far, during the first…

Graham Fleming

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, Matt. 2023 was a year of significant transformation for our business. In the face of an uncertain macro environment, we believe we both improved and strengthened our operations via acquisition and streamline their business to establish a foundation for success moving forward. More importantly, the overarching demographics in the U.S. continue to make us confident in the long-term value of our business. The proportion of retirees is at an all-time high and growing. At a time when most don't have nearly enough save for retirement, and older homeowners, as a whole, have more than $13 trillion in home equity. We believe we are well positioned to benefit from a more favorable interest rate environment and a growing customer base open to utilizing their home equity to help them thrive in retirement. And with that, we'll open the call up for some questions.

Operator

Operator

The floor is open for your questions. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Stephen Laws with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon.

Graham Fleming

Analyst

Hey, Steven.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Hi, Graham. First, Matt, actually I want to start with you based on a couple of comments you made. I think you said in February, you did two securitizations, which freed up some cash. Were those – I think one was a refinance. Can you talk about demand for those deals on your securitizations and then how much liquidity or cash does that free up? And what are you able to do with that incremental cash?

Matthew Engel

Analyst

So I think overall demand for those deals was strong. They're fully subscribed. We sold all the bonds in the stack. They were received pretty well in the market. With that cash, we're just – ongoing cash grow the business, continue to invest in the HomeSafe production, and that causes some cash in remainder of months until you do the next securitization. That's kind of the main use of it. The rest of the – this kind of corporate cleanup is behind us in 2023, as Graham mentioned. So a lot of that cash burn of the past is behind us.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

And then what's the outlook for additional securitization calls. Do you have any more deals that you may call and lever back up in a new deal? Or how do you think about the call opportunity going forward?

Graham Fleming

Analyst

Yes. So answer that this way, Stephen, right? So obviously, there's something in the range of 30 deals outstanding. We look at them – look, first of all, we look at our operating liquidity needs over the coming years. We look at the value of these residuals at the auction date and at the call date. And we make – we do not have a specific plan at this time to call more deals, but obviously, we'll look at the economic value and maximize that kind of crossover between the liquidity and the economics. But as you can see from the Q4 results, there's a lot of value now inherent in these residuals, and we'll call and reissue as we see fit, depending upon the call date or the mandatory or the auction date – or the mandatory or the call date. But there is definitely opportunity to generate liquidity by calling and reissuing some of these past deals.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

So, I guess along those lines, do you expect to build cash as you think about where we'll end Q1? How do you expect to see cash balance maintained as we move through the first half of this year?

Matthew Engel

Analyst

I don't think we'll really start to build cash in the first half of the year. It's a bit of a delay as the retail origination platform kind of gets the volume going back up. So we get some additional production, do the HomeSafe deals towards maybe the end of the second quarter into the third quarter. I think I would not expect to see a large cash build certainly in the first half of the year.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Great. And then, Matt, just to make sure I got my notes down. I think you said kind of continuing to target $300 million a month and does that volume level still support some longer-term A&I outlook of $0.40 annually. Is that what you said?

Matthew Engel

Analyst

That's exactly right.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Great. And then lastly for me for now, I think one of your competitors may be priced the deal pretty attractively in Q1. Can you talk about – we're almost into the quarter, but I realize things could change in the next 25 days. But how do you think about, or how are the year-to-date fair value changes? Certainly, Q4 was a welcome relief factor that being a headwind in the summer last year. But how is year-to-date fair value changes trending?

Matthew Engel

Analyst

So look, obviously, there's three major components, Stephen, all right. And that number one is the rates, right, which we're not exactly sure where rates will finish at the end of quarter, we've kind of seen – we've seen it move up about 30 basis points and come back down a little bit here. The second component is spreads, we've seen spreads definitely tightening in here at the beginning of the year, not just on our proprietary product, but also on our agency HECM product. And the last piece is HPA, right? It's remained robust. We're waiting on some days to come out here in March, which hopefully supports what we've seen from Case-Shiller, but if that's positive and spreads are tight and rates are, let's say, rates come down a little further before the end of the quarter. It should be an overall positive impact for fair value.

Stephen Laws

Analyst

Great. Appreciate the comments this afternoon. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Doug Harter with UBS. Your line is open.

Cory Johnson

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Hi. This is Cory Johnson on for Doug Harter. I just wanted to see, could you talk me through, is there any way to perhaps limit the mark-to-market volatility of the balance sheet and/or reduce the balance sheet intensity of the business?

Graham Fleming

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Unfortunately, right, these are GAAP – right, these are GAAP issues, and these are all mandated in accordance with GAAP. So there's no ideas right at the top of my head, other than marking everything to zero, which obviously GAAP won't allow us to do. It is based on some – close to almost a $10 billion UPB balance. So relatively speaking, it is basis points. But Matt, anything to add?

Matthew Engel

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

No, I think if you always look at – I think the question we sometimes get is around hedging and whether you put big hedges in place. There's upsides and downsides of that from a liquidity standpoint when the rates should go against you. So something we look at from time to time. We've hedged some in the past. We'll consider doing some in the future. But right now, given we are in the rate cycle, we'll pay with some of this volatility and it's moving kind of back in our favor.

Cory Johnson

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you. And I want to see, is the path to operating profitability going to be through increased revenue? Or is it – or is there further expense reductions that could take place?

Graham Fleming

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Yes, there's a little more on the expense side, right, that we're going to tackle in Q2, primarily revenue margins have improved. We don't expect them to be much higher than they were in December. So the path to profitability now has increased volume, which we also expect to see increased volume as we're through this loan origination consolidation. We're currently anticipating A&I profitability kind of over towards the end of Q2 over the summer, right? So we do have a path to return to A&I profitability.

Cory Johnson

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks. And just last question for me. Can you maybe talk to me a little bit about the outlook for reverse origination volumes in the current rate environment?

Kristen Sieffert

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Yes. I would say that right now, it's probably less about the current rate environment and just about getting the kind of operating platform and the technology integration completed. We've got the levers to pull to drive the growth. We just need to do so from a stable foundation, which is what we've been mainly focused on over the last two quarters. And so the plan is to incrementally begin growing the production volume through the course of this year and well into the future. And obviously, when rates come down, it makes it easier. But with where rates are today, we still believe in the growth model that we have.

Cory Johnson

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open.

Great. Thank you. Appreciate the answer.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Lee Cooperman with Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Thank you. I have four questions, and maybe one you already responded to. What are the expectations for recurring operating earnings? Somebody mentioned on the call, the volatility the $0.40 to $0.50 that you mentioned, was that recurring operating earnings this year or your objectives down the road? That's question one.

Matthew Engel

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

So Lee, the $0.40 to $0.50 will be based on $300 million a month of originations. We're currently averaging somewhere around $140 million to $150 million. So we're going to need to grow into that. We would expect to be on a path for that towards the end of this year. I don't think we're going to achieve $0.40 to $0.50.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

So what is your expectation for operating earnings this year? Do you have one? Are you willing to share?

Matthew Engel

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

We haven't provided that specific guidance. I would say that our submissions and our pipelines are growing. We're optimistic that the volume will grow over the course of the year. We haven't given out specific...

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

It's an open mic, it's an open platform. Do you want to make a statement? Or you'd rather not?

Matthew Engel

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

I'd rather not at this point, Lee.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Second, how do you rate your capital adequacy to conduct a business that you want to conduct the way you want to conduct it. Do you have adequate capital?

Graham Fleming

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

We do have adequate capital. We are constantly kind of addressing our needs as we see fit with warehouse lines, timing our securitization lines of credit and so forth. So we believe we're properly capitalized for our growth in 2024.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

I don't follow with that closely the way I own a lot of shares. There was an enormous increase in the share count from $88 million to $229 million fully diluted basically, what is the actual share count currently, fully diluted? Is it the $229.3 million? If you look at Page 7 of your press release.

Matthew Engel

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

That's the fully diluted share count, yes, Lee.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

What account is for the $200 million and I'd say, about $150 million to $140 million increased shares.

Matthew Engel

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

There wasn't a – I don't think there was a $140 million share increase...

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Well, it says here on Page 7 of your release, the basic weighted average shares outstanding was 88.4 and the dilution – the diluted shares are 229.3. And a year ago, it was 87.7. So it's pretty big...

Graham Fleming

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Yes, Lee. No, so that actually has to do with the method by which we run the if converted or fully diluted EPS calc. And so because it is not dilutive, right? Or just anti-dilutive on the fully-diluted view when you add in all shares for that GAAP requires us to just use the basic share count instead. So that's why you can see the basic and diluted per share number is the same in each of those periods. It's just Q4 of this year, where the diluted EPS is dilutive compared to basic.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

You mentioned your view about interest rates. I happen to be of the view that short rates could drop, but long rates are not going to go down and the effective will probably go up. What's more important to the 90-day bill rate or the 10-year rate? The reason I say what I say is prior to the Great Financial Crisis, the 10-year bond used to yield in line with nominal GDP, assuming 2% real growth and 3% inflation, that will be 5%. The 10-year wouldn't be undervalue...

Matthew Engel

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

We're not quite out as far as the 10-year, Lee. What's important to us is probably in the five- to seven-year range.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Five- to seven-year, that rate goes down, whatever. But the 10-year rate is less significant to you than the short-term rates?

Graham Fleming

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Yes, our assets are up probably seven-year duration. And then – so that's kind of where we're focused on the curve.

Lee Cooperman

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Got you. Okay. Thank you very much. Good luck.

Graham Fleming

Analyst · Omega Family Office. Your line is open.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Fleming, I'll turn the call back over to you.

Graham Fleming

Analyst

Yes. So I'd like to thank everybody for joining the call, and we look forward to our updates at the end of Q1, which we expect in May. So thank you, everybody, and good night.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.