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Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 6, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Twenty-First Century Fox Fourth Quarter 2014 Earnings Release Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Mr. Reed Nolte, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you very much Ryan. Hello, everyone and welcome to our fourth quarter fiscal 2014 earnings conference call. On the call today we have Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Chase Carey, President and Chief Operating Officer and James Murdoch Co-Chief Operating Officer; and John Nallen, our Chief Financial Officer. First, we’ll give you some prepared remarks, and then we'll be happy to take questions from the investment community. This call may include certain forward-looking information with respect to 21st Century Fox's business and strategy. Actual results could differ materially from what is said. The Company's Form 10-K for the 12-months ended June 30, 2014 identifies risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ and these statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in such filings. Additionally, this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measurements, the definition of and a reconciliation of such measures can be found in our earnings release and our 10-K filing. Please note that certain financial measures used in this call such as segment operating income before depreciation and amortization, often referred to as EBITDA, and adjusted earnings per share are expressed on a non-GAAP basis. The GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures is included in our earnings release. Also note that the historical results for periods prior to June 28, 2013 described in the press release and on this call have been adjusted to reflect the separation that was completed at the end of fiscal 2013. And with that, I'm pleased to turn it over to Rupert.

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

Thank you, Reed. Good afternoon, everyone. And thank you very much for joining us today. I would like to start with some of the remarks and turn it over to John to review our financial performance. After that, Chase will provide an operational update before we move on to questions and answers. Let me take a moment to highlight what we have achieved since introducing Twenty-First Century Fox to you at our August 2013 Investor Day. That day we provided a road map for how we intended to achieve industry-leading performance in the first fiscal year since our separation. We executed well against this plan, tackled challenges and continue to be focused on the strategic objectives we presented to you a year ago. Financially, we just concluded this past fiscal year with the strongest quarter of the year. Our earnings growth this year has been broad-based. It has been driven by the themes you know well by now. Strong affiliate revenue momentum domestically and abroad, continued growth of retransmission fees, and increased content monetization. Taken together, we found this quarter's confidence in our ability to achieve our fiscal 2015 and 2016, even as we continue to invest in our long-term growth. We are committed to delivering value for our shareholders, not only through earnings growth, but also through robust capital returns. In that regard, yesterday, our Board authorized a new $6 billion share buyback program. It is effective immediately and will be completed within 12-months. Just as we have completed the $4 billion share buyback program authorized last August. We believe buying are own stock when it is underpriced represents a unique opportunity to maximize shareholder value over the long-term. And at these levels, we believe our stock is severely undervalued. We have had a busy year considering and executing…

John Nallen

Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Rupert and good afternoon. As you will see in today's earnings release, we finished the year by delivering our strongest quarterly financial performance, which sets up very well to achieve our growth targets in fiscal 2015 and 2016. First, I will make a few comments related to our fiscal year results, then a more detailed review on the fourth quarter, and finally, on our outlook. For the full-year, total revenues were $31.9 billion, up 15% over year ago levels led by double-digit revenue growth of the cable network and film segments and the effect of the full year consolidation of Sky Deutschland. Total segment EBITDA for the year was $6.72 billion, 7% higher than the prior-year. This growth was driven by higher contributions from all of the company's segments with more than half of this growth generated by our cable networks. Our EBITDA growth was achieved, despite absorbing the 17% increase in total company expenses including our investment spending in the new cable sports networks and FXX, as well as the impact of the full year consolidation of Sky D. Reported net income from continuing operations this year was $3.8 billion or $1.67 per share. And this included $174 million of income reported in other net. This largely reflects gains on the sales and investments, partially offset by the impact of the exchange revaluation in Venezuela. Additionally, our full year results include gains of $134 million from participating in BSkyB's buyback program. Excluding the net income effects of these and comparable items in both years, adjusted earnings per share from continuing operations was $1.55 compared to the adjusted year-ago result of $1.36 of 14% improvement year-on-year. So now let me turn and focus on the fourth quarter results. As expected, the fourth quarter was our strongest quarter of the…

Chase Carey

President

Okay. Thanks, John. As is evidenced in the financial review John just took you through, we feel great about the future of Twenty-First Century Fox as it is today. But before I get into addressing the progress we've made, I want to add a few comments to what Rupert had to say about Time Warner. First let me be clear we are done. We pursued this potential combination to achieve one overarching goal, to create value for our shareholders. It became increasingly clear that the combination of the drop in our share price and the highly defensive nature of Time Warner’s actions is going to lead to a transaction where too much of the value created in success went to Time Warner shareholders. Second, this initiative was one of opportunity, not necessity or defensive concerns. We feel great about the future of Twenty-First Century Fox. We have a great combination of industry-leading franchises, emerging growth businesses, and international leadership. We are confident we can successfully prosper in a consolidating distribution world because our powerful content and brands will continue to be the sweet spot in our industry. Our confidence in our future made the thought of issuing our stock anywhere near it's current price simply untenable. Third, we have no plans to pursue any other third-party content company as an alternative to Time Warner. We've created shareholder value at Fox by being an industry leader in building businesses, realigning franchises and establishing leadership positions in brands and contents around the world. One the most important traits that distinguishes us from our peers is that we are a growth company, we build new businesses, we are market leaders in areas of opportunity like the international markets. Our story is one that balances growth with appropriate return of capital to shareholders. We…

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you Chase. Ryan we would be happy now to take question from the investment community.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our first question will come from the line of Ben Swinburne with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Benjamin Swinburne – Morgan Stanley: Thank you. It is a two part question on the same topic. Thank you for addressing the Time Warner situation clearly. I think it would be helpful for your shareholders to hear what it was about Time Warner that made it compelling to you from an acquisition or merger perspective and why now. Just to get a sense of your thought process. Related to that, use of cash, John, you guys laid out last summer leverage goals for the end of FY16 and with Sky deal you almost made it harder for yourself to reach those. Could you give us understanding how you think about those targets now? And a multi-year framework for thinking about either buybacks or capital returns to address that? Thank you.

John P. Nallen

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Sure I guess in the first – and I don't want to get too far into it, again, I want to be clear. We have moved on. So I don't want to be dwelling on sort of a transaction that we moved on from but I'm happy to provide a little clarity. I think at its core, there were a handful of things that were compelling and it really was the unique opportunity which is why you know wanted to be clear this isn’t the case where we move on to another target. We like our business, and we like our future and where we are at. But I think what made Time Warner unique in the benefits that come out of it for a couple of things. I think first, I guess it sort of highlights three. One, clarity in scale this matter. We have got enough scale and we got a unique enough brands and content to navigate the world we are in, but I think there were opportunities to sort of you know to further emphasize that by having putting together the breadth, brand and content and certainly it would have been more with them in place. I think second there is real optionality that came out of the ability to mix match the assets and then what we've done – some of that – we created to Fox Soccer to pick up speed, we turned them into a broad-based general entertainment channel and a broad-based sports channel. I think as we looked that the array of content and network opportunities, whether it’s in sports or kids or general entertainment, news, non-fiction there are array of places to mix and match content networks that we would have had across that portfolio that we thought really gave us…

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

Yes, just on the balance sheet and where we stand?

John Nallen

Chief Financial Officer

And I guess in terms – it’s a little bit I guess it’s going to be a little bit like back we were two years ago. And I guess, I think probably the guidance we gave back then isn't that different in terms of what we think is property returns leverage cash and the balance sheet and the like. I think use of capital or no different and I think where we can invest in organic growth or sort of opportunities that fit within our portfolio was Rupert said I think will be ourselves strategically complete. And I think in that certainly return on capital it’s an important part it. We maybe $6 billion – and we recognize at $6 billion buyback does not and to itself get us to the balance sheet we’ve talked about and so it’s a – on going working progress and we will continue to address it as we go forward, but sort of guidelines we have before really still largely the guidelines and we will certainly work and focus on trying to drive ourselves to that place, but this does obviously great excess liquidity on the balance sheet we note that. Benjamin Swinburne – Morgan Stanley: Thank you very much.

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

Thank, Ben. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Comes in the line of Anthony DiClemente with Nomura. Please go ahead. Anthony J. DiClemente – Nomura Securities Co. Ltd.: Thanks a lot. I think, John in your remarks about the guidance, you talked about despite the absence of the Super Bowl, you expect television segment to post higher profit levels in 2015. Just wondering, what gives you the conviction that the television segment can turn it around? What types of ratings performance does that imply for the broadcast network? What gives you confidence that Dana and Gary Newman can achieve those types of ratings requirements to get there? Thanks.

John Nallen

Chief Financial Officer

I guess, I’ll address I mean first in the entertainment network is not driven by growth in the entertainment profitability if the entertainment network. We have – Gerry and Dana but obviously there – this is – this business as you build over years not months. We are excited about the year and we feel great about the shares we gone place, because that we launch the number of initiatives, but we are not expecting anything dramatic in terms of turnaround, this year profitability perspective, everything I think our profitability entertainment sectors actually in probably down a touch what its driven by, clearly, political spending of soft that some of the Super Bowl upside and probably first and foremost retransmission continues to be up, an increasing important underpinning approach for the broadcast business overall. Anthony J. DiClemente – Nomura Securities Co. Ltd.: Thanks. And then just if I may, one quick follow-up on housekeeping. If you can give us in the quarter at the cable segment, domestic advertising and affiliate ex the impact of consolidation of YES? Sorry if you did -- but that will be great..

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

I did, Anthony, if you look at it that way, the affiliate growth we reported at 19% domestic would be in the low-double digits excess and the ad growth that we reported to 12% would be in the mid-to-high singles. Anthony J. DiClemente – Nomura Securities Co. Ltd.,: Thanks a lot.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you, Anthony. Ryan next question please.

Operator

Operator

Comes from the line of David bank with RBC capital. Please go ahead.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

David, you’re out. David Bank – RBC Capital Markets: Sorry about that. A little mute button.

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

It is that hi-tech stuff.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

David, you may still be on mute.

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

Maybe we come back to him later. Try someone else?

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Operator are you there.

Operator

Operator

Okay, sir we had a technical difficulty. One moment for the next question.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jessica Reif Cohen with Bank of America, Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead. Jessica Reif Cohen – Bank of America, Merrill Lynch: Thanks. I guess following up some of the prepared remarks. Your approach on the Fox side as opposed to News Corp has essentially been build rev then buy. And totally hear what you said about Time Warner being a unique opportunity. But it does beg the question -- is then indicated, what you do with the excess liquidity because you know that you will always from here on the constant speculation that Fox is a buyer of anything that could be for sale. So I was just hoping you could address, if you were interested in buying other assets, would the focus beyond more content? Do you think there is a chance to consolidate midsize players? Or is the focus really just to build internally?

Chase Carey

President

We build ourselves. You look all of our best businesses we have started them ourselves. And we are very happy with that. We are not, you said buying anything around. We are not going to buy anything around at all, if there was something very unique, but small, I don’t know, I would say never, but we have no plans to go out on the acquisition trail.

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

, : I think the fact that we felt there was potentially something here and in some ways like this obviously a big acquisition, but in many ways I think the level of the core this was building. What you are going to have with this content was really a scale and a branded content that let you build the next-generation of similar experiences in business is on these digital platforms and there isn’t anything else like that. So I think I am not saying we wouldn’t find the Bolton on every time, they built on things that get within our portfolio we have some opportunistic things that we looked up they bid inside what we do and that’s how we operated the business and that’s how we expect to continue to operate the business and I think that the fact that this one transaction we got presented to you. we think opportunities doesn’t really shouldn’t anyway shape or form be taken as any sign of that shift in how we are going to drive these businesses, mange these businesses and operate these businesses. I would last three years were or a better sign of what we are planning to do. Jessica Reif Cohen – Bank of America, Merrill Lynch: Thank you. That's very clear. And just completely separately, you highlighted the RSNs as a big driver throughout the call. Can you tell us what length of your sports contracts are now? And the outlook for RSNs for the next year or so?

Chase Carey

President

I'm when you think on average they sort of average about five or six, five actually John was saying seven I was going to say five or six that’s a little longer. I mean there are always a couple coming up, we are actually pretty good renewing, we just extended that cavilers.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

The LeBron.

Chase Carey

President

After the LeBron arrived we've got a couple we’re well engaged in now, obviously we recognize complexities in navigating the space. There are places we will decide as it makes sense for us as we did with the Dodgers in LA. They are pretty long-term. I think we feel pretty good about where we are with those agreement in aggregate.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you Jessica. Ryan can we have the next question please?

Operator

Operator

And we will go back to the line of Data Bank with RBC capital. Please go ahead. David Bank – RBC Capital Markets: All right. Let's try this again. Are you there?

Chase Carey

President

Yes, we are here. David Bank – RBC Capital Markets: Good. Got the hard part done. First question, more specifically for Chase, could you talk about how the dialogue with respect to reverse comp has evolved over the last year or two? Could you give us a sense of where you think things our shaking out and where they have come from? Secondly, for all of you, how do you think about -- it's been a year since you've recapitalized Hulu with your partners. You've gotten a lot more traction on the programming front, I think, since the recap domestically. What is the international strategy for Hulu? How do you think about how you're going to use that asset internationally? Thanks.

Chase Carey

President

I think in terms of – I mean on a reverse comp, I don’t want to get too deep into the sort of really what our discussions that we have with our affiliates, the basic premise is pretty simple, in the world we are in today and we've said it before, we believe you know you need to do a revenue stream and its actually we need to get build revenue stream for every household we deliver our content to and our most valuable content is the network content. When we have an O&O we can get to build revenue streams directly through our owned and operated stations, when its going through an affiliate there is the affiliates between us and them and the payments of that subscription side of the revenue stream. So we negotiate with the affiliates up front what we think is appropriate share a fair share for us to receive for the programming we provide to them that they in turn go on and negotiate with distributors to characterize for it. And in this world the type of unique content certainly led by the sports content we provide those affiliates, have an increasingly disproportionate value which is why we said retransmission and reverse compensation, probably continue to be the most under valued of any of the content that is distributed in the marketplace. So it’s an ongoing process to try to move that closer to what is fair value. Obviously we are nowhere near; they don’t want competitive basis fair value for it. In terms of Hulu, I would say our focus in Hulu are not domestic, I mean its – they realistically – I mean down the road you know maybe but Hulu went though [indiscernible] really good job putting a new team in place with him, I think he has really started to make an impact in the market. He seems to be more active in the last set of months, but I think his priority is and focus is to build scale at Hulu in the domestic marketplace and from there we will see where it goes from there, but that is the priority of it.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you Dave. David Bank – RBC Capital Markets: Thanks very much.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Ryan next question please.

Operator

Operator

And that comes form the line Todd Juenger with Sanford Bernstein. Please go ahead. Todd Juenger – Sanford C. Bernstein & Co.: Hi thanks, I'll refrain from the urge to ask you about liquidity and buyback for the 20th time. Let me instead – start on something you've hit a couple of times, which is notion of long-term digital opportunities in the changing consumption environment. You have mentioned on your own you have a lot of assets to bring to bear. You just made a huge investment in The Simpsons. You have this growing platform of FX Now. You just talked a little about Hulu, which is a little bit separate. Would love to hear your thoughts -- with your own assets, how does that get monetized in the near term? How does that come together in the long term? What is the pace of investment versus pace of growth? Now that you have dismissed the Time Warner aspect of that, how do you look at that from your standpoint going forward? Thanks.

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

Well, I think simplistically its point clearly in working progress and digital platforms are going to be tremendously important part of our future, particularly the mobile ones and I guess everybody talk about almost like competing with us and realistically the content we – the content brands we have probably the context in the brand that are most in demand on these platform. So I think there in a ways we will explode it some of that is through complementary experiences that complement or core establish business in FX now that complement but FX exist in places they can move to be it some up more independent, certainly Hulu which we have – obviously much more independent and autonomous we obviously participate in it licensing product to other. So you know its not only wholly-owned in operated certainly we have deep relationships with Hulu, Netflix, Amazon and the like I think we do those things with care to make sure all of those businesses can exist, but I think we see growth opportunities in each and everyone of those from ones that are extensions, ones that are or more new platforms, platforms that we owned part of and third-party platforms that are all part of the mix. And I think added on top of that which is really part of this whole digital experience his how do we then – how do we really starts up monetizes viewership not just monetizes – not just sort through payment strains but you know the question, the viewership already talked about sort of what’s happening viewership going and many of people are watching is much of products – watch again more and more places and we got to catch up with sort of the ability to figure how do we monetizes and capture the value inherent in that viewership and some of that to measurement, some of that’s true technologies like targeting, some of that’s being smarter of advertising that makes an entertaining khanate of advertising and the like. And all of these things, we're clearly just at the start of. I think it is all going too evolved and we need to realistically compete and develop those opportunities, both in terms of the content packaging, the content experiences, the types of content extension that come off of it, as well as monetizing all of that viewership at every level. It is all important. Todd Juenger – Sanford C. Bernstein & Co.: Got it. I will reserve my follow-up for another time. Save it for somebody else. I know we are late in the day. Thanks.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you, Todd. Ryan, next question please?

Operator

Operator

Comes from the line of Michael Nathanson with MoffettNathanson. Please go ahead. Michael B. Nathanson – MoffettNathanson LLC: Thanks. I will just do one. This is to Chase, James or Rupert. I would argue, and I think you'll agree, that last year you guys had scale and before you guys had scale. What has changed now you think need more scale? Is it consolidation of cable, the rise of SVOD? Given strength of your business what made you search out greater scale?

Chase Carey

President

Let me make it very clear and I thought and I said, we don’t need more scale. I mean I think it doesn’t mean – there are opportunities created by having more scale, but we have industry-leading scale in terms of brands and content. This was an opportunity to add a unique portfolio of the brands and content what we have, but we do not need given very successful navigating it realistically. We continue to be highly confident in the ability to do so. Michael B. Nathanson – MoffettNathanson LLC: Okay, FS1, there was some concern on FS1's first year and you cited all the new sports right you would bring up next year. I would you rate the FS1 launch and at what point should we evaluate it? Do we have to wait a couple more years make a judgment on it?

Chase Carey

President

Yes, I think going in I mean I think we said from the get-go, so it’s not new. You’ve got a measure these new channels. They are hard to build. Things will go right, things will go wrong. It takes two or three years to sort of build the channel. Particularly even something like sportswear and a variety of core properties that will be sort of the foundation have not even launched yet on FXX, we haven’t even launch Simpson yet, we are still ramping up in terms of originals. It’s all of what takes time. I mean, like everybody, I think forgets where Fox News was two years and our FX was five years and sort of…

Rupert Murdoch

Chairman

I’ll just add to that it took seven years for Fox News to turn a profit. And, today its making $100 billion is it. These things take time.

Chase Carey

President

I think we feel – I think we have been thoroughly before and I think we are pretty sanguine about challenges are doing and I think we feel good about where we are, but I think we were realistic going in, where we probably would be. And, as I said building a channel its hard work we don't delude ourselves. But, we've made a lot of headway, we built critical foundation in terms of affiliate agreements and continue to refine the programming. So, we are really where, essentially, where we thought we would be and we feel good about the track we are on. Michael B. Nathanson – MoffettNathanson LLC: Thank you

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you Michael, Ryan, can we have the next question please?

Operator

Operator

Comes from the line of John Janedis with Jefferies. Please go head. John Janedis – Jefferies & Co.: Thank you. Chase, you gave some color on the ad market. How different is the environment between say domestic cable the Fox Network and TV station advertising, from a demand perspective? Are you seeing any relative improvement between the three?

Chase Carey

President

Yes there its always little I mean there were some different I mean and I wouldn’t say no, in sort of the high level I would say not say I mean – I would not do the ad markets certainly robust at any level. In the summer you're always a bit of summer doldrums so it’s a little tough to sort of get it to really too fine tuned on the ad markets when you are sitting in the summer. I think as you get into the fall, you will have a much better sense of it. I think I'll clearly cable and broadcast from a volume perspective had people keeping money in their pockets. I think locally and obviously don’t have that the upfront dynamic in the same way I think the local market is probably right now for the quarter is tracking to be down at touch for the September quarter couple of the local sectors that I think is important, telcoms and autos probably look a bit soft for the quarter, but its it like to be a bit stronger but its okay. I think, overall, you find it certainly a place for everybody and use more cautious and I think that probably truly I mean in the local you got a little bit more sort of day-to-day activity with people the upfront creating little bit longer dynamic in the national market for broadcast and cable.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thanks John. Ryan I think we have time for one more question please.

Operator

Operator

And that comes from the line of Michael Morris with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead Michael C. Morris – Guggenheim Securities LLC: Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Two questions with respect to what you would have acquired had the Time Warner transaction taken place. I think that HBO and some national sports rights, both of which were unique. You addressed this a little bit before about digital rights. HBO clearly is very unique in that it is a premium network and also really probably has the potential to be in the over the top platform as well. Do you see yourself investing or building organically a similar product now? In addition to what you have something that’s a premium product and something that could be a global over the top platform that s unique. And then in secondly the national sport right, obviously, the NBA comes it would been something that the perhaps you would been in is part of this deal does it change your approach perhaps being more aggressive in bidding for the NBA. Thanks.

Chase Carey

President

And I guess in the first in terms of unique content, I think the right way I guess to respond is in two ways. I mean in some ways as they talk about digital “hey look we have a great portfolio of content brands and I think these digital platforms will evolve and will be part of it just from I think how do you continue to package and offer product, I mean in some ways people have said to what degree is Netflix a different version of – you know the version of HBO without the linear channel. You know Hulu as it evolves is it offering an array of premium original content without a linear channel and I think these digital platforms will provide an array of opportunity to package products. I don’t think – it doesn’t mean we are talking about goals that can create – HBO but I think there are opportunities to take unique products I mean in many ways look FX, you know I think probably is second and on in terms of creating unique distinct product and I think a real established brand in the marketplace. And I think we will have opportunities and we will continue to develop and explore them is how do you take advantage of these emerging platforms here and abroad, obviously we have just some unique strengths overseas and some unique businesses overseas to get it built on Asia, Europe and alike. That will give us opportunities to develop and expand and build on new things. I think in terms of sports, I mean sports, we've got the portfolio, I mean right now we've have got the rights in place to build FX – you know build Fox Sports 1 and develop it along the plan we laid out. You know we have the rights we need to be successful, I think we will look at, you know I think as we should we will look at it whatever rights come up and if there is better rights we think that fits and we could reach agreement on that would increase the value of FX1, we’ll engage on it, but we have a sports portfolio that lets us fulfill the plans we had for FS1 so I think anything we add to it would be sort of opportunistic to take it to a further level.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Guggenheim Securities

Great thank you.

H. Reed Nolte

Management

Thank you very much Mike. At this time we are out of time, thank you everybody for joining today's call. If you have any further questions, please feel free to call me or Joe Dorrego. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude today's conference. As I mentioned earlier today's conference was recorded and is available for replay starting at 6 PM Eastern today and going through August 20th of midnight. You may access the AT&T replay system by dialing 1-800-475-6701 and entering the access code 331516. International participants may dial 320-365-3844. Those numbers again are 1-800-475-6701, international 320-365-3844, with the access code 331516. That does conclude your conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.