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Fox Factory Holding Corp. (FOXF)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Sun, May 10, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Fox Factory Holding Corp. First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, David Haugen, Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

David Haugen

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon and welcome to Fox Factory’s First Quarter Fiscal 2020 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Mike Dennison, Chief Executive Officer; and John Blocher, Interim Chief Financial Officer. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release, which went out today at approximately 4:05 PM Eastern Time. If you’ve not had a chance to review the release, it’s available on the Investor Relations portion of our website at www.ridefox.com. Please note that throughout this call, we will refer to Fox Factory as Fox or the company. Before we begin, I’d like to remind everyone that the prepared remarks contain forward-looking statements and management may make additional forward-looking statements in response to your questions. Such statements involve a number of known and unknown uncertainties, many of which are outside the company’s control and can cause future results, performance or achievements to differ significantly from the results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Important factors and risks that could cause or contribute to such differences are detailed in the company’s latest Form 10-Q and in the annual report on Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking or other statements herein, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, within our earnings release and in today’s prepared remarks, non-GAAP gross margin, non-GAAP operating expenses, non-GAAP income tax, non-GAAP adjusted net income, non-GAAP adjusted earnings per diluted share, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin are referenced. It is important to note that these are non-GAAP financial measures that we believe are useful metrics that better reflect the performance of our business on an ongoing basis. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in today’s press release, which has also been posted on our website. And with that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Mike Dennison.

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Thank you, David, and good afternoon. We appreciate everyone taking the time to join us for today’s call. Since we last reported earnings, the COVID-19 pandemic has rapidly caused an unprecedented impact on our global economy, our daily lives and our business. First and foremost, our thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected by the virus. I would like to extend my sincerest appreciation to our employees, whom continue working in our facilities to keep our operations running where possible, and to all of the healthcare workers helping to win this war on COVID-19. Our number 1 priority has been ensuring the health and safety of our employees and their families. We are working together as an organization to be as informed and nimble as possible to also ensure the health of our business now and for the future. I’m going to start by sharing how we’re responding to this unprecedented and dynamic environment. I will then focus on key highlights of our business in the first fiscal quarter of 2020, along with some perspectives on the month of April and the second quarter. John will then go through our first quarter results in more detail and provide perspective on our balance sheet, cash flow and a few financial elements of our business as we move forward. As you would expect, according to CDC guidelines, we have implemented new policies and enhanced our best practices in key manufacturing and operational areas, including stepping up the sanitation, social distancing and health-checks for visitors at all of our facilities. We experienced approximately $1.8 million in COVID-19-related costs in the first quarter to support our operations, which is reflected in our gross profit results. And for Q2, we expect a step-up in these COVID-19-related costs, as the costs are commensurate with…

John Blocher

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. Good afternoon, everyone. I’ll review our first quarter fiscal 2020 financial results and then go over the status of our recent actions relative to the COVID-19 pandemic in more detail. Sales in the first quarter of 2020 were $184.4 million, an increase of 14% versus sales of $161.7 million in the first quarter of 2019. Our sales included approximately $6.5 million from SCA, which closed in mid-March. While it was a record first quarter, it was slightly below our original expectations at least back in early March due to the COVID-19 shelter-at-home orders that began later in the month. Prior to the shelter-at-home orders, our sales in the quarter for the company and SCA were ahead of plan. Gross margin was 30.7% in the first quarter of 2020, a 90 basis point decrease from 31.6% in the prior year period. Non-GAAP gross margin decreased 80 basis points to 30.9%. The decrease in gross margin was primarily due to approximately $1.8 million of factory costs associated with the COVID-19 pandemic that were not added back to our non-GAAP gross margin. As Mike mentioned, we expect that these costs will continue and most likely increase in the second quarter due to the continued impact of COVID-19. These costs are difficult to predict due to the unknown length of these shelter-at-home orders. Total operating expenses were $45 million or 24.4% of sales in the first quarter of 2020 compared to $29.2 million or 18.1% of sales in the first quarter of last year. The increase in operating expenses on a dollar basis was primarily due to acquisition costs related to the SCA transaction, along with the inclusion of their operating costs and amortization expense. Our first quarter expenses also include operating costs related to our Ridetech subsidiary acquired in the second…

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Thanks, John. In closing, the health and safety of our employees remains our number 1 priority, and we believe we are well positioned with our diversified bike and powered vehicle businesses to manage through this situation and emerge stronger. The resilience of our people, the power of the FOX brand and our performance-defining ride dynamics products, combined with the strength of our valued OEM partners, will continue to be competitive advantages in the market as we move forward. I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Larry Solow with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Lawrence Solow

Analyst

Great, thanks and good afternoon guys. Good to hear your voices and hope you and your families are doing well and pretty okay.

Mike Dennison

Analyst

You too, Larry. Good to hear from you.

Lawrence Solow

Analyst

Yeah, great. Just a couple of questions. I know you – I realize you’re not giving guidance. I don’t know, I would recommend that. Just in terms of – and it sounds like the powered vehicle, at least in the short run is probably going to get – get impacted a little bit more due to closures and whatnot and inability to purchase vehicles. But can you give us an idea just what you’re seeing in April in terms of, I mean, more on the powered vehicle side, I mean, are sales going down? I suppose, well into the double-digits, right, I mean, I don’t know if you can sort of just give us an idea of what April looked like on the sales side.

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Yeah, Larry, this is Mike. Let me give you some data points here that should be helpful. End-customer demand, so think about it from the standpoint of my prepared comments on SCA, our outfitting business, SCA and Tuscany. That remained incredibly strong actually in April, and you probably have seen reports just in terms of truck sales across the U.S. remaining strong. So that’s a function of, I think, financing options and good deals being created by the OEMs to move vehicles. The thing is that the impact of this April is their factories being shut down. So when you think of powered vehicles, and you think of Ford and Chrysler and Toyota, those facilities were fundamentally shut down across-the-board for April. So they weren’t receiving or taking any product from us, which means our facilities were shut down in conjunction with that or at least running very small production runs. Similar in Power Sports, different across the water when you think of Taiwan, our bike business. That was running closer to normal and April was good. So it’s a bit of a different story, depending on the part of the business it’s coming from. Other parts of our business have remained strong. Of course, for military that didn’t really lose a beat. Our Ridetech business was phenomenal, and commercial trucking continued on. So it really was a function of the factories that we support directly into in terms of OEMs being shut down that was a major factor. You would see some of that in the aftermarket just because in a lot of the environments where we sell into, our channels in the aftermarket, distributors and retailers, some of those folks were shut down as well. So you saw some lumpiness in the month of April with that, and you’ll probably see some of that continue. And you’ll see some of that in May relative to the OEMs in power sports I mentioned earlier, as they’re not all on line. As you know May 1, it’s kind of throughout the course of May they come back on line.

Lawrence Solow

Analyst

Right, okay. No, but that does sound like, I know really truck sales have been good. And obviously, there’s been a lot of incentives in work. And like I said, it’s super hard to sort of predict what happens in the short run. And, I guess, a better question would be your – in prior recessions or economic slowdown, especially on the specialty sports or – powered bike side. Your customers have been super resilient and view these things as more of necessities than discretionary. How about on the powered vehicles side? Obviously, early on, it sounds like truck sales are doing okay. But just in terms of profiling your average customer, impacts to the economy, might you see maybe a mix shift within powered vehicles. I get the outdoors activity is actually up now, so maybe people are buying more side-by-sides, their vehicles, but maybe some of these big-ticket items, there’s a slowdown eventually as we look out to 2021 and the economy is sort of trailing to get some legs under it, any thoughts on that?

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Yes. I guess, my position on that, Larry, would be a couple of points. One, our end-customer demand has remained strong. It hasn’t been a recessionary kind of response. It’s been a pandemic response, and I think those are slightly different. Now, to your point, if we stay in a pandemic situation long enough, does that have an impact on our end-customer demographic, which is probably a more salaried person who’s probably working at home today versus an hourly employee who may not be able to go to work or get a paycheck So I think it is – again, a bit of a crystal ball, I think it’s really hard to predict out into 2021 what end-customer demographics are going to look like. We believe, right now, end-customer demand stays strong. We believe that our products, albeit premium products, are those products that people who want to go outside and enjoy their time with their families in a social distancing sort of way can use our products and be very happy in the outdoors. So we think that still resonates really well, given the current circumstances.

Lawrence Solow

Analyst

Indeed. Okay. And then, just lastly, how about just a sort of a benefit, if you will, calling – I hate to call COVID spinning off benefits, but in terms of a little bit of a slowdown on the powered vehicles side, maybe that helps you sort of catch up a little bit in terms of you build out your capacity and opening in Georgia. And then also, I know you got some bigger opportunities waiting in the wings, particularly on the tractor trailer or the commercial truck side, so maybe that’ll afford you the ability to get in there in early 2021. Any thoughts on those 2?

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Yes. We’re really happy about the pace in which we’re getting Georgia built out and into production. So that’s a great opportunity for us. We won’t call anything associated with the pandemic a win, to your point, as you said, Larry. But I do think it gives us an opportunity, maybe a pause in other high-volume production activities to migrate business, to migrate production to the Georgia facility. So I think there are some things that we can take advantage of over the next several months as we think about Georgia and getting ready for 2021, which we still believe is going to be a fantastic opportunity for us.

Lawrence Solow

Analyst

Right, thanks. I appreciate it, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike Swartz with SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, guys. Good evening.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, Mike.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, you guys around a couple of weeks ago preannounced 1 quarter results, and you laid out a number of cost-cutting and cash preservation measures that you’ve taken. You’ve highlighted some of those again tonight. Is there any way to think about maybe what the annualized benefit from some of those actions is?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Mike, good question. That’s a pretty tough one to really specify though. When we think about furloughs, it depends on how long those furloughs are in place, and that’s directly correlated to when those production facilities start back up. Layoffs, we haven’t publicly stated the value of reduction associated with the layoffs. It was definitely helpful to our cost measures, of course. And then, we’ve also, as you know, done pay-cuts for our management team, executive team, myself, et cetera. So those all will help. They really offset incremental costs associated with limited production run, extra safety measures and things like that. So to me, you do want to make sure you can do the other, is the way I think about it. And we haven’t put a number on it, I don’t think, for the year. And, John, if you have anything else to add…

John Blocher

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

No. I think you – I think you got it. Yeah.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. So, I mean, the best way to think about it is some of these cost reductions you’re just merely offsetting some of the temporary headwinds you’re facing. And I guess you took CapEx down $6 million to $10 million as well, so those from there.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, CapEx – CapEx is right. That was about $6 million to $10 million, and that was just associated with moving things out to 2021, things that weren’t necessary for the 2020 year based on where we’re currently at. So, obviously, we’re looking at every nickel we spend. And if we don’t need to spend it right now, we’re not going to spend it. So that’s just kind of the mentality that we’ve started as we went into this situation, and we’ll continue with that same mentality through the balance of it.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

And with regard to some of the costs related to COVID, I think you outlined $1.8 million that you faced in the first quarter. Is there a way to think about that on a run rate basis? I mean, just as we attempt to estimate what that could be for the second quarter, I mean, is there a rule of thumb or anything you can provide us?

John Blocher

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

It’s really difficult, Mike. It’s John, because there’s kind of direct cost with that initial plant closures, there is incremental cost. And then there is kind of the unabsorbed overhead cost as well relative to not being able to produce those last couple of weeks of March. So it’s really difficult to kind of estimate a number right now. And things can change. I mean, if you think about some of the things we’re also doing here as we begin to ramp up in production again back in our PVG facilities, there’s going to be some incremental spend relative to investing in those factories for this new kind of new environment we’re operating in. So of course, today, it’s really difficult to predict. I think we’re – it’s pretty safe to say that we do see it going up from where we were in Q1, though.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

One note, Mike, that I would mention, too, is that when we got into some of these factory shutdowns in mid-March in California specifically, we weren’t sure how long those were going to continue. If you remember those were initial announcements from the governor and from the different counties in California, they talked about shutting down for a period of time. And we believed then in the middle of March that it was probably a 2- or 3-week minimum shutdown. And so what we did instead of sort of furloughing employees immediately was we actually kept even all of our hourly production employees on the payroll and just said, go home and be safe. We’re going to go in and cover your costs until at least April 7. It wasn’t until that time that we recognized that, that was going to be all of April and potentially longer and made some moves on furloughs and layoffs that, obviously, we just – we had to do, didn’t want to do but had to do. So those costs did change course. In March, those costs were higher, because we literally had our entire workforce, production workforce of employees on payroll, even though we weren’t producing. So you would see that shift from the Q1 to Q2 time frame. That doesn’t apply in Q2 like it did in Q1, if that’s helpful.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah. That’s very helpful. Thanks for that, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Craig Kennison with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions as well. I’m trying to understand, I guess, what’s going on in the bike market from a retail perspective? Sounds like you’re optimistic. We’ve read anecdotes of the outdoor lifestyle being attractive during the shutdown phase of the pandemic, but there are also reports of some dealers that may be struggling in this context. So I guess, I’m not sure what to believe in terms of retail trends, but I’m sure you have better data than we do.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

That’s a great question, Craig. And what there is a lot of different data points out there. So you have to kind of mix them all together to try to come up with a perspective. Going into Q2, our backlog was – our order book, if you will, was really strong. A lot of that was associated with some great products for our model 2021 bikes that we’ve already talked about in prior conversations. So we were set up really well in Q1 and going into Q2. We believe some parts of the business have definitely performed better than others. Shimano has reported and had some challenges with their year-on-year revenue, as you probably know. We didn’t see those same issues. We believe that’s probably associated with just the mix of products that we’re on and the things that we do in this space. As – where we sit right now is that, that end customer demand in both Europe and the U.S., within North America, which is the predominant majority of where we sell our bikes, has remained strong. And our dealers remain operational in most cases in most states, and they’re selling a lot of product. So that seems quite positive. I think, I’d be hesitant to say that, that’s just going to be perpetually the same scenario. We don’t know what Q3 and Q4 looks like yet. We will have to see how that market demand profile holds up as we get further into Q2 and then into – seeing what Q3 and Q4 looks like. From where we sit right now, though, we feel like we’re – as we have done in the past, we’re kind of beating the market, so to speak, in terms of how we perform.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks for that, Mike. Do you have visibility into the independent bike dealer channel as to whether all of those dealers are open or whether some may be closed, because of stay-at-home orders? Curious just if that channel is still functioning well and if you’re confident that dealers can make it through this tough time.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

We have, and it is a bit situational. We know a lot of the bike dealers. We work with a lot of the bike dealers in different parts of the country. So we – while I couldn’t speak to every one of them, we have lots of examples of very positive situations where they’re selling out of bikes. They can’t keep – they’re hiring people to service bikes because people are looking for something to do and they’re bringing their bikes in for service, however old those bikes may be. So from what we can tell, and this is, again, kind of a European/North American comment, bikes have been able to remain open and bike shops, it will remain open and functional for the majority of the time and have done quite well. I think, I’d have to caveat that by saying in certain situations where, of course, the shutdown process has been much more fierce, let’s say, Italy or Spain, certain parts of Italy or Spain or in New York City, clearly, in those markets, bike sale is going to be pretty severely impacted. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to probably understand that. And in some of those markets, as in like New York, it’s probably not one of our larger premium mountain bike markets to begin with. So again, I think in the markets of where we produce or sell a lot of our products, we’re doing okay. And for the most part, those bike shops have remained open.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

And then how would you frame aftermarket trends in both the bike market and the, I guess, power sports market Are you able to service demand for aftermarket components Do you need more direct-to-consumer options in the event some of that channel is not functioning well? Just curious how the aftermarket in general is performing for your business units. Thanks.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah. And I’ll give that to you in 2 pieces. On the SSG side, our aftermarket is through those bike dealers I just referenced. So those remained strong, and people were getting their bikes serviced and upgraded and things done to their bikes. And then they continued to ride them. So that’s been fine. On the powered vehicle side, a lot of our product sell-through large distributors and retailers who have a strong online presence. And what we’ve seen notionally from those channels and from our partners is their retail business has been down, but their online business has been up. And we’ve benefited from that factor. And I think that’s consistent with what you’ve seen in other industries or other markets. So we believe that online function is an important piece. I would also suggest, though, that a lot of our high performance products require installers and people to actually put those products on vehicles. So in markets where those installers have been shut down for a part of the time – a period of time or are still shut down, that does cause an implication on the aftermarket side, because it requires an installer to do that work.

Craig Kennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

That’s helpful. Thanks so much, Mike.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Craig.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Stember with CL King. Please proceed with your question.

Scott Stember

Analyst · CL King. Please proceed with your question.

Good evening. And thanks for taking my questions.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · CL King. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, Scott.

Scott Stember

Analyst · CL King. Please proceed with your question.

[Technical Difficulty]

Mike Dennison

Analyst · CL King. Please proceed with your question.

Scott, we lost you. I don’t know. I’m not sure what – where we lost Scott.

Operator

Operator

Scott, your line is live. You can speak.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Can you hear me?

Mike Dennison

Analyst

I can hear you now.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Okay. Sorry about that. Yeah. Talking about the bike side of the business. It seems like, obviously, that’s holding up a lot better than powered vehicles. You talked about powered vehicles that they’re being down year-over-year in the second quarter. Would you expect that the other side of the business would be up in the second quarter as well?

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Yeah. If the trend continues, we think SSG will do better in the second quarter, just from a standpoint of the model year change that I talked about earlier and from the order book going into the quarter. Again, I want to be careful, though, in stating that things are pretty fluid, right. So to the extent that we can see that order book and understand what’s happening, we feel good about bike. But again, I want to be cautious and try to not – I’m not going to give guidance, as you know, but let’s see how things play out over the course of the back half of Q2 and Q3 and Q4.

Scott Stember

Analyst

Okay. That’s fair enough. And on the cost structure, could you just remind us the variability of your cost structure? And how easy it is for you guys to flex it up and down when the markets change?

John Blocher

Analyst

Yes. This is John. So in the manufacturing side of our cost structure, the manufacturing costs tend to be more variable than fixed. You’ve got things like material. We’ve got some direct labor and those sorts of things. So they tend to be more variable than fixed. Now obviously, whenever you have to pivot and make a change in direction or something like that, it takes a little time to kind of move in that direction. Down in the operating expense side, those expenses tend to be a little bit more fixed than variable. They’re people related primarily. Obviously, we talked about some of the expense management things that we’re doing relative to pay cuts and other types of things that are just kind of discretionary spending, think like traveling expense. Various other expenses we have, we manage that up pretty tightly. But now in the operating expense, those expenses tend to be a lot more fixed and variable, because it primarily impacted people.

Mike Dennison

Analyst

One thing to note, too, I’ll just add. In California, which is probably almost the most impacted, of course, with our powered vehicles business, we did – we always had a temporary workforce, and we use temp labor as well as full time labor. And so temp labor is a more variable resource for us in times like this. So we were able to flex that up and down based on what we need. So that is helpful, to always have a percentage of your production workforce as temporary labor.

Scott Stember

Analyst

All right. Got it. And then on the balance sheet, again, just remind us of what your covenants are. And lastly, I know – I’m not trying to get guidance out of you guys. But do you expect to remain cash flow positive over the next quarter or so? Thank you.

John Blocher

Analyst

Yeah. So our covenant ratio is at 3.75. And I mentioned on our script that our net leverage ratio came in at the quarter at around 2.3, grows at about 2.8. I think it’s important, on the gross side, if I remember – to keep in mind that we pulled in some additional cash at the end of the quarter for near-term liquidity. If we were to kind of end the quarter at our normal cash flow balances that leverage ratio would have been more like 2.6 than 2.8. This quarter – I think this quarter is going to be a challenging quarter for us. A lot of this will depend on how quickly we can kind of ramp up and do production with things like Taiwan that, as Mike has said, is continuing to produce and really not impacted there. I think from a long-term cash perspective, we feel our – we’re confident in our ability to kind of maintain positive cash flow. And I think right now, we’ve got – I think, it’ll be a little bit dependent on the cash flow in Q2. We’ll have to see how this kind of goes. But I think on a longer-term basis, we feel pretty confident about our cash position and our ability to manage within our covenants.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Rafe Jadrosich with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Rafe Jadrosich

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good afternoon. It’s Rafe. Thanks for taking my question.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, Rafe.

Rafe Jadrosich

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

So you mentioned the order book is strong. Can you just give a little bit more color like how long your lead times are and how much visibility you have from the order book?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, it depends on the quarter. Clearly, going into Q2, our order book was strong, because it was a reflection of a lot of the model year 2021 products getting produced and ready for retail sales in the balance of the year. So we had a real nice visibility into that towards the end of March going into April. So that was great. You usually get about a quarter ahead. So we saw Q2 at the end of Q1. You would see Q3 kind of at the end of Q2, which is why in some of the Q&A earlier, I referenced – I don’t want to get too ahead of my skis, saying the whole year is going to be fantastic with bikes, because we really don’t see Q3 until the end of Q2. Does that make sense? And that’s why I think it’s a bit fluid for the back half of the year still.

Rafe Jadrosich

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. That’s really helpful. And then the retail demand has been strong, like even through the manufacturing shutdown period. So as everything reopens, like whenever that happens, do you think there could be pent-up demand on the other side? Or do you think sales that are from the shutdown period are lost?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Rafe, I think there’s a little bit of both, depending on the parts of the business you’re talking about. So I think there is going to be pent-up demand, especially in our powered vehicles business for coming out of this. And I’ll tell you, one of my concerns actually, so I’ll give you another part of your question that you didn’t ask, is to make sure that we get enough vehicles from our OEs like GM, Ford, et cetera. So in the longer they stay shut down, the more backlog we get in terms of vehicles we need to sell with dealers or sell through dealers. So I think there could be almost a demand issue, because of the pent-up demand that we can’t fulfill if – or a supply issue because of the demand associated with some of those products. And in other parts of the business, I think, it’s too early to tell. But I do believe that it’s not as perishable as you might think in terms of demand. I think it’ll hang in there, as long as you get back to people out and about and able to go spend their money.

Rafe Jadrosich

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

And then I think in the past, you’ve highlighted like key racing events and some trade shows as important showcases for your product, especially on the aftermarket side. I think a lot of those events this year will probably be delayed or canceled. Like how do you think that will impact your 2020 business? Like will you move product launches around to adjust for that? Or is there any other way you can reallocate the market?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

It’s a great question. We’ve reacted very quickly to that. Obviously, there’s a couple of parts to it. One, we’ve saved some money by not doing a lot of it. We were really big, as you know, in events and trucks, getting trucks to events on both the bike side and the powered vehicle side, having staff at the events, a lot of events across North America and Europe and elsewhere. So that’s obviously been a cost saving. At the same time, we’ve really amped up our marketing around go-to-market and how to reach those consumers with new product launches and make sure that we’re supporting our partners, whether it be new bike launches or new powered vehicle launches. So we’ve just tilted a different direction to go away from kind of using events as our launch pad for new products, doing that more in a digital way and in partnership with our channels and OEMs. So I think we’re doing well in that area. And we really started to do it differently than we used to, and I think that’s a temporary thing. We’ll get back to doing events and things like that hopefully in the very end of 2020 and 2021. But for now, we’re getting those same launches with different ways and it’s working great.

Rafe Jadrosich

Analyst · Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thank you. That’s very helpful.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jim Duffy with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Jim Duffy

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks. Good afternoon, guys. Mike, I wanted to start with a couple of questions on the powered vehicles side. You mentioned the possibility of increased mix of your vehicles once production turns on. Can you speak to some of the indicators behind that comment?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Increased mix to some of our vehicles when production turns on.

Jim Duffy

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah. I think you said that when manufacturing production ramps up, you think there may even be an increased mix of – with your OEMs of vehicle platforms featuring your products.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. My perspective is a bit wrong, maybe. Well, I don’t – yeah, I think I might have been referring to something else, but I can’t speak to the question still, which is how do we do when these companies ramp back up. I think, what you’ve seen in the market, and I’ll talk about powered vehicles first, the OEMs are clearly tilting their business towards SUVs and pickup and light pickup trucks. That’s been a big winner for them, and it’s going to be the thing that brings them back to health a lot faster. So we’re going to see, and we’re already seeing a lot of those order books for those vehicles, support for those vehicles, re-ramping those vehicles, strong input from those companies to us to make sure that we’re ready. So we feel pretty good about that. We believe they’re going to really use those as their way to get back to health and that benefits us. I think we also see it as strong just from a standpoint that as markets turn back on and people can go out and do things, they will spend their money on vehicles like side-by-sides, powered vehicles, other things they can do in the outdoors versus going on general vacations or doing things that they might have otherwise done. So we think that benefits us as well in the different categories that we serve. Same really holds true on the bike side, a little bit different, but the same holds true on the bike side that people, again, may not take that vacation, but they’ll go spend a bit extra money on a new mountain bike, whether it’s an e-bike or a traditional mountain bike. And in those cases, we will benefit from that trend as well.

Jim Duffy

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. And then as it relates to the impact of the pandemic on the strategies of the OEMs, do you expect any impacts to the timing of new vehicle introductions?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

It’s a good, it’s a really good question. Potentially, potentially, but I think the challenge in like powered vehicles, if you think about a pickup truck, that they had planned to produce X amount of units for their 2020 year, in a lot of cases, those supply chains were constructed a long time ago. Contracts were drafted a long time ago. They still need to produce those same vehicles. They just got pushed from April to May, let’s say, as an example. So as those get pushed, does that mean their future next year model start a bit later than they would traditionally do? I think the answer is probably yes, Jim. So I think what we’ll see is those 2020 models get completed as they ramp back up, but then the 2021 vehicles, I guess, the way I think about that, will start a little bit later.

Jim Duffy

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And then John, a question for you on the balance sheet, can you help us with more detail on the SCA callout with respect to receivables and payables? What’s notably different about the business model there? And can you speak to the mention of vehicle chassis deposits, please?

John Blocher

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Sure. Yes, there’s going to be more detail in the Q that we filed. From a working capital standpoint, their AR, they tend to be fairly light on the inventory side. I think their AR and AP would be fairly similar to our historical kind of numbers. I think with the vehicle chassis, the way those work, it’s similar to how we have things at Tuscany. It’s a little bit dependent on the OEM itself. But for the chassis, how that works is both come in on our line, like we’ve talked about before is that they’ll come on to our credit-line whenever they ship to us. And then they can go ahead and when we ship them out, they come off of those. There’s a prepaid amount in the balance sheet for the chassis from SCA that kind of went up a bit. Now keep in mind, we’ve always had the similar type of things of our, some of our Tuscany chassis as well. It’s just that SCA is such a larger and a bigger entity, so that’s kind of where that increase in prepaid goes. I would say also, too, it’s one of those things where we don’t charge for the chassis. It’s just kind of as a pass-through type of thing for us. So if that helps you at all.

Jim Duffy

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Maroccia with Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Alex Maroccia

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you give us an idea of the growth or decline in the Specialty Sports Group without that OEM shift for the quarter?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

So, yeah. And I think we had this in the prepared remarks, so let me just comment on it again. In last year, that business grew 13% in the same quarter. So the comp was pretty tough in this quarter. So you could factor that in. And then we talked in the prepared remarks today about we think the March impact, just based on pandemic and then shifts and things, was 5% to 7%. So you can kind of model what that would look like. Again, in bike it’s a bit interesting, because it really depends on one model a year production shift and changes. So it can easily be a few million bucks that shifts from one quarter to the next. It doesn’t really does like change the year at all. It just changed from one quarter to the next.

Alex Maroccia

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Got it. That’s helpful. And second one is on end-market trends in a recession and then coming out of it. I know that it’s a bit different, whether it’s a side-by-side, a dirt bike, et cetera. Can you just give us a sense of the mix of your non-auto powered vehicles, so we can judge what the recovery looks like?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Non-auto powered vehicle recession recovery. Well, I guess the way – I would try to frame that for you, so if we parked all of our automotive business and you just talked about things like power sports, which is side-by-sides, snow-mobiles, all those kind of products, I think it’s a function of those companies, our partners in those spaces and even they are, what kinds of financing options they have, what kind of go-to-market strategies they have. A lot of that’s based on their ability to bring consumers in to get loans, to finance vehicles or to buy vehicles. I think it’s in a very different scenario today than in normal – than like a 2008 or 2009 recession. I think we were fairly recession-resistant back in those days. In fact, I don’t have the numbers in front of me, so I can’t or I’d quote them for you. But I think our power sports business in 2008 and 2009 did quite well. And so, I would expect that even though this is different than that recession that we’ll see a nice resurgence in those markets as people are allowed to go get out of their house and go do something.

Alex Maroccia

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, very helpful. Thank you and stay safe down there.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · Berenberg. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, thanks, Alex. You too.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan Sundby with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Sundby

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, hi, thanks for taking my question. Mike, I guess just a follow-up on one of Jim’s questions there. I guess with your OEM partners being kind of forced to step back and shut down manufacturing for a period of time, do you think this could ultimately create a bigger or a longer-term opportunity for you to kind of sit down with these partners and build new business plans from the scratch or an innovation plan from scratch to where maybe this opens up some doors to win new spec position that maybe you just hadn’t had before in the past?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, Ryan, let me answer that question carefully. So one of the things that’s been interesting about this shutdown from their production facilities with our large OEM partners is there had not been a shutdown of their engineering team from those partners. And we’ve had a lot of work happening between our teams and those teams on new product development throughout this time period. So in a way of answering your question, with maybe not answering your question, I’d say, yes, I believe there’s a great opportunity for us to find new opportunities with our OEM partners to grow our business. Of course, that’s not a tomorrow-type event, because the roadmap for this is pretty long. But it’s been a great opportunity for us to go work on those during this downturn.

Ryan Sundby

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. That’s helpful. And then just a follow-up on the powered vehicle kind of demand question, can you maybe just like help us understand what did demand look like through, or yourselves through mid-March, and then what happened in the last 2 weeks of the quarter, just to kind of have a perspective on that?

Mike Dennison

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, going into the beginning of March, I can almost remember the days specifically, we were seeing fantastic results. We were pretty elated with what we saw for the quarter and for the year in terms of demand signals, in terms of production. Everything was great. And then it just wasn’t. And literally, it was almost you wake up one day, and all of your customers call you and say, sorry, we shut down our factories. Please don’t ship any more products. It was literally that much of apply the brakes, stop everything towards the end of middle – end of March. So it was drastic. It was dramatic and it was incredibly hard for the team. I think they did a great job working through it, but it was an incredibly hard situation for us to try to bring production facilities to a stop. That’s basically overnight.

Ryan Sundby

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Got it. Thanks. Thanks for the color there.

Mike Dennison

Analyst · William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

You bet.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing comments.

Mike Dennison

Analyst

Thanks, operator. We appreciate your participation and questions on today’s call, and we thank you for your interest in FOX. Stay safe out there. Have a nice evening and we’ll talk soon. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a great evening.