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Flexible Solutions International, Inc. (FSI)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, May 16, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone and welcome to today's Flexible Solutions International First Quarter 2023 Financials Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note this call maybe recorded. I’ll be standing by if you should need any assistance. It's now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mr. Dan O'Brien. Please go ahead.

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Thanks James. Good morning everybody. I'm Dan O'Brien, CEO of Flexible Solutions. Safe harbor provision. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a safe harbor for forward-looking statements. Certain of the statements contained herein, which are not historical facts are forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involve risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements may be impacted either positively or negatively by various factors. Information concerning potential factors that could affect the company is detailed from time-to-time in the company's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Welcome to the FSI conference call for first quarter 2023. I'd like to speak first regarding our company condition and our product lines along with what we think might occur in Q2 and Q3 2023. Afterwards, I will comment on our financials. NanoChem division. NCS represents approximately 70% of FSI's revenue. This division makes thermal polyaspartic acid called TPA for short, a biodegradable polymer with many valuable uses. NCS also manufactures SUN 27 and N Savr 30, which are used to reduce nitrogen fertilizer loss from soil. In 2022, NCS started food grade toll production operations using the spray dryer that we installed over the last several years. TPA is used in agriculture to significantly increase crop yield. It works by slowing crystal growth between fertilizer ions and other ions in the soil, resulting in the fertilizer remaining available longer for the plant to use. TPA is also a biodegradable way of treating oilfield water to prevent pipes from plugging with mineral scale. TPA's effect is prevention of scale for minerals that are part of the water fraction of oil as it exits the rock formation. Preventing scale keeps the oil recovery pipes from clogging. TPA is also sold as a biodegradable ingredient cleaning products for certain food…

Operator

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question today from William Gregozeski with Greenridge Global.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Hey, Dan, a couple of questions for you. In regards to the Florida LLC on the last conference call we talked about -- you mentioned you were unsure, if there was anything pulled from the first quarter. And the first quarter of this year was higher than the year ago. So is it safe to assume then that maybe nothing was pulled or we can still expect good year-over-year growth from the Florida LLC?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Good morning, Bill. And yes I think I can confirm that Q1 did not pull from Q4 and didn't pull backwards from Q1. So when you see those -- those numbers are accurate for the quarter, and they probably unless something changes indicate a good year for the LLC.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. You mentioned that a couple of times, the ag sales being down in the first quarter, but should still be up in the first half. Is that the -- there was a large customer, you had about $3 million of sales first quarter last year, it was $1.5 million this year. Is that what that was related to or what you're talking about?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

That's a part of it. I mean, it's not going to be any specific customer. But what we're noticing in the ag industry, in North America, it's not as true internationally where they have to account for shipping times. But in North America, we're seeing a insitiveness [ph] at the farmer level, that translates to a tentativeness at the distributor level, which translates to attempting to make just-in-time purchases from the manufacturer level which is us. It's -- we've talked to several of our contributors, and even a couple of competitors and everybody is getting the same feeling. It's not that people aren't going to buy, it's just they're waiting until the last minute.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. All right. And then on the Food business, you mentioned kind of some self-developed products, some customer-demanded products. For the self-developed products, how -- what's the plan to market those, if they're not being driven by a customer?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

There are our ideas, but we aren't taking them to commercialization unless one of our distribution connections has shown an immediate and strong interest. So, we're not going to market ourselves. I think everybody who's followed us for a while, has noticed that we're not great retail marketing for our salespeople, and that we're -- we -- our skill set really involves solving problems and allowing distribution to get it into the marketplace. So, I think what you're going to see is, that if an idea of ours as volume opportunities and an interested distributor it's going to go forward. Otherwise, it's going to go on the shelf and we'll find another one that does have volume and an interested distributor.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. Okay. Can you are you able to say how many products you have in the pipeline, that are demanded by customers, just to get an idea of how often you're going to be rolling out a product?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Yes. I think we've got five at an advanced level, right now. And they're in the Food category, which means that they're not going to be immediate sales. They will take several quarters as we go through, proof and then an approval process by distribution and follow -- that will be followed by a medium-sized, first order and then upward motion from there. So this is -- these are things that are still going to start to come true in the second half of the year and accelerate through the future. One of the things, that I'm going to try and get across every time people ask questions today is that, we're really positioning ourselves this year for our next growth cycle of several years. We're doing it -- nobody has asked the question, yet, I'm sure it's coming about our wages and administer of salaries and so forth. We've got additional capacity in our plants, and additional capacity amongst our human resources that we haven't had in the past. It's costing us more money today, but it's going to allow us to earn more money in the future.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. And then, last question I had was the -- you guys put more money into Trio. Is that -- should we look at that more as just the parking stock for cash, or is there nothing -- no equipment or anything, you can spend that money on right now for that future growth?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Yes. No, I think you should look at it as long-term parking, not short-term parking, because it is paying 8% guaranteed and as much as 11.5% every year, because there's a bonus interest payment every three years. It's also highly tax-advantaged income. And I think -- I'm a little bit odd, but I do a little bit of pocket-to-pocket accounting. The income from our Trio investment is virtually equal to the cost of our executive, who operates our Cayman subsidiary. And so, I think you should think of it as long-term parking that guarantees we're going to have will have covered our executive costs in the islands. So, interesting question. And then definitely, I'll let you know the Board has looked at this and $1 million or just under $1 million that's enough to have into a single investment. We won't be buying any more Trio. If we need another parking spot, we'll be looking at different buildings.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thanks Dan.

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Thanks, Bill.

Operator

Operator

Next, we'll hear from Tim Clarkson with Van Clemens.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Hey, Dan and another nice quarter. Obviously, there's fluctuations with sales and earnings. In terms of the big picture, do you see a change in perception of -- in agriculture with more emphasis on products like yours that are green that are helping the environment? I mean is it -- is there a shift towards people acknowledging that these products not only help grow more crops but also, are healthier for the land and so on?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

I would have to say that that's a -- an individual farmer-by-farmer lifestyle choice. It will probably have a lot to do with the age of the farmer and how much of the 1980s, he had to endure or she. But I would say that younger farmers that are taking over from their parents are definitely far more interested in stewarding their land, and having it there for their children and grandchildren. It's amazing what a decade or a decade and a half of decent corn and soybean prices will do for people's thoughts about the future. Other guys are just worried about next year.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Right, right. The other question I noticed that you've done some insider selling on your stock. I assume that's just a little bit of a concentration risk and you're looking to diversify your own resources a little bit?

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

It's even less onerous than that. It's -- I'm expecting a personal tax hit towards the end of this year from my grateful government, and I'm positioning to have the cash to pay the bill.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Okay. All right. Well, that's -- we don't want you going to jail. So that's a good thing. I guess -- understood. I guess…

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

If it’s jail, I can work all the time.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Yes. Maybe depends which jail, I guess. I'm done. Thanks. Good quarter.

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And it appears we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the program back over to Mr. O'Brien for any additional closing remarks.

Dan O'Brien

Analyst

Thanks James. Well, thanks everybody. Appreciate you coming to listen today, and look forward to talking with you again in about three months, and we're going to work hard. Hopefully, we have some good news for you. Take care. Bye now.

Operator

Operator

This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.