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Federal Signal Corporation (FSS)

Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Fri, May 2, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation, First Quarter Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Brian Cooper, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. You may begin sir.

Brian Cooper

Management

Thank you, Lauren. Good Morning and welcome to Federal Signal's first quarter 2014 conference call. I'm Brian Cooper, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Also with me on this call are Dennis Martin, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jennifer Sherman, Chief Operating Officer. We'll refer to some presentation slides today, as well as to the news release, which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our Web site, federalsignal.com, clicking on the Investor Call icon and selecting the webcast. We have also posted the slide presentation to our Web site. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor language found in today's news release and in Federal Signal's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our Web site. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. In our news release and filings, we reconcile these non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10-Q today. I'm going to start by addressing our financial results. Dennis will then provide his perspective on our performance and direction and Jennifer will wrap up our prepared comments with a discussion of some of our progress on our corporate initiatives and our outlook for the remainder of 2014. As you have seen in our earnings news release, our first quarter highlights reflect solid, consolidated results and strong order growth. Our first quarter is typically our weakest quarter in terms of financial results as a result of seasonal factors including how budgets are spent. This year weather played a little larger role as we lost some days of production to close plants. And it…

Dennis Martin

Management

Thank you, Brian. Before I comment about the quarter, I would like to address two recent announcements. First, last week Federal Signals Board of Directors declared a dividend of $0.03 per share and as we have discussed, our Board of Directors has continually considered reinstating the dividend. We last declared a dividend in the fourth quarter of 2010. That dividend reflects the Boards confidence in strong recovery in our business that we have achieved over the last few years. We view our dividend as one important way to return value to shareholders. That is our focus and we want to be clear that our dividend does not limit our growth opportunities. We are fortunate to have attractive opportunities for growth within the company and we are pursuing them. We will also continue to look at acquisition opportunities that we build on our core competencies and then we can leverage the profitable growth. Our management and our Board believe that we could build a discipline of paying regular dividends while still investing in our growth. We have a constant focus on creating value for our shareholders and we are pleased to be able to return some of the value in the form of this dividend. The same announcement also describes the Board authorization to repurchase up to $15 million of Federal Signal stock. This is intended primarily to facilitate reduction in company's stock held by our U.S. pension plan and to reduce dilution resulting from the issuance of stock under our employee equity incentive programs. I also want to comment on our announcement of Jennifer Sherman is our Chief Operating Officer. Jennifer has partnered closely with me through the last three and a half years to restructure Federal Signal and to return us to profitability. She has been pivotal in all…

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you, Dennis. Regarding my new title, I would like to start by thanking Dennis, our Board and the Federal Signal organization for their constant support and expanding challenges I have enjoyed with the company. I'm committed to continuing our focus on improvement and creating value and I'm excited about the opportunities and prospects for Federal Signal. Today, I would like to describe some of our specific activities and successes that are helping us improve, create value and move forward on our initiatives and goals. I would talk about developments and connections with specific initiatives but many of them stay in multiple goals. Regarding our initiatives to support organic growth and diversification there are number of notable items. We have a renewed focus on new product development and innovation. Our teams are assembled and are prioritizing projects. We are excited to have them actively working on new growth opportunities. At the recent National Fire Trade Show, we also introduced a new product that rose from our historical product development efforts that is our Navigator Lightbar for fire markets and it was well received. We have been piloting a project to do more complete up fitting of police cars similar to what we do in Europe which allows us to deliver turnkey vehicles. This approach has proved a success with the Los Angeles Police Department and has attracted additional interest from other customers. During 2014, we have also restructured our organization of SCG on the system side to foster greater collaboration and position us for growth. Similar moves at ECG over the last few years have produced some excellent results and we are encouraged by how these SCG changes are progressing so far. More generally, ECG sales growth in Q1 was largely in industrial markets with more promising margins. Elgin succeeded…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Matt McConnell with Citi Research.

Matt McConnell - Citi Research

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning and congratulations to Jennifer.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you, Matt.

Dennis Martin

Management

Good morning, Matt.

Matt McConnell - Citi Research

Analyst

If I could say on ESG, you've had a couple nice order quarters here, I think, three in a row. So how much of that is from the throughput improvements that you've made versus maybe an improvement in municipal markets or anything else that's really contributing to the recent quarter trend?

Dennis Martin

Management

I think we've improved our margin capability by a little more efficient production. But the markets, Matt, certainly have increased in both the baseline and the industrial market. The industrial market is way ahead of the – than the municipal, but we are seeing good strong demand for municipal, sewer cleaners and so forth. So it's really a combination…

Matt McConnell - Citi Research

Analyst

Great. And do you have a sense of maybe the age of the installed base for sweepers? I wonder if there's pent up demand that could be unlocked? Is that something that you have any way to quantify?

Dennis Martin

Management

If we guess at it more than we quantify it, Matt. When you think about the number of sweepers that go into the market every year there is about 1500 maybe a little more than they have 10 to 15 year life. Some of them now have been switched out, so I'm sure there are some that are ready to be replaced. But, there is also been a change to the demographic of sweeping in some cities where they are not operating as many. So it’s really difficult to pin down what pent up demand is. We certainly have seen more small fleets released by cities in the last six months than we have, say, a year ago, or three years ago.

Matt McConnell - Citi Research

Analyst

Great. That's helpful. And then you were clear that the dividend and buyback aren't going to impact your ability to make growth investments, including bolt-on deals. So I wonder if you could just discuss briefly, how do you go about the process of reinstituting an M&A pipeline and it seems like some of the best acquirers are very systematic about continually developing a pipeline sourcing targets. And how do you start that from kind of a standing stop?

Brian Cooper

Management

Hey, Matt. This is Brian. I will take a stab at your question. What we have been doing is talking with our businesses. I think that's where you start. We want to stay close to home, close to the core businesses and our core competencies with anything we would buy. So we talked to the people running our businesses for their ideas, what they see. We also have made sure that we have our message out there with investment bankers and others who might be in the markets with opportunities. And I would just say, it can take a long time to build a pipeline. But, I think we are encouraged by the number of opportunities that we have seen so far. I don't know if Dennis or Jennifer want add on to that?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Yes. I think I would that internally we developed an M&A protocol and a robust diligence process. So when the right opportunity comes along, we feel that we were prepared to examine the opportunity of using both internal and external resources.

Dennis Martin

Management

And Matt, we have also looked at a number of things over the last three years that we have kept in the warming over, if you will. So we are not starting from zero. But, again, we are trying to be very close to the core. They need to line up with profitable growth. And they need to be in areas where we are confident to do the manufacturing or market.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

And we are pleased to take with the opportunities that exist.

Matt McConnell - Citi Research

Analyst

Good to hear. Thank you.

Dennis Martin

Management

Thanks Matt.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from Robert Kosowsky with Sidoti.

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Good morning. Congratulations, Jennifer and hello Brian and Dennis. How are you doing?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Dennis Martin

Management

Good morning. How are you Rob?

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Pretty good. Quick question on the environmental, the ESG backlog or I guess it's the order growth. Was the order growth rate for your industrial markets, the areas you want to grow, and was that higher than what the average was for the group?

Dennis Martin

Management

Yes. It continues to be as very strong driver. At the same time, we have seen very good growth on the municipal side. So its not one side.

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Okay. And I guess within those industrial growth areas, is there any particular end market or product that's really shooting the lights out versus some other ones?

Dennis Martin

Management

Well, I think with our pressure on the environmental markets, the hydro-excavators, and the guzzlers and the vacuum products are being driven by broad market. But, certainly the energy markets are creating a high level of demand. It was that but we just went to South Dakota to rent a building to provide service for our customers and there are very few buildings available. So there are hotspots. And so we think the hotspots in those core markets like oil exploration and energy are probably driving a big piece. But, we are seeing it in a very broad way.

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Okay. So you think this was just – we've seen energy CapEx increasing it seems like. Do you think that was something that was a major driver in the quarter?

Dennis Martin

Management

I think it helped a lot, sure.

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Okay. And then also, could you maybe talk about the complexion of the backlog in SSG and just specifically talk about the large order that was added into backlog in the quarter. Was that just more warning systems for, I guess, industrial kind of petrochemical applications? Is that what we should read into?

Dennis Martin

Management

As we look at that market, its made up of a multiple pieces but also multiple orders. And we have the very large order we received on the Middle East. And that we have to work on for the last six months. And at the same time, there is others into refining areas that have had been a little slower to come together. And the police on SGG, the police side, its been driving some very nice orders with our work on the Los Angeles Police Department and other major cities with some of our new light products. So its not one side, and it really is kind of being driven by multiple pieces. But the big projects do tend to go month-to-month and some of them have like in our performance. We just haven't seen the same orders or so.

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Okay. And then looking out over the next few quarters, how do you see the implementation of these large orders that can be lumpy? Is it going to be fairly uniform? Is any quarter going to be particularly lumpy, or is there risk that some of this could get shifted out to next year too?

Dennis Martin

Management

Well, part of the mystery is a large orders is, you don't know. What you do know is, when you are in the quoting cycle in the funnel. We have a very large funnel of projects that that we are hoping will fall and help us achieve the operating income level and the targets that we put out last year. So we have a good funnel. And we are focusing our teams on them. And as I say, because of the uncertainties of how things close, where they fall in which quarter is really hard to predict.

Robert Kosowsky - Sidoti

Analyst · Sidoti.

Okay. Thank you very much and good luck.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from Brad Evans with Heartland Funds.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Good morning, everybody.

Dennis Martin

Management

Good morning, Brad.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

And congratulations to Jennifer on the promotion and Dennis, I tip my hat to you and the Federal Signal team here. I mean you've come a long way. I mean the balance sheet is a thing of beauty and the laser focus you have on the operations right now in terms of operational execution as well as being great at what you're – at your existing businesses, I think it has manifested itself in the restoration of a lot of shoulder value. And it looks like there's exciting days for Federal Signal shareholders here going forward. So we want to thank you for being a very, very strong steward of shareholder capital.

Dennis Martin

Management

Well, thanks Brad. And I just want to thank you and the other shareholders for being patient and supporting our last three and a half years. As you know, its been very strategic and it has been very disciplined and we tend to continue to do that.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

I just had a couple of – just a quick housekeeping question just to kind of understand you're talking about the buyback and the dividend not having a major limiting factor on your ability to grow both internally investing as well as through, perhaps, tuck-in acquisitions. If you take the low end of your guidance, I guess, I guess you're roughly $50 million of net income and on a pre-tax basis that gets you roughly $75 million to $80 million of pretax. And it looks like interest is, if it currently kind of, if you run out – annualize the first quarter, that's roughly $4 million. So you're about $80 million plus or minus an EBIT and the depreciation and amortization kind of gets you into the range of I think about $95 million to $100 million of EBITDA for the year. Your CapEx budget currently stands at what?

Brian Cooper

Management

We have been running around $15 million, we are going to run a little higher this year. So $15 million to $20 million.

Dennis Martin

Management

Brad, we have been adding some strategic segment initiatives as we have the availability and if they all improve productivity. So it will be a little bit higher.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Okay. And does working capital swing in a large direction either positive or negative for the full year from a cash flow perspective?

Brian Cooper

Management

From this point forward we will probably see some improvement to year end. Fourth quarter is usually our biggest year of up swing in cash flow out of working capital.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Okay. I'm sorry, Brian, I just clicked off the press release. So was that a small use of working capital in the first quarter?

Brian Cooper

Management

It was a use of it in the first quarter, yes.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Okay. So maybe call the full year neutral to be conservative?

Brian Cooper

Management

And Q1 is usually the quarter we build working capital the most. There is a little bit during the rest of the year too because we have pretty significant business running through the year. And then fourth quarter it reduces again.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Got it. So CapEx of $20 million, interest of roughly $5 million and the dividend now of roughly $8 million. So call it roughly $30 million to $35 million kind of, of those outflows. So clearly, you have the ability to generate, if the stars align here, if you're able to meet your expectations generating kind of $60 million to $65 million of free cash flow. Is that about right?

Brian Cooper

Management

That is, yes.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Okay. Keep up the good work, you guys.

Brian Cooper

Management

And of course, we have the capacity on top of that. So I mean we have our debt down to fairly a low level. And we have tolerance I think for higher level of debt not to say we want to go back to where we used to be.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

So do you think – would you go – roughly at 2 to 2.5 turn leverage is something you'd be comfortable with at this point?

Brian Cooper

Management

Yes. And I think it always depends on what takes you there. If its because operations aren't going as well that's not as comfortable as we bought a highly profitable business or something. But, yes, that's about the range we talk about also.

Brad Evans - Heartland Funds

Analyst · Heartland Funds.

Okay. Well, thank you for taking the questions. Good luck.

Dennis Martin

Management

Thank you, Brad.

Brian Cooper

Management

Thanks Brad.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from Ryan Cassil with Global Hunter Securities.

Ryan Cassil - Global Hunter Securities

Analyst · Global Hunter Securities.

Hi, guys.

Dennis Martin

Management

Good morning, Ryan.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning.

Ryan Cassil - Global Hunter Securities

Analyst · Global Hunter Securities.

Hi, just to hit on SSG again, could you talk about the quoting activity and the order trends as we've gone into Q2? Have they remained strong and do you think we're at an inflection point with customers on the timing of these larger projects?

Dennis Martin

Management

The funnel on proposals at SSG remains very robust and consistent as it as over the last three of our quarters. So it's really a timing of projects closing. I'm not sure I can say we are on an inflection point. But, I think we have a good backlog of orders that will support our annual plan.

Ryan Cassil - Global Hunter Securities

Analyst · Global Hunter Securities.

Okay. Okay. Sounds good. And then lastly, is there a way to quantify the impact of severe weather in the quarter?

Dennis Martin

Management

We play with that. And I don't think we want to make too bigger deal about it. We do know that we've lost four or five days in one o four factory because of cold and snow and another we lost three or four days. But, at the end of the day every year you do have some weather. And so, I think what may have been delayed out of the month that the weather occurred would likely have been recovered in the next month or so. I think we have passed that but I really can't give you a number.

Ryan Cassil - Global Hunter Securities

Analyst · Global Hunter Securities.

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Dennis Martin

Management

Thanks.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions)

Dennis Martin

Management

Well, we have no further questions I think. In closing, I would like to reiterate that we are excited about the changes we are making. The progress we have already made and our outlook for the year. We remain focused on creating shareholder value and appreciate the continuous support of our shareholders. We also could not be at this point without the hard work of our employees, the dedication of our distributors and dealers and a good relationships we have with our customers. And we thank them all. Thanks again for joining us. I look forward to talking you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation.