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Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 28, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Federal Signal Corporation Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. For opening remarks I’ll turn the conference over to Ian Hudson, Chief Financial Officer. Ian, please go ahead.

Ian Hudson

Management

Good morning and welcome to Federal Signal's fourth quarter 2017 conference call. I'm Ian Hudson, the company's Chief Financial Officer. Also with me on the call today is Jennifer Sherman, our President and Chief Executive Officer. We will refer to some presentations slides today as well as to the earnings release, which we issued this morning. The slides can be followed online by going to our website, federalsignal.com, clicking on the Investor Call icon and signing into the webcast. We have also posted the slide presentation and the earnings release under the Investors tab on our website. Before we begin I'd like to remind you that some of our comments made today may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to the safe harbor language found in today's news release and in Federal Signal's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available on our website. Our presentation also contains some measures that are not in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. In our earnings release and filings, we reconcile these non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures. In addition, we will file our Form 10-K later today. I'm going to begin today by providing some detail on our fourth quarter and full year results, before turning the call over to Jennifer to provide her commentary on our performance in 2017 and update on some of our strategic initiatives and thoughts on our outlook for 2018. After our prepared comments, Jennifer and I will address your questions. Our financial results for the fourth quarter and full-year of 2017 are provided in today’s earnings release. The results include a $20 million net tax benefit, representing the company's preliminary estimate of the impact of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which was enacted in December. The ultimate impact may differ from this…

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you, Ian and good morning. In a nutshell 2017 was a very good year. Among the many highlights that Ian just referenced I was particularly pleased with the 35% year-over-year increase in adjusted EBITDA and an improved margin of 12.6%, which was within our target range. We continue to deliver margin performance above many of our peers within the specialty vehicle space. This strong operational performance contributed to a 23% increase in our adjusted EPS. In addition the $47 million improvement in operating cash flow helped us to pay down approximately $34 million of debt since we completed the TBI transaction in June bringing our pro-forma debt leverage ratio at the end of the year to 2.2 times down from 2.7 times at the closing of the acquisition. This puts us in a solid position with significant flexibility to fund both organic growth initiatives and M&A going forward. Since our last earnings call we have welcomed a new member of our leadership team and I’d like to start by reiterating how thrilled we are to have Mark Webber back on board as the Chief Operating Officer. Mark rejoined Federal Signal in January after spending four years at Supreme Industries, where as CEO he led a successful operational and strategic turnaround of the business culminating in sales Law Batch National in September of 2017. Under his leadership, Supreme’s revenues grew at a compound annual growth rate of approximately 6% and operating margins improved by over 300 basis points. He has spent his entire carrier in the specialty vehicle space at Cummins, Federal Signal and Supreme. Mark is a seasoned and trusted leader who consistently delivers results. He is uniquely qualified to drive strategic priorities and accountability within Federal Signal and possesses a laser focus on operational excellence. I am confident…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Jennifer. [Operator Instruction] We will take our first question today from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Ken Newman

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. Good morning, it's Ken Newman on for Steve this morning.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Hi, Ken.

Ken Newman

Analyst

So my first question, I was curious could you -- you talk a little bit about material and wage inflation, I am curious could you kind of help remind this what’s kind of steel pass through you have within your various businesses? And then maybe if you could also quantify what’s baked into the guidance from a price cost perspective?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Sure absolutely, we actively lock-in our steel prices by a number of months for our ESG businesses. We are seeing some inflation on steel and aluminum, which is not surprising given how long these prices have been depressed. We are also monitoring right now the impact from Bill 232, we think this could take time to materialize. We feel confident in our ability to mitigate the impact of our future increases in costs of steel through price increases, but that could take some time. I also talked about our 80-20 improvement program, we will hopeful that that will offset some of these material price increases that we are seeing in wage inflation, but it’s something that we going to monitor closely.

Ken Newman

Analyst

That’s helpful. And you talked about maybe seeing a more normalize book-to-build in subsequent quarters, I am curious could you talk about order quoting activity that you have seen so far into the first quarter, have you already seen that kind of normalization or is that something where the momentum is kind of carried forward so far?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, Ken I think with respect to January orders I think from what we have seen so far they’re encouraging, Jennifer talked the recent trade show we were at that there seems to be some good momentum in the industry that -- so I think in subsequent quarters it may reverse, but we are pretty encouraged with the January orders so far.

Ken Newman

Analyst

Okay. One more for me and then I will get back into the queue. With the impressive growth that you see in ESG it might be helpful to remind us how big the hydro-excavation installed base in the U.S. today? And what kind of growth rate you expect it to grow in 2018? And then obviously your market shares are lower in Canada relative to the U.S. in that product, but given that is it such a large market it will be great to get a sense for the installed base in Canada as well as what you expect it grow out in 2018.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We don’t break it out because our hydro-excavation market has a number of different end customers. We sell some of the hydro-excavation equipment as you know into the municipal market, we sell some of it to industrial customers and then as I talked about we also have our utility initiative. So it’s a pretty fragmented market depending on who the end user is. We saw in 2018 very healthy demand in the municipal side, we talked about our customers are optimistic on the industrial side and part of that is driven by some recovery in oil and gas and we saw replenishment of both our own rental fleet and some of our customers rental fleets. And then on the utility side of the market for hydro-excavators we’re off to a very strong start, I talked about in the call that our orders for the hydro-excavators going in the utility market were up over 80%. And though we’re in early days we’re really encouraged by the progress we are making to-date.

Ken Newman

Analyst

Appreciate, I’ll jump back in line.

Ian Hudson

Management

Thanks, Ken.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from Walter Liptak with Seaport Global.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Hi, thanks. Good morning, guys. So great quarter, great way to end the year, just a follow on to that last question about the hydro-excavator going into the upstream energy sector. We're hearing a lot about the E&Ps changing their CapEx programs and looking at spending a lot more money in 2018. Are you seeing that flow through in anyway like have you gotten any upstream related hydro-excavator orders yet or is there something that still going to come?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, I think what we've seen so far Walt, is we've seeing and we've talked about this, really strong utilization in the rental fleet not just our rental fleet, but also sales to some of our rental partners who have their own fleet. We've seen a lot of the replenishment of those fleets and there has been a fair amount of replenishment of the hydro-excavators vehicles. So that's what we've seen. In terms of direct sales to end customers serving oil and gas market, it’s still relatively light I would say. It's the signs of encouragement are there and our customers are expressing some more optimism. But we haven't necessarily seen that direct increase in customers from customers serving directly -- serving the end markets of oil and gas.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

The other thing I would add, what we've talked in previous calls about kind of used equipment overhang. And we monitor the third party option data. And we’ve seen that overhang kind of revert to more normalized levels. So that’s also an encouraging piece of data.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Okay. Would you have any in the 2018 guidance, do you have an expectation for upstream energy hydro-excavator recovery or is that something that would be incremental to your outlook?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We have some that's included. We definitely have year-over-year improvement that's included in the guidance for 2018. And we also use in terms of a mix standpoint our hydros some of our higher margin products. So that to the extent that we some more it could lead to margin improvement.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Okay, great. And just thinking about the fourth quarter orders, the organic growth look strong and look seasonally stronger than normal. I wonder if it’s just your comments that it surprised you at how the orders came in, in the fourth quarter. Looks like it was kind of across the board?

Ian Hudson

Management

I think one of the things Walt that we talked about is that we saw some advanced orders, Jennifer referenced about $15 million to $20 million of orders in Q4. We think was -- we have certain product lines where these lead times have become a little extended. So we saw some advanced orders in Q4 that was a little bit of a surprise. But otherwise, we continuing to see some pretty good traction on some of our strategic initiatives we've had implemented in the last couple of years.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Okay. And if I can just dig a little bit further into it. Have you raised prices on any of the machines? And do you think any of the fourth quarter ordering was related to any pre-buys like ahead of price increase?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Yes, each of our product lines have different timing in terms of raising prices. But historically several of our ESG products do raise prices in the fourth quarter and that does contribute to some of the order demand that we see in the fourth quarter.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Okay, great. And then, maybe a last one, I wondered if you could help us think about the 2018 EPS walk. Because I think you've got M&A accretion from still JJE and from TBEI in 2018. And any other positive or negative impact for instance legal sounds like that might be a headwind, price cost, volume leverage. Obviously tax rate is going to help you by that $0.10. But starting at $0.85 adding in the $0.10 for tax rate offsetting the new product spend. And I wonder if you can help us with the other buckets that are going to get to the 2018 guidance?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, so I think as it relates to the accretion well, we've referenced on the call that in 2017 TBEI contributed about $0.03. We've also said that by the second anniversary of the acquisition, there would be expected accretion with between $0.07 and $0.12. We're still on track for that. It's likely going to be kind of a steady run-rate to get to the second anniversary of the deal to hit those numbers. And then similarly with JJE, JJE was a pretty meaningful contributor in 2017. We are 18 to 21 months in now with the acquisition, we said the accretion for JJE would be $0.10 to $0.15 by 2018. And so we are well on track for those. So I think in terms of the accretion those are the two kind of data points I think I would factor in, with the residual being the growth in our legacy businesses.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Okay, great. And just a last one for me on TBEI, if I am recalling this right, when you made that acquisition, I think there was a little bit of concern about what the growth rate might be as you get into 2018, 2019. How was TBEI been trending for you and is it expected to grow in 2018.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

It’s absolutely expected to grow in 2018. We have talked about that the seasonality of that business, typically the fourth quarter for TBEI is softest quarter, and typically Q2 and Q3 are their stronger quarters. We are on track to meet the accretion estimate that we saw and depending on both the municipal and industrial side of that business, we expect the municipal side of that business to grow GDP plus in the industrial side of the business we think there is more opportunity. We did mentioned on the call, that as we identify the due diligence there were some investments that we were going to have to make in people and process, the integration team has made nice progress on that in 2017 and some of that will continue in 2018. The other thing I’d point out is there are some good indicators in terms of housing starts and Class 8 Chassis and right now we are seeing encouraging trends in those end markets.

Walter Liptak

Analyst · Seaport Global.

Okay, sounds great. I’ll get back in queue. Thank you.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thanks, Walt. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Chris Moore with CJS Securities.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions, guys.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning, Chris.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Good morning. Maybe we could just start on the specific of the initiative. So -- the increased investment on -- so now it’s going to be new products and expanding sales channels. Are there any new markets that -- you obviously had great success in the utility market any new markets that you are targeting at this point in time or the products just kind of additional to what’s already out there.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We really think it’s a combination, we are taking off a process where Mark and myself, the leadership team is working with each one of our individual businesses to identify and accelerate some of the ideas they have around new product development in channel, which is equally important. So I think you will see a combination of both from existing markets that we’re in and some adjacencies. And overall we talked about $0.03 about $2.5 million of expense related to this. And you should really think of this as long-term investments to support the organic growth of the business.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it, that’s helpful. And from the kind of that sales channel perspective, that would be more ESG focused than SSG?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

I think there is a bias right now, particularly around our utility initiative and the success that we have had, so we will be looking at opportunities across all of our businesses.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got it. Previously you had talked about potentially expanding the Joe Johnson rental fleet a bit, it sounds like Q1 historically is kind of soft on the rental side. Any thoughts for later on 2018 in terms of putting some more capital on that front?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, Chris, I think last time we talked about adding up to $20 million of incremental units in the fleet, those -- that would be focused on specifically on those piece of equipment have attractive returns, strong utilization levels. So that’s really hasn’t changed I think in terms of the timing of when we would make that additional investment you are absolutely right, in the first quarter the further north you go the seasonality plays a part. So the investment would likely be to have those units ready to add to the fleet by April time I would say, second quarter when the weather tends to pick up a little bit. So that’s in terms of the timing and it’s something we would monitor, the ultimate extent of that investment is going to be very dependent on sales out of the fleet. We’re not just going to add the units just for the sake of adding the units it’s got to be replenishing fleet as well as some incremental investment. So being able to control kind of the production flow from manufacturing the equipment and then adding it to the fleet it helps that we’re able to shut off the switch if things -- if the demand isn’t there on the rental side.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got you terrific. Last question…

Jennifer Sherman

Management

And Ian made the very -- I will add Ian made a very important point there, and I make sure everybody picks up is that a lot of that delivery would take place in 2Q and beyond really due to kind of a northern climates that our equipment operates in.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Got you. And just my last question, on the M&A pipeline obviously it’s been full as of a quarter ago something like that, but in terms from what are you seeing on the other side from a pricing perspective in terms of with some of these potential sales we’re looking for has that changed much over the last 6 to 12 months?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We have seen upward pressure on multiples, but as we said repeatedly we’ll continue to be disciplined buyers and I think we’ve got a good track record now within M&A transactions that we’ve done over the last two years particularly the Joe Johnson transaction, TBEI. And acquisitions will continue to play a meaningful part of our growth going forward.

Chris Moore

Analyst

Great, appreciate it. I’ll jump back in line guys, thank you.

Ian Hudson

Management

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to Greg Burns with Sidoti.

Greg Burns

Analyst

Good morning.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Good morning, Greg.

Greg Burns

Analyst

Good morning. In terms of the some of the new products outside of the paradigm that you mentioned on the call could you maybe give us some more color as to maybe some more specifics as to what those are and the timing of when we might see some of those hitting the market? Thank you.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Sure I mentioned on the call last week I was at our largest tradeshows for ESG the WWETT show in Indianapolis. We introduced a number of new products, on the hydro-excavation side we introduced the product that significantly takes a lot of lead out of the product that to comply with certain regulations that are in Canada and other jurisdictions it was very well received. In addition to that in the Vactor side we’ve introduced a whole new control panel whole new boom approach to vacuum excavation. And so on the SSG side we’re introducing over the last couple of years we’ve had a significant new product development effort on our public address systems what we call our TAGA [ph] product, which provide kind of redundant warning in areas where there is a high need and we’re introducing that product in the first quarter of this year. On the debt stream side of our business, our teams have introduced a number of tooling products and they were on display last week at the WETT Show we’ve had success during 2017 and we expect future success in 2018. So overall we put -- we started an initiative three years ago in terms of revamping how we approached new product development and we’ve got a number of products -- projects right now that are in the pipeline across all of our businesses both ESG and SSG. So we feel comfortable with both the opportunities that we’ve been introducing and the pipeline of opportunities going forward.

Greg Burns

Analyst

Do you have a target for how much revenue you maybe like to generate from new products over maybe the next 12 to 18 months or is there some kind of like internal like measure on the success of kind of these new product initiatives?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, Greg, we have internal targets that we assign to our people, but we don’t really disclose the public targets, but as Jennifer said it certainly is going to be important part of our growth and that’s why we’re very committed to using some of the cash savings from tax reform to fund the fast tracking of some additional new product development. And you know those growth initiatives that we have internal targets for it varied by business-to-business.

Greg Burns

Analyst

Okay. And how much was the hearing loss litigation expense in 2017 and how much might that increase in 2018?

Ian Hudson

Management

So it was about $1.5 million higher in 2017 versus 2016 as we’ve spoken about the biggest driver of that incremental expense is the number of trails that we have. We saw that in Q4 we had the trials in Pittsburg and Philadelphia there are currently more trials scheduled in 2018 than we had in 2017. So that might pick up a little bit -- the expense might pick up a little bit in 2018.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

And also I mentioned we are successful in settling about 700 cases for $700 for plaintiff, [ph] which we consider nuisance value, so there was also a charge in fourth quarter related to that.

Greg Burns

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from Marco Rodriguez with Stonegate Capital Markets.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Good morning, thank you for taking my questions. I was wondering if you could circle back a little bit here on the 80-20 improvement plans you are kind of targeting for some savings for fiscal 2018. Of the four areas that you are sort of attacking if you will are there any one or two that are I guess for lack of better work kind of slightly easier lower hanging fruit to obtain, some cost reductions and the same any of the four that are a little bit more difficult to obtain?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

The first thing I want to say, this is not new, we have been employee 80-20 principles for the last five years since Dennis Martin joined the company, we were reviewing here is kind of quantifying kind of the -- and capturing the results of the efforts that are ongoing in our businesses. It really depends on the business in terms of which ones and Mark Webber as I mentioned our COO this is a high priority return for him, he has worked with our businesses to developed plans. So each business had different opportunities out in gas, what inning are we in 80-20 journey we have been doing this for a while, but it’s really part of our culture and we continue to see opportunities going forward. And the other thing I would point out is, this is -- we are putting in process to benefit us for the long-term. And if you talk to our plant manager, this is really part of the culture that we have been successful in terms of implementing and continue to do so.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Thanks, that’s helpful. And so when I am thinking or when we’re thinking about these offsets here to potential material wage inflation in fiscal 2018, if you assumes that your whole volume kind of steady do you think that this improvements would completely offset this the inflation aspects here or do you think you get some sort of margin improvement?

Ian Hudson

Management

Marco, I think that’s the goal, there is obviously unknowns at this point but that’s certainly the target of this program is to reduce the impact of that wage and labor inflation. As it relates to the kind of what we plan for 2018 I think we have seen -- we published our EBITDA margin targets, we were offering within those on a consolidated basis for this year. We would expect some improvement on those margins I think and this would be a key contributor to improving those margins year-over-year.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

We’ve talked earlier we had a question about steel, so a lot of it’s really going to depend on in terms of what had happened with respect to steel prices it’s something that we are monitoring closely. As I mentioned, we have been able to lock-in for a period of time steel, but it’s really uncertain what’s going to happen there and like many companies we’re going to continue to monitor that closely and take necessary actions.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Got it. And I am not sure if I missed this on the call, but you talked about some advance orders kind of coming in with some extended lead times, what were the specific drivers that kind of led that to your understanding?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Some of our dealers because of the extended lead times have placed advanced orders and we believe in the fourth quarter accounted for approximately $15 million to $20 million of the orders.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Yes, got that, I am sorry, I apologize, I probably didn’t ask my question very well, but what sort of drop would drove those additional orders from the dealers were they pent up demand, was there something else going on at the end markets, any color there?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Yes, I mean, really what they are trying to do is reserve slots, because of pent up demand.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Got you. Okay. And then just circling back in regard to the savings that you guys are going to take from the tax reform and as well obviously the 80-20 stuff, you mentioned that you take some of these savings and invest in SaaS tracking, new product development and the sales force efforts. Just wanted to get a little bit more color here, are we talking about investing in additional heads or is this more of an increasing the budgets for these particular areas?

Ian Hudson

Management

No, I think Marco, it’s a combination of both, as Jennifer mentioned it’s not necessarily just new product development initiatives, it’s also augmenting our sales channels. So we may be adding resources to expand our sales channels. We maybe increasing our R&D spend, exploring certain additional new product development initiatives. So it’s a combination of both really.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Okay. And last quick question on the CapEx guidance for fiscal 2018 of $15 million to $20 million. Can you kind of just talk a little bit about the buckets of where that’s going to spend and also the kind of the cadence of spend through the year?

Ian Hudson

Management

So, if you look at our CapEx in 2017, it was about $8 million, so that’s kind of an unusually lower amount for Federal Signal. We have also got a full year of TBEI. And so some of that incremental CapEx in 2018 will be spend at TBEI and we were looking to fund the investment of additional machinery equipment this should help with some efficiencies in long run. And then there is also with the tax reform some of the incremental CapEx spend is somewhat intentional and that we would get some additional bonus depreciation on that spend.

Marco Rodriguez

Analyst · Stonegate Capital Markets.

Got it, thanks a lot guys, appreciate your time.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to a follow-up from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Hey, thanks for the follow-up here. Just a quick modeling question, incremental margins were a bit choppy in 2017 particularly in SSG, curious if you kind of help us think about margin progression or the walk in 2018 as we try to configure our models?

Ian Hudson

Management

So I think in terms of the modeling, I think we certainly expect each of our groups to be in the EBITDA margin ranges and certainly on a consolidated basis we’d expect to be within the range with some improvement on 2017 actuals.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Got it. And that’s inclusive of any kind of increase in material costs and steady....

Ian Hudson

Management

Correct.

Steve Barger

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go next to a follow-up from Walter Liptak with Seaport Global.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Hi, guys. So I want to try and ask the price costs question in a different way and kind of looking at the EPS walk that we went through. The guidance was conservative adding in the M&A acquisition, the lower tax rate, it doesn’t look like there is a lot of volume leverage in the guidance. And I wonder if you are doing that on purpose because of concern about the potential rising steel costs. And so you wanted to make sure you had some dry powder in the earnings guidance or are we kind of over blowing the price costs situation for 2018?

Ian Hudson

Management

Yes, I think it’s more of the later one, I am not sure exactly which numbers you are using for the accretion. But I think it’s based on our -- we are -- we feel that our outlook reflect some pretty good growth.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay. Maybe to ask it another way, are you thinking price costs is going to be a headwind or a neutral in 2018 to your EPS?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Well, pretty neutral. I think, Walt if you do the walk from $0.85, and you look at $0.10 in terms of tax reform, you look at the accretion numbers that we gave for TBEI and JJE in terms of incremental accretion that would put you 6-ish cents. Depending on the timing of the year incremental accretion from the acquisitions and then the rest would be growth. So there is a lot of growth that's baked into our guidance.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay, great. And then if I could just ask one follow-up on SSG, the order activity looked significantly better this quarter. And it seems to me over the last couple of years SSG has been it hasn't been contributing much. And I wondered if you called out municipal markets getting better and some of the large longer term outdoor warning systems. Are we are finally seeing a turn in some of the spending and what can be done within this segment to kind of continue to get better revenue growth and operating leverage out of it?

Jennifer Sherman

Management

First I'll say, it's a key area of focus for all of us including Mark. So we were encouraged by the 28% year-over-year improvement order receipts on the fourth quarter. However this is the lumpy business and one thing we remind you of is that some of that fourth quarter order growth was driven by some of our initiatives, but some of it was driven by we see kind of the municipal spending cycles. So that business can vary season-to-season. And also some of the larger orders that we'll see on the industrial side of the business, particularly the systems side of that can drive that lumpiness. But we've got a renewed focus in terms of new product development in terms of our ETI or 80-20 improvement program. We're encouraged by what we're seeing in terms of the material cost reductions and some of the pricing strategies that we're putting in place. So it is an area of focus as we go forward. But that being said, it will be lumpy quarter-to-quarter depending on these larger orders and the municipal buying cycle.

Walter Liptak

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And with no questions in queue, I'll now turn the call back over to Jennifer Sherman for closing remarks.

Jennifer Sherman

Management

In closing, I'd like to reiterate that we are confident in the long-term prospects for our business in our markets. We’d like to express our thanks to our stockholders, employees, distributors, dealers and customers for their continued support. Thank you for joining us today. And we'll talk to you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect.