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FTC Solar, Inc. (FTCI)

Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, May 1, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the FTC Solar First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Bill Michalek, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Bill Michalek

Analyst

Thank you. And welcome everyone to FTC Solar’s first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Before today’s call, you may have reviewed our earnings release, slide presentation and supplemental financial information which were posted earlier today. If you’ve not reviewed these documents, they’re available on the Investor Relations section of our website at ftcsolar.com. I’m joined today by Yann Brandt, the company’s President and Chief Executive Officer; Cathy Behnen, the company’s Chief Financial Officer; and Patrick Cook, the company’s Head of Capital Markets and BD. Before we begin, I remind everyone that today’s discussion includes forward-looking statements based on our assumptions and beliefs in the current environment and speaks only as of the current date. As such, these forward-looking statements include risks and uncertainties and actual results and events that differ materially from our current expectations. Please refer to our press release and other SEC filings for more information on the specific risk factors. We assume no obligation to update such information except as required by law. As you’d expect, we’ll discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures today. Please note that the earnings release issued this morning includes a full reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure to the nearest applicable GAAP measure. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Yann.

Yann Brandt

Analyst

Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone. It has only been a month since our last call, so we’ll keep it brief today. During the past two earnings calls, I’ve shared my observations on the company and the progress that’s been made toward a primary focus of shoring up near-term backlog while adding incremental liquidity to the business. Slide 3 of our presentation today provides a summary of some of that progress. As you can see, we have added multiples of our current annual revenue run rate to our backlog, signed agreements totaling more than 6.5 gigawatts with Tier 1 accounts, along with other awards added or announced more than $30 million in additional liquidity for our balance sheet, strengthened our sales team, further strengthened our product offering capabilities, and increased our commercial traction with bids on many gigawatts of future projects. Our priority is to demonstrate continued progress and convert those wins and backlog into sustainable growth and profitability. And after our revenue trough in Q3 of last year, we have since seen sequential growth of 30% and 58% in Q4 and Q1, respectively. While these are nice percentage improvements, we still have a long way to go to get our revenue to where it needs to be. To that end, I thought it’d be good to provide a little bit of additional color on the positioning improvements we’ve made and how that activity will lead to even stronger revenue growth in the future. To best understand the future possibilities of FTC, it’s helpful to look at the past. All technology markets rotate as companies use innovation to leapfrog peers based on features and product portfolios. As many of you know, FTC’s reputation has centered primarily on ease-of-use or constructability and service. The company broke into the market and won…

Cathy Behnen

Analyst

Thanks, Yann, and good morning, everyone. I’ll provide some additional color on our first quarter performance and our outlook. Beginning with the discussion of the first quarter, revenue came in at $20.8 million, which was just above the high end of our guidance range of $18 million to $20 million. This revenue level represents an increase of 58% compared to the prior quarter and an increase of 65% compared to the year-earlier quarter due to higher product volumes. GAAP gross loss was $3.4 million or 16.6% of revenue, compared to gross loss of $3.8 million or 29.1% of revenue in the prior quarter. Non-GAAP gross loss was $3 million or 14.4% of revenue, above the midpoint of our guidance. The results for this quarter compared to non-GAAP gross loss of $3.4 million or 25.6% of revenue in the prior quarter. GAAP operating expenses were $7.1 million. On a non-GAAP basis, excluding stock-based compensation and certain other costs, operating expenses were $6.6 million, down from $8.7 million in the same quarter last year and $7.4 million in the prior quarter. This represents the sixth consecutive quarter of OpEx reductions and our lowest level since 2020, which was before we were a public company, as we continue to control costs. GAAP net loss was $3.8 million or $0.58 per diluted share, compared to a loss of $12.2 million or $0.96 per diluted share, in the prior quarter, and compared to a net loss of $8.8 million or $0.70 per diluted share post-split in the year-ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA loss, which excludes an approximate $5.9 million gain from the change in fair value of the warrant liability, gain from collections of an earn-out payment and other non-cash items was $9.8 million, which was just better than the top end of our guidance range.…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Osborne with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Jeff Osborne

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning. Just a couple questions on my side. I was wondering if you could articulate if there’s any exposure to tariffs for any of the components you might be purchasing, motors or anything like that?

Yann Brandt

Analyst

Yeah. Hey, Jeff. From an exposure standpoint, certainly there are items that we import that would now be subject to the tariffs. We’ve -- we are -- the company has a really diversified supply chain, so we work to mitigate it. In terms of the company exposure to having to pay that, the majority of the tariffs are passed through to the customers, whether they’re EPCs or others, contractually. Obviously, we’re always working hand-in-hand with our partners to work to mitigate it. And I would say that any impact here in Q1 and looking forward is really minimal at this point.

Jeff Osborne

Analyst

That’s great to hear. And then maybe just along the same line of tariffs or the recent AD/CVD case, Yann, I was curious, have you seen a pickup in module change configurations for the backlog in recent weeks that might then delay the timing or cadence of deliveries that you might have anticipated a few weeks or months ago?

Yann Brandt

Analyst

No. I mean, I think, largely supply chain had been anticipating the AD/CVD results, right? So, from a total exposure that the market had on the modules and the impact, we haven’t seen anything directly. I will say it is rare for a project, to at least not try to design a system with a module change or even with multiple module options. There’s a lot of movement happening in the module side, which is, obviously, from an architecture perspective, something that we at FTC can withstand given it’s agnostic from a design standpoint. Especially now with 52 gigawatts of module assembly here in the U.S., I think there’s a lot of traction to move domestic, but we haven’t seen any project shifts because of the module impacts.

Jeff Osborne

Analyst

That’s great to hear. That’s all I had. Thank you.

Yann Brandt

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

Thank you so much. Our next question comes from a line of Philip Shen with ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. First one related to tariffs, but more for your customer base. I think, Yann, you mentioned that the pipeline, most of the pipeline is still moving to construction start, but some are waiting for clarity. And so I was wondering if you could talk through, what percentage of what you’re expecting in the next 12 months might be on hold as opposed to pre-liberation day? And I have a follow-up as well. Thanks.

Yann Brandt

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Sure. Yeah. I mean, look, I think, this is where my sentiment around operating flexibility comes hand-in-hand. And it’s in partnership with our customers, oftentimes the EPC and their customer, or ultimately the asset owner and the IPP. I think it really comes down to, the majority of any imports, what is the tariff impact and what is the likelihood from a voiceover from the administration that a deal is pending? No one wants to pay tariffs needlessly. So I think folks are building in some flexibility into the overall timing. There’s some re-sequencing of projects that’s currently happening that just ships starts to certain portions of the project. So everything still remains largely on track. The question is, how long is this wait and see period going to happen? If the voiceover remains that, for example, that the China tariffs are too high and they’ll come down, the question is, not just for tracker parts, but for other components of the site, are we going to import something now or are we waiting for the tariffs to come down? So, I think everyone is, not just FTC, but I think everyone across the supply chain, especially projects with batteries are looking at that closely. In the meantime, obviously our supply chain team is working to ramp up additional capacity and markets that have lower tariffs or are sort of higher in the food chain of what appears to be trade deals in the making. We already have a really diverse supply chain in addition to a really robust capability set here domestically. So, ultimately we’re mitigating everything we can for our customers and projects still want to get built and get on track. And I will say that there is some flexibility that I see on elasticity around the offtake. Certainly the customers that need the energy are at the table as well. And I have heard of some conversations happening between asset owners and offtakers to understand what is the tariff impact and what is needed to overcome in order to keep project timelines on track. There’s such a massive need for energy that there’s a lot of people that want to keep timelines on track, but ultimately clarity in the tariff universe is going to be helpful.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Thanks, Yann. Shifting to kind of the other side of the coin of the same topic. So, in terms of construction starts, we just talked about that, but then flipping over to the activity that is required today to be able to book and really develop projects for construction start and maybe back half of next year or early 2027. Just curious to see if you’re seeing some slowdown in that activity as well. It’s -- people, I got to imagine, are a little bit on pause as they kind of wade through and figure out what they can count on and what they can’t? Thanks.

Yann Brandt

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Yeah. I don’t think development activity has slowed the -- what has, I think, taking a pause on is the negotiations between offtakers and project owners, because it’s really hard to understand what the pro forma looks like, both on the CapEx side with sustained tariff levels, as well as what is the energy market. I mean, obviously this is all kind of correlated. But the project developments themselves, I mean, I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we’re seeing offtakers, both on the corporate side and utility side, participating in the M&A process where developers bringing capital in or selling the project to the ultimate asset owner. We’re seeing offtakers actually participate and invest and drive sort of expansion of those sites, especially where sites have large interconnection and sort of infrastructure investments. The corporates are really active in deploying capital and owning sort of that future pipeline. Solar certainly doesn’t have any shortage of the opportunities to build projects, getting them to start of construction, permitting, use permits locally, et cetera. I think that has always been one of the gating items that determines the funnel of how much is buildable. But I think that’s how I would characterize it. If the tariff level, if the tariff uncertainty, whereas we have a tariff, but the conversation is, it’s coming down or a trade deal is coming, I think that’s the gap that I would be hesitant to determine what the impact would be from a timing perspective, because, again, nobody wants to pay a tariff that they expect to go away in the coming weeks or relatively low number of months. So, that’s the kind of operating flexibility we would bring to our customers, having the domestic content capabilities goes a long way certainly across the Board.

Philip Shen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Great. Thank you, Yann, for the color. I’ll pass it on.

Yann Brandt

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is now open.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you so much. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just on the gross margin and positive adjusted EBITDA, at least 100 level expectations going into the end of this year in the face of all these uncertainties. Could you maybe give some color on what is driving those expectations? Is it just higher volumes you’re expecting to deploy or is there any pricing related factors as well that give you that level of visibility right now?

Yann Brandt

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Yeah. No. Thanks for the question. I mean, look, the -- I keep saying it, obviously, since I’ve gotten here last year. FTC is at this inflection point, right? FTC has this legacy of being in the 2P category, which certainly is the DNA that feeds it and now we’ve been in this ramp up of 1P deployment. We have signed more work and accelerated sort of the recognition of that backlog in recent months. And more than anything, we’re starting to see almost every single project that’s going out to bid to our peers who are much larger, but they’ve been in the 1P category now for many more years than we have. With our product really resonating with EPCs around the speed-of-use, the ease-of-use, it makes it a compelling case. And so it’s that pull through and that taking of market share, because there’s two things, right, was one, taking share from our peers, but also some of the landscape of tracker providers is actively changing. So there’s some open market share to be had. FTC really finds itself, I would say, from a volumetric standpoint, looking at 2024 volumes much lower than where we anticipate and see the growth coming from. And that’s, I think, where our confidence level comes in at in terms of what is the right volume as we grow and take share in a competitive marketplace where we have a really compelling and the newest technology in the market, which I think on almost every feature set stands on top against our peers.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

So in that context, what are the plans for 2P? Is this really going to be phased out and you just be mainly focused on growing the 1P pipeline and revenues?

Yann Brandt

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Yeah. Look, 1P represents 90% of our bidding volume. There are markets where 2P works. You have to have the right sort of environmental situations, I mean, they’re much 2 -- because 2P now is -- 2P with larger modules than when it was originally architected. So there are some U.S. markets where 2P has a place. There are some European geographies where 2P is especially compelling, especially where the agricultural solar farms come into play. So, do we invest a lot into the further development of 2P? We don’t. That certainly is not a priority. Our focus is having a really strong 1P pioneer platform and then we’ve added all these amazing features, high wind. High wind is in the entire Southeast United States now. The overlap of high wind with having amazing hailstow and asset management capabilities, as well as the flood impact, right? So the flood maps and the flood insurance is certainly playing a role now. So building out that 1P platform, I think helping customers get the right project designed in the right CapEx box that they’re looking for, that’s the type of value proposition and it kind of transcends the conversation around price alone because it’s the overall value that the FTC platform can bring to the table and what ultimately will drive and feed our growth.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Understood. Yeah. That’s all I have, guys. Thank you for the color. I appreciate it.

Yann Brandt

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you so much. All right. I’m showing no further questions at this time. Thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.