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Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 31, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for standing by. My name is Constantine, and I will be your conference operator today. Welcome to Fortis' Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. During the call, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. There will be a question-and-answer session following the presentation. [Operator Instructions]. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Stephanie Amaimo. Please go ahead, Ms. Amaimo.

Stephanie Amaimo

Analyst

Thanks, Constantine and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Fortis' second quarter 2024 results conference call. I'm joined by David Hutchens, President and CEO; Jocelyn Perry, Executive VP and CFO, other members of the senior management team as well as CEOs from certain subsidiaries. Before we begin today's call, I want to remind you that the discussion will include forward-looking information, which is subject to the cautionary statement contained in the supporting slideshow. Actual results can differ materially from the forecast projections included in the forward-looking information presented today. All non-GAAP financial measures referenced in our prepared remarks are reconciled to the related U.S. GAAP financial measures in our second quarter 2024 MD&A. Also unless otherwise specified, all financial information referenced is in Canadian dollars. With that, I will turn the call over to David.

David Hutchens

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Thank you and good morning everyone. Today we are pleased to report our second quarter results. Operationally, our teams delivered reliable service to our customers despite a variety of severe weather conditions experienced during the quarter. Through the end of June, we invested capital of approximately $2.3 billion focused on system reliability and resiliency, customer growth and economic development, as well as cleaner energy investments. These capital investments supported rate base and EPS growth. On the regulatory front, we had a number of key proceedings advance. Notably at ITC, the Iowa Supreme Court granted a motion filed by ITC Midwest requesting a stay of the injunction issued by the Iowa District Court for Tranche 1 projects in Iowa. With this stay in place, ITC is now permitted to advance construction of all Iowa Tranche 1 projects originally awarded to the company in 2022. This is a positive development as ITC looks to invest in critical transmission infrastructure to support the clean energy transition and load growth in the region. And today we released our 2024 Sustainability Report. It includes new information on resiliency efforts, biodiversity programs and actions to support energy efficiency and lower emissions. The report also contains information regarding our progress on key sustainability targets. Our 2024 capital plan of $4.8 billion remains on track. During the quarter, construction of the 1,800 kilometer Wataynikaneyap Power Transmission Project was completed. We are proud to be a part of this project that is a majority owned by 24 First Nations, provides socioeconomic benefits and reduces greenhouse gas emissions associated with diesel fire generation previously used in these remote locations. We continue to execute our five year capital plan of $25 billion that is comprised of virtually all regulated investments and a diverse mix of highly executable low risk projects. Rate…

Jocelyn Perry

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. For the second quarter reported and adjusted EPS was $0.67, $0.05 higher than adjusted EPS last year. Year-to-date June reported and adjusted EPS was $1.60 resulting in an increase in adjusted EPS of $0.07 year-over-year. EPS growth was mainly driven by rate based investments across our utilities, new customer rates and warmer weather in Arizona, as well as new cost of capital parameters in British Columbia, which were approved in late 2023 and retroactive to January 1, 2023. The chart on Slide 9 highlights the EPS drivers for the second quarter by segment. Our U.S. Electric and Gas Utilities contributed a $0.05 EPS increase quarter-over-quarter. In Arizona, EPS was up $0.07 due to the favorable impacts of new customer rates and higher retail revenues due to warmer weather. Weather impacts were $0.02 quarter-over-quarter. At Central Hudson, EPS decreased $0.02 quarter-over-quarter largely due to a one-time impact of a regulatory settlement associated with the CIS implementation, which I'll discuss later, as well as the recognition of a regulatory performance target in the second quarter of 2023. At ITC, the $0.02 EPS increase was mainly driven by rate based growth tempered by higher holding company finance costs. Our Western Canadian Utilities increased EPS by $0.02. The increase largely related due to the timing of the new cost of capital parameters in BC, the higher allowed return in Alberta for 2024 was tempered by the timing of operating costs and the recognition of income tax expenses. Our other electric segment EPS decreased $0.01 mainly due to higher costs and lower equity income. For the Corporate and Other segment, the decrease mainly reflects the disposition of Aitken Creek in 2023 and higher holding company finance costs. And lastly, higher weighted average shares reflect shares issued under dividend…

David Hutchens

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Thank you, Jocelyn. The first half of the year continued our long track record of executing our growth strategy. We continued to implement our $4.8 billion annual capital plan, made progress and opportunities beyond the plan and advanced our regulatory proceedings. This is an exciting time to be a regulated transmission and distribution company and we continue to pursue additional growth opportunities that deliver a cleaner energy future while continuing to prioritize safety, reliability and affordability for our growing customers' needs. That concludes my remarks. I will now turn the call back over to Stephanie.

Stephanie Amaimo

Analyst

Thank you, David. This concludes the presentation. At this time, we'd like to open the call to address questions from the investment community.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now conduct the question-and-answer period. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Maurice Choy from RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.

Maurice Choy

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Thank you and good morning everyone. If I could start with your updated view of the electric and gas demand outlooks across your utilities, there is obviously a broad anticipation to higher load due to a number of reasons and that could also lead to higher gas fired power, and potentially some changes in future IRPs. So can you speak to which utilities you're seeing a notable change in demand outlook versus a year ago and how utilities might respond to this?

David Hutchens

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Yes. Thanks, Maurice. I'll start with kind of a broad overview and if you want to dig down into any of the individual utilities, actually we have everybody in the same room for once this call. So, I can ping it over to them if need be. But, I think probably the especially from a gas generation perspective, really the only big utility that we have that we're considering additional gas generation right now is that at UNS. We have as you know the two different utilities are TEP and UNS Electric. And as part of the integrated resource plans that they filed last year, we're adding a total of 600 megawatts, 400 at TEP and 200 megawatts at UNS Electric of combustion turbines to help fill in the variability associated with adding quite a bit more renewable energy into the portfolio. So that was what we filed last year obviously that was based on prior information on load growth et cetera. So we are seeing a lot of potential for additional load growth related to manufacturing and data centers in that footprint. But at this point, we haven't changed our integrated resource plan or changed any timing or additions to it. Although we do as every resource plan is good the day you file it, and then you look at the additional assumptions the load growth and retirement schedules et cetera and adjust them accordingly. But right now we don't have a lot of that built into the current plan, but we are working very hard behind the scenes to see where that might come. ITC also has as we mentioned on the last call, some data centers looking to come into its footprint in both Iowa and I'm sure you're aware in Michigan as well there's a lot of efforts to attract data centers into those utilities footprints of course that we serve from a transmission perspective. So they are there, but there's still a lot of TBD to be determined on how that lands. Those are primarily our two jurisdictions that we'll see the biggest impact from those types of load. Now of course, I should mention Alberta as well because Fortis Alberta, while the distribution company up there, I think we'll see some knock on impacts data center growth there. And just due to the comments of the government of there they are receptive to citing data centers up there, but they have what I'm calling a BYOP bring your own power sort of philosophy to make sure that folks who come up there are going to come and either build generation or contract with it to make sure that they're not pulling it all out of the market. So that's if you want to go into any more details, just let me know.

Maurice Choy

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Maybe just a quick follow-up on that, and obviously there's a lot of discussion about sharing of transmission costs and any other costs related to this new load. How are you seeing or which part of your portfolio are you seeing, the greatest progression and policy making and are you anticipating all the other jurisdictions to follow suit?

David Hutchens

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Yes. So, I think we're testing out a lot of stuff. And I think the big test, but I suppose is in Arizona because we have a vertically integrated utility and we can offer different kind of options for customers that come in there from special contracts to special rates et cetera. There's one principle that I think everyone, every utility, this isn't just unique to us, we'll be following and that is these -- this load has pay for itself. And in fact we think that it should have and will have a positive impact on customer affordability, because of the additional high level of utilization that these high load factor customers bring. So, overall we think it's a good story both from a growth perspective and a customer affordability perspective.

Maurice Choy

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

That's great. If I could finish up on ITC to just better understand, the district court, the Supreme Court judge's order here. Can the stay of the injunction continue endlessly for so long as the full quorum of the supreme court not review this judge's order?

David Hutchens

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Yes, I'll turn that over to Linda Apsey, as you know, CEO of ITC.

Linda Apsey

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Yes. Good morning. Thank you, Maurice. I suppose, yes, it could. There's no requirement that the Supreme Court act in any certain timeline. They do act at their discretion. So to the extent that there was never any ruling or further decision or determination, then yes, the state of the injunction would remain in place.

Maurice Choy

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

And I guess to just follow-up on that, if we have a position on Tranche 2.1 and I suppose ITC is going to proceed with investments in Tranche 1, 2.1. How should we think about these investments if one day, let's say months, years, a decade from now, the original position is referred back, is there any risk of any stranded risk -- stranded asset risk?

Linda Apsey

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Yes, Maurice. No, that we have no concern of any stranded asset risk. Obviously, we are continuing to pursue and invest in these projects according to the MISO tariff. And so the associated expenses related to that would all be under the premise that these projects were awarded to us, and that we have continued to pursue and develop under all of the provisions of the MISO tariff.

Maurice Choy

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Great. Thanks for the color.

David Hutchens

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions

Thanks, Maurice.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question.

RobHope

Analyst · Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question

Good morning, everyone. I just wanted to get maybe some additional commentary on the regulatory outlook for Central Hudson. So the billing issues seem to be behind you and stabilized. New rates are in service, July 1. Do you think the new rates are going to be sufficient to largely close the gap between the achieved and allowed ROE or is this something that probably is more of the next rate filing?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question

Yes. So that should help definitely close that gap, and obviously the difference between allowed and earned over the past couple of years have been related to the CIS implementation costs, the additional cost that we were seeing associated with that which of course was part of that settlement that we agreed we won't recover. So that's all behind us. So on a going forward basis, we expect to see a much closer correlation between earned and authorized ROE and as Jocelyn mentioned to we are filing the next rate case, because it is important to note that that rate case was just a one year rate case. So it's only good for a year and so we're required to file another one and we're doing that tomorrow.

RobHope

Analyst · Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question

All right. Thanks for that. And then more broadly, in a relatively surprised move the Vancouver Council reverse the gas ban there. But when you think about or I just may -- what are your thoughts on the continued need for natural gas in a world where gas buyers seeing it and cooking could help reduce the cost of home ownership as well as just kind of the incremental load that we're seeing pop up for electrical demand there as well? Like could we -- is this the beginning of a change in sentiment on the gas side?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question

So, Maurice, I think that change in sentiment has been around in almost every one of our jurisdictions, but maybe the slight exception of British Columbia, which now I think is coming around that the impact on affordability has to be top line conversation. And as we look at different pathways for the energy service from an electric and gas perspective, we do believe that there is a necessity to have both of those contribute and supply energy in order for us to do it both affordably and reliably. So, we do see some of those -- some of the LDC changes as we've seen in BC. We see our role being a little bit different and maybe more of a capacity role on a going forward basis, but the necessity for that capacity is getting clearer and clearer across every jurisdiction. So I do think people are recognizing that, and I think also one of the main things we have to remember is we're still marching towards a clean energy future here. And we -- I think are also getting people to understand the ability for us as LDCs as gas companies to be able to supply clean molecules. That's a huge thing that we need to remind people of and to focus on. As you probably well know out in Vancouver, we also got a good approval from the BCUC for RNG to be a part of the portfolio for every one of our customers. That was a big win for Roger and his team out there in BC and something that I think that the compound that with the decision to allow natural gas and new buildings again or new construction. I think we're starting to see how we can make this blend work and cost effectively affordably, but still hitting some clean energy targets.

RobHope

Analyst · Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question

Thank you. I'll hop back in the queue.

David Hutchens

Analyst · Rob Hope from Scotia Capital. Please proceed with your question

Did I call you Maurice, Rob? Rob, if I call you Maurice, I'm sorry, but I know who you are Rob very clearly.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Good morning everyone. Maybe just going back to the Iowa situation and the relief on the injunction albeit there's I guess still uncertainty on how this all plays out. How does that impact your thinking and activity around procurement and moving out of projects that might come through in 2025, 2026? Are you being a bit more cautious pushing things out a little bit? And then those projects that maybe wouldn't fit under the right away that 30%. How are you managing those projects in terms of permitting or trying to advance them quietly before you have to put CapEx to work?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, Mark. I'll have Linda ask that. It was a question related to both how do we managing the risk in this from a supply chain perspective?

Jocelyn Perry

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Yes. Obviously, we are in the early stages of advancing all of the LRTP 1 projects. As you recall, obviously, there's significant work that has to go into citing, permitting, regulatory applications. So as it relates to the Iowa 21 projects, we're still in the early stages. And so we haven't even received the IUB regulatory approval for those projects yet. And in fact, we haven't even begun the franchise process that's required under state law. And so I would say, there's no immediate effect or impact, in how we in terms of how we think about supply chain. We have strategic relationships with all of our major vendors. So we have queue capacity for all of our major components of our infrastructure. Our queue capacity for the LRTP Tranche 1 projects as well as our other projects as well in hand. We don't anticipate any supply constraints related to this project or others. And so that's for us not a risk or anything that we are concerned about. We are keenly focused obviously in sort of the legal issues, the regulatory process, those are the -- and the landowner issues, those are the primary areas of focus for us at this stage of those LRTP projects.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Can you remind us again what the planned spending would have been for next year and whether or not that could be impacted here as you sort through these issues?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Planned spending for next year, yes, we're continuing. Obviously, there's no change at this point in time in terms of our planned spend. We obviously will continue to reassess that as we release our next vintage of our five year plan. But obviously, we're continuing to move forward and pursue the projects as identified and we certainly will update if there's any delay or slide specific to the LRTP 1 projects. But at this time there's no change in our overall capital plan.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And then on the regulatory lag docket in Arizona, what would you be advocating for as you work through these workshops in the fall and kind of push that forward?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Yes. I'll turn that over to Susan Gray, CEO of UNS.

Susan Gray

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

All right. Good morning, Mark. Thanks for the question. The commission is considering basically either a forward test year or formulate rate. And so we're having another workshop coming up in the fall to discuss that. And I think either format can work for us as long as we get the design of it correct. I think it's a good sign that we're talking about changing our longstanding rate making policy here. And I think, either way, we'll end up reducing lag. In the workshop, we did we did emphasize the formulaic rate. But I think in either case, we can design it to benefit our company.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

It sounds like you're pretty confident.

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Yes, Mark she's doing stuff down there at TEP. I only dreamed of that was something that we've always been looking for is it was trying to figure out how get out some of that regulatory lag and we've been doing things with other tracker mechanisms et cetera. But this is quite a bit better and cleaner solution and probably a little bit more simpler too.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

It sounds like there is momentum behind it. So safe to say you think something will come to fruition and you won't change roadblocks where this falls out?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

We're optimistic.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Okay. And with the completion of the [indiscernible] project, what would be the sort of long-term vision around your ownership there? Is there strategic benefits to stay invested? Did you think there's potential projects or investments around that that launch a position that you can pursue or does it just become sort of a cash flowing asset that you hold and potentially monetize if and when opportunity presents itself?

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

No, I think we've always seen that as a bit of an entry point into the Ontario market. I mean it gives us a good anchor for looking at additional projects and additional transmission development. We obviously created a tremendous relationship with the First Nations up there. So yes, we'd always love to build more transmission in Ontario. Frankly anywhere within our footprint. So, we would look at, we don't have any plans on a going forward basis other than owning that asset.

Mark Jarvi

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Okay. Thanks, everyone.

David Hutchens

Analyst · Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. As there are no further questions, I would like to turn the call back to Ms. Amaimo.

Stephanie Amaimo

Analyst

Thank you, Constantine. We have nothing further at this time. Thank you everyone for participating in our second quarter 2024 results conference call. Please contact Investor Relations should you need anything further and thank you for your time and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for participating. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.