David Hutchens
Analyst · CIBC. Please go ahead.
Yeah, it plays out based on their specific capital plans. I mean, there's a lot of investments that we're planning on doing that in Arizona, as an example, as we look to exit coal, some of our coal generation, and we're investing in capital plans. That doesn't necessarily have a negative impact from a customer rate perspective, because we're reducing the OpEx and replacing it with capital and can keep our customers' bills pretty much even. And then of course, when you look at the additional growth opportunities, when we think of things like data centers and large manufacturing and the mining customers that we have in Arizona, a lot of that growth does and should pay for itself and maybe even a little bit more of the rest of the customer's rate base, because of the large energy usage and high capacity utilization that they have. So, some of this growth, and I know people generally think growth, because we've been in this decade plus of sort of stagnant energy and sales growth, that as we add capital, it seems to drop to the bottom line to rate increases, when in fact, when you have the rest of the formula changing at the same time with increased sales, we're not necessarily seeing that. So it is really good to focus on obviously that point, because not all growth adds to customer rates and some of it actually helps reduce and increase the affordability for our customers. ITC, from a transmission perspective, they are only one piece of a broader bill. So as their rates go up, they show up on their downstream utility customers' bills. But the whole point of all these transmission investments that ITC is making is, to create a more affordable grid that uses energy more efficiently, gets a better overall dispatch of energy. And in the end, I mean, when you look at these MISO LRTP projects, they have to pass a benefit cost test. And so when they do that, you know that when you build it, the customers will save money based on those estimates.