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First Watch Restaurant Group, Inc. (FWRG)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the First Watch Restaurant Group, Inc. Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call, occurring today, August 5, 2025, at 8:00 a.m. Eastern Time. [Operator Instructions] This call will be archived and available for replay at investors.firstwatch.com under the News and Events section. I would now like to turn the conference over to Steven Marotta, Vice President of Investor Relations at First Watch to begin.

Steven Louis Marotta

Analyst

Hello, everyone. I am joined by First Watch's Chief Executive Officer and President, Chris Tomasso; and Chief Financial Officer, Mel Hope. This morning, First Watch issued its earnings release for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 on Globe Newswire and filed its quarterly report on Form 10-Q with the SEC. These documents can be found at investors.firstwatch.com. This call will include forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from these statements. Such statements include, without limitation, statements concerning the conditions of the company's industry and its operations, performance and financial condition, outlook, growth plans and strategies and future expenses. Any such statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements in the company's earnings release and the risk factor disclosure in the company's filings with the SEC, including our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. First Watch assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise, except as may be required by law. Lastly, management's remarks today will include references to various non-GAAP measures, including restaurant-level operating profit, restaurant level operating profit margin, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin. Investors should review the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP results contained in the company's earnings release filed this morning. Any reference to percentage growth when discussing the second quarter performance is a comparison to the second quarter of 2024, unless otherwise indicated. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Chris.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us to discuss our second quarter performance. We're pleased to report a strong quarter and encouraging underlying trends as First Watch's broad brand appeal and unit growth engine were on full display. Equally important, the decisions we've made around pricing, including, for instance, our resistance to passing along temporary commodity cost inflation are proving to be well received by our customers. Total revenue increased by more than 19%, led by growth from high-performing new restaurant openings and the strategic acquisitions we completed over the past year. This was underpinned by positive same-restaurant sales growth of 3.5%, driven predominantly by 2% positive same-restaurant traffic growth. We enjoyed sequential improvement in both in-restaurant and consolidated traffic trends, generated growth in every daypart and saw and are continuing to see tangible traction from our marketing efforts. We opened 17 new system-wide restaurants across 8 states, and these new restaurants are on track to meet or exceed the strong cash-on-cash returns and ROI that we target. We also successfully completed the acquisition and integration of 19 franchise restaurants in North Carolina, South Carolina and Missouri. Our results illustrate that our growth strategy is working. And before we dive in, I want to thank our teams across the entire enterprise who execute at a very high level every day to deliver these results. As we noted during our first quarter conference call, the second quarter got off to a strong start with April delivering the best monthly same-restaurant traffic growth in more than 2 years. May was similar to April and June exhibited even further improvement. Delivering sustained traffic momentum across multiple quarters builds our confidence in achieving positive traffic for the balance of 2025 and for the full year as we guided to previously. Mother's Day and…

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst

Thank you, Chris, and good morning. Total second quarter revenues were $307.9 million, an increase of 19.1%. Our top line results were driven by the contribution of 149 non-comp restaurants, including 61 company-owned new restaurant openings and the 40 franchise locations we acquired since the first quarter of 2024 and traffic-driven positive same-restaurant sales growth of 3.5%. Same-restaurant traffic was positive 2%. In our fiscal June, we posted the best monthly same-restaurant traffic growth in over 2 years, which reaffirms our confidence in projecting positive same-restaurant traffic growth for the remainder of this year. Our in- restaurant traffic for the quarter, while slightly negative was also the best in 6 quarters. Traffic growth in the third-party delivery channel increased materially during the second quarter, a continuation of the first quarter trend and a direct result of the changes we made to that program earlier this year. As part of our efforts at the start of this year to improve the performance in the third-party channel, we set 2 primary goals: one, to recapture lost traffic in the channel. We have successfully met this goal; and two, to generate incremental profit dollars. We successfully achieved this goal as well. Additionally, we believe that third-party delivery occasions are incremental, not a replacement for in-restaurant dining visits. We believe this is at least partially validated by the fact that both in-restaurant and third-party delivery traffic have been improving simultaneously. We again experienced modest positive sales mix overall during the quarter. Food and beverage expense was 23.6% of sales, up from 21.8% in the second quarter last year. Costs as a percent of sales benefited from carried pricing of around 2.5%, though this was more than offset by commodity inflation in the quarter of 8.1%. Eggs, bacon, coffee and avocados, which comprise 4 of…

Operator

Operator

And we'll go first to Jim Salera with Stephens Inc.

James Ronald Salera

Analyst

I wanted to ask about something you had mentioned in your prepared remarks regarding the majority age of customers kind of falling below 50 years old. And to drill down on that, do you think that, that's a function of broadening the store footprint across more and more markets outside of the core Florida market? Or is there also a component there that Gen Z and younger generations tend to order more off the third-party platforms and now that you're seeing an uptick there that that's changing the composition. Any commentary there would be great.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. Sure. I think it's all the above. I think we're entering new markets where a lot of the customers are having their first experience at First Watch. And you've seen the evolution of our prototype. You've seen the kind of the advancement in our culinary that's continued. So, there's that piece of it. And then I think our team has just done a really nice job of reaching out to that next generation of First Watch customer in our core markets, which I think has been a driver also of trial and expanding our customer base. So, we're really focused on filling the pipeline with the next generation of First Watch customers. We're thinking about the next 40 years just like we did the first 40. So, I think it's really part and parcel to everything that we're doing.

James Ronald Salera

Analyst

And are you able to speak to any differences in frequency or ticket size? I'm trying to get a better sense of how those younger consumers engage with the brand relative to what's kind of been your traditional older consumer?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Not very different, I mean we're not seeing any kind of massive shifts in mix items and things like that. One other proof point to your first question actually is, I mean, if you just think about social media alone, the presence that we have on social media and how active we are just lends itself to attracting that next generation. So even with the introduction of alcohol, for example, I think that helps attract that generation as well. So really, it's our brand voice. It's how we're positioning ourselves and how we continue to just evolve. What we don't want to do is ever have to be in a period where we're having to reinvent ourselves. So, we're constantly evolving as we go along and really focused on long-term consumer trends and staying ahead of them.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Jeff Bernstein with Barclays.

Pratik Mahendra Patel

Analyst · Barclays.

This is Pratik on for Jeff. Chris, it's encouraging to see a more positive EBITDA outlook, especially after the more cautious positioning last quarter. Just wanted to parse out what you feel gives you the confidence to raise the outlook, especially just given the ongoing volatility. We've seen a lot of noise in the data this year. And obviously, consumers are obviously a little bit jittery. Just anything you're seeing in your consumer base that gives you that confidence? And then I have a follow-up.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst · Barclays.

Sure. I think first and foremost, on the EBITDA is relief in egg costs is really a big driver there. That was probably -- was the largest input to our cost inflation, which at the beginning of the year, we projected at high single digits. So, some relief there in the second half of the year is a big contributor. And then honestly, on the consumer front, we're really pleased with the trends we've seen, the underlying trends. We did not see any deceleration in our same-restaurant traffic trends in July. So, it just gives us a lot of confidence that what we're doing is working. And so that's why you saw the kind of the changes to guidance there.

Pratik Mahendra Patel

Analyst · Barclays.

Understood. And Mel, just a question on the pricing strategy. It looks like you took 280 basis points in July. With consumers obviously focused on value, we've heard no shortage of this from some of the companies that have reported this cycle. Just how are you thinking about that going forward and the flow-through to margins in the second half?

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · Barclays.

Actually, our pricing strategy hadn't changed over decades, frankly. We generally visit pricing about twice a year with a cadence of hitting some in the first quarter and then revisiting based on how we see inflation and do a little bit of course correction midyear. So, the pricing hasn't -- the pricing philosophy and our application of it hasn't changed this year and any other time, and it's kind of within the range that we typically predict as a long-term 3% to 3.5%.

Pratik Mahendra Patel

Analyst · Barclays.

Got it. And any implication on the margin there from the pricing action? Or...

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · Barclays.

Well, it's -- when we price, we price to offset what we see as permanent inflation. So, we try not to price for temporary, what we see as temporary inflation. So as we took the 200 basis points you mentioned, it will be helpful to us, and it considers some of the offset of what we see as more permanent or sticky inflation.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Todd Brooks with The Benchmark Company.

Todd Morrison Brooks

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Congrats on the return to positive traffic in the quarter. I wanted to try to tie that return to positive traffic to some of the marketing tactics. Chris, you pointed out that a lot of this was tested kind of late Q3 and into Q4 last year and refined. I guess, I don't know if Matt's there to speak to it or if you want to speak to it, but I'm just wondering where you're seeing traction and how -- and maybe if you can quantify for us how that effort is really aiding that growth in traffic that you're seeing in the recent quarter?

Matt Eisenacher

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Yes. This is Matt Eisenacher. I'll take that, Chief Brand Officer. As Chris said in the script, we did focus a lot of our efforts in certain geographies, really corresponding to some of our largest markets. And we've seen tangible traction in those geographies. And just like anyone would, we compare that to the rest of the system and certain control markets. And so when you ask where the confidence comes in, we've just been really pleased with the results we've seen in those markets versus the rest of the system.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

And I think it's also important to talk about who we're targeting. We're targeting our customers for increased frequency. We're targeting users of the category where we believe that we have opportunities to gain another visit. So -- and we've seen success across that as well. So, it's the who and the where and the how that's getting us there.

Todd Morrison Brooks

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

Perfect. And then just a second, not related question, but I was surprised when you were talking about in the pipeline of openings and out of the last 80 openings that 40% of those have been second-generation locations just because I know that typically, you're getting those A+ sites when you're going in and opening new units now. Can you walk through when you're looking at the build cost, what's the difference in build cost for a second-generation reclaim versus a typical first watch build?

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · The Benchmark Company.

So, our building average on average across all of our restaurants after TI dollars generally runs about $1.7 million along that order. Oftentimes with second-generation space, there's an eagerness of a developer or the landlord to get a new national credit like us into the space and operating using the facility quickly and effectively. And so, as a consequence, the net didn't really change that much. And then the square footage, we oftentimes are for larger footprints are able to -- we might be -- because we're paying for more square footage, we might get a little bit of break on the average rate per square foot, something like that. So, it actually comes out -- actually blends out pretty close to just the first-generation space that's an end cap with great access and egress and those things that we always characterize for our first-generation space.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to Jon Tower with Citi.

Jon Michael Tower

Analyst

Maybe kind of hitting on both of those questions again, different tacks. The media spending and specifically the traffic that you're seeing coming to your stores in response to the media spend that you're getting, are you seeing an increase in customer frequency from existing customers? Are you drawing new customers to the brands? And I'm curious to the brand that is and across both the in-store and the 3PD channel? Or I'm just kind of curious if you could parse that out for us.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

I think given our -- the frequency in full-service restaurants that probably we need a longer cohort to see how much repeat business we're getting or whether we're accelerating visits.

Jon Michael Tower

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe just going back to the last question regarding the second gen. You talked about the pipeline being pretty solid over the next 12 months, I think roughly, what, 130 stores or so in the pipeline today. I apologize, I'm off a little bit there.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes, that's right.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst

That's right.

Jon Michael Tower

Analyst

Okay. When thinking about that and even going beyond that, and I think there was even an article yesterday in one of the trade rags talking about the amount of property sales in casual dining plummeting over the past few years and second-gen real estate really topping up for casual dining. Is this something as a multiyear driver for you guys? So, like the mix of new stores popping up as second gen today, 40% is this going to persist at 40%? Or do you see it running at a 40%, 50%, maybe 60% of new stores over the next several years versus ground-up brand new builds?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. It's hard to tell, but I'll tell you, at least for the next few years because we know it already, because our pipeline is such. But I mean, we're getting first calls is what I'll tell you on these sites that become available. And so, we get to choose which ones we want to move forward with and which ones we don't. So, I guess it depends on the health of call it, casual dining in general. And we're seeing a lot more of these sites than we've seen in the past. And because of the success we've had in converting them, and again, the flexibility that we have to put a really high-performing First Watch in almost any kind of footprint at this point has that high on our list from a target standpoint. So, I don't know what the percentage will look like, say, after '27. But for the next few years, it's going to be a big part of our development mix.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst

But really conforming those larger spaces and second-generation space has been something that is on muscles that we've been able to exercise a great deal over the course of the last 3 or 4 years. And as a consequence, I think we're really good at it now. And the restaurants -- those restaurants as we convert them -- we can do it rapidly. We can train our staff and the choreography and the restaurants of these larger footprint dining rooms. All of that's been helpful to us. And it's -- I applaud our development team for their work with our operations crew and really helping us to move into those places profitably and quickly.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

But Jon, the central theme here is that these are high-quality locations. And so, when they check all our boxes for our -- the discipline that we follow for site criteria, I mean, they're, again, top of the list.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to Brian Mullan with Piper Sandler.

Brian Hugh Mullan

Analyst

You've been asked about marketing and the impact of traffic already. I wanted to ask on some of the actions you've taken inside the restaurants. Last quarter, you talked about improving the value to the consumer for the trifecta. That's a high selling item. You reintroduced the surprise and delight acts of kindness from the GMs. My question is, do you think the consumer is noticing and appreciating this? And are there any other similar moves you could look to make just to continue to make sure the guests appreciate your total value proposition?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. I think they're absolutely noticing it in these times more than ever. And so, we're really, really leaning into that. And I referenced the article in FSR magazine that came out, I think, yesterday or the day before, just they really keyed in on that, and we're keyed in on it from an organization. So, we really believe that the consumer now is at a place where they're looking to be -- they're looking for hospitality. They're looking for high-quality ingredients. They're looking for consistency and value. I mean that -- those are always themes that the consumer looks for. But I think there was a period of time where the consumer may have given up on that a little bit in exchange for value and price. And -- but we're definitely seeing that the consumer is responding well to that. So it's interesting when we get asked about the impact of the marketing and other things, we really -- we look at it holistically, like we really think that we're trying to do the right thing by the consumer across all of our touch points from being conservative around pricing at times where they're feeling crunched, raising the level of hospitality at the same time, increasing portion size. I mean you just don't hear about restaurant companies doing that right now. And so, we think it's an opportunity for us to stand out, and we absolutely believe that the consumer is recognizing that.

Brian Hugh Mullan

Analyst

Okay. And then just wanted to ask about the mix. I think it was down about 100 basis points in the quarter. Could you just remind us the contributing factors? And then talk about how to exploit mix for the back half of the year and what we might expect?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

We actually had slightly positive mix. The impact on the PPA comes from the -- some of the efforts that we've done around the in- restaurant, what we're talking to it. And really, it's related primarily to the reduction of the third-party surcharge. But we did not see a negative mix effect. In fact, it was ever so slightly positive.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Vaccaro with Raymond James.

Brian Michael Vaccaro

Analyst · Raymond James.

CGS International

Analyst · Raymond James.

I wanted to just ask about your raised EBITDA guidance for the year. I think at the midpoint, it implies about $68 million and a return to significant year-on-year growth. Could you provide any guardrails on your expectations for third quarter and fourth quarter, given all the moving pieces? And if not, maybe just walk through some of the key moving dynamics supporting that improvement in EBITDA. Obviously, you talked about the pricing and easing of food inflation. But anything else we should keep in mind as we model out the second half?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst · Raymond James.

I would say the adjusted EBITDA that we expect for the back half of the year to be about even between quarters 3 and 4. Technically, there's -- I don't know that we have any other real guardrails to provide.

Brian Michael Vaccaro

Analyst · Raymond James.

CGS International

Analyst · Raymond James.

Okay. Even that is helpful. And Mel, you touched on tariffs at one point. Could you just elaborate on your latest thinking on the tariff impact this year? And any color there would be great.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · Raymond James.

Well, it's certainly gone from being a headline for us in the first quarter to being less impactful. It's been a choppy topic for us. I think we have about 10% maybe built in for the balance of the year, but it's kind of thinking it might be 10% in terms of just cost items, but it's getting immaterial for this year.

Brian Michael Vaccaro

Analyst · Raymond James.

CGS International

Analyst · Raymond James.

Okay. So just to clarify that, about 10% of your basket might have some impact, but it's an immaterial.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · Raymond James.

I think we've kind of counted it as about 10 basis points or something like that in terms of the full year. I'm sorry, I said 10%, but 10 bps.

Operator

Operator

Moving on to Andrew Charles with TD Cowen.

Zachary Ogden

Analyst

This is Zach Ogden on for Andrew. I just wanted to follow up on the surprise and delight and the increased portioning. How much of a drag are these still having on margins relative to the margin headwinds you saw in 1Q? And is there anything else from the 1Q headwinds you called out last time as you would say, has notably improved since 1Q?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

So those aren't headwinds. Those are actually how we conduct business in the restaurants. And so we view it as something that -- to which the guests respond positively. And as a consequence, it's built into our expectations for the year. What we spoke to in the first quarter, particularly as it pertain to some of the promotions in the restaurants was that we had enthusiasm from our teams. We've now improved some of the tools that they have to monitor that, and our training has helped them in that area, too. But we're pleased with what it is. But it's built into the structure of the company.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst

That said, we did see improvement from Q2 in Q2 from Q1 through increased communication with the restaurants about the execution of it.

Zachary Ogden

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then just based on our math, it looks like the third-party delivery volumes per store were up almost, I guess, over 20% in 2Q. So, could you speak to what's working so well for that part of the business and why it was so much larger of an increase in 2Q relative to the increase you saw in 1Q?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. I mean it's -- we've talked about it. It's -- we've basically optimized our relationship with our providers there and optimize kind of the business model such that we've reduced the surcharge. And it's -- our performance, frankly, in executing the third-party experience has helped with our -- how we show up in the queue when people are looking for places to order from. So that's a key component, accuracy, speed, quality, those type of things. And so, all of that combined, I think, has led to that increase in the third-party channel for us.

Operator

Operator

And Andy Barish with Jefferies has our next question.

Andrew Marc Barish

Analyst

Just wanted to double-click on that for a second. So, was that kind of KDS related and reduced ticket times where you can kind of get under that magical sort of 30-minute mark is sort of that barrier for a lot of the delivery stuff?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

I mean, look, I'll say that KDS helps us execute on any kind of occasion that we have just for more efficiency in the kitchen. But it's the whole cocktail of reducing the surcharge, also communication with our teams about how to manage that channel during peak hours and things like that. So yes, it's all part of it, but keeping the channel open at all times and being able to execute it at a high level. So, the good news is, we had a couple of challenges to address, like Mel mentioned in his prepared remarks, we did address them, and we're really happy with how that channel performs for us now and how we performed executing that channel.

Andrew Marc Barish

Analyst

And just refresh my memory, I think it was last quarter or last year in the 3Q that you guys made some of those changes. So, is that kind of year-over-year mix headwinds approaching the lapping when you put that into place?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. In the third quarter last year, what you may be referring to is the fact that we piloted some of the marketing tactics that we've implemented on a broader basis this year, but we were not -- we weren't adjusting third-party delivery until the first quarter of this year.

Andrew Marc Barish

Analyst

Okay. Understood. And just finally, on dine-in traffic, is it reasonable to think that could be kind of flat to positive in the back half of the year? Or does rolling over some of the pilot testing kind of give you a little bit of a headwind?

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. I mean we certainly like the trend in the dining room traffic, just like we like the overall trend. We haven't been breaking it down too much by sales channel.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Chris O'Cull with Stifel.

Patrick Lee Johnson

Analyst

This is Patrick on for Chris. I just had a quick follow-up on the marketing. Chris, I know you said you were targeting both existing First Watch users and new guests that you know are daytime users, but not necessarily guests of First Watch yet. So I was curious, how does that lean in dollar terms in terms of the investment one to the other, where the majority of the funds are going? And then are there any particular channels like programmatic TV or paid advertising on social media that are particularly effective? And just how you're thinking about the trajectory of that spend relative to what you did in the first half over the second half of the year?

Matt Eisenacher

Analyst

Yes. This is Matt Eisenacher. I'll take that one. Yes, as Chris said, we have seen it as a good first step to really focus on those category users largely because it's just more effective and efficient spend. As you know, going after and finding brand-new customers takes time and consistent investment. And so we saw it as a prudent investment to start and really identify those category users. And yes, it has been much more of an efficient spend for us. All of those channels that you mentioned are ones that we've employed in the first half of the year. Again, all of it is digital related. And I think the benefit is that we're able to target individuals uniquely. So we know from a one-to-one basis who we're targeting versus going after big broad audiences.

Patrick Lee Johnson

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then, Mel, I know you mentioned at least in the first quarter that new unit drag played a little bit of a role in the margin results. And you guys opened quite a few units again this quarter. And so I was just curious kind of how that's trending. I know top line is looking pretty good. And so if you had any comments you could make on just sort of how that margin ramp-up is looking and how to think about any sort of drag you've built in from that dynamic in the restaurant margin over the remainder of the year.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst

Yes, there is a -- that's a good question. We always have that phenomena right, that our mature restaurants operate at margins that are a few hundred basis points higher than the new restaurants that are on the maturity curve. We don't generally break them out by group because we know we're always going to have highly productive new restaurants. And the fact is that because of their sales level, they tend to over-index at the margin level because they're outperforming the legacy fleet in term at the top line. And so we'll always have that. So I think there's -- generally, you can count on a pretty similar spread from quarter-to-quarter in terms of the impact on the overall consolidated margin.

Operator

Operator

We'll go next to Sara Senatore with Bank of America.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

This is Isaiah on for Sarah. Just a quick question when we look at COGS versus expectations. Just curious how you guys were able to do better than expected, just given that inflation was at its peak in 2Q? And then a quick follow-up after that.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

So, improvements in our -- we're still a couple of hundred basis points lower than this time last year. So, I would say that inflation still took its bite out of our COGS margin. So, we're happy with where it is. And some of the impacts are just being more mindful of it. And generally speaking, we have a broad enough basket where when we have heightened inflation in 1 or 2 commodities, we'll have a little bit of favorability in a couple of others as it happened this quarter. And last quarter too, our highest -- all of our high-use commodities were very, very high. But I think what you're seeing in terms of doing a little bit better than probably we expected has more to do with just managing it as opposed to actually seeing some decline in the overall cost.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Very helpful. And then just unrelated, but when thinking about the drivers of top line just going into the second half of the year, do you see things as more segment-specific as relating to breakfast or more company specific? And if it's the former, does any improvement in breakfast kind of signal anything about how the consumer is reacting to things or maybe if weekday breakfast is improving to the levels of weekend? Just any color that you have over there.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Yes. Again, we saw improvement in all of our dayparts, which was very encouraging. I can't speak to the rest of the segment, but I know that we're really pleased with our underlying trends and our performance and how that's continued. So I'll go back to my point about the consumer seeking hospitality and quality and all the attributes I listed before. And again, I think we show up perfectly right in the center of all of that. And so I think that's the benefit we're seeing, plus the proactive nature of things we're doing from an operations execution standpoint, from a unit growth standpoint, helping raise our brand awareness and then from a culinary standpoint as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Greg Francfort with Guggenheim.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Guggenheim.

This is [ Ari Rasai ] for Greg. Can you please expand on regional performance? Did you see any pockets of weakness in the quarter? And maybe into the third quarter, do you see any impact from recent devastating floods in Texas? Like anything on that will be super helpful for us. And I wanted to follow up on the second gen. You said CapEx is pretty similar. But anything you can add on ROI and cash on cash, just like to further understand the structure there?

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · Guggenheim.

Okay. All right. Well, regionally, there was no weakness in any region in terms of performance. The -- our trade areas generally perform fairly similarly across geographies as it goes to just the site selection disciplines. As long as we observe our site selection disciplines, the restaurants are fairly consistent without regard to regions. No, we didn't see a lot of impact from floods in Texas. And then what was the second question?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Guggenheim.

Second gen.

Henry Melville Hope

Analyst · Guggenheim.

On second-gen space, we don't relax the underwriting criteria for our new restaurants regardless of their size or what kind of space it is. We're always underwriting for them to get to about $2.7 million in sales by year #3, mature margins in the 18% to 20% range, which generally comes to an ROI of about 18% to 20% as well and a cash-on-cash return at 35% or thereabouts.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst · Guggenheim.

And I'll just remind you that our top decile restaurants are in 14 states and 22 DMAs that kind of puts a finer point on Mel's comment, and we see similar performance with our new restaurant openings, too, even when we're going into new markets. So we love that flexibility of being able to open across geographies and have the same expectations around performance.

Operator

Operator

This now concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Chris Tomasso for closing comments.

Christopher A. Tomasso

Analyst

Great. Thanks, everybody, for joining us on the call this morning. We really appreciate it. Appreciate all the questions. As always, we're grateful for the dedication shown by our entire team, and we're really looking forward to building on this strong foundation throughout the rest of 2025 and beyond. Have a great day, everybody.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines, and have a wonderful day.