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Operator
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 2025 Third Quarter Genpact Limited Earnings Conference Call. My name is Lisa, and I will be your conference moderator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. The replay of the call will be archived and made available on the IR section of Genpact's website. I would now like to turn the call over to Krista Bessinger, Head of Investor Relations at Genpact. Please proceed.
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Krista Bessinger
Analyst
Thank you, Lisa. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Genpact's Q3 2025 Earnings Conference Call. We hope you've had a chance to read our earnings press release posted on the Investor Relations section of our website, genpact.com. Today, we have with us BK Kalra, President and CEO; and Mike Weiner, Chief Financial Officer. BK will start with a high-level overview of the quarter, and then Mike will cover our financial performance in greater detail before we take your questions. Please note that during this call, we will make forward-looking statements, including statements about our business outlook, strategies and long-term goals. These comments are based on our plans, predictions and expectations as of today, which may change over time. Actual results could differ materially due to a number of important risks and uncertainties, including the risk factors in our 10-K and 10-Q filings with the SEC. Also during this call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. We have reconciled those to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings press release. These non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. And finally, this call in its entirety is being webcast from our Investor Relations website, and an audio replay and transcript will be available on our website in a few hours. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to BK.
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · TD Cowen
Thank you, Krista. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Q3 was another strong quarter for Genpact with revenue up 7% year-over-year, reaching $1.291 billion, exceeding the high end of our guidance range by $21 million. Growth in Advanced Technology Solutions continues to accelerate with revenue up 20% year-over-year. This is our fifth consecutive quarter of accelerating growth, reflecting strong momentum as we successfully execute on GenpactNext. Gross margin of 36.4% and adjusted operating income margin of 17.7% also exceeded expectations as we continue to drive healthy margin expansion while making significant investments for long-term growth. And adjusted diluted EPS continues to grow significantly faster than revenue, up 14% year-over-year, reaching $0.97, $0.07 above the high end of our guidance range. We continue to strengthen our foundation with GenpactNext. Growth in Advanced Technology Solutions is accelerating with Advanced Technology Solutions now driving more than half our revenue growth. Revenue per head count is also increasing, particularly in Advanced Technology Solutions, driving total revenue per head count higher. And incremental revenue is coming in at much higher gross margin in 2025. We expect all of these trends to continue longer term. GenpactNext is designed to establish Genpact as a global leader in advanced technology solutions, building on strength of our core business services with accelerating revenue growth and expanding margins. Its growth model has 3 key elements: capabilities, clients and catalysts. We are executing well across each. Let me walk you through the highlights: first, our capabilities, which include advanced technology solutions and core business services. We hosted our second annual AI Day in September with nearly 200 clients and partners in attendance. Our message was clear. Genpact is defining the future of agentic operations. We believe that companies pivoting to agentic operations will redefine their industries, gaining market…
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Michael Weiner
Analyst · TD Cowen
Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Third quarter results exceeded expectations, driven by strong execution across our business. As BK mentioned, momentum continues to build with GenpactNext, and we are seeing our strategic investments starting to pay off. Total revenue increased to $1.291 billion, up 6.6% year-over-year. Advanced Technology Solutions revenue, which includes data and AI, digital technologies, advisory and agentic solutions, accelerated again, up 20% to $311 million, with particular strength across data and AI solutions. Advanced Technology Solutions represents 24% of our third quarter revenue compared to 21% in 3Q 2024. Year-to-date, Advanced Technology Solutions has driven more than half of the total growth for Genpact. Core Business Services, which includes revenue from Digital Operations, decision support services and technology services, increased 3% to $980 million, driven by strength in Digital Operations and technology services, which reflects continued demand for our deep operational and industry experience. This was partially offset by softness in decision support services, which we are actively addressing, as BK noted earlier. Data-Tech-AI increased 9.3% year-over-year to $622 million, and Digital Operations increased 4.3% year-over-year to $669 million. At a segment level, revenue grew 14% in high tech and manufacturing, followed by financial services at 3% and consumer and health care at 1%. Non-FTE revenue, which includes fixed fee as well as outcome deals, accounted for 47% of third quarter revenue, increasing from the prior year, benefiting from continued momentum in advanced technology solutions. Demand for our solutions continues to grow. We signed 5 large deals this quarter. As a reminder, these deals are over $50 million or greater in total contract value, and our pipeline increased from 2Q as clients look to us as partners to run and transform their businesses. Turn to profitability. Gross margin expanded this quarter to 36.4%,…
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Krista Bessinger
Analyst
Thank you, Mike. Before we begin Q&A, I just wanted to quickly note that due to a family emergency, BK and Mike are taking the call from separate locations today. As a result, although we have tested to ensure a seamless connection, you may hear a lag or delay when they're speaking. If that happens, please bear with us as we do our best to get it corrected. Thank you. Operator, we're now ready to take questions.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question today will be coming from the line of Bryan Bergin of TD Cowen.
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Bryan Bergin
Analyst · TD Cowen
I wanted to open up here just as it relates to demand. If you can comment on the bookings performance you saw here in the third quarter, give us a sense on that larger deal momentum, how you're feeling about that. And maybe just has it changed much as you've gone through October and into November?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · TD Cowen
Sure, Bryan. Maybe I'll pick it up, and Mike, feel free to add. So look, overall, demand signals, Bryan, continue to be strong across the board if I see various cohorts of the deal or I look at new clients, existing clients or even various segments. So demand signals continue to be pretty good be it inflows, be it pipeline. And what I must also say that, look, sales cycles, especially for large deals, continue to be -- we are seeing a mix. Some are moving at an accelerated pace -- we closed 5 large deals this quarter -- especially given their size. And others are taking more time to close as we work through long-term transformational road maps, as our clients bake in all of the AI benefits into the deals. And by definition, as you know, large deals represent long-term strategic partnerships. And they have their own timing, own cadence and don't necessarily move with a neat 90-day increment or so. But we feel really good about the overall environment. And Mike, if you would like to comment a little bit more on the booking.
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Michael Weiner
Analyst · TD Cowen
Yes. So first of all, I just want to comment a little bit more into that in total. We're seeing strong demand in both new and existing clients, and we remain committed to not just the full year guidance we laid forth earlier with 6.1% to 6.4% growth for the year, right? I just want to again reiterate our medium-term targets for '26 and '27 of growing at least 7% for those years, respectively, still remains on track, right? With regard to bookings, again, strong pipeline, growing demand, right, will translate into what that revenue is going to be for the medium term. We'll evaluate everything else on a go-forward basis, but we feel really good, particularly about our medium-term targets for the next 2 years.
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Bryan Bergin
Analyst · TD Cowen
Okay. Okay. Very good. And then my follow-up, just around GenAI and agentic contracts and the result in revenue and kind of margin impact. So you mentioned contract values continue to move higher. You're obviously talking favorably about the revenue being at higher margins and ATS having higher growth in margins. Is there any framing you can help with there? At the Investor Day, you talked about kind of the aggregate 300 bps higher margin. Any context you can share around that number as far as is it still in that type of range? Is it changing in any direction?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · TD Cowen
Sure, Bryan. Overall, we feel very good with how agentic contract value is shaping up. We really see this playing in a very strong fashion with no artificial intelligence without process intelligence, as our clients lean in more with trusted partner like us, as we need to implement more complex tools, they need the office expertise, the last mile. And now specifically on the stats, stats continue to trend in the positive direction as well. And what we are really pleased is about the awarded agentic contract value, as Mike noted and I noted earlier, that 30% of that is coming in from newer clients as well, and that's a significant number. And that has improved from that particular day as well, as well as the 300 bps or the growth of -- with our existing clients. So it's all moving in the positive direction.
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Michael Weiner
Analyst · TD Cowen
Yes. So if I could just quickly add on, BK, just to kind of sum it up, Bryan, for you. So BK alluded to when we talked directly about 30% of the awarded agentic contract value year-to-date is coming from new clients. That's a significant number, right? As we move continuously through the year, we're very proud of -- BK talked about the 300 basis points or 3% accretion in terms of total revenue. On a year-to-date basis, we are tracking above that number. That's something we're quite proud of.
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Operator
Operator
And the next question will come from the line of Maggie Nolan of William Blair.
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Margaret Nolan
Analyst · William Blair
Can you help me understand maybe when your clients are not ready to launch agentic operations, what are the primary reasons there? And then anything you can share about how penetrated you are in your client base with the agentic operations offerings and then your expectations for the pace of adoption from here?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · William Blair
This is a long-term trend, Maggie, and it will take much longer to translate. However, we are taking it in a very strong fashion with all of our existing clients, new clients. And for new clients, not surprisingly, a lot of times, their data sets are not ready or the process standardization still has to happen. And it's not just about the technical debt. It's the process debt and the data debt. And you see that in our advanced technology solution because our data and AI set of solutions is really taking hold in a very, very strong fashion. And we got to meet our clients where they are, and that's certainly helping us be it from our core business services or also nudging them towards advanced technology solutions, including agentic but feel really good with all of our existing clients and new clients in taking this agentic journey and reshaping the industry as well as leading the industry from an agentic operations standpoint.
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Michael Weiner
Analyst · William Blair
Yes. I may just add on to that, BK, Maggie. The way we think about it from our clients, right, they're looking for a trusted partner, and they found that in Genpact, right? They need our process level or domain level expertise as they move ahead on their journey, particularly that -- with agentic. But I think it's important, what BK spoke about a minute ago. We need to meet them where they are in terms of their process. I can assure you, we are as aggressive as everybody else can be in pushing agentic solutions and enhancements in technology. But again, it has to be a comfort level that our clients need to have. So we feel very good about both the progression we're making in our core business services and our advanced technology services, and I particularly feel good about the process we've made in our agentic solutions growth.
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Margaret Nolan
Analyst · William Blair
And then in light of some consolidation in the industry as well as maybe more traditional ITO increasing their focus on things like agentic operations, can you just comment on the competitive landscape for you right now and your positioning?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · William Blair
Look, I think -- sure. Look, I think, again, where our differentiation lies is in the last mile expertise, understanding the domain, the process expertise of where the friction points are, and that is where we have spent just about 3 decades maybe. And then the trust that we have built with a number of these clients, a number of these are Fortune 500 clients as you know. And now we are investing heavily in the advanced technology solutions at that edge issues, and we are bringing software at those edge cases that sits on top of many of standard platforms as well as APIs that we have built with systems of records like SAP, Oracle and so on and so forth. And I would also say that the culture matters a lot. And I think we win a lot because of our strong and distinctive culture of, obviously, client centricity but also the start-up mentality that exists and that innovation is taking shape with a ton of speed and agility. So we really feel good about our differentiation, and it's showing up in the numbers in what we are executing on from an organic basis and are really proud what teams are doing.
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Operator
Operator
And our next question will be coming from the line of Surinder Thind of Jefferies.
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Surinder Thind
Analyst · Jefferies
BK, can you maybe provide some color on why maybe upwards of the 30% of agentic work or the awarded contracts are coming from new clients? Is there -- it's hard for me to reconcile given that you would have had much stronger relationships with your existing clients. So what's allowing the win? And kind of what is going on there?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · Jefferies
Yes. So overall, Surinder, there is a strong traction building up with existing clients, too. But what I'm also super excited, that a number of our -- these agentic solutions are taking hold with new clients, too, who are net new to Genpact or are net new to that particular agentic solution. And sometimes those -- they are running these processes or working with other partners. So that is what we are serving as new clients. And -- but I must note that it is our existing clients are also absorbing these solutions fast, not fast enough. I'm nudging -- we are nudging them more. But clearly, all of these are taking hold and therefore, tells us about the total addressable market that we have begun to attack more and therefore, really thrilled with how this AI is turning as a tailwind for us and increasing our total addressable market.
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Surinder Thind
Analyst · Jefferies
Got it. And then, I guess, when I think about just the Advanced Technology Solutions offering, can you maybe talk about the size and scope of those projects and maybe the cadence of how those work, meaning from initial interest to when they convert to revenues and then how quickly you can execute a project and then maybe what the follow-on might look like?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · Jefferies
Yes. I think first, I would go back, Surinder, on one of the core metrics that we shared for Advanced Technology Solutions, which we called at the Investor Day 2x, 2x, 70, 70. And the 2x was it is growing -- Advanced Technology Solutions are growing 2x the rate of the total company, and they are revenue by head count greater than 2x of the total company. And 70% is annuitized. Nearly 70% is annuitized is the point I was wanting to address in that question that you asked. And 70% is non-FTE, and therefore, more value accretion happens for Genpact, too. And these are series of -- as an example, if I think of agentic solutions, these are -- we have the launch, as we talked about agentic AP Suite. And it is one of the fastest solution in the entire history of Genpact that has taken hold, and that is with existing clients as well as new clients. And then data and AI, which is another part of Advanced Technology Solution is growing at a very rapid pace because now a lot of our data demands or the data capabilities are getting leveraged. I mentioned in my prepared remarks about how nearly 100 clients are in our gigafactory, which delivers better ROI on all of the data program and projects. And most of these data programs -- I mentioned Heineken. Heineken data program is a longer-term program. It is not a 7-month effort or 10-month effort.
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Operator
Operator
Our next question is coming from the line of Puneet Jain of JPMorgan.
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Puneet Jain
Analyst · JPMorgan
Really good quarter. I want to follow up on the question that Maggie asked earlier. So first, like it was nice to hear like the case studies on agentic AI. But like are clients ready to move some of those solutions and ideas into production and overcome concerns around governance, change management, in some cases, data and like the technology around that AI solution that they intend to implement?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · JPMorgan
And Puneet, that's where the question of trust comes in. That's where the question of last mile comes in. That's where when we have built over decade-long relationships. I mentioned Heineken or Mars or many other examples that you saw even on the Investor Day. We shared about the WESCO example on the Investor Day, where we used to run accounts payable, but we know the ins and outs. We know how their entire organization is wired in, how the workflow is wired in, where the data issues are, where the friction points are, what are the change management issues in the client organization. So as we implement more complex technologies, you see our clients certainly need trusted partners, is why we are seeing all of this take hold in production environment for our clients. And that is the exact thesis. I talk about no artificial intelligence without process intelligence, and our last mile expertise is creating the most acute differentiation.
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Puneet Jain
Analyst · JPMorgan
And how are some of these contracts structured? We hear like all types of models like the subscription models that some companies are exploring. Like how are you structuring some of these contracts when you manage like a process using your own or third-party identity AI solutions?
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · JPMorgan
The commercial models, that's why we -- as part of GenpactNext, we are very clear about non-FTE models. So that's a shift that we are driving in a very sharp manner towards non-FTE models. And this is our software. So wherever there is a software, there are more subscription ARR-based, early days, but they are more value and consumption-based structure and not resource-based structures.
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Michael Weiner
Analyst · JPMorgan
Quickly add on to that, just to emphasize the point, Puneet, this is our software. This is our IP, right? So we're able to convert it into an ARR-type model, right, and move away from all non-FTE-related commercial models associated with it, which is just logical if you think about it from a software perspective.
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Puneet Jain
Analyst · JPMorgan
Yes. No, that's great to hear. And if I can quickly follow up on that, like do you intend to disclose like how much of revenue stems from those models or specifically or purely from agentic AI-based solutions?
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Michael Weiner
Analyst · JPMorgan
Yes. I mean, it's Mike again. So metrics focused on leading indicators are the best measures we have of the business health right now. So when we go through our 2026, expect to see a more focus on GenpactNext-related metrics, particularly that on our ATS, our Core Business Services, and non-FTE revenue as a percentage are really the key indicators we're going to focus on right now.
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Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] At this time, I'm not seeing any more questions in the queue, and I would like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
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Balkrishan Kalra
Analyst · TD Cowen
Thank you, Lisa. I do want to thank you all for joining us today. We are incredibly excited about the future at Genpact as we continue to define the future of agentic operations. And I do want to thank all of our employees for their unstinted efforts as we drive this change and take this opportunity to thank all of our clients for choosing Genpact and yes, all our shareholders for their ongoing support. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.