David Gladstone
Analyst · Jefferies. Please proceed.
Yes. Hey, Kyle, good to talk to you. So, add-ons, yes, we have been making some of those. As we mentioned this past quarter, we added on to one of our portfolio companies and we are continuing to grow that business. We are aggressively looking for add-ons. That’s the good way for us to do as I mentioned, recapitalizations with some of the companies that are sensible, that’s another good way for us to do it. In terms of the competitiveness, so what we are starting to see is as rates rise, where the impact there clearly is around for the traditional private equity funds, meaning our competition, the leverage that they are being made available for them is certainly declining a little bit, we think. In other words, it’s getting tougher for them to get leverage, for getting the rate even. So, that should thereby mean that we are more competitive because we – right, we bring our own leverage with us and it’s the total package. We are seeing some of that, but having said that, what we are also seeing is private equity firms, frankly, just being more aggressive on the equity. So, in other words, they are less leverage, putting more equity in the deal. And presumably that thinking that’s down the road, they will lay that off in some regard. So, the short answer would be, it’s still a struggle, it’s still competitive. And we are not going to pay some of the multiples that we are seeing, because it really doesn’t work for our model, and it’s not the right way to go. So, we will keep being patient. And I think we will do a good job this year, but it’s going to take us a while to make the kind of acquisitions we would like to make.