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StealthGas Inc. (GASS)

Q2 2009 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 20, 2009

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the StealthGas Inc. Second Quarter and First Six Months 2009 Results Conference Call. For your information today's conference is being recorded. At this time I would like to turn the conference over to your host today Mr. Harry Vafias, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

Harry N. Vafias

Management

Thank you and good morning everyone. Welcome to our conference call and webcast to discuss the results for second quarter and six months ended June, 30, 09. I'm Harry Vafias, CEO of StealthGas and I would like to remind you please that we would be discussing forward-looking statements in today's conference call and presentation. Regarding the Safe Harbor language, I would like to refer you to slide number 1 of this presentation, as well as to our press release and our second quarter and half year '09 results. With me today is Andrew Simmons, our CFO. If you need any further information on this conference call or the presentation, please contact Andrew or myself. So let's start from the slide number 2. We continue with our business strategy despite the uncertainties presented by the world economy today and I would like to highlight how we continue with each implementation in the second quarter and the first half of '09 and later describe the outlook for the remainder of this year. Our primary objective continues to run highly efficient and modern fleet on secure and primary contracts with first class charters that serves a very specific niche market that has no correlation whatsoever to most of our shipping sectors, many of which as you know well continue to experience significant downturns in both Charter 11 in particular through values. Following the sale of the Gas Sophie on June 10 and the delivery of Gas Exelero on June 30th, our fleet numbered 42 vessels, 1400 size gas values and 2 million range product tankers. Looking at the remainder of '09, -- a brand new M.R. product tanker joined our fleet on July 14th. It was immediately closed on the fleet year before charter. A similar vessel on is contracted for delivery on…

Andrew J. Simmons

Management

Thank you, Harry and good morning everybody. We now please turn to slide number 5. The financial highlights of the second quarter of 2009. With an average of 41.6 vessels owned, we realized net income -- net of 800,000 loss on the sales of Gas Sophie, $7.3 million on voyage revenues of 27.1 million, EBITDA of $14.6 million again excluding the loss the sale of Gas Sophie. For the second quarter 2009, we reported a profit 2.7 million interest rates local currency hedging arrangements which included an unrealized non-cash profit of approximately $3.2 million and a realized cash lost of approximately $0.5 million. For the non-cash provision, approximately $200,000 to restrictedstock portion of deferred stock based compensation. Net income was $6.5 million or $0.29 per share, including the 300,000 loss on the sale of the Gas Sophie. Our earnings per share for the second quarter 2009 excluding non-cash items and a loss attributable due to the sale of the vessel was $0.18 per share, calculated on 22 million average shares outstanding. Our net debt capitalization stood at 44.4% at the end of Q2 09, and we continue to believe in maintaining our leverage at moderate levels are and important as in generally it compares to regional majority of shipping companies. We now turn to slide number 6. This slide provides you with an overview of the development of our income statements for five consecutive quarters and comparing our results from the second quarter of 2008 to the second quarter of '09, revenues have declined by 4.9%, EBITDA decline by 12.5% if we exclude the loss of the sales Gas Sophie. Our EPS excluding non-cash items and the sale of the vessel was $0.29 per share or $0.18 per share if these items are included. Although we're always disappointed to announce…

Harry N. Vafias

Management

Let's move to slide 12. This slide shows the relevant seg markets over the past seven years for the medium size and the larger size Gas Carriers. In comparison med size and smaller semi-LPG vessels are from expense from much lower volatility and until recently set the growth in sales earnings from middle 500's. Its clear from this data that our vessels ship form from the core of our business and that as far remote from dry vessel that container from over the past seven years has not experienced, overall fluctuations in rates but these are the shipping sectors in passing and we are hopeful despite the whole economic outlook that this relatively non-volatile study pattern discontinue to remain intact. As I believe, we have proven to date despite the prevailing economic conditions through our reported revenues for the first half of this year. We sponge ourself for further insight by slide 15. EBITDA until now or chose one year equivalent issues in the year 2000 became the drive sectors into 3,500 should be end of Gas Carriers and 3200 semi-vessel vessels, which are difficult of the majority our fleet. As you can see, based on the mean average for these sectors of this quite extended period, the level of volatility still higher in the dry and much spaces on in our core sector. We continue to expect that the supply of product will increase in the next two to three years, plus demands are expected to continue to be steady particularly in the Far-East and developing well therefore we continue to believe that the outlook for our core market is encouraging and vessels continue to be contracted development in through 2011 and 2012 or is expected -- outlook as it materializes. Slide 14. This slide indicates the freight rate…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from Natasha Boyden from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.

Natasha Boyden

Analyst

Thank you, operator good morning Harry and I Andrew, how are you?

Andrew Simmons

Analyst

Morning.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Hello.

Natasha Boyden

Analyst

You mentioned in your release asset values of held up of veteran in the gas carry market and certainly another shipping sectors, can you provide any detail or perhaps the percentage regarding how asset values have declined or held up in your sector? And then secondly over the last couple of calls certainly Harry I think you pointed out that S&P activity has been slim to none, has that picked up at all or you still (inaudible)?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

On your first question I don't need to comment. You saw the sale of the Gas Sophie, the decline usage in 10%. Well as better than me that the tank is the big ones especially and big bulk carriers, the decline has been close to 50%. So I think we lag in that point. On the second question you said these lack of activity of what?

Natasha Boyden

Analyst

S&P activities, selling and purchase in the LPG carrier market, I mean that something I think you said over the last couple of quarters. I just really want to find out whether or not that was still the case or you've seen any pick up there?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

That's still the case because we have discussed many times the banks are not giving any money, just the small buyers that want to buy such thing and think that the prices are attractive, basically cannot. So there is very few S&Ps been done and obviously we are always ready to sell some of the older vessels if we can of course get a reasonable price.

Natasha Boyden

Analyst

Okay. I guess that leads me to trying get a handle on what is especially going forward, do you think asset values have declined enough? Are you are going to focus cash flow generation and de-leveraging? Again I think we've spoken before potentially doing share repurchases.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

The subject has not changed. That we do not do any acquisitions of any type of ships and as discussed before if we can sell some of the older vessels and keep the cash for emergency purposes or if the values decline further then maybe we can use this cash or otherwise we use it to pay down debt

Natasha Boyden

Analyst

Okay. And then lastly, just going to a new build, are they set to be delivered on time or is there a possibility of any delays at all?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Unfortunately for us the Japanese shipyards not only deliver in time but actually deliver ahead of schedule.

Natasha Boyden

Analyst

Okay. All right well, thank you very much.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) We have our next question from Daniel Burke from Johnson Rice. Please go ahead.

Daniel Burke

Analyst

Good afternoon guys.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Hello Daniel.

Daniel Burke

Analyst

Harry, I wanted to ask you a question about China. China has imported record amounts of oil and iron ore in recent months. Can you talk to us about how you see China's role evolving in the LPG market. I guess the fact that their refining throughput’s have been rising, its probably prevented LPG imports from increasing markedly?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

That is true. We have not seen of increase a huge increase of LPG imports in China. Don't forget that the Chinese are slowly, slowly building their own fleets and that applies mostly for tankers and carriers but we have also seen slowly, slowly then all during smaller gas time and buying from gas carriers not now but six, nine months ago. And we believe that China is a major market, that's why we have quite a few vessels working specifically in China, only in China under local capital trades with Chinese flags. We think there's an appetite for them to take more but obviously, we don't expect huge numbers and we would be surprised if suddenly they come out and we see big orders for ships and of course huge imports of LPG. Then forget that also slowly increasing their exposure and their interest in natural gas and obviously, natural gas is a competitor of ours.

Daniel Burke

Analyst

Fair enough, and then a question on the chartering side. Looks like the customer did elect to take the cancellation options that you previously disclosed existed on the Natalie and -- The Emperor also had a cancellation opportunity. Does the operator decide to extend or is that still outstanding?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Whatever options existed in our charted partners have been announced as we always do. We have not announced something else therefore the other ships remains as per the table in the slides.

Daniel Burke

Analyst

Okay and you don't have any further table disclosures. You don't have any other ships facing early auction periods?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Whatever as you know these decisions whatever exist are not up to us, they are up to the charters, where there were early cancellation options, don't forget we have the cash bonus in the company had to pay the cash bonus to us. Therefore it's not the charter party. Because they're paying to us on every single ship that they returned only.

Daniel Burke

Analyst

Fair enough. And then the last question I had was just on voyage expenses, not surprisingly that those are higher given the increase in the spot days of course. But I guess bunker prices were also rising sharply through the Q2 period. Did that in and of itself have an adverse impact on you relative to operating your vessels in the spot market here in Q3, where bunker and oil prices have been a little, I guess a little more flat than they were in the second quarter?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Don't forget that these are merely the ships with very little fuel consumptions and generally do small voyages. That's of course, bunkers affected like they effect all the companies but I would guess in a much, much more degree than for example a container ship that burns 5 times what our ship burns burns or a big tanker. But obviously as a most part of you, and you bank purchase go up and we do voyages. We have to buy the bunkers ourselves and that's an extra expense.

Daniel Burke

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks for your answers.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our every question comes from Matt Beatty from Morgan Keegan. Please go ahead.

Matt Beatty

Analyst

Hello, everyone.

Andrew Simmons

Analyst

Good morning.

Matt Beatty

Analyst

Harry, seems like the last quarter or two you seem to be in indifferent between spot rate in term and now its looks like in the press release you might be more leaning forwards term. Can you talk about the expectations for your spot rate trend in the next 6-12 months?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Before I took the company public, I was always a middle guy. That's why both our private fleets and public fleets are fixed on period. I was not indifferent, I was saying that if we don't see a reasonable number for sufficient period. Then we will play the as ship spot for a couple of months until the autumn comes which hopefully not only the rates will be slightly firmer but there will be more takers for the ships. Generally speaking, we never like spot trading. We are not gamblers. Since day one, we have minimum 75% of the fleeton period, I regained bareboat charters and we are glad to share in the period years we have closed rate to 80 or 90% which was above our initial target. And the target remains the same. Obviously we don't control the market. We are in the worse market in the last decade and we are very, very happy that we are still quite profitable and we still have lots of long charters attached to the majority of the fleet. Obviously, now we have lower ideas and we are a bit softer now in negotiations as everyone is I guess. So it all depends to see how September starts and if there is more interest and our expectations for a cold winter.

Matt Beatty

Analyst

Okay. Andrew this one is probably for you. Can you talk about the dry docking schedule also for the next to 6 to 12 months and any guidance on expenses there?

Andrew Simmons

Analyst

Yeah on the financial, on the slide, there's a figure for dry docking for this year which I think from memory is 1.3 million. And we've already spent some of that in the first half of this year. We spent about 266,000 of that in the first half this year. So it's about 1 million to 1.1 million to go and then for next year we have about $3.4 million of dry docking expenses. Sort modeled in but we have in the past managed to obviously bring those in under that level? That's the level which we are currently mobile in at the moment.

Matt Beatty

Analyst

Okay, thanks guys.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeff Geygan from Milwaukee Private Wealth Management. Please go ahead.

Jeff Geygan

Analyst

Thank you, good morning and congratulations on what I think is really a commendable performance in the very challenging time.

Andrew Simmons

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Jeff Geygan

Analyst

The question that I would have and Andrew this may be best for you regarding the five vessels that you anticipate delivery in 2011 and 12, if market conditions should fail to improve between now and then what type of alternative or contingent plan would you have with respect to taking delivery and financing those vessels?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

I'll answer that. First of all, we have a very good relation with we've built launch of vessels. We are the number one customer, the largest customer by the number of ships built. If this unfortunate situation which you describe takes place which means that the market is as bad as it is now for another three years, close to three years then we have quite a few options actually. One option is to try to delay further the delivery as we have already done so. That's option number one. Option number two is try to cancel one or two ships. Of course it's going to be a penalty. But that we have weigh the pros and cons of that. Another option would be to may be a portion of the money over to the yard being paid in shares instead of cash. Another option would be to sell more ships than we would sold from our second hand fleet to finance these ships either ones are still disappeared. This comes to my head at this moment.

Jeff Geygan

Analyst

Regarding option number two. You described how far in advance would you need to notify the ship yard that you want to no longer accept those ships assuming that they start building them in months or years in advance.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

The ships are build one year in advance. So we have time to go at number one and number two there is no way that yards will accept to cancel the vessels unless of course you are bankrupt. Therefore obviously what you try to do is try to postpone the delivery, not cancelled, postpone the deliveries or let say cancel the first three vessels and may be cancel the last one or something like that.

Jeff Geygan

Analyst

All right. Thanks. I appreciate it.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). Our next question comes from Ross DeMont from Midwood. Please go ahead.

Ross DeMont

Analyst

Hi guys. Harry, a couple of quick questions, did you recently restructure some of your ownership or holdings in the company or did I misread the filings?

Harry Vafias

Analyst

It depends what you mean by restructure, I didn't restructure anything. I have not sold a single share since the IPO.

Ross DeMont

Analyst

Okay.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

I just wanted to give few shares to a family friend that has helped my grandfather 50 years ago and I thought that now is the right time to do it. And therefore I donated shares to him and that was it.

Ross DeMont

Analyst

Okay, that must have been what I read. And on the dividends, once you guys get through your capital commitments this year I know it kind of a bit of a tougher year, I mean when do you think it's appropriate to, I know you consider it every quarter but to put the dividend back in place.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

The dividend will be put back Obviously when the banks are back in business and when the freight market is slightly in better shape than it is today.

Ross DeMont

Analyst

Okay, thanks, that's all I have

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions). As there are no further questions I would like to turn the call back over to your host today for any additional or closing remarks.

Harry Vafias

Analyst

Thank you, I'd like to thank everyone for joining us today for our conference call for half '09 results. We look forward to having you with us again at our next conference call for our third quarter '09 results. I hope to see the majority of you in our next informational which probably is going to take place in October. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation ladies and gentlemen. You may now disconnect.