Ronald Copher
Analyst · D.A. Davidson.
Exactly, yes. And then on the extent you everybody far non-interest expense went down, just to get to the bottom line. So, we are estimating a normal run rate of $105 million give or take a little bit, either side that $105 would be a good run rate. And so the way I get there is for everybody's benefit, if you take the - I'm looking at our non-interest expense summary the comp and employee benefits, it went down to $62.5 million will add $5, $5.2. So let's call that $67 million or $67.5. I think that that will whole because in that number. We had an increase in head count during the first quarter of '14 so those salaries were front loaded. We were able to put people on the work at the start of the year, we also noticed that we had the FTE count went up by 24 that reflect the overtime pay, you heard Randy talk about that work we've been doing on the PPP 1 forgiveness Round 2 getting the new long-term from the customers, we picked up from Round number one. So everybody's been really busy, plus we've had the higher - higher employment taxes. So with all that said, I'm comfortable with $67 million, $68 million run rate for the comp. I'm going to move to the other expense line. It's a $6 million reduction there, $3 million about half of that is not sustainable, part of that is we've been so busy taking care of our customers on PPP Round 1, Round 2. And then just think about that, just the COVID impact, so we haven't spent as much money on what I would call the business development side of the --, the travel, third -party consulting we have been just very, very busy doing that. Keep in mind also in the fourth quarter last year, we talked about this in January we did a lot of year-end clean up. So we could start the year clean for '21. So, but the $6 million in other - about $3 million of that will occur again. I just want to go back for a second on comp and employee benefits, because we were down $8.1 million of decline $5.2 that remaining $2.9 million or $3 million that is not sustainable, because that really relates to the fact in the fourth quarter, we had higher accrued expenses for the really good performance that we were seeing. So that won't happen again. So when you boil that all down, that's just leave all those other expenses, advertising and occupancy. We think those are the right level so stay there. Everybody can see that other real estate owned is only $12,000, we don't have a lot of OREO. That's a real blessing. And then I'll leave it there. But $105 is the real run rate we think everybody should go with.