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Global Business Travel Group, Inc. (GBTG)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the American Express Global Business Travel Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, please note today's call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to the Vice President of Investor Relations, Jennifer Thorington, to begin. Please go ahead when you are ready.

Jennifer Thorington

Management

Hello, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. This morning, we issued an earnings press release, which is available on sec.gov and our website at investors.amexglobalbusinesstravel.com. A slide presentation, which accompanies today's prepared remarks is also available on the Amex GBT Investor Relations web page. We would like to advise you that our comments contain certain forward-looking statements that represent our beliefs or expectations about future events, including industry and macroeconomic trends, cost savings and acquisition synergies, among others. All forward- looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements made on today's conference call. More information on these and other risks and uncertainties is contained in our earnings release issued this morning and our other SEC filings. Throughout today's call, we will also be presenting certain non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted operating expenses, free cash flow and net debt. All references during today's call to such non- GAAP financial measures have been adjusted to exclude certain items. Definitions of these terms and the most directly comparable GAAP measures and reconciliations for non-GAAP measures are available in the supplemental materials of this presentation and in the earnings release. Participating with me today are Paul Abbott, our Chief Executive Officer; and Karen Williams, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining for the Q&A session today is Eric Bock, our Chief Legal Officer and Global Head of M&A. With that, I will now turn the call over to Paul. Paul?

Paul Abbott

Management

Thank you, Jennifer. Welcome to everyone, and thank you for joining our second quarter 2025 earnings call. In the second quarter, we delivered financial results ahead of expectations and reached a significant milestone with the achievement of over $500 million in adjusted EBITDA over the last 12 months. Our focus on efficiency gains and driving operating leverage is clearly evidenced in our Q2 results. Adjusted operating expenses were flat, and we delivered strong adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Increased demand for our software and services resulted in continued share gains. Total new wins value reached $3.2 billion over the last 12 months, including $2.2 billion from SME customers. And importantly, we continue to have a high customer retention rate of 95% over the last 12 months. Our commercial success, margin expansion and improved demand environment give us confidence to raise and narrow our full year 2025 guidance. I'm also very pleased to share an important update on our pending CWT acquisition. We reached a key milestone last week with the U.S. Department of Justice's dismissal of its challenge to the acquisition and are now positioned to complete the transaction in the third quarter. We look forward to creating even more value for customers, suppliers and shareholders. Finally, we have a strong balance sheet with reductions in net debt and leverage. We have nearly $1 billion in available liquidity and importantly, maintain the flexibility to pursue our capital allocation priorities after funding the CWT close, including share repurchases. Given the recent clarity on CWT, we will put a 10b5-1 stock repurchase plan in place under our previously announced $300 million stock repurchase program upon the opening of our trading window tomorrow. This will facilitate additional share repurchases over the next few months, signals management confidence and drive shareholder value with a strong…

Karen Williams

Management

Thank you, Paul, and hello, everyone. Before we get into the specifics for the quarter, I want to reflect on the progress we have made in Q2. I am incredibly pleased with our continued momentum in driving the business forward. We delivered financial results ahead of expectations, exceeding the guidance midpoint we previously communicated. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded. We continue to invest and importantly, we have reached a pivotal inflection point in our financial strategy. The announcement of CWT last week will accelerate our strategic ambitions and enables us to execute on our share repurchases, deploying capital in a disciplined, value- accretive manner. So let's turn to our financial performance in more detail. Revenue reached $631 million, up 1% year-over-year. The increase in total revenue was driven by modest growth in transactions and TTV, increased product and professional services revenue and favorable foreign currency impact. On a constant currency basis, revenue was largely flat year-over-year. Revenue yield, which we define as revenue divided by TTV was 8%. This was down 10 basis points year-over-year, but in line with expectations, reflecting the non- TTV-driven components of the revenue base and a continued strategic shift to more digital transactions, which has a downward impact on yield, but a positive impact on our adjusted EBITDA margin. I am incredibly pleased with the momentum we continue to see across the enterprise when it comes to our focus on driving efficiency and increasing productivity. Our traveler care cost per transaction, our productivity metric improved by 5% year-over-year in the quarter. Adjusted operating expenses were flat year-over-year and actually 2% down on a constant currency basis. And so putting these together, adjusted EBITDA grew 4% to $133 million, and our adjusted EBITDA margin grew 70 basis points year-over-year to reach 21%. We continue to see momentum…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Lee Horowitz with Deutsche Bank.

Lee Horowitz

Analyst

Two, if I could. So nice improvement in the back half of the year. You guys are now pacing at low single-digit FX-neutral revenue growth. I guess does that still underwrite ongoing share gains in the back half of the year? And with that sort of growth still below your long-term growth algorithm, are we simply waiting for some of these more depressed customer segments to enter a better macro environment before you guys return to that longer-term growth algo? And then one on sales and marketing. I guess, sales and marketing expense up decently as a percentage of revenue and volume in the front half of the year. You guys are investing against growth plans. Just any more clarity on the types of investments that are being made within that line, the payback periods you expect on that? And if anything is perhaps structurally changing within your business that is perhaps necessitating a more intense sort of sales and marketing investment plan.

Paul Abbott

Management

Yes. Well, look, thanks, Lee. In terms of the share gains, yes, you should definitely expect to see continued share gains in the second half of the year. In fact, the second part of your question links to the first part. We are increasing our sales and marketing investments, as you've seen, as Karen covered in the presentation. And partly, that's because of the significant opportunity that we see, but also partly because we are operating in a lower growth environment, we need to accelerate the impact of net new wins and share gains. And so we are hoping to see an acceleration as we get into the second half of the year and also, in particular, see a larger impact of net new wins on the growth rate in SME in particular. So that's why you are seeing that increase in the sales and marketing investments so that we can increase the contribution from net new wins in what is a lower growth environment. So hopefully, that answers both parts of the questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Duane Pfennigwerth with Evercore ISI.

Jacob Paul Gunning

Analyst · Evercore ISI.

This is Jake Gunning on for Duane. I understand it's still preliminary, but do you have any visibility into CWT's 2025 performance? And then are there any updated views on the timing of synergy capture you could provide?

Paul Abbott

Management

Jake, on the first question, we're not able to provide detailed information about CWT's financial performance until post close. So we will be able to give you an update on that post close when we announce Q3 results in November. So yes, just need to be a little bit patient on that one.

Jacob Paul Gunning

Analyst · Evercore ISI.

Okay. And on the timing?

Paul Abbott

Management

Sorry, the timing of the synergies. Apologies, Jake. No, we've had obviously a little more time to pressure test the synergies. We're still very confident in the previous data that we shared. So $155 million of net synergies. So that's bottom line impact from the transaction. We expect to deliver those over a 3-year period. And we expect to see, I think it's approximately 30% of those synergies in the first 12 months.

Jacob Paul Gunning

Analyst · Evercore ISI.

Okay. And then really interesting acceleration for May and June versus April. So thanks for breaking that out. How much of April do you think was weighed down by the Easter shift? And then how much of that acceleration was driven by U.S. travel versus other geographies? And then just one more point, the deceleration in APAC, what drove that?

Paul Abbott

Management

Yes. Maybe just the first part. The numbers we're sharing are workday adjusted. So we tried to neutralize for the timing of Easter. Now that's not necessarily 100% precise science, but we are adjusting for the workday difference created by Easter year-over-year. So you should sort of see the majority of the acceleration as being, I think, a sequential improvement in May and June versus April. And then maybe pass to Karen for the second part of the question there.

Karen Williams

Management

So Jake, in terms of the question, was it about the U.S. performance and also APAC?

Jacob Paul Gunning

Analyst · Evercore ISI.

Yes. Yes, the chart breaks out U.S. by region of sale, but just asking for U.S. travel and then the deceleration in APAC from up 6% to up 1%.

Karen Williams

Management

Yes. So from a U.S. perspective, we -- as the chart shows, we saw a strengthening as we saw across the board. I think APAC, that deceleration is primarily driven by Australia. And really, what we're seeing there is it really is about the timing of tariffs in that region and also particularly around kind of the mining vertical.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.

Yehuda Silverman

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

This is Yehuda Silverman on for Toni Kaplan. Just curious about the declines in April again. Are those bookings that are -- are those decisions that are being pushed out? Are they able to -- or expected to be recoverable now that there's a little bit more clarity on restrictions and budget decisions? Or is it more cancellations?

Paul Abbott

Management

Well, what you see there are transaction volumes in the month. And I think April was, I would say, at the height of some of the macro uncertainty in terms of both significant GDP revisions and the introduction of tariffs, if you cast your mind back to April. So I think what happened is we saw, frankly, a stabilization in May and June in terms of the macro environment and companies just getting more confident to plan. So I wouldn't necessarily think of those transactions being recoverable. I would just think about it as being a weaker month that was driven primarily by macroeconomic uncertainty.

Yehuda Silverman

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Great. Got it. And just a quick follow-up on the operating expenses. So G&A noticeably lower and cost of revenue also a bit lower. Can you touch on the specifics a bit more on some areas within those that you're able to lower during times that are a bit more challenging like you saw in April?

Karen Williams

Management

Sure. So we have talked about previously the focus in terms of productivity, efficiency and the $110 million in terms of the cost saves. And so particularly, we're very proud in terms of the progress that we have made in that space in terms of cost of sales, and we've talked on the call in terms of the gains that we're seeing from a traveler care, our servicing side of things, the operations as we're continuing to focus in that area. But then also more broadly across the enterprise as we continue to focus in terms of delivering against that $110 million that we've previously spoken about.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from James Goodall with Rothschild & Co.

James Goodall

Analyst · Rothschild & Co.

I guess just sort of following up from this in terms of the transactions chart that you gave, obviously, stabilization in the back half of Q2. How are things trending into July? We heard a number of U.S. airlines talk about some very strong trends in corporate travel that they've seen in the first 3 weeks of July when they reported. Is that something that you're seeing too? And then second question is on what's implied in terms of the guide for transaction growth in H2. I think in the Q1, that was based on flat transaction growth for the rest of the year because that's what you were seeing. So what, I guess, is implied in H2?

Paul Abbott

Management

Yes. Maybe I'll take the first part on July trends, and Karen can shed about the numbers that are implied in the H2 guide. I mean the short answer is yes, we've been pleased with the trends that we've seen in July. And it's consistent with what obviously we are guiding to the second half of the year. I do think, though, it's worth just as a reminder, September is 40% of our Q3 volumes. So whilst it's encouraging to see stronger volumes in July, that sort of post-Labor Day demand in September really is a very important part of delivering the third quarter. So -- and we're just a little bit too early to call that right now. But yes, we've certainly seen some improvement, and we're encouraged by that.

Karen Williams

Management

And certainly, in terms of your question around transaction and H2 assumptions, obviously, we talked on the call about revenue, but transaction, the midpoint is 2% with a range of 0% to 4%.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And as we have no further questions in the queue, I will hand back over to you, Paul, for any final comments.

Paul Abbott

Management

Well, before closing, just a big thank you to everyone across Amex GBT for your dedication to our customers and delivering another strong quarter. We're very excited about the second half of the year and very much looking forward to welcoming the CWT colleagues and customers into Amex GBT. So thank you very much for joining us today and your continued interest in American Express Global Business Travel. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, everyone. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.