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Gevo, Inc. (GEVO)

Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 11, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Third Quarter 2014 Gevo Incorporated Earnings Conference Call. My name is Ellen and I will be your operator for today’s call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Mike Willis, Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Willis, you may begin.

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

Good afternoon and thank you for joining Gevo’s third quarter 2014 conference call. I am Mike Willis, Gevo’s CFO. With me today are Pat Gruber, our CEO; and Brett Lund, our Chief Licensing Officer and General Counsel. Earlier this afternoon, we issued a press release, which outlines the topics that we plan to discuss today. A copy of this release is available on our website at www.gevo.com. I would like to remind our listeners that this conference call is open to the media and we are providing a simultaneous webcast of this call to the public. A replay of our discussion will be available on our website later today. On the call today and on this webcast, you will hear discussions of non-GAAP financial measures. Non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered in isolation from or as a substitute for financial information presented in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is contained in the press release distributed today, which is posted on our website. We will also provide certain forward-looking statements about events and circumstances that have not yet occurred, including projections of Gevo’s operating activities for the remainder of 2014 and beyond. These statements are based on management’s current beliefs, expectations and assumptions and are subject to significant risks and uncertainty, including those disclosed in Gevo’s most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K, which was filed with the SEC on April 14, 2014 and in subsequent reports and other filings made with the SEC by Gevo. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any such forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements speak only as of today’s date and Gevo disclaims any obligation to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Please refer to Gevo’s SEC filings for detailed discussions of the relevant risks and uncertainties. On today’s call, Pat will begin with a review of our recent business developments. I will then review our financial results for the third quarter of 2014. Following the presentation, we will open the call up for questions. I will now turn the call over to Pat.

Pat Gruber

CEO

Thank you, Mike. Thank you all for joining us on our quarterly call. I believe we had very good quarter. I am excited about providing you an update on the progress we are making in our plant in Luverne and our recent commercial development activities. Here is the highlight. One, our Luverne plant is working well on side-by-side operation producing isobutanol and ethanol. Number two, our commercial activities are ramping up. Demand for our products look good. Winning Formula 1 races with our product is exciting and continues to show the numerous end-market applications for our isobutanol. Number three, we continue to improve on our path to profitability. In the third quarter, the EBITDA burn at Luverne decreased by almost 70% as compared to quarter one of this year and we are still looking to become breakeven at the plant on an EBITDA basis by the end of the year. So, let me first talk about Luverne. We continue to meet our objectives in the side-by-side production of isobutanol and ethanol. Recall that, we have setup our plant in Luverne, Minnesota to use one fermenter to produce isobutanol and three to produce ethanol. In the third quarter, we finished installing Phase 3 of the side-by-side capital and distillation column to assist in removing of water from the isobutanol. The implementation of that project went well and equipment operates as expected. The isobutanol side of the plant is working well. We have learned how to manage to contain infections. We have been pleased with the quality of the crude isobutanol coming out of the process, it’s more pure than we expected. Now, our focus has been on and continues to be on improving the batch size while avoiding infections; the number of gallons per batch and the turnaround time between batches…

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Pat. Gevo reported revenue in the third quarter of 2014 of $10.1 million as compared to $1.1 million in the same period in 2013. The increase in revenue during 2014 is primarily result of the production in the sale of ethanol and distiller’s grains of $9.2 million following the transition of the Luverne plant to side-by-side. During the third quarter of 2014, hydrocarbon revenues were $0.8 million primarily related to the shipment of bio-jet fuel to the U.S. military during the quarter. Gevo also continued to generate revenue during the third quarter of 2014 associated with ongoing research agreements. Cost of goods sold increased to $11.8 million in the third quarter of 2014 versus $4.7 million in the same period in 2013 due to the increased production activity at the Luverne plant under side-by-side. Gross loss was $1.6 million for the three months ended September 30, 2014 versus $3.6 million in the same period in 2013. After deducting depreciation expense, the cash gross loss was $0.2 million for the third quarter of 2014. R&D expense was $3.7 million in the third quarter of 2014 compared to $5.5 million reported in the third quarter of 2013. Our R&D activities in the third quarter of 2014 continued to be focused on the optimization of our technology to further enhance isobutanol production rates at Luverne as well as production-related activities at our hydrocarbons demo plant in Texas, where we produced our bio-jet, paraxylene and isooctane products. R&D expense decreased in the third quarter of 2014 compared with the same period in 2013 due primarily to a $0.6 million reduction in salary and consultant-related expenses as well as a $0.8 million decrease in expenses at the hydrocarbons demo facility. SG&A expense for the third quarter of 2014 decreased to $3.6 million compared…

Pat Gruber

CEO

Thank you, Mike. And I think with that, we can turn to questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions) The first question is from Mike Ritzenthaler with Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Mike Ritzenthaler - Piper Jaffray

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Hi, good afternoon.

Pat Gruber

CEO

Hey, Mike.

Mike Ritzenthaler - Piper Jaffray

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

I was wondering if you guys could provide an update on PTA or the [Inaudible] after market development, how that’s proceeding? Are some of those like higher value hydrocarbons taken a bit of a backseat to kind of seeding the fuel as you look out over the next kind of 6, 12 months?

Pat Gruber

CEO

Okay, let’s break that in parts. First one is the PTA means for everyone else’s benefit it’s the terephthalic acid or the paraxylene that goes into terephthalic acid, which in turn goes into PET. That’s in the process now of being converted into PET by Toray. And so that continues to move forward and so far it’s gone very, very well. In terms of the priority of the hydrocarbons, it’s interesting. The hydrocarbons are I would put them in the hot topic category for people; it seems there aren’t really many companies in the world who have a capability to deliver renewable isooctane and fully renewable jet fuel of the kind that we have, where it actually is the JP-5 or JP-8 and meet those specs. And so those are hot topics. So, we go ahead and work those. As far as delivery product for isobutanol in the specialty fuels area, Gulf and others will be taking that – take that load off us basically, they do the work. Does that answer your question, Mike?

Mike Ritzenthaler - Piper Jaffray

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Yes, it does. I guess as it goes, as it pertains to the purity levels, you are saying that they are a little bit better than expected. Now, does that help with the [tolling] [ph] costs and I have one other follow-up related to that. I was just curious about the [tolling] [ph] costs maybe those come in a little bit lower than you expect to?

Pat Gruber

CEO

Yes, makes it much easier to purify. And as we get better and better at running our process, we haven’t pushed the limits of the plant yet as to how good we can make it. We are still learning.

Mike Ritzenthaler - Piper Jaffray

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay. Yes, I was curious about the [totaling too] [ph] whether that’s considered, if that’s considered a plant level, I mean that’s part of getting product to market. So, I am assuming that, that’s all included in your plant level breakeven economics?

Pat Gruber

CEO

Correct, yes.

Mike Ritzenthaler - Piper Jaffray

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay. All right, super. I guess, one housekeeping item little quick too on SG&A expenses have been ratcheting down I think you guys have been more conscious about that line. Are we at a point where we should continue to see sequential declines in corporate level expenses?

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Mike. That’s our task is to continue to extract as much cost out of the system as possible, so whether that be G&A or on the R&D front, we are always looking for ways to cut costs.

Pat Gruber

CEO

Right. And as we wrap up projects and things change too, and we don’t need the same level of resources as we achieve success and the biotechnology developments have gone extremely well. So, we did need a bigger team and they continue to go really well.

Mike Ritzenthaler - Piper Jaffray

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead

Okay, excellent. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Caleb Dorfman with Simmons & Company. Please go ahead. Caleb Dorfman - Simmons & Company: Good afternoon.

Pat Gruber

CEO

Hi, Caleb. Caleb Dorfman - Simmons & Company: I think it’s a question that we always have, how are you thinking about ramping up the isobutanol production at Luverne facility now that you have an acceptance of the product in market. What is the (average) [ph] you are looking for?

Pat Gruber

CEO

Yes. So, since the last time you asked me this one, which you ask pretty regularly, our thinking is changing and that’s because our bug performance has improved so much. So, right now, we are looking at the equipment and how it applies to the other three fermenters. How our bubble work in the other three fermenters and there is a question of do we covert one or more of those ethanol fermenters back over to isobutanol? And as we get more experience under our belt, it has looked more feasible and reasonable to do so. And so that’s what we are looking at. Of course, the decision actually comes from we have to get good at making isobutanol in the first place. I would feel good when we are up in that couple of hundred thousand, 150,000 to 200,000 gallons per month range on one single fermenter. And if we are good enough to do that, we have our bug working the way it looks like it works, I think then we probably could switch over assuming the margins are all there and the operability of the equipment is all there. Caleb Dorfman - Simmons & Company: So, do you think this could be a 2015 event for sure then or could it possibly [Inaudible] into 2016?

Pat Gruber

CEO

No, it would be – well, I am not going to say for sure on anything, but it’s a 2015-ish thing is what I am thinking about. Caleb Dorfman - Simmons & Company: Okay. And I know in the release and you reiterated this on the call, you said that the long-term production cost targets are achievable at incremental profit learning curve improvement, can you detail what those are, is that just you need to be producing at a higher throughput level or what exactly are those improvements you still need?

Pat Gruber

CEO

Yes. So, what I am specifically referring to is that if you look at the ultimate cost projections of a product like isobutanol, if you take the cost of the carbohydrate and say what does it look like when it’s fully optimized in the fullness of time, that all - and you did that engineering study and wrote it all in a piece of paper you come up with a number and I am saying that, that number all looks valid so far, that we can achieve that. A large part of it is ramping it up. Other parts are just the optimization of it – of the process itself and being good at it. So, it’s the turnaround times, the batch sizes, the throughput in the gallons, the optimization of energy and a whole bunch of things like that, but they are all in the reasonable categories. So, what we like about that is our isobutanol process looks like it will be – it’s a very economical process of what it looks like it will be when it’s all optimized. Caleb Dorfman - Simmons & Company: Okay. And finally you have $14 million in cash, Mike, how are you thinking about the future funding for the company?

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

Well, as always, Caleb, we are going to be opportunistic in terms of fundraising. That said is there are as we always explore other call them non-dilutive type finance - or type of arrangements that provide capital to the company. And Pat alluded to this a moment ago which is related to the hydrocarbons business. We are seeing more and more interest in that aspect of the company. And so we are thinking of creative ways on which we could potentially monetize that in some form of fashion that is beneficial to the entire Gevo organization. And there is a couple of other things that probably too early for me to describe at this stage, but ultimately it’s just going to be opportunistic. Caleb Dorfman - Simmons & Company: Very helpful. Thank you.

Pat Gruber

CEO

Thanks, Caleb.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) The next question is from Jeff Osborne with Cowen & Company. Please go ahead. Jeff Osborne - Cowen & Company: Great. Good afternoon. Just a couple of questions from me. I was wondering, Mike, if you can detail the legal expense assumptions, I think you talked about a $2.1 million reduction, I think that was year-on-year if I heard you right, but with the two new court cases being scheduled, should we go up a similar amount $2 million-ish. I am just trying to get a sense of the OpEx trajectory in light of the legal developments?

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

So, you heard me correctly, that was year-on-year. Brett Lund is here with us, so I will actually turn the question over to him.

Brett Lund

Analyst · Cowen & Company

Sure. So, we have known about these cases for quite a while. They have been hanging around out there. Now, that they are calendared, we actually have started budgeting toward them and we have been pretty successful in the last 2 years in reducing our legal spend by approximately 50% and we will continue to drive down that spend as much as possible, but in terms of specific amounts, we don’t disclose those for competitive reasons. Jeff Osborne - Cowen & Company: Okay, I understand. Can you just talk about in light of the last question or the last analyst question on the cash levels, what is the kind of monthly cash burn now obviously there is some improvements that you have made, but I am just trying to get a sense of what the Luverne facility as well as the corporate overhead is burning?

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So, as we have described previously, our target is to get the plants to EBITDA breakeven. So, again, the target there will be closer and closer to zero in terms of burn. In terms of corporate, ex-litigation, we are running in probably about $1 million a month and then you are on the litigation front for competitive reasons was always somewhat close to vest on that number. Jeff Osborne - Cowen & Company: Okay. And then the last question for me is just you alluded to Pat discussed what you would assess to convert the second fermenter over to isobutanol from ethanol, can you just remind us on what the cost to do that would be and then what the downtime at the facility would be? I am just trying to get a sense of, if you were to put the switch on that middle of next year at some point, how the cadence of revenue would be impacted through that process?

Mike Willis

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, it’s a relatively short changeover to do. So, from the income standpoint or revenue standpoint plan, we would see much interruption. And then in terms of the actual capital costs itself, we have to pin down the details and once we see more performance of the organism that projected out to those other fermenters. So, I can’t give you – it’s not going to be useful, so it’s an incremental piece of capital, small capital. Jeff Osborne - Cowen & Company: Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) We have no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to Pat Gruber for closing remarks.

Pat Gruber

CEO

Alright, thanks for joining us. I appreciate that you have been in the call. Thanks much. Bye-bye.