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Gilat Satellite Networks Ltd. (GILT)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 7, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Gilat's Second Quarter 2024 Results [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, August 7, 2024. By now, you should have all received the company's press release. If you have not received it, please contact Gilat's Investor Relations team at Global Investor Relations at +1 646 688 3559 or view it in the news section of the company's website, www.gilat.com. I would now like to hand over the call to Mr. Ehud Helft of EK Global Relations. Investor Relations. Mr. Helft, would you like to begin, please?

Ehud Helft

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for Gilat's Second Quarter 2020 Results Conference Call and Webcast. A recording of this call will be available beginning at approximately noon Eastern time today, August 7, is a webcast on Gilat's website for a period of 30 days. Also, please note that investors are urged to read the forward-looking statements in Gilat's earnings release with a reminder that statements earnings call that are not historical facts may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All such forward-looking statements, including statements regarding future financial operating results, involve risks, uncertainties and contingencies, many of which are beyond the control of Gilat and which may cause actual results to differ materially from anticipated results. Gilat is under no obligation to update or alter these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, and the company explicitly disclaim any obligation to do so. More detailed information about these factors can be found in Gilat's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, let me turn to introductions. On the call today are Mr. Adi Sfadia Gilat's CEO; and Mr. Gil Benyamini, CFO. I would now like to turn the call over to Adi Sfadia. Adi go ahead, please.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

Thank you, and good day. Thank you for joining us today for our second quarter of 2024 earnings call. The second quarter of 2024 was a good quarter for Gilat in which we showed year-over-year revenue growth. This was primarily due to the strong momentum in our defense business with a significant contribution following the acquisition of DataPath. We expect this strong momentum to continue in the quarters ahead. In addition, another key achievement was our ability to increase our adjusted EBITDA by 10% year-over-year, exceeding $10 million. Most importantly, during the second quarter, we took a major strategic step and announced the acquisition of Stellar Blu Solutions, a leader and first to market in delivering electronically steerable antenna for the in-flight connectivity market. The closing of the acquisition is on track and expected around the beginning of the fourth quarter of this year. In a minute, Gil will discuss the financial elements of the deal in more detail. But before that, I want to discuss why I'm so excited about this acquisition and why this acquisition carries significant potential for Gilat. The acquisition of Stellar Blu culuminated many months of deep due diligence, looking at all aspects of the IFC market, the company, its long-term growth potential and potential synergies with Gilat's existing business infrastructure. This deal has the potential to unlock new strategic customers and create additional significant revenue for Gilat. Just recently, Stellar Blu completed qualification and a supplemental type certification on the multi-orbit side winter aero terminal We have a vision to broaden this product line with a more comprehensive suite of products for the IFC market. I can share that the company has started delivering the first ISA terminal units to its customers. As such, we expect Stellar Blu to add between $120 million to…

Gil Benyamini

Analyst

Thank you, Adi. Good day to everyone. I would like to remind everyone that our financial results are presented on both GAAP and non-GAAP basis. We regularly use supplemental non-GAAP financial measures internally to understand, manage and evaluate our business and to make operating decisions. We believe that these non-GAAP financial measures provide consistent and comparable measures to help investors understand our current and future operating performance. Non-GAAP financial measures mainly exclude if and when applicable, the effect of noncash stock-based compensation expenses, amortization of purchased intangibles, lease incentive amortization, other nonrecurring expenses, other integration expenses, onetime changes of deferred tax assets, other operating income net and income tax effect on the relevant adjustments. The reconciliation table in our press release highlights this data, and our non-GAAP information presented exclude these items. Before moving to the financial highlights, I would like to review the Stella Blu acquisition and provide you with more financial information on the consideration components of the deal. The initial consideration at closing is $98 million. This will be financed from both internal resources as well as the bank loan, ensuring that we continue to maintain a strong level of working capital. The deal is structured with incentives to deliver accelerated growth with a focus on 3 main areas: Parts 1 and 2 of the earn-out, which totals to $48 million covers the ability of the company to successfully execute its plans for the near future and requires that Stellar Blu ramp up its production line and deliver a great number of ISA terminals, not less than specific margin. And that Stellar Blu brings additional new orders at agreed margins, equivalent more or less to its existing backlog. These conditions, combined with the existing backlog, support our expectations of between $120 million to $150 million outlook for…

Operator

Operator

[Operator's Instructions]. The first question is from Ryan Koontz of Needham & Company.

Ryan Koontz

Analyst

Can you just maybe on what your view is of cross-selling the DataPath. You made some comment in the prepared remarks, I think, I didn't quite capture within tension your commentary was. I know that was something that you're working on and sattelite more of a '25 type opportunity. Maybe can you update us on that?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

Indeed, the cross-selling DataPath equipment, it goes both ways. They abuse to bring Gilat's equipment into the DoD and Gilat to sell DataPath equipment worldwide. We are progressing. We are starting to have a dialogue both with some of the DoD agencies and promoting data past equipment worldwide. To be honest, we are more optimistic. These days, we see much more potential than we thought we'll see at the first year from signing. The first collaboration was between Wavestream and DataPath. It's a $12 million order that we received last quarter. Other than that, there is a pipeline that is developing. And I hope that we'll be able to announce several awards soon.

Ryan Koontz

Analyst

Great. That makes a lot of sense. On the infrastructure business, it sounds like you're progressing there with your customer approvals. How should we think about the gross margin outlook there post approval of the Amazonia region?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

So usually, that construction phase is associated with a lower gross margin than the service or operation part of this business. So we expect to finish the construction or almost all of it by the end of this year. And naturally, this will push up the gross margin of this segment to be higher next year.

Ryan Koontz

Analyst

That's great. And on your progress in the LEO market, I wonder if you could share any anecdotes where they're customer-specific or general. Obviously, OneWeb has begun their commercial launch. How should investors think about your current mix of business relative to the LEO market? And how do you see that market developing over the next 18 months from Gilat's perspective?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

So up until today, most of the business we got on the LEO segment relates to solid-state power amplifiers for Constellation gateways. We are not allowed to name names, but we are working with the big players in this segment. Right now, we see 2 very large opportunities from our perspective on the LEO segment, which includes SSPA, networks, modems and also antennas. One of them is one we Gen2 and the other one is Iris Square, which is a European initiative to launch LEO constellation. We are 1 of the 2 finalists in OneWeb, and I believe that they should take a decision in the coming quarter or so. Iris, we answered the RFIs, and we expect -- we expect them to launch the RFPs soon -- and we are eligible to participate because we have a large operation in Europe. In addition, what we see on the LEO side that it's driven a lot of IFC business. For example, Intersat bought from OneWeb capacity, and it will drive a lot of business in the IFC, especially in the electronic steel antenna, which is part of the main motivation and rationale for the stellar Blu acquisition. So to summarize, I think that we are expecting a lot of business from LEO in the coming few quarters. I forgot to mention that also the Satcom Direct antenna development award that we got about a year ago, it also related to the one with constellation over there. We are developing an ESA terminal for business aviation over OneWeb. So all in all, we are seeing very nice business. And with the 2 opportunities, they are very significant for Gilat.

Ryan Koontz

Analyst

That's great. Great update there. on just a follow-up on that on your stellar Blu comments. What should we think of as the key milestones that you're tracking and what are the greatest challenges with getting the production capacity going on Stellar Blu? It sounds like with the terrific backlog, it's really just a matter of execution here? And what do you view as the biggest challenges there?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

So execution is always the name of the game. And indeed, Stellar Blu is now in the midst of moving from development phase to execution delivery phase. I can share that they already delivered first unit to the customers, the best certifications and in the midst of ramping up production. And since we have much more confident today, we even a bit upgrade the initial forecast we gave for next year from $100 million to $150 million to $120 million to $150 million. It's still preliminary, of course, not a guidance. I think that as every company to execute and bring more orders, those are the 2 main challenges of Stellar Blue.

Ryan Koontz

Analyst

Got it. And in terms of that ramp in terms of supply chain and these sorts of things, are there real challenges there with sourcing? Or is it more challenges with regards to any new products you're kind of ramping through the production process.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

No, we don't see any supply chain specific issues. It's just ramping up a new product introduction into the market, which usually takes time. It's not something that is unique to Stellar Blu. It's within every company, including with Gilat when we launched a new product at the beginning, there are challenges on the manufacturing line.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Chris Quilty of Quilty Space.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

I think nice results. Just a follow up on that last question, maybe it sounds like the supply chain and the manufacturing is going well, but can you touch on the STC process. I think you did mention you made progress there, but how broadly are you targeting SDCs,airframes? And who is leading that effort that happened internally at Stellar Blu or do you have partners working on it?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

It's a combination of Stellar Blu and responsibility of the customers, and it's progressing as we expected. Recently, Stellar Blu announced that they got several certifications, and we see it on track. And I think it's not halting any deliveries. The only thing is ramping up production and starting to deliver more units per month. Now we are talking about a few units per month. Soon, we are talking about tens of units. And hopefully, by the second half of next year, we'll be able to deliver more than 100 units per month.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

Great. keeping questions last quarter, you kind of gave us some breakdown of the data path contribution or the organic growth versus acquired growth. Can you share that this quarter?

Gil Benyamini

Analyst

Yes, sure. So this quarter, as I mentioned, most of the growth came from DataPath. If we look on a quarterly basis, the organic growth was negative 4%. On a 6-month basis, it was plus 4% as expected. And I remind everyone that we like to analyze Gilat not on a quarterly basis, but on a longer period kind of analysis due to timing of specific deliveries that might shift a bit to the right or to the left. So generally, we are on track.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

Great. And is the run rate for the amortization reported in the quarter, consistent with what we should expect on a go-forward basis now that DataPath is rolled in and excluding Stellar Blu, obviously.

Gil Benyamini

Analyst

Yes. So in general, as I said in my script, it's about $2.4 million per Q in this quarter. Usually, there are, I would say, two components that might affect this number. First is the amortization or net income at the end of the day is also affected by Gilat share price due to the fact that part of the payment is in shares. So it may fluctuate up or down. The second thing is that part of the amortization is associated with backlog, which is usually amortized over up to 18 months. So you can expect a drop in this $2.4 million around 18 months after closing, which will be middle of next year.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

I think there is a schedule in the 20th of the amortization.

Gil Benyamini

Analyst

Should be. Yes. But it wouldn't cover the change in the share price.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

Right. And you mentioned backlog, so I'll ask, and I know you don't provide backlog, but excluding the Data Path, what are you seeing in overall trends in terms of order pipeline this year relative to your expectations? And are there any factors? We're not -- on the defense market, we're not dealing with a continuing resolution in the U.S. in the aviation market, we are dealing with Boeing and late deliveries. Are any of those macro factors impacting your outlook? Or is it more just company and deal specific?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

In Gilat in most of the cases, it's company and deal specific. But what we do see is the strong momentum in the tied to Intersat and SES open space initiative. We do see a lot of headwinds in the defense, not only through data path also through Wavestream and the satellite networks at Gilat. But overall, if you look at the blended forecast, we haven't changed our guidance. That means that we are on track with our expectations.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

Great. And specific to the cellular backhaul market, you were running really hot, I think a year ago or so with a lot of orders. It feels like that market has sort of slowed down a bit. Is that a correct perception? And do you see any discrete large opportunities for reasons that the market might pick up a little bit on

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

Yes, I agree that the last quarter on Stellar backward was a bit slower than usual. But we don't think it's a trend. We think it's a one-off in the industry. Based on the analysts who cover the market, everyone expects that this market will grow from $150 million tonne today to around $350 million, $400 million in 7 years or so. So we share the same expectation. We see a nice pipeline. So we really hope that it will return. We do see -- starting to see a lot of 5G opportunities. The 5G will drive significant growth in years to come.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

And remind me, is the Sky edge for fully 5G compatible? Or is that a new platform of.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

No. The Sky edge is fully 5G compatible. I remind you that about a quarter ago, in India, we demonstrate together with SCS and one of the largest Indian operators, more than 600 megabit per second into the handset, which is on Sky together with the SES Empower. So from a speed perspective and latency, we are already tell. Of course, no one will get 600 megabit per second to the handset, but this is up to the operator not up to us.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

So a follow-up question just on -- you had talked about the Gilat ESA ,A what are you guys coming up with an AM for that product that we don't have to call the Gilat ESA. And any update there? Obviously, you have that as a project with Satcom Direct. Hughes has sort of come into that market with OneWeb compatible ESA? What is that business jet market looking like? And what do you think the opportunity size for that product is relative to Stellar blu?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

So first of all, our ESA solutions are called in general, ESA family. We see a lot of players that are getting into the market. But at the end, usually, each and every service provider has its own unique terminal. Usually, it's one terminal. In their cases, you see them working with more than one terminal. I know that HNS is cooperating with Gogo on the BA side. But give or take, this is what we see right now. The business aviation is a very large market with a lower potential. And I think that there is room for several players over there to grow.

Chris Quilty

Analyst

Got you. And I guess maybe final question here. When you look at the defense market opportunity, clearly, you're still working the DataPath angle, but have they historically had international exposure for that business? Or was it overwhelmingly U.S. based? And do you have sort of the sales channel within Gilat to move those products? Or does that take some investment in sales and marketing and overseas distribution for some of those projects?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

So historically, give or take about 10% of DataPath business was internationally. They have some channels worldwide, especially in Europe, and they work direct in some of the Asian countries. But now where Gilat has foot on the ground on those countries, we think that we can accelerate the penetration and increase the business. We are already seeing some opportunities in Asia and in Latin America and in other places. And I think that there is a potential to double Database revenues, both in the U.S. and internationally.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Gunther Karger of Discovery Group.

Gunther Karger

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the question. Regarding the postal aviation communications, starting the recent shutdown, new shutdown on the commercial air transport system because of communications. Is there any opportunity will get out on the upcoming acquisition to serve that market. I'm talking about operational communications matingbetween and traffic control suffers and the aircraft in between.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

Our terminals serves the passengers. Of course, they can serve also the crew, but it's not built in a way to have a secure communication between the traffic control and the code. Of course, that emergency if something doesn't work, they can try and use our equipment, but it's not built for that.

Gunther Karger

Analyst

It seems like there could be an enormous opportunity before system, which is completing the problem we've had.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

It's definitely opportunity. We are trying to focus right now on delivering our commitment to the customers. But we when reviewing adjacent markets and future growth engine, it's something that we're definitely going to explore.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Serge Luciano of Freedom Brokers Capital.

Serge Luciano

Analyst

In a moment, I have a couple of questions and more of them are regarding Stellar Blu. I'm just wondering what growth rate and margins do you expect this one next earlier after 2025, maybe at least round figures.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

The only figures right now that we can share is what I said earlier that we expect -- assuming we closed at the beginning of Q4, we expect Stellar Blu revenues to be between $25 million to $35 million and 2015 revenues are between 2025, sorry, revenues will be between $120 million to $150 million. And once Stellar Blu reaches its capacity milestone on the second half of the year, we expect them to be at above 10% EBITDA.

Gunther Karger

Analyst

The second operational expense line, there is some decrease of R&D amount as a percentage to sale or later quarters. In such situation will be stable for the next time or Gilat will need R&D of the acquisition?

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

So R&D changed a bit comparing to last quarter. There's some fluctuation due to the consumption of equipment and so on and the portion of R&D, which is classified to cost of goods sold in NRE projects. So it might fluctuate a bit. Another thing that affects R&D is grant, which were higher this quarter than last quarter, not materially but to some extent, higher. So all in all, this is the reason for R&D to decrease a bit.

Serge Luciano

Analyst

And finally, as it was mentioned, so a minute ago. We have already had PSR 2013 and 2040 in the portfolio of ASA or business relation education. What we do think the family would be replaced by the build products? And EPS, how could it fact.

Adi Sfadia

Analyst

Those are two separate projects. We have no intention to replace neither of the technology. Each one is designed for its own specific customers, and we plan to keep it as is...

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Benyamini, would you like to make a concluding statement?

Gil Benyamini

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. I want to thank you all for joining us on this call and for your time and attention. We hope to see you soon or speak to you in our next call. Thank you very much, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes Gilat's Second Quarter 2024 Results Conference Call. Thank you for your participation. You may go ahead and disconnect.