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General Mills, Inc. (GIS)

Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Tue, Sep 22, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the First Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation all participants will be in a listen-only-mode. Afterwards we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder this conference is being recorded, Tuesday September 22, 2015. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Siemon, Director of Investor Relations at General Mills. Please go ahead sir.

Jeff Siemon

Analyst

Thanks, Cathy and good morning everyone. I'm here with Ken Powell, our CEO; Don Mulligan, our CFO; and Shawn O'Grady, Senior Vice President and President of Sales and Channel Development. I'll turn the call over to them in just a minute, but first let me cover our usual housekeeping items. A press release on first quarter results was issued over the wire services earlier this morning and is also posted on our website. You can also find slides on our website that supplement this morning's presentation. I'll remind you that our remarks this morning will include forward-looking statements that are based on management's current views and assumptions. The second slide in today's presentation lists factors that could cause our future results to be different than our current estimates. And with that I'll turn it over to my colleagues, beginning with Don

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff, and good morning to everyone. Thank you for joining us today. As noted in our press release, General Mills posted strong operating results in the first quarter of fiscal 2016 with 4% constant currency growth in net sales and double-digit constant currency growth in segment operating profit and adjusted diluted earnings per share. We continue to make good progress on our cost savings initiatives and we have clear visibility to delivering our 2016 savings target. We are reaffirming our full year fiscal 2016 growth targets, which currently exclude any impact from the proposed Green Giant divestiture. Slide five provides a summary of the Green Giant transaction. We're selling the Green Giant and Le Sueur brands of frozen and shelf stable vegetables to B&G Foods for $765 million in cash, subject to an inventory adjustment at closing. General Mills will continue to operate the Green Giant business in Europe and select other markets, primarily in Asia and the Middle East under a perpetual royalty free license from B&G. B&G will operate Green Giant primarily in the U.S., Canada and markets throughout Latin America and the Caribbean. We anticipate using the net cash proceeds from the sale for share repurchases and debt reduction. The transaction is expected to be dilutive to our fiscal 2016 earnings per share in the range of $0.05 to $0.07 excluding transaction cost and a one-time gain on the sale. We'll provide you with another update after the transaction closes, which we expect to take place before the end of the calendar year. Now let's turn to the first quarter. On slide six you can see net sales totaled $4.2 billion, up 4% in constant currency. Segment operating profit totaled $826 million, 23% above the prior year in constant currency. Recall that profit was down 15%…

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst

Thanks, Don, and hello everyone. It’s great to be on the call this morning and give you an update on our U.S. Retail sales force and how we are partnering with our customers to drive growth. The mission of our U.S. selling organization is to lead profitable growth for both General Mills and for our customers. This morning I would like to take you -- like to highlight three primary ways to accomplish this mission. First, we drive growth by supporting the fiscal 2016 U.S. retail priorities that Jeff Harmening shared at our Investor Day in July. Second, we accelerate this growth by expanding our reach across new and growing food distribution channels. And finally we look to maximize the return of our efforts by delivering quality in-store execution. And we do this through the efforts of the top sales teams in the industry, as ranked by our customers in the Annual Kantar Power Ranking survey. We are proud of that accomplishment, and more importantly it shows the credibility that we have with our retail customers. We know it means that our customers are counting on us to partner with them for growth. To ground you in the size and scope of our organization we employ around 1,700 sales professionals across the U.S. Our organization includes cross functional teams that call on customer headquarters, a retail organization that make sure our products are merchandised in stores and stocked on shelves and a centralized support group that provides advantaged capabilities to our sales teams. We have expertise in 25 categories, that span all three temperature states and we manage an average of 690 General Mills items in distribution. The primary way we lead profitable growth is by supporting the U.S. Retail segment’s top priorities, which are to grow cereal, accelerate yogurt…

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst

Okay. Hey, thanks Shawn and good morning to one and all. As Don described fiscal 2016 is off to a good start with strong top and bottom line growth. We continue to put the consumer first and have posted solid sales growth on many brands across our portfolio. Let me give you an update on our performance in each of our business segments. In our U.S. Retail segment we delivered strong sales and operating profit growth in the quarter and we made progress on our key priorities for the year. We posted net sales growth for our cereal, yogurt and snacks businesses. We are seeing continued good performance from our natural and organic brands as we increase distribution across the country, as you just heard from Shawn. And we are gaining traction as we address value on key brands like Helpers and Betty Crocker mixes. In cereal we are encouraged by recent trends in the category. As you can see on slide 39 category sales declines have been moderating over the past several quarters with retail sales down about 1% in the most recent quarter. We believe product renovation and innovation are two keys to restoring the cereal category to growth and we’ve been doing our part with many of our recent launches. Our five varieties of gluten-free Cheerios have been flowing on to store shelves over the past month and we just began advertising this news a few weeks ago. While it’s still early days we’ve received very positive consumer response. We’ve also been innovating within specific segments of the cereal category. For example Nature Valley Protein Granola has been benefitting from the increased consumer interest in Granola. We added to our Nature Valley cereal offerings in the first quarter with soft baked granola bites and toasted oats Muesli…

Operator

Operator

Certainly, thank you. [Operator Instructions]. And our first question comes from the line of David Palmer with RBC. Please proceed with your question.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst

Hi, David.

David Palmer

Analyst

Thanks, maybe just a housekeeping. Hey, good morning, Ken. There was a mention about Häagen-Dazs in the retail products led to low-single digit growth in China. Just one little housekeeping question, is the retail, are the retail comps there, are they continuing to be fairly consistent, how are they -- how is the consumer environment in China lately? I think people would be interested to hear that. And then, but more of a core question, the promotional activity that we're seeing in U.S. Retail across all of food is really changing in the latest quad week periods. We're seeing a reduction in promotions. I know you had some merchandising timing yourself, but speaking for yourself and the industry it seems that in-store promotional activity has really dropped off. What are you doing to perhaps shift your spending there and what are you seeing across your peer group? Thanks.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst

Okay David, let me answer the Häagen-Dazs question first. So when I referred to retail I was referring to traditional grocery retail sales in China, and that has increased. I actually don't know by how much, we can probably get you that later. As you look more broadly across Häagen-Dazs and you look at the shops that was driven by geographic expansion. Same-store sales in shops was actually down, as it has been for the last few quarters. And so but all-in on Häagen-Dazs we saw growth there. And then as I mentioned our frozen food business was down 2% or 3%. So we're still seeing headwinds there. We have some good innovation coming on the frozen food line later this year and so we think that, that will help. And but it's still challenging in China and Brazil. On the promotion, I'll make a few, the merchandising, I'll make a few comments and then turn it over to Shawn. We would not interpret a declining trend in merchandising right now. Frankly it's a mixed bag. We are seeing some increases in some categories, a little more frequency of promotion. We're seeing that in yogurt, we're seeing a little bit in cereal. In other categories, for instance in snacks particularly in our fruit snacks and salty snacks we're seeing declines in promotion. Now that's primarily retailer led, some of our retailers are choosing to simply promote those products less often. So I would say our perspective is, it's mixed, and we're not sort of concluding that there is going to be a lower, a less intense promotional environment if anything we're seeing a bit more. I don't know Shawn if you would add anything to that.

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst

Yeah, I think that's right, Ken. And I think if I were to add a word to I'd say it's mixed but stable for right now, over the past quarter. In the categories that we compete in we saw an increase in quality merch support across the categories of 1%, which is nominal. So as Ken mentioned, it is when you look at the broad swath it's 1% category by category. Depending on the position of the players that we compete with, there is some increased activity, or as you indicated David there are some competitors who are backing off their merchandising. But overall I would say stable.

David Palmer

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Robert Moskow with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

Hey, Rob.

Robert Moskow

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

Hi, good morning. So I wanted to ask about the difference between the shipments and the Nielsen data. I think you said that you are shipping ahead of consumption this quarter, in advance of some heavy promotion that's going to happen in second or activity in second quarter. But the direction of our Nielsen data, we're kind of a slave to the numbers here, it seemed to go lower than I would have thought and can you give us a sense for just like, what the shape of the curve is going to look like on a retail basis, like I'm looking at negative 3% declines from a Nielsen perspective. Do we -- should we expect a pretty sharp uptick over the next few months as you get your cereal merchandising in place and maybe the new products start selling? Thanks.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

And that really is, you kind of have answered your question. That's what we expect to see. I mean we did build inventory, as we noted in our remarks, in advance of Q2. And I'll just make a couple maybe of additional points on that. Back-to-school which is a big promotional window for us, it was early last year and actually falls in Q2 this year. So that's a focal point for merchandising for us. We have a very solid line of merchandising on seasonal brands and here we talk about soup and baking and meals, and frankly we didn't execute all that well a year ago in Q1, and so we feel that we have a much better plan. This year we'll be more competitive and so we expect to see that in Q2. We've already talked about cereal and the promotional, not only the gluten-free event. But we also -- we have other promotional partnerships in Q2, movie tie-ins, this sort of thing. They're going to be quite strong and so we expect that to strengthen in Q2 and Q3 and this is all versus Q1 last year when we had protein, which was our big first half launch and had lots of activity that was Q1. So that's a bit of texture, I mean which kind of builds on the point you made. We just -- Q1 was stronger for us last year, there is less activity. We've got things lined up for Q2 and Q3, and that's how we expect the year to play out. Shawn, would you add anything?

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

Just to reiterate the kind of the -- our focus in cereal will be on the gluten-free news, which is probably the best piece of renovation news that we've had in a long time and that really is just hitting shelves now. So we feel good about the merchandising we've lined up with customers because they've been very excited about that news. And as Ken said, our seasonal merchandising, as we went into the holidays last year, I think was more tepid just in execution than we expected to be this year.

Robert Moskow

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

And the back-to-school again, did you say it's going to fall more in second quarter than first quarter this year or is back-to-school comp the same?

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

Yeah, just the timing of the- back-to-schools a week later and so this year versus last year. So you'll see more activity in September than you did a year ago.

Robert Moskow

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

All right. Great, thank you.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your questions.

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from line of Eric Katzman with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, Eric.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning everybody.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Can't let Don off the hook here. So I wanted to, one, I guess, did you change the forecast on the currency headwind for the fiscal 2016 guidance?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, it's about $0.05, I think it is. I think we had $0.04 in July, it's $0.09 now. So about $0.05 swing. And obviously the U.S. dollar strengthens, the Canadian dollars, it’s the A dollars, the euro, the Brazilian real. So yeah we see more of a headwind in our reported results from currency.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, and then I guess on the -- thank you for that. And then on the Green Giant divestiture, so I guess a quantitative question than more of a qualitative, the $0.05 to $0.07 dilution, what -- is that, I guess is that on an annual basis and does that, like are you assuming use of proceeds to buy back stock to offset some of the dilution or kind of what factor you are assuming around that?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Good question. That is a fiscal ‘16 estimate. So it will be a partial year, depending on when the deal closes, that's -- hence the reason we gave you a range. As we’ve talked about, Eric you and I talked about, I talked with other investors, as we talk about our portfolio the reason we’re often asked why don’t we do -- why aren't we more active from a divestiture standpoint and one of the things we always come to is we have very profitable cash generative brands. And so Green Giant has a little under $600 million in sales last fiscal. Its margins were in the upper teens and that’s going to be lost income this year. We’re obviously going to use the proceeds to, as we said half of it is going to be used to reduce debt, half is going to be used to buy back shares. So that will have a somewhat mitigating impact on the results, but at the end of the day it’s a profitable business and hence the reason we got a pretty fair price from B&G.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks for that. Is there a lot of -- is there some stranded overhead associated with it that's…?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, a small, certainly a significant amount of direct overhead, that will go and there is some stranded overhead that will go as well during the course of this year, that's in those numbers as well.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, last question. I guess Ken, on the value changes that you have made with Betty Crocker and Hamburger Helper, like how long do you think you need to wait to see whether those actions are kind of generating the response you hope?

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

We’re already seeing it, Eric and I’ll let Shawn jump in here.

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

So I will take them separately. So in the baking area, where we’ve really shifted our attention to, getting the price point at the shelf right, that’s already been executed, and we’re already seeing the stabilization of that business. On the joint ventures front where it’s the value that's being delivered by increased products in the box, that takes longer to actually execute and get the flow through on the shelf. And so that will probably take us, I would say another 60 days to get it fully on shelf and get a good clean read.

Eric Katzman

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Okay thanks. I will pass it on.

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, thanks Eric.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Ken Goldman with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Kenneth Goldman

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning everyone.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, Ken.

Kenneth Goldman

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Don, just hoping to weigh maybe some of the one quarter gross margin tailwinds you mentioned, just to sort of get a better sense of things. So if I can first, am I missing anything big in terms of the drivers? You talked about, I think lapping high promo expenses, benefits in cost savings, the least amount of inflation in the year, anything large that I am missing there? And then number two if we are sort of thinking about putting those drivers into buckets, maybe which would be the most important in terms of how well the gross margin came in and which maybe had a less important impact in the period?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, those are the key drivers. Actually the other one is we’re seeing growth in U.S. Retail, that obviously has a beneficial mix impact to it, slight favorable mix impact. But you hit the big three and let me just address that, and I think what's probably a question about our balance of the year as well, because you do hit on what is going to change as the year unfolds. So we had a benefit, as you recall a year ago we had higher merchandising expense in the first quarter. We spend much of last year working that down and we started seeing the benefit of that in the back half of the year. We started seeing gross margin expansion starting in Q4. We also have the benefit of our cost savings, that is still primarily hitting our administrative expenses, but we are starting to see some benefit in our gross margin as well. And then inflation, inflation in the first quarter was less than 1%. We still expect to be 2% for the full year. So obviously we'll above 2% for the next three quarters, and that had a beneficial impact, disproportional beneficial impact in Q1. And those three items rolled relatively equal in terms of their impact in the quarter and as the year unfolds. And so we certainly had planned for a very strong Q1, as Ken mentioned in his remarks, in the earnings release, and we're pleased to see it come through.

Kenneth Goldman

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Alexia Howard with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Alexia Howard

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning everyone.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Hi Alexia.

Alexia Howard

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Can I ask two quick ones based on your comments? You talked about e-commerce, can you comment on what proportion of U.S. retail sales are currently going through those kinds of channels today and maybe what proportion of sales you might expect that to go to overtime. And then you talked about the long tail of much smaller SKUs, I'm guessing with much lower velocities. Is there are an opportunity to lock some of those off, and maybe cash off a group of products that are very unprofitable? And what would prevent you from doing that, if it's the right thing to do in terms of the financial impact? Thank you.

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Yeah, thanks for the questions Alexia. Both of them really good, on the e-commerce front, in the U.S. food sales that are going through online are between 1% and 2%. Now that's changing pretty quickly, meaning moving from 1% to 2%. If you said what does it look like out four or five years ahead, all the projections I've seen are in the 5% to 6% range. So it's going to be a high growth area. Obviously Amazon is leading some of the thought there, Wal-Mart.com is investing a great deal to make sure that they and utilizing their stores to make sure they are competitive. And that really is causing all the players in the marketplace to one of the actives in the e-commerce space. So an important place for us to play, we believe, as I mentioned with our portfolio, whether it's small hard to find items or our top turning items, we believe that we're well positioned to capture that growth. As far as the long tail and our look at, our overall distribution of SKUs, they've been several efforts over the years by I would say all the manufacturers to go through SKU rationalization. And in general SKU rationalization, if you just cut off the tail, because a lot of those items are either highly profitable or are covering a lot of overhead, that doesn't really work. So the job first is to get better distribution on the high turning SKUs and replace, get those slower turning off the shelves so that when you do discontinue them, the impact of those is very small at that point. So our first job is to really move our distribution up to our fastest turning items and then consider what things we can discontinue.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

And the only thing I would the only comment I would add to that Alexia is that it's very easy to see e-commerce sales grow very rapidly. We have only to look at other markets where we do business like the UK and France where, for some of our categories our online sales are approaching 10%. So it's pretty clear that we're going to move in that direction very rapidly in the U.S. and this is an area that we're investing in at General Mills to develop our capability and make sure that we can be leaders and great partners for all of our customers who have a lot of interest in this.

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Just to put one final point on what Ken just said, that the piece that will really shift the U.S. landscape on e-commerce is one that moves from being single item search to being full basket, online search, which it has in the places Ken mentioned in Europe and other parts of the world. And you can see that coming and so that's why we expect the growth projections to materialize.

Alexia Howard

Analyst · Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thank you very much. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Bryan Spillane with the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, good morning everyone.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, Bryan.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Just a couple of follow-ups. I guess, first just in terms of Green Giant it's a -- the $0.05 to $0.07 dilution's a partial year. So should we also be factoring something in for next year as well in terms of dilution or do you expect it to be more mitigated by then.

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

It will be that same level but it will be something incremental to that. In the next year we'd have a full impact of the share reduction and the debt reduction. So it will be south of the $0.05 to $0.07, but it will be incremental since this year is only partial year.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, great. And then Don, also just on gross margins, I guess I think what you have said at the start of the year was just that it would be higher than last year. I don’t think you really gave a sort of a magnitude, but I think as we look at this quarter, even if we kind of strip out the benefit from just lower promotional expenses, it looks like gross margins would have been up even little bit more year-over-year in this quarter than it was in fiscal fourth quarter. So just trying to gauge like order of magnitude on, is that sort of 70 to 100 basis point range kind of rate when all the noise settles out or is there something that’s going to eat in the gross margin expansion more as we move through the balance of the year?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

This year we were up 290 basis points. Last year in the comparable quarter we were down, I believe was 200 basis points. So to think about a full year increase in the 50 to 100 basis points is a pretty fair range to be in.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · the Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of David Driscoll with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

David Driscoll

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Great, thank you, good morning.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Hi, David.

David Driscoll

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Don, first question for you is just with the quarter up 30% year-on-year, did this quarter exceed your internal expectations?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

We were pleased with the sales growth. I think the cost pieces that came in were pretty much right in line with our expectations, because again they were pretty foreseeable in terms of the merchandising timing, the cost savings, the inflation. What I would say is we are very pleased with U.S. retail sales. The volume came in probably a point ahead of our expectations and from a company standpoint; stripping out Annie’s and ForEx we had organic volume growth of 1% and price mix of 1%. So a total sales of, organic sales growth of 2% and we haven’t seen a quarter like that in a couple of years. So we felt good about the start, and what I would say is we’ll continue to monitor that and we’ll handle the proceeds of that similar to what we’ve done with our plan and our cost savings which is if we see some plus there is going to be we invest back and some that we flow and we will keep you apprised of what we see.

David Driscoll

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, but it sounds like it might be fair to say that you did better in the first quarter. You keep your guidance the same, because at least your constant currency guidance is same, but the FX guidance all-in is worse by a nickel, you have got this dilution that’s kind of not incorporated into the guidance of 5% to 7% from Green Giant, but all things equal here the first quarter is off to a very good start and there are positives. But maybe just too early to want to do anything to the guidance, is that a fair recap?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

I think that is a fair recap. We feel good about the quarter, it did come a little ahead of our expectation, on the top line and obviously flowed through to the -- a little bit better on the bottom line but it’s only one quarter, and as Ken and Shawn talked about most of our initiatives are still in front of us which we feel good about but we want to see play out before we revise our expectations for the full year.

David Driscoll

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Ken, on International it sounds like on a constant currency basis whenever I hear that, it never really sounds that bad, and then when I look over at the International profit line it’s down like 20%. So I guess what I struggle with is just understanding why we are not seeing more pricing, given the sizable FX headwinds there and just the magnitude of profit decline seems quite large, what can be done about this?

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

That’s an excellent question and Don will be very happy to…

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Well, first of all, I will tackle the question on the earnings. I mean, again we were 20% down, strip out ForEx it was 30 -- it was 3% and that has a number of factors, anything from transaction FX to launch cost for Yoplait in China. So some timing items as well. We still fully expect not only mid-single digit sales growth on a constant currency basis in international but margin expansion on top of that. So we still feel good about how the year will play out. In terms of your question on pricing, pricing comes into play locally, when there is local inflation that’s offsetting it. If there is not necessarily economic factors that are driving it, it’s a little bit tougher to get pricing in the marketplace but we take pricing where we believe that we have the opportunity to do it and you have seen that come through probably most fully in our Latin American markets overtime where you do see local inflation.

David Driscoll

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

And maybe just one follow-on on the international side did China worsen here, has the run rate continued to get worse, given the last couple of quarters here and the comments on Wanchai Ferry?

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

We can follow up with you. My recollection is that it's been -- it was pretty stable. It was better in Q4 and it was, I mean we were kind of -- we were down 1% here in Q1. But I mean it's basically been stable. And so I would say it didn't worsen. Of course we'd like -- we need to see it improve.

David Driscoll

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. I'll pass along. Thank you so much.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst · Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Maybe one more question.

Operator

Operator

And the last question comes from line of Jonathan Flee with Atos Research [ph]. Please proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks very much. Just a detail question and a little bigger picture one. First would be, I think in the prior quarters you've given us the contribution between pricing and volume on Annie's to the U.S. retail business. If you have that detail and you could give it, I would appreciate, just trying to work through that on U.S. Retail. And the second question would be bigger picture, ex the new launches would you say that retail, so just as you think about your promotional strategy, going into this holiday selling season, independent of any new products. Are retail or inventory levels above the average because of your potential promotional plan at this point or is it really -- is that maybe a little bit of that build that was mentioned earlier in the call, I think by Rob, is all of that new product driven. Thanks very much.

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst

Well, I'll take the Annie's question, Jonathan. Annie's was a three point benefit to our net sales U.S. overall net sales. Two points of that was volume and one point was price mix.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got you, okay.

Donal L. Mulligan

Analyst

As you saw on the slide the company was one point each.

Kendall J. Powell

Analyst

I don't -- do we know the answer to the second…?

Shawn P. O'Grady

Analyst

On inventories, we believe that our inventory levels are actually inline as we go in to Q2 this year. That was not as much the case last year when we were in this position. So I would expect, as Don indicated earlier that kind of our movements and our earnings [ph] should kind of track well from here on now.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Okay, thanks very much.

Jeff Siemon

Analyst

We know our friends that cannot go [ph] on the phone. So I think we should wrap up here.

A - Kendall J. Powell

Analyst

Okay. Thanks everyone.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day.