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Glaukos Corporation (GKOS)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Sat, May 9, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to Glaukos Corporation's First Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. A copy of the Company's press release issued after the market closed today is available at www.glaukos.com. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. This call is being recorded and an archived replay will be available online in the Investor Relations section at www.glaukos.com. I will now turn the call over to Chris Lewis, Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Strategy and Development. Please go ahead.

Chris Lewis

Analyst

Thank you and good afternoon. Joining me today are Glaukos President and CEO, Tom Burns; CFO, Joe Gilliam and COO, Chris Calcaterra. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the call to questions. To ensure ample time and opportunity to address everyone's questions we request that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you still have additional questions you may get back into the queue. Please note, that all statements other than statements of historical facts made on this call that address activities, events or developments we expect, believe, or anticipate will or may occur in the future are forward-looking statements. These include statements about our plans, objectives, strategies and prospects regarding among other things our sales, products, pipeline technologies our US and international commercialization efforts, the efficacy of our current and future products, our competitive market position, financial condition and results of operation as well as the expected impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on our business and operations. These statements are based on current expectations about future events affecting us and are subject to risks, uncertainties and factors relating to our operations and business environment, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond our control. Therefore they may cause our results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by forward-looking statements. Review today's press release and our recent SEC filings, including the Risk Factors section on our most recent Form 10-K for more information about these risk factors. You find these documents in the Investors section of our website at www.glaukos.com. Finally, please note that during today's call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures including results on an adjusted basis. We believe these financial measures can facilitate a more complete analysis and greater transparency and the Glaukos is ongoing results of operations, particularly when comparing underlying results from period to period. Please refer to the tables in our earnings press release that is available on the Investors Relations section of our website for a reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measure. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Glaukos President and CEO, Tom Burns.

Tom Burns

Analyst

Thank you, Chris. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today. The coronavirus global pandemic has created an unprecedented time for all of us in different ways, both professionally and personally. I want to start by saying on behalf of everyone at Glaukos, that our hearts go out to all those affected by COVID-19 and we are especially grateful for the healthcare workers and first responders who are selflessly serving on the front lines. Before we talk about our first quarter performance in the current trends on our business. I want to provide an update on what we've been doing at Glaukos in response to this rapidly changing environment. I have been thoroughly impressed with the response and resiliency of our employees around the world, who make up the strong foundation of our disruptive franchises in glaucoma, corneal health and retinal disease. Despite negative personal and professional impacts induced by COVID-19, our employees have initiated a new fundraising campaign through the Glaukos charitable foundation that allows them to contribute money to charitable organizations providing relief for those affected by this pandemic. I want to especially thank them for their dedication and commitment to maintaining their important work to move the company, their families and their communities forward during this challenging time. I am confident we will get through this together and emerging even stronger, more efficient and more capable company. We are also building upon our longstanding mission to offer product donation and patient assistance programs providing access to our technology for those who lack access to care insurance, including those who have lost insurance benefits due to the COVID-19 pandemic. As a current situation emerged, we immediately developed and implemented, implemented business contingency and continuity plans beginning in the first half of March and executed on several key…

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Thanks, Tom. As a reminder, I will be discussing our financial performance on a non-GAAP or pro forma basis and will summarize our GAAP performance later in my prepared remarks. I encourage each of you to review our GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation which can be found in today's press release as well as the Investor Relations section of our website. Further, considering the macro environment in which we are all operating. I intend to handle this section of our call a bit differently than is our typical patents. I will tend to provide brief perspective on our first quarter, estimates of our current operating performance and where possible build upon Tom's views on how we expect things to unfold as we progress over the course of 2020. Glaukos net sales for the first quarter of 2020 were $55.3 million and we estimate that the COVID-19 impact for our first quarter sales was approximately $9 million with more than two-thirds of that impact in our US glaucoma business. In fact, as Tom noted, we exited March with a revenue run rate that was less than 15% of what we had experienced earlier in the month as procedures came to a virtual halt in nearly all of our major direct markets globally. That deceleration continued particularly through mid-April and our preliminary estimates for April indicate that our run rate was closer to 10% of our prior plan. Now turning to our US glaucoma franchise specifically, our first quarter US glaucoma sales were approximately $32.6 million where as I noted, we felt the most pronounced impact from COVID-19. To put this in the same context as the overall business, our US glaucoma revenues exited March at approximately 3% of our prior daily averages, a trend that continued for the month of April. Further,…

Tom Burns

Analyst

All right. Thanks, Joe. So while the extent and duration of the current challenges are difficult to predict. I am confident we'll manage through the current situation with the same resiliency and effectiveness as we manage through past challenges and I believe we will come out of this and even stronger, more efficient and more capable industry leader. We continue to advance our strategic vision to establish Glaukos as a unique strategic vision care leader with tremendous potential for long-term growth and profitability. With that, I'll open the call to questions, operator.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Brian Weinstein of William Blair. Please go ahead, your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi guys, good afternoon. This is Andrew [ph] on for Brian on today. Thanks for taking the questions. Tom, maybe just start as we sort of think about some of the possible scenarios that you laid out your full recovery. Can you maybe talk and give a little bit more color on some of the key considerations that sort of lead you to develop the scenario of that sort of mid-May, June beginning to recover. Thanks.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Sure. Andrew, it's Joe. I mean I'll jump in there to start. We obviously you can imagine a situation like this we're looking at a lot of different scenarios and talking to our customers on a daily basis. But what I can say is we've obviously, I think we saw a bit of a trough in the mid-April timeframe a slow a very slow recovery coming out of that over the course of the second half of April and then we've been encouraged over the last handful of selling days as many of these geographies start the restarting process and how that's translating into orders for us. But as Tom and I both noted, while we're happy to see some of those trends beginning to recover. We want to stay cautious about what that means in terms of the pace of that recovery. And it really is a unique situation across each geography and each of the practices within those geographies.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thanks for that. And then as we think about sort of the physician capacity in the system to see all of these delayed cataract procedures and then begin to layer on the new patient volumes. How are you guys thinking about that in light of this new sort of that dynamic here? Thanks.

Chris Calcaterra

Analyst

Hi Andy, this is Chris. So we do know that there is a backlog of patients. The deep doctors are anxious to get to. And in my conversations with the surgeons, they're comfortable with getting to them.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

We don't know is how quickly new patients will come in, and what the appetite for patients will be to come into the offices, and to see the physicians, and to schedule there surgeries. We're hopeful that this will be a growing trend where patients become more comfortable as physicians are starting to implement different patterns of how they will see these patients having them wait in their cars before they come into the waiting room, and putting in a number of things in place to help the patient feel more comfortable about seeing these doctors, so we'll just have to wait and see but I do believe that the backlog that was created from the March and April time frame, will eventually the majority of them be same.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes the line of Matt O'Brien of Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, guys. It's Adam [ph] on for Matt, thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to start with one on competition in the US makes business, just latest thoughts on competitive dynamics there, and then curious have you heard anything about the competition in that marketplace, and how they have been impacted from COVID-19, I guess what I'm trying to ask is are they well capitalized enough to continue to impact you going forward and (inaudible) follow up.

Chris Calcaterra

Analyst

Okay, Andy, excuse me -- Adam, this is Chris. In terms of the dynamics of competition I would say that very similar to what we talked about in the Q4 earnings call, we saw in Q1, up until the COVID-19 impact in mid-March, and that was that we saw continued trying and trialing from Ivantis. We saw some continued work with the tissue destructive procedures. I would say that again what we've seen from IVantis in hydrous is what we've been expecting and there was no real big surprises there. The tissue destructive procedures there is a bit more of a larger sales force by a couple of these companies, so you are seeing more commercial activity. But having said all that we put a number of things in place, programs, initiatives, that we felt we were starting to see the impact of in the latter part of February, and first part of March, beyond that and I can't say much more but it's more of the same that we talked about in the Q4 earnings call, and we saw some positive results from some of these initiatives in the latter part of the quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, got it thanks for the color there. And then, just for the follow-up; wanted to ask about the OUS mix business, and what you're seeing there, has Europe I guess started to come back our mine a bit or is it still a little slow to restart and then Japan is under a state of emergency, so just wondering how you're thinking about any potential impact to your business there in the coming months. Thanks for taking the questions guys.

Tom Burns

Analyst

Sure. So you know Europe is -- that's a broad question, because every country is a bit different. We've seen a little bit of an upstart in Germany where they were pretty steady during the COVID crisis, and have begun to do more procedures although not significantly more. But Japan in the first quarter who's kind of the shining star in terms of our international business where they had continue to operate at a pretty good clip. They all currently in holiday right now, so can't say how they're doing right now but a lot of these doctors are doing their procedures in private facilities, and aren't impacted by the shutdown that's been taking place in the public and private hospitals.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

I might add about one thing quickly Adam, which is I think Europe, and you heard it a little bit of our prepared remarks in general on our international business, the trough on average wasn't quite as deep as it was in the United States right, so where we're starting to see coming off the ground a bit in the US, Europe had continue to operate albeit at levels far lower than what we typically have seen but far higher than what we have been experienced in the US, so I think that those markets had continued to be open to a certain extent, so we would expect the recovery curve here to be a little bit slower coming off of that base. As far as Japan is concerned as Chris mentioned, we'll have to continue to watch that we're obviously expecting there could be some potential disruption there based upon the trends, and of the diagnosed cases in the last couple of weeks in that region.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay very clear, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Larry Biegelsen of Well. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi guys, this is Kevin [ph] on for Larry today. Thank you so much for taking the questions, another kind of recovery question. We've obviously seen a number of states addressing a return for elective procedures, but I assume there will be a challenge to motivate some of these patients to come back right away, so the question is based on kind of what you're hearing from your physicians, what percentage of mix procedures do you expect will eventually return, do you expect some people to drop out of the system and then I'll ask my follow up-front. I completely understand you're being cautious about trends improving from April, just appreciate any thoughts on how you're thinking about the next few quarters in the business. You mentioned that later in 2020 cataract can get back to normalized levels, are you implying there that you think we could be back to pre-COVID cataract makes procedure levels by say Q4, just wanted to put a finer point on that. Thanks so much guys.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Kevin. Not, maybe I'll start there and -- Chris or Tom want to add some color, they can. I think the way we're thinking about the trends and clearly there is a reason here why we're not providing guidance because there is a lot of uncertainty around a variety of the inputs as we go forward in any particular geography. What I can comment on is what we've been seeing. And from a big picture standpoint, how we think about it rolling forward what we've been seeing, as I've mentioned before was a trough that occurred in sort of mid-April a slow climb out of that across the various areas of our business US glaucoma, international glaucoma and corneal health. And then a little bit of an uptick here in the last handful of days in the month of May. As we go forward, we're going to be watching like all of you. What happens with the pandemic itself in each of these geographies and how our customers really pull through both that backlog as well as bringing new patients in. We have conversations on a daily basis with those customers and they, as you might expect want to get back to work and want to be treating these patients who need the therapy, but we stay relatively cautious about how that would translate into specific numbers in any given month or quarter, because we know they're facing a lot of logistics, we know that the different patients will be impacted in different ways. And there may be slower to come back and what even these physicians might expect. So that's the real reason for the cautiousness and that's the reason for, I think what Tom said, and I tried to reiterate is that we expect a gradual recovery from where we're sitting at today. That kind of occurs on a month-to-month basis through the end of the year. As we think about that end of the year active period. Obviously is highly dependent upon in environment in which COVID not impacting a significant way where we're at. We think there is a potential getting back to something that's close to normal. But I think I have to add to that, remember when you're thinking about normal, the ability to grow the market will be impacted somewhat during this period of time too, so normal is probably better define is kind of the run rates that had been being experienced versus maybe what was originally implied in our prior guidance and on the fourth quarter call.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Super helpful. Thanks, Joe.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes the line of Robbie Marcus with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this is actually Allen [ph] on for Robbie. I guess just a little bit on the additive side. So this is obviously like a huge impact on your business both glaucoma and for TREX. But when we think about your competitors are generally smaller, less well capitalized. So, any kind of maybe perverse ways should we think about this impact may be prevented planting an opportunity for you to really stabilize our competitive positioning.

Chris Calcaterra

Analyst

Hey Alan, this is Chris. I'm not in a position to comment on the competition, but what I will say is we utilize this time to really engage our customers. We've reach out to them. We provided a number of webinars, online training programs, product specific webinars. We use this time with our market access team to engage their office staff to work on reimbursement and to kind of maximize what we can leverage our relationships during this downtime. Having said that, I think we continue to gain support and goodwill with our customers such that when things do open up. We're hopeful that, that will bode well for us as we move forward through the summer months and into the latter part of the year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. And then, just a quick follow-up; you mentioned briefly that you saw a tariff increase in the UK. I was wondering if you could elaborate on that. And then I guess just like the kind of reimbursement headwinds that you had mentioned previously last year, how are the dynamics around that playing out.

Tom Burns

Analyst

Well, I'm glad you asked that there was a pretty significant reduction in the tariff in 2019. And in April, they published the new tariff in the UK and that equated to about £30 across the four different codes and so that was a moving in the right direction. Beyond the UK tariffs, other positive things that have taken place. Perhaps the biggest one is that Meridian [ph], the MAC here on the West Coast. There was an increase of 44% and their physician reimbursement bringing their reimbursement in line with all the other MACs. Additionally in Australia, we received approval for standalone and we're excited about that and the position payment there is twice of what it is. We're in combination with cataract surgery. So those are some very positive things that have occurred from a reimbursement standpoint.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jon Block of Stifel. Your line is open.

Jon Block

Analyst

Hey guys, good afternoon. A lot of helpful metrics. Maybe the first one, Joe, Chris, is there a new goal for the 500 docs previously that you wanted to train in 2020. Excuse me. And then, Joe, I think previously you talked about market growth of 10% to 13%; what contribution of that was coming from the new docs, because clearly that's going to be pushed out -- was in 10%, 20%, maybe if you can frame that for us, that would be very helpful. And then I have a follow-up

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Sure. Hi, John. Thanks for the questions. I'll take that in the two pieces that you, that you laid out, so first on doctor training. There is a new target per sale I mean, obviously our sales force is going to continue to try to push forward on every front and bring as many doctors into the fold and, as Chris and Tom both alluded to we're pursuing creative strategies to make that -- make that happen. In the remarks I tried to reference the reality that I expect there to be a headwind, but it's hard to quantify that, because quite frankly, you just don't know how impacted that'll be as we start, what is the beginning of this restart process. Right. So I think we'll be better sense here as we get the next quarter or two under our belt moving forward, then we do sitting here today. On the overall market growth dynamics, what we always say is there's a lot of different scenarios we run to come, whether it's with respect to our market growth forecast or our guidance in general and they have different numbers underneath them with respect to the drivers as you're asking about right, whether that's new doctor growth or same-store sales. You'll recall that in 2019 what I said was of the growth that we saw a higher percentage of that came from same-store sales utilization, if you will, then new doctor ads, because we have been focused on that conversion and our sales force, we're spending a lot of time with existing accounts and you also recall that when we talked about that dynamic in the context of 2020, we expected a shift back. We didn't know how far back with something a little bit more normal where the new doctor initiatives, that you will, will be driving a bigger chunk of that market growth then, then the same-store sales initiatives.

Jon Block

Analyst

To push you a little bit there. If I said going into 2020 pre-COVID, new docs could have been 300 or 400 basis points out of the 1,200 in market growth you would say right ballpark or any response to those metrics?

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

I'd probably just say I wouldn't get that granular especially in a time like this.

Jon Block

Analyst

Okay. And then, second question; quickly Chris, you talked about ongoing competitive environment some, some moving parts with some of the players. I'm just curious in the fourth quarter, I don't think there was anything realized from price, Joe you said it was largely volume base, can you just update us on the pricing environment for MIGS and if that stable any pressure, as we currently sit here to that. Thanks guys.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Yes, I would, let me just quickly. This is Joe. I mean that's from a pricing environment, everything remains stable in the first quarter, whether it was US glaucoma or international glaucoma our pricing remained stable relative to the prior periods. We saw a little bit of continued strength and price around the corneal health business, but that's pretty much related to the continued improvements around reimbursement dynamics that Tom mentioned. I mean, we start to see that pass-through in terms of realized ASP on the Photrexa solution.

Jon Block

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Ravi Misra of Berenberg. Your line is open.

Ravi Misra

Analyst

Hi, thanks a lot for taking the question. I hope you all doing okay. Just wanted -- competition, again I can start with that. Can you give us an update on the litigation set -- between you and Ivantis it seems like in the last few days, there were some developments coming out of the district court there.

Tom Burns

Analyst

Yes. Ravi, hi, this is Tom. And so happy to do so. The trial as you know, is scheduled to begin on or around July 28 of this year. And as you know between now on the trial is really customary for both parties to follow a variety of promotions and some of those motions were heard on Friday, May 1 and with the tentative ruling that came out, we are quite pleased with how all those were disposed off. We remain confident in our position. We know that currently in Orange County, the courts are close through mid-May and there'll be prioritizing criminal cases once they reopen. But, having said that, we are prepared and confident to go to trial on or around July 28. And so that's kind of where we are at this stage.

Ravi Misra

Analyst

Great. And then if I can ask a little bit. My follow-ups on the COVID impact that you cited, [indiscernible] two-thirds of that was in the US glaucoma, should we think about the remainder with Avedro or international. How about that split and then one on the pipeline with iDose TR. I understand that you're saying that there is going to be a pause and new patients. But how many patients did you have enrolled so far and kind of, are you still going to be taking has the follow up. They're going, kind of, what, can you talk about with the latest developments on the longer-term data that you're trying to develop around that platform, which is very kind.

Tom Burns

Analyst

In order to take to first part of this question first, Ravi. And so, just to talk about iDose we were rapidly progressing to enrollment patient trial enrollment completion in the latter part of this year and that met more than met our target expectation. And as you know there. This is temporary pause and disruption and what we're trying to balance now is to figure out how that will the interplay between the back load of proceed pent-up demand will play against the enrollment of new patients going forward. I am encouraged with how with our clinical investigators going forward and some of the early translation and what that meant in terms of reigniting the trial. We continue to be very, very encouraged. When we look at our Phase IIb data and how that continues -- to come forth as we look at continue to look at data beyond two years and we continue to be terribly excited about the potential of this product in the marketplace. And so there will be some disruption. Clearly, there'll be some delay and clinical trial enrollment from our initial expectations. But we'll keep the investment community adequately informed as we discover more in the coming months.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

And then Ravi, I'll take the first part of your question and maybe kind of go to the punch line around each of our businesses, starting with corneal health. I think in a normalized environment, we probably would have seen something that was in that neighborhood of $12.5 million to $13 million of sales versus the 11.2 [ph] as obviously factoring in the COVID-19 as well as a little bit of the integration-related impact in the quarter. On international glaucoma on a constant currency basis I think asset COVID we probably would have landed somewhere in the $13 million to $13.5 million. So you can take that as being a $1 million $1.5 impact from COVID-19 in that international glaucoma business. And then in the domestic glaucoma business there is really the two pieces we talked about the more than two-thirds impact from COVID-19 you can sort of translate into that, call it $6.5 million ballpark, and I think it's also worth adding in there that from an overall standpoint. We estimate that the impact from we'll call it the late 2019 promotional activities in the near-term impact of our integration activities. It was probably somewhere between $5 million and $6 million in the quarter above and beyond that COVID-19 number.

Ravi Misra

Analyst

Great. I appreciate the detail. And then just maybe one last one to piggyback off of John's question on Doc training, can you talk about how you're other sustaining or maintaining some of these protocols by either telemedicine training environment or is there anything kind of from a regulatory perspective that's allowing you to kind of maintain contact for the doctors to diagnose patients. Through that arena that you guys are -- in any color there would be great. Thank you very much.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Yes, so on the trading side of things, you may recall that our protocol is for the physician to do an online training course in, I think there are seven modules involved when they do that. So that's continuing. Then part two and part three are what may be a challenge moving forward, which is to do a wet lab, the night before dry lab typically done in the --, we're still going to be able to do that in many cases and some, we may not be able to and we will find alternative methods of doing that. And then finally, is the processing piece and in some cases of the rests are already in surgery, in some cases, that's going to be restricted. So we have come up with some virtual ways to approach that whether is done virtually before or after or even in some cases, I might be done during. So we're working through those is, we're just getting up and started. We'll see how those goes how that goes, but we have some other ideas as well, but we're not restricted from a regulatory standpoint in that regard.

Operator

Operator

And our next question from the line of Ryan Zimmerman of BTIG. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this is Brian [ph] on for Ryan. Thank you for taking the questions. So I just want to ask a little bit about the Avedro business for a second, the tripling in the number of capital placements, Joe. Can you just talk about how that business model has changed, and if you expect that to normalize maybe there was some demand some Doc at the ready who were looking for maybe a least type arrangement, I'm just kind of curious kind of how to think about that business going forward?

Chris Calcaterra

Analyst

Hey Brian, this is Chris, early on for the last couple of quarters, we talked about capital equipment not being impediment to the sale and so we've have come up with a variety of different ways to approach the placement of the capital. I think that had a lot to do with it. I'd also say the fact that we've got the glaucoma team involved, 60 plus people also talking about -- the idling procedure in the benefits and the virtues of it. And so there's more touch points. I think the execution has been superlative. I think that this is a good indication that A was a good acquisition for us and B that the ideas and strategies and that we put in place in the execution are bearing out. So I'm quite happy with what took place in the first quarter and hopeful that, that will continue throughout the year.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

And I think it's a little bit probably early for us to call a trend off of one quarter. Right. Especially one quarter in which then the operate in this disruptive environment. So while we continue to watch that similar to what we were just talking about it length to run the new doctor training dynamics. We also expect some disruption headwinds in terms of new site installations, if you will, or new starts within the corneal health businesses as folks get back up and running here in the post-COVID year.

Tom Burns

Analyst

And I'm just going to reiterate how pleased with the overall integration, we look at what we've accomplished from the corporate milestones, commercial strategies and achieving the court their cost synergy goals. I think those have been prolific and I think when we look at what's happening commercially, we're just starting to unlock the potential and that's why I've given Chris approval to increase the size of the sales force, you might have noticed the sales force on the cornea house sales has gone up over 30% since we acquired Avedro. So you can see it's a testament to how we feel, how bullish we are, and -- how we are currently viewing the early stages of this acquisition.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful, Tom. I appreciate that. The timing on MicroShunt, I think we are currently thinking about it later this year kind of year-end. I just want to confirm that's still your guys thinking in terms of potential approval?

Tom Burns

Analyst

Yes, happy to address that. Brian, I think it's probably fair to say that Santen has taken the position that they expect to have approval of their MicroShunt in the fiscal year 2020, so that were placed by the end of March 2021. So that, that probably gives you a better indication of where they are at. And as you can expect, given the COVID-19 disruptions, they haven't filed their PMA submission although initial target was to give filed in the first quarter, but they do have a conference call, our earnings call that will occur next week, will both the listening into see exactly where they are and we're hopeful they'll be filing that PMA in very, very short order.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.

Tom Burns

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Brain.

Operator

Operator

And our next question from the line of Anthony Petrone of Jefferies. Your line is open.

Anthony Petrone

Analyst

Hi, thanks and hope everyone is doing well and staying healthy. Maybe just a follow-up to pressure flow would be iStent infinite just the timing there. I think we had late '21. So I'm just trying to get a sense of iStent infinite and really just I guess more broadly, the timing for the cataract, standalone label with those two solutions. And then the second question would be just on COVID impacts to the iStent, iStent inject business, how much of the iStent overall users are actually dark at this point versus just those seen reduced volumes.

Tom Burns

Analyst

So, I'll be happy to take the first part of the question again. I'm going to reiterate that given Santen's expectation would be looking for this standalone capstone product the MicroShunt from Santen to be available by the end of the first quarter of this coming year and we look at iStent infinite as we've said before, we completed enrollment October of last year. We will follow these patients for the year will lockdown the database, we'll be filing for that product and we expect to have commercial approval late in 2021. So those estimates have been confirmed and validated and we feel good about our position there. Chris?

Chris Calcaterra

Analyst

Yes, it's Joe, on the COVID impacts, I mean obviously you expect it's very dependent upon the individual geographies and we're in the early days here within the US. It obviously matters most. You can watch the news flow and sort of guess where some of the early ordering activity is coming from and states like Texas and Arizona. But even in looking at that. It's still feels like it's the very early days in terms of the number of customers that are ordering versus what we typically see. So I think we're still I can't say whose dark versus active, but what I can tell you is we're still in the very, very early days in terms of the restart activity broadly speaking.

Anthony Petrone

Analyst

Helpful. Thanks.

Joe Gilliam

Analyst

Thanks, Anthony.

Operator

Operator

And I turn the call back to the presenters for their closing remarks.

Tom Burns

Analyst

Okay. Well, thank you so much. And thank you all for your time and attention today. We hope that everyone is staying safe, and thank you for your continued interest in Glaukos. Good day.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.