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Q3 2011 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 17, 2011

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. Welcome to GameStop Corp.'s Third Quarter 2011 Earnings Call. Today's call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I'd like to remind you that this call is being covered by the Safe Harbor disclosures contained in GameStop's public documents and the property of GameStop. It is not for a rebroadcast or the use by any other party without prior written consent of GameStop. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Mr. Paul Raines, CEO of GameStop Corp. Please go ahead, sir.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning. Welcome to GameStop's third quarter earnings call. Thank you for joining us. Before we get started, I want to thank our team of over 50,000 associates worldwide for another quarter of giving power to the players. GameStop associates, true to our values and with a passion for gaming, delight customers in 17 countries around the world with the absolute best service, assortment, value and digital offering. The third quarter continues the transformation of GameStop into a hybrid retailer of physical and digital gaming and electronics products. Our strategic plan developed over the last 3 years is on track and providing tangible results, and our investments in digital businesses continue in a disciplined way. As you read in our release, we achieved our earnings forecast although the quarter presented some challenges in top line due to a cash-strapped consumer that could not afford all the good titles released during the quarter. Comps in the United States was slightly positive and negative 2.2% in our international market. Globally, new software grew 4.8%, driven by 3 titles that sold over 1 million units in the first week of their release. Meanwhile, our digital businesses are significantly contributing to our gross margin expansion. Given the amount of strong titles available in holiday 2011, it is clear to us that consumers will make choices on which titles to purchase among the unprecedented quality of offering. At the same time, hardware was flat year-over-year, reflecting some strength in Sony and continued weakness in handheld. As we get through a strong launch schedule and into the holiday shopping season, we believe that our ability to place currency in consumers' hands through our buy-sell-trade model is the most effective way to support consumers. If you are a PowerUp Rewards member, you know already…

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

Thank you, Paul. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to begin my remarks today with an update on our capital allocation program. During the third quarter, we repurchased 1,925,000 shares of GameStop stock at an average price of $22.09 for a total of $42.5 million. We also retired $125 million of our senior notes. We ended the quarter with $442 million in cash, up $260 million from last year. As we indicated in the earnings release, our Board of Directors authorized a new $500 million stock and debt buyback plan. This new authorization replaces the $180 million remaining on the previous authorization and allows us to continue to buy back our shares over the next 12 months. In addition, we have called the remaining $125 million in senior notes, and when they are retired in December, GameStop will be debt-free. As Paul mentioned, since January 2010, our stock and debt buyback have totaled just under $1 billion. This represents approximately 86% of our free cash flow in the last 24 months. Now I'll recap our third quarter financial results. Total sales were $1.95 billion, an increase of 2.5% compared to the third quarter of 2010. There were a number of very strong new titles released in the quarter. We had 3 titles sell in excess of 1 million units domestically, and software sales grew 4.8% during the quarter. However, a few of the new releases fell short of our expectations, and as a result, total company comparable store sales were down 0.6% with plus 0.2% in the U.S. and negative 2.2% internationally. Given concerns about Europe involving economic turmoil and competitor results, I want to take a moment to point out that our year-to-date comps in Europe are slightly positive. Pre-owned sales during the quarter grew 3.1%. As we expected, consumer…

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

Thanks, Rob, and good morning, everyone. As mentioned earlier, we had expectations for stronger sales due to the great title lineup and record reservations. But we found that consumers were unable to fund the products that they wanted as these strong titles rolled out week after week. As we head into the fourth quarter, we are pleased with the performance of Activision's Call of Duty, Modern Warcraft 3, Bethesda's The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed Revelations, THQ's Saints Row 3 and Microsoft's Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, all of which met our very high expectations. Recent launches are strong and we are not seeing new titles falling off. We are outpacing market growth on each of these launches and have driven over 1/2 of the total U.S. growth that these titles have experienced. We have equally high expectations for several strong titles yet to release, including EA's Star Wars: The Old Republic and Nintendo's Mario Kart 7 and the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. From a digital perspective, we exceeded our expectations as we continue the fast paced growth in all of our digital initiatives. Total digital revenue grew 59% in the third quarter, with console digital growing 63% and PC digital growing 51%. We have grown digital revenue 61% year-to-date and are on schedule to exceed our $450 million annual digital revenue goal. With the strength of 14.5 million PowerUp Rewards members, the support of our publishing partners, making digital content available as a simple gifting solution and the multichannel integration of our digital strategy, we are very excited to see the growth that we will garner during the holiday season. By integrating downloadable content into our presell programs on major title launches, we are driving significant incremental purchase of downloadable content. We are averaging double-digit attach of…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question today from Bill Armstrong with CL King & Associates. William R. Armstrong - CL King & Associates, Inc.: The other category, gross margin up 700 basis points. You mentioned -- is digital just in the other category? Do you have certain digital revenues in the software category as well? How should we think about that?

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

This is Rob. Digital is just in the other category. William R. Armstrong - CL King & Associates, Inc.: And is that -- are we looking at the 100% margin where you're basically getting a commission on these sales? Is that how we should think about that?

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

Well, that is a component of what's in that other category. There are a lot of things going on in the digital margin world. We have various digital offerings and the margin characteristics of them are somewhat different. Some of them are the 100% that you described. William R. Armstrong - CL King & Associates, Inc.: Okay, so digital sales were obviously up very strongly, but the overall other category actually was down 4%. What was the offset there? What declined in the other category?

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

It's principally boxed PC products. There were a couple of strong titles in the third quarter of last year selling PC. William R. Armstrong - CL King & Associates, Inc.: Okay. Used game margin is down 140 bps. Was that just your efforts to acquire more product?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Yes, Bill, this is Paul. We are using the PowerUp program pretty extensively in the pre-owned business in 2 ways: One is to market and sell pre-owned games as we've described before. The other is to bring in inventory and maximize trade. So a lot of our activity in the quarter was, in anticipation of holiday, was in unique promotions to consumers, sort of individualized promotions to drive trades on popular games and stores. So fair to say, Rob, you want to add anything to that?

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

I think that covers it well. William R. Armstrong - CL King & Associates, Inc.: Okay, one last question. On your iDevice program, obviously, you've got a very rapid product cycle in iDevices. And I guess the question is who are you going to sell 3- or 4-year-old iDevices to? And how do you address the risk of product obsolescence?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Great question, Bill. It's interesting, as we've gotten into the end of this, there is tremendous consumer demand. If you look at video game consoles, one of the things GameStop has learned through the years is the pre-owned business is not a substitute for the new business. It actually is a market-expanding business because if you look at our pre-owned consoles, we are hitting newer price points and lower price points than on the new. If you put this around iDevices, there's a large segment of consumers who don't have access to a new iDevice. And so the people who are buying them -- to answer your first piece of your question, the people who are buying those older devices are the aspirational consumer who is looking for something, maybe can't afford a new phone, et cetera, or wants to replace another branded phone with an iDevice. That's one point. The other point is our velocity, thanks to our refurbishment center and our ability to understand how fast these devices can turn. We are -- we feel pretty confident around the velocity we can turn this product. And of course, we're looking forward around upgrade cycles and everything else that we hear about and read. But you'll see that our ability to marry these upgrade cycles to new tablets, new consoles, new software launches will become more and more efficient. So we don't have a lot of heartburn around that. William R. Armstrong - CL King & Associates, Inc.: Okay, and I think you said before you're going to be selling these -- you're now selling them about in about 200 stores. When will you roll it out through the entire chain?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Well, we're in 260 stores and we're on our website. And really the governor on that is inventory. If you look at other players in this industry, it's all about the inventory. So as that builds, you'll see us move to more stores. We're learning a lot about where, fair to say, Tony, where people shop. We have certain tourist markets, for example where we get a lot of international tourists who have tremendous appetite for these devices, so we're learning a lot about where, but you'll see us expanding the footprint version.

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

And this is also a of very strong seller on GameStop.com.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

It's very strong on GameStop.com, that's right.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go next to Gary Balter with Credit Suisse. Seth Basham - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: It's Seth and Gary. A couple of quick questions. First a question on the holiday. We're starting to see some aggressive discounts out there on some new titles and some console bundles. How are you thinking about the promotional environment this year? And what are some of the things you're doing to leverage PowerUp to get that traffic this holiday?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

A couple of things I would point out. I'll start it off and then Tony has probably some thoughts on it as well. The first point we would make is if you look at last year, one of the things we learned was we faced an extreme discount environment, but we were able to gain share through the holiday. If you recall, it was the first holiday we had gained share in multiple years. I don't remember if it was 6 or 7. Usually, we gain share through the year and then in holiday, when other players jump in and discount, we tended to lose share. Last year, we gained share. What we learned last year was that our strategy around leveraging buy-sell-trade with PowerUp is a pretty powerful tool. We will, of course, be in the market with print, FSIs and we'll do some electronic media. But more and more we see the effectiveness of our marketing around individualized offers to PowerUp. So this year -- last year, I think, guys, we were in the market with 4 million to 5 million PowerUp members, I think, at holiday. This year, we are at 14.5 million and counting. So the first point, Seth, is the power of the program is significantly enhanced through greater membership. Many of those already have a year under their belt. The second point is, is that the types of things you'll see us do is identifying individual consumer's buying behaviors. If you buy X game, there's DLC available or add-on for it. Or if you have Y game, there's a similar sports genre title that you may like and you'll see us doing individual offers around that. You'll also see us do some things around exclusivity of certain times and places when you can shop, but all of that's going to be happening on an individualized, personalized basis for competitive reasons and what we're finding is consumers react far more favorably. Tony, maybe you want to talk about how you're going to use this on new software?

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. And I think, Seth, what we're going to see is that there will be some deep discounts and obviously most of the FSIs are already out there so you can see where it's taking place. We do believe that just like last year, these will be very deep for a very short amount of time and then they'll be pulled back. And what we believe is that the consumer is looking for ways to fund a lot of great product. And to be quite honest, we believe that this great product is worth a tremendous value. So we think that our trade program, buy-sell-trade program, is one of the best the things that we can execute during the holiday season and now you add iDevices to that mix, so you can think about ways that we are going to be using PowerUp Rewards to offer some very strong incentives to our PowerUp Rewards members including the use of trading in their iDevices to purchase a lot of these games. So to us, it's all about giving the consumer a way to be able to fund the games that they want to buy. We believe there are some great titles out there that are worth the amount of money that folks are -- the price that they’re offer at. You can also see on our FSI that we have some very strong discounts for Black Friday as well. But our main emphasis is going to be making sure that the consumers have the funds available so that they can buy the games that they want. Gary Balter - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: Okay. This is Gary. Can I just follow up on you have a competitor in Europe and you mentioned that your European businesses is positive. Who said that one of the bigger problems they're facing right now is that after the title release, they sell it and the drop-off is much greater. Could you talk about what you're seeing if you're seeing -- is that similar trend? Because you mentioned that these -- you mentioned some of the new titles in November and how strong they are, but have they been strong initially and then a quicker drop-off? Or are you seeing some continuity in it?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Gary, there's a lot there. I would say, one -- a couple of things and I'll let Rob comment on the numbers and what he's seeing. We don't agree with that view. We have seen titles sell sustainably well that have launched in the third quarter through the fourth. We do not share that point of view around the drop-off. Remember also when you have these many titles hitting all at once, there is going to be some consumers who can't buy them all in the first day and they're going to come back and shop. The other side is we have a very strong trade system that drives currency for people. I mean our value proposition is unrivaled by any competitor anywhere. I mean the last year we put over $1 billion of trade credits in people's hands. So we think that's what's sustaining us. Rob, any color you want to give on individual sort of sales rates or...

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

Yes, I guess I would say that our experience was in the third quarter with the title launches, the initial sell-through did not meet our expectation. That is not the case with the fourth quarter titles. As Tony has said, they have met our very high expectations. Gary Balter - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division: And the ones like we're seeing, as Seth mentioned, we're starting to see these ads that are discounting some of these titles significantly. Are they pass -- are they able to do that under the map rules?

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

Yes. They are able to do that under the map rules on the game so far that we've seen in the FSIs, so we have seen that. Gary, one other thing that I might add that is also extending the game play, given our extensive focus on selling downloadable content in our stores, I think we've mentioned earlier that over half of the sales of DLC that take place in our stores actually have a physical game attached to it. So what we are seeing is that DLC is coming out on a monthly basis or on a quarterly basis on these games, that's actually prolonging and extending the tail on new games as people are coming in, excited about the DLC and are actually buying the game when they hear about the DLC.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

The other point, Gary, as you know, on the discount side, what we've learned in previous cycles of this is, particularly on software, is there's frequently a lot of media buy that goes into this, but there's not as frequently depth of inventory. And of course, we have to be deep on inventory, and we are deep. We've seen a lot of these promotions will be very short-lived as consumers flock, take all the markdowns and then they're out of stock and we're right back into the environment we're in. So we're looking hard at both what the markdown activity is but also how much inventory are people buying.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from David Magee with SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

David G. Magee - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

A couple of questions. One is when you talked about the title release schedule being almost too concentrated and too good in the third quarter and having some impact in terms of what people could afford, but then in November it seems to be better in that regard. Could you just sort of tell us why that's -- maybe you'd gotten better here in recent weeks with more recent titles than it was last quarter?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

Well, hey, David, I think a couple of things we look hard at is the percent of trade credit supplied to new games, et cetera. We're doing a lot of analysis. Are some games getting more trades against them than others? There is some built-up expectation around certainty key titles where we think some consumers -- we do a lot of consumer work. Some consumers were waiting on A title or B title. We also, of course, know there's varying degrees of quality of titles out there and some genres and some specific titles have more demand than others. I think it's early yet, right, guys, to tell, Tony?

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

Yes, I think it is. I'm not exactly sure why things have opened up. We had strong reservation performance. I don't think it's ironic that we did really ramp up our iDevice program, which has accelerated very quickly and thrown more currency into the equation as well. But I do think that there were great partnerships, great marketing campaigns driven on the launches that have taken place recently. But we had high expectations for many titles and they have met those in the November launches.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

Yes, the real analysis now is, for us, as we look forward through holiday, you have a bunch of great quality content out there and how many consumers are going to come back and look for those as maybe gift items versus buying them at launch, which is what we traditionally see. So that's where a lot of the work we're doing, trying to understand these early strength signals we're seeing in November.

David G. Magee - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

And just a follow-up, in the past, it seems like there's been sort of a lot of strength in November or around Black Friday and then maybe it softens a bit in the first half of December. You mentioned that you can keep the PowerUp members more engaged this year just by the sheer numbers and doing what you did last year. Is there a way you can keep this for the non-bulletin members also engaged in the first half of next month than maybe than in the past?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst · SunTrust Robinson Humphrey.

I think what we're learning and if you listen to most retailers, what we're learning is Black Friday is a big event, brings people in. Then dotcom becomes a very significant channel through the next 2 to 3 weeks. So we had huge growth last year. If you recall, we comped over 100% in dotcom. We have built out significant capacity there and expect dotcom to be strong again. It gives us a real good gauge around traffic. And then you will see us do some very interesting things around PowerUp in those gaps where we know folks are starting to build their Christmas shopping list and so forth. PowerUp member, by the way, is very much a multichannel shopper. They'll shop us in-store, online. They'll hold online, pick up in store. They'll do a variety of ways and we'll see their traffic in multiple channels.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Mark-Andre Saucier-Nadeau with Goldman Sachs.

Mark-Andre Saucier-Nadeau - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

First one was about the drivers of the international acceleration, if you could give us all the details. It seemed that year-to-date that 2Q Europe was trending down quite a bit and now it's up so that means that last quarter it really accelerated a lot. So I was wondering if you could give us some color there on the drivers.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Yes, maybe, Mike, you want to start that? Mike Mauler is here as well.

Michael K. Mauler

Analyst

Sure. Obviously, there is an economic headwind in Europe and we've really been focused in 2 areas and it goes back in 2010 where we've decided really to focus on the basic: improving inventory managements, optimizing our buy-sell-trade model, driving reservations and rolling out best practices. And that combined with our activities in 2011 where we've been focused on cost control, we've closed 38 underperforming stores, we've completed headcount reductions in several markets and we're in the process of consolidating some operations. And so I think we put those 2 things together and what we've seen is some revenue growth up in Europe, a decrease in expenses and we've really done a good job, I think, at taking market share in most markets.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Yes, Mark -- Mark-Andre, Mike and I were in June in France and Italy and Rob and Tony have recently been in Europe with Mike. I think if you look at our French, Italian, Nordic, Irish businesses where we have pretty dominant share, our ability to bring all of those things you've heard us talk about, RSV, loyalty programs, DLC, all those things we think are starting to come to bear and make us very different in those markets and that's, we believe, what's translating into share gains. Like everyone else, we watch the macro closely, plenty of headlines, et cetera. But our activity there, I think, fair to say, Mike, is reflecting a little bit of what we've been able to do with share growth in the U.S.

Michael K. Mauler

Analyst

Yes, I think that's true.

Mark-Andre Saucier-Nadeau - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Great. One more in terms of share gains and when you look at new software, you clearly gain a lot of share in the third quarter. I was just wondering are you seeing any impact from your competitors as they're ramping up preorders, something they had not really done before. Or is that something -- in the same way that you're looking at what they're doing in used, maybe you can talk about what you're seeing in terms of what they're doing on preorders?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Well, we see that. We see lots of competitor initiatives around preorders. We see the tremendous media buys that go on. But we also hear the volumes of what's happening on preorder, and I think what's often lost is the scale of what we do. And if you recall, was it the first quarter, Rob, we gave out our number on trades? We did $30 million trades in the first quarter. Our competitor is trying to do $1 million and some for the year as a target. So the scale of what we do is often lost. So yes, we see competitors' driving reserves. It's interesting, but what I think we are able to do uniquely is people don't understand what really drives reserves, which is the complete ecosystem of unique content, differentiated midnight launches, PowerUp points, trade credits against reserves, all of that, Mark, we monitor and do channel checks. We don't see great execution in the competitors on that.

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

And I would say that their attempt to drive reservation is not a recent attempt. They've been doing this for years. So I don't think there's been a whole lot of change in their approach in the last few years.

Mark-Andre Saucier-Nadeau - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Okay, and if I may, just one last one, a quick one, on used. As we go into the fourth -- as we're in the fourth quarter, just wondering if you could talk about in the past year, you talked about recovering all of the margin hit from last fourth quarter and I was just wondering now with the investment in the trade, is that -- are we supposed to expect the same thing? Or should we think more as maybe margins today doesn't recover all of what it's lost last year and maybe sales pick up because of the inventory that you got this quarter? That'd be great.

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

I think you can expect the used margins for the fourth quarter to get back into that normal 46% to 49% range that we typically have. Last year, fourth quarter being an anomaly.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

We know that pre-owned games are a great gifting item. I mean that's been proven several times. Given the quality of the release cycle, we know that we launched pre-owned games under 3s this year so...

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Anthony Chukumba with BB&T Capital Markets. Anthony C. Chukumba - BB&T Capital Markets, Research Division: I had a question and maybe this is getting a little bit ahead of ourselves given the fact that we do have the crucial holiday selling season coming up, but just wanted to get your initial thoughts on 2012. Obviously, we'll have the Wii U come out, the Sony Vita. It looks like Grand Theft Auto V will finally come out next year. So just wanted to get kind of your high-level initial thoughts on 2012.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Anthony, I'll let Rob give you maybe sort of his thinking around -- we're spending a lot of time modeling right now. We've got a pretty rich market model. There's lots of things going on there. We are excited about the Wii U, although we know Nintendo will not really be promoting that until we get through holiday because we've got to focus on this year, but Wii U going to be, we believe, a very exciting product than what we've seen. Vita looks dynamite in the demos and we're eager to see how that product plays out in the handheld market that, as you know, has been under pressure. We're also going doing quite a bit of market modeling around tablets and iDevices. Those are very large pools of, on one hand, a pre-owned inventory in homes, and on the other hand, emerging electronic categories that gaming will be a huge piece of. So that's another part of it. And then, Rob, maybe you want share some of your thoughts around the new software on console side, which...

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

Well, yes, there's not much to add there. I would just say that it's certainly early for us to talk about what GameStop sees for itself in 2012. And, frankly, we need to see how this holiday comes in for the video game business before we talk about where we see the market in 2012.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

But if you recall, we've said previously in our market model, of course, we see flattish physical console business extending through 2014 with significant double-digit growth around console DLC. And I would say that, with a lot of confidence, we think DLC continues to grow. Every publisher, fair to say, Tony, has big, aggressive plans around DLC.

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

Right in there. We do see DLC as a continuing very, very strong growth vehicle.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

And that's one -- DLC is an interesting one because our retail share of DLC is extremely dominant. We don't have perfect data on that, but the data we do have says we have a very unique defensible mechanism through the digital locker of PowerUp Rewards members. So our modeling around DLC is really important one and it's one that publishers really like the profit characteristics of for themselves. Fair to say, Tony?

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

Yes, absolutely.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

DLC is a great product for them and a great product for us.

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

And they like the discovery and the ability to fund it with unique currency in our stores, so all of those are working together.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

So we'll be spending a lot of time on that piece of the model.

Operator

Operator

We'll go first to James Hardiman with Longbow research.

James Hardiman - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

I wanted to follow up on a question earlier in the call surrounding the other category. It seems to be a pretty big X factor here. You mentioned that all of the digital numbers are in there. Obviously, you've seen exponential growth in digital. But that I think you said that it was PC games that are in there that were down pretty dramatically year-over-year. I guess as I look forward -- and maybe if that's the case, maybe it was lapping the StarCraft release from last year, which should actually make sense. But if I look forward, how should I think about that other business? I mean, obviously, digital should continue to grow due to comparisons and the other piece of other get any easier here in the fourth quarter in terms of what you're selling and were some of the add-ons in terms of Kinect and MOVE last year was that all on the hardware side or does that show up as a difficult comparison for other in the fourth quarter?

Robert A. Lloyd

Analyst

Let me first start by saying with respect to the PC software side of things, a year ago, we were not extensively in the PC download business. So what we sold in terms of PC was boxed product. We had a World of Warcraft launch in December, so I think that you'll see comparisons to that when the numbers come out at the end of the fourth quarter. And that will drive some of the movement in the other category. The MOVE accessories were in the other category last year and are still this year. The Kinect hardware, however, was in hardware for GameStop.

James Hardiman - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Okay, that's very helpful. And just real quick, I was wondering if you could comment -- you talked about some games did really well for you in the third quarter. Some games fell short of expectations. Can you give us any color on what games sort of did great and which games were maybe a little bit short of your expectations?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Probably early, James, to do that. We like to let the publishers make their own commentary. But I think you would say that the ones that we call out as million unit sellers, those are big blockbuster titles and I think we'll -- fair to say, Tony, we'll defer to the publishers?

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

Yes, fair to say. And I think, yes, I'd rather address that comment after the publishers have had a chance to.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

We like to let them brag on their intellectual property before we do. But certainly, I think it is fair to say I mean for the bear case that says the console business is disappearing, you can't help but look at what's happening out there right now with these big blockbuster titles and go, wow, there is a tremendous market for high-quality, big-name properties, so ...

Operator

Operator

Our last question today will be from Mike Hickey with National Alliance.

Michael Hickey - National Alliance Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

I've been a member now for over a year, and you talked about lapping into this holiday with a much larger bases of members. Can you talk about what you've seen in terms of member behavior, those of us that have been around for more than a year? Are you seeing more trade-ins, are you seeing more buys? Just curious if you can provide any thoughts there?

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

Absolutely. Hey, Mike, boy, thank you for being a member. I've got to go back and ask the team, we've got to send Mike some special promotional activity. Well, as I shared on the remarks earlier, there's some very interesting numbers that are coming out. As I've said members who overlap into a 1 year, we now have measurement and visibility to their share of wallet, their spend, their frequency of visit. I mentioned earlier that a Pro member who's been with us the year shops us once every 21 days, which is becoming a very meaningful metric. Your frequency of shop for us is becoming a big deal because we know if we can inspire one more visit through a midnight launch, through an early visit, et cetera, it could be very interesting. We also know that member – pre-owned penetration is higher for members than nonmembers. And in fact, it's 3 points higher and getting higher. We've also shared with you before member trade penetration is significantly higher than nonmember. I think other than that, for competitive reasons, we've got to be careful with how much we talk about it, but I think you can expect that in future calls and particularly in the new year, we'll be talking a lot about spending and share of wallet because the whole goal of this program, I will remind everyone, is to drive share of wallet in a mass price category were everyone has the same retail price.

Michael Hickey - National Alliance Capital Markets, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And then on the PC download, it looks like when you think about the build in 2014 and your $1.5 billion guidance, it looks like PC download is kind of the critical inflection point in your growth medium term to get to that goal. And it seems to have the stranglehold in terms of market share and I realize that you guys have integrated Impulse into your GameStop.com e-commerce site. It looks phenomenal, but I'm just curious if you could share with us kind of key drivers to breaking down the market share stranglehold that team has.

Tony D. Bartel

Analyst

Well, I think the key for our digital strategy is that's one part of it and I think we have a comprehensive digital strategy that we're going to build a platform like we've talked about in the past where when gamers want the game and on whatever platform they want the game, we are going to lead them there. So this is just one part of our digital strategy to get us there along with downloadable content, along with the plays we've made in the mobile space and the casual browser space. We've made several plays there, so there's one of them. I think if you look at how we've leveraged PowerUp Rewards, how we've leveraged our relationship with the publishing community, I think you can begin to get a grasp of how we plan on leveraging our new asset and really growing Impulse so that it is a very strong competitor in this space. So it's part of a broader digital strategy that we have. It is, like you say, a very important part. And as we talked about, we do plan on continuing to roll out improvements to it, some as early as first half of next year. So I think that you'll see those plans evolve and it's just a broader part of a larger digital strategy to allow people to game anytime, anywhere and on any device.

J. Paul Raines

Analyst

There's a lot of appetite when we meet with publishers, there's a lot of appetite for broadening the channels for distribution of PC downloads. And if you can add trade credits and PowerUp Rewards points to that, we get a lot of welcome reception on that with publishers, so you'll see more from that -- more from us on that, okay? With that, we will wrap up the call. We want to thank all of you for listening in and on the earnings call and look forward to talking to you again in the New Year. We are looking forward to a tremendous holiday season. I hope that all of you are PowerUp Rewards members so I can invite you in personally with unique promotions tailored to your taste level and hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving next week. Thank you, very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This will conclude today's conference call.