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Genie Energy Ltd. (GNE)

Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 6, 2021

$14.12

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to Genie Energy's Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] On this morning's call, Michael Stein, Genie Energy's Chief Executive Officer and Avi Goldin, Genie Energy's Chief Financial Officer, will discuss operational and financial results for the 3-month period ended September 30, 2021. Any forward-looking statements made during this conference call, either in the prepared remarks or in the Q&A session, whether general or specific in nature, are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those which the company anticipates. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, specific risks and uncertainties discussed in the reports that Genie Energy files periodically with the SEC. Genie Energy assumes no obligation, either to update any forward-looking statements that they have made or may make or to update the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those that they forecast. During the remarks, management may make reference to adjusted EBITDA, a non-GAAP measure. Management believes that Genie Energy's measure of adjusted EBITDA provides useful information to both management and investors that supplement Genie Energy's core operating results. The Genie Energy earnings release includes a reconciliation of consolidated adjusted EBITDA to its nearest comparable GAAP measures, consolidated net income and income from operations for all periods presented. In addition, adjusted EBITDA for applicable segments are reconciled to their respective segment's income from operations for all periods presented. The Genie Energy earnings release is posted on the Investor Relations page of the Genie Corporation website, genie.com, and has been filed on a Form 8-K with the SEC. After today's presentation by Genie Energy's management, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Michael Stein, Genie Energy's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, Mr. Stein.

Michael Stein

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to Genie Energy's Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. Today, we plan to start the call with an update on the Oriel spin-off transaction and our ongoing exit from the U.K. retail market and discuss how this impacts our growth strategy moving forward. I will also provide a review of our operational high-level financial results for the 3 months ended September 30, 2021. Avi Goldin, our Chief Financial Officer, will then provide a deeper dive into the quarter's financial results, and then we will be glad to take your questions. As we previously announced, our plans for an Oriel Energy equity offering spin-off during fiscal year 2021 were derailed by market conditions impacting our Orbit subsidiary in the U.K. This market has faced increasing challenges over the past 8 weeks, as the regulatory body in the U.K. decided not to raise price caps to keep up with significant spikes in wholesale energy costs. As a result, 19 energy supply companies have already filed for bankruptcy. In response to these factors, after the third quarter closed, we pivoted and began to work with the U.K. regulators on an orderly exit from this market. Talks are ongoing, and we anticipate providing an update when we have finalized an arrangement with the regulators. In Q3, Orbit's loss from operations increased from $4.2 million last year to $16.4 million this year due to asset write-downs and incremental bad debt expense of $10.5 million related to the planned exit from the U.K. market. On a go-forward basis, once we have agreement with the regulators, we will classify Orbit's operating results as discontinued operations. Regardless, we are no longer investing in this business and currently expect no material negative cash impact from its operations in future quarters. I want to be clear that…

Avi Goldin

Analyst

Thank you, Michael, and thanks to everyone on the call for joining us this morning. My remarks today cover our financial results for the 3 months ended September 30, 2021. Throughout my remarks, I compare the third quarter 2021 results to the third quarter of 2020, focusing on the year-over-year rather than the sequential comparisons, [nuisance] consideration the seasonal factors that are characteristic of our retail energy business. I'd also like to point out that there are some moving parts this quarter and make an apples-to-apples comparison somewhat challenging. For example, we acquired the part of Orbit Energy's equity that we didn't already own in the fourth quarter of 2020. So while our third quarter 2020 results were not consolidated into our financials, they were, in the third quarter of 2021 under Genie Retail International. On the flip side, we sold our Japanese operations in early Q2 2021, while in Q3 2020, a full quarter of Genie Japan revenue was recorded under GREI. And finally, we are assessing the impact of our planned exit from the U.K. market. I'll provide some color on these impacts throughout my part of this call. That said, results from this quarter were generally strong relative to last year. Consolidated revenue increased 18% to $113 million. The top line increase is generated mostly by GREI, where revenue increased to $25.5 million from $5.8 million in the year-ago quarter, mainly reflecting the consolidation of the results at o4 in the current period. For comparison, Orbit generated $15.1 million in revenue in the Q3 2020, which was not reflected in our reported revenue figures. Revenue at Genie Retail Energy, our domestic retail business, decreased 3% to $86 million, driven by a decline in both electricity meters served and consumption, while natural gas saw an increase in meters…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Aaron Shafter at Great Mountain Capital.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

Congratulations on some strong numbers. I do have some concerns, though, Avi answered some of them regarding Orbit in the situation in the U.K., but 2 other questions relating to that. One is that you mentioned that the regulators there were unwilling to raise the limit on rates given the extraordinary situation. And I'm wondering if this rule on rates and being basically a hard rate hard cap whether or not that existed before or after you purchased the outstanding amount of orbit that your former partners held?

Avi Goldin

Analyst

So the cap was instituted after we entered the market in 2017. It was instituted shortly after. And we were able to see decent margins subsequent to the price cap being instituted. So this is a situation that we could never possibly envisioned. And it's a situation where we believe it's kind of a force majeure kind of a situation that the -- unfortunately, the regulators are not inappropriately responding to.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

And I think Michael mentioned something about updating in the future, the situation in the U.K. Did I hear that correctly? And what type of update would it be?

Michael Stein

Analyst

It would be an update just on operationally, when and how we got out of -- we no longer had any customers to serve. And what the write-down associated if any more, would be as a result. Again, we don't believe there'll be any at negative cash impact but there may be similar write-downs of intangibles.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

Okay. And before this, your big surprise was early in the year, you had the once-in-100-year situation and a crazy weather in Texas. Is there any progress at all on getting any more relief from that?

Michael Stein

Analyst

Yes. So we -- I think Avi mentioned in his remarks, we got another -- you may recall last quarter, we announced that we got about $1.5 million of relief from the Texas government. This quarter, we announced that we got, I believe, the number was $1.9 million of relief Texas, and we continue to work with other industry representatives to try to get more

Avi Goldin

Analyst

And just to be clear, that the funds will flow through expected start at sort of the first half of 2022. So the order was formally approved and voted on. But the mechanism by which entities are going to receive their relief should kick in, in the first half of 2022.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

Okay. You noted in the release that you repurchased 230,000 shares of the Genie common at $1.4 million. So that roughly works out to $6.08 a share. Yesterday, the stock closed just below $5 a share, more than 20% that's -- that your purchase price was 20% higher. I'm wondering if you have plans to maybe increase buybacks given the -- would seem to you to be an attractive level for the shares.

Michael Stein

Analyst

We continue to have the authorization from the Board to do buybacks. And our position is to do it opportunistically when we think the share price is attractive. So I can't tell you exactly what we're going to do. But our strategy, our general feeling about it, is much the same.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

And related to that, obviously, recently, the stock has said the common has had a noted decline, but the preferred stock has had a noted increase. So it seems that investors in the preferred have confidence that you'll be able to continue paying the dividend on the preferred, but investors in the common are concerned about the company in general. How do you convince investors in the common looking at more like investors with the preferred?

Michael Stein

Analyst

I think we just -- we have to execute. We have to execute, catch a few breaks or not get hit by some of these events that on your normal circumstances seem very rare, I think, with a few quarters of execution. And some of this difficulty behind us, I think, hopefully, the market will react.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

Okay. And are there any other markets that you're in that have these type of hard cap on rates that the U.K. has?

Michael Stein

Analyst

No.

Aaron Shafter

Analyst

Can we assume that you don't plan on going into entering any markets that have a hard cap on rates?

Michael Stein

Analyst

We don’t know of any that we’re interested in going into right now. And as I said, in the U.K., they introduced it after we had already entered the market. It generally probably would have changed our attention about entering the market, but we had been operating for a few years. So we thought that the regulator was responsible enough with how they set that cap and would be responsible in a kind of a force majeure situation, but it seems like we are proven wrong in that regard.

Operator

Operator

Our next question today is coming from David Canam at Canam Wealth Management.

David Canam

Analyst

I'm going to keep it simple. I don't have a whole lot. But given -- in general, given your outlook on the business going forward, exiting U.K., the prospects for the remaining international Scandinavia, et cetera, you're going to be generating significant free cash flow. I appreciate the fact that you're buying back stock. What's your view on dividends at this time. Historically, the common has paid a dividend. Is the Board's appetite to further shrink the common share count first and then go back to dividends? Or is it something for discussion now?

Michael Stein

Analyst

So I think it's probably something that's going to come up, if I had to guess, after next quarter. We did not -- we have not discussed reinstituting the dividend yet. I think at the time when we suspended the dividend, I think we had indicated we wanted to take about a year to think about it, a few quarters at least. So we're still continuing to think about it.

David Canam

Analyst

Okay. I mean I appreciate the fact that the company is buying back stock. My personal opinion is at these levels, we're better off buying back as much stock as possible. But then once the stock recovers, paying dividends, which would ultimately be more for the remaining common shareholders given a shrunk in share count. So while I wish you much luck in the future, I hope you don't get hit by any of these crazy events anymore. Hopefully, it will be smooth sailing going forward. Good luck.

Avi Goldin

Analyst

Thank you.

Michael Stein

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This concludes our question-and-answer session and conference call. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.