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Genco Shipping & Trading Limited (GNK)

Q1 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, May 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Genco Shipping & Trading Limited First Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call and Presentation. Before we begin, please note that there will be a slide presentation accompanying today’s conference call. That presentation can be obtained from Genco’s website at www.gencoshipping.com. To inform everyone, today’s conference is being recorded and is now being webcast at the Company’s website www.gencoshipping.com. We will conduct a question-and-answer session after the opening remarks. Instructions will follow at that time. A replay of the conference will be accessible anytime during the next two weeks by dialing 888-203-1112 or 719-457-0820 and entering the passcode 6277973. At this time, I’ll turn the conference over to the Company. Please go ahead.

Peter Georgiopoulos

Management

Good morning. Before we begin our presentation, I note that in this conference call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements use words such as anticipate, budget, estimate, expects, projects, intend, plan, believe and other words in terms of similar meaning in connection with a discussion of potential future events, circumstances or future operating or financial performance. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations and observations. For a discussion of factors that could cause results to differ, please see the Company’s press release that was issued yesterday, the materials relating to this call posted on the Company’s website and the Company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including, without limitation, the Company’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2016, and the Company’s reports subsequently filed with the SEC. At this time, I’d like to introduce John Wobensmith, Chief Executive Officer of Genco Shipping & Trading Limited.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Good morning welcome to Genco’s first quarter 2017 conference call. I will begin today’s call by reviewing our first quarter 2017 and year to-date highlights. We will then discuss our financial results for the quarter and the industries current fundamentals and then open up the call for questions. Beginning with Slide 5, we review Genco’s first quarter highlights. During the first quarter we continue to take steps to position Genco for a potential market recovery. While we recorded a net loss of $15.6 million or $0.47 basic and diluted loss per share for the quarter reflecting a challenging rate environment relative to historical averages. It is important to note the rates for the first quarter strengthened considerably on a year-over-year basis that supply and demand fundamentals continue to come into balance. Following various seasonal events in the first two months of the year, which pressured rates the market found support. This was driven by a number of factors including the following, heightened Chinese demand for iron ore particularly from Brazil augmented Chinese steel production, increased coal shipments to China and the onset of the South American grain season. We capitalized on these improved market conditions by signing time charter for a number of our vessels at above current index levels. Based on the important steps Genco took to strengthen its balance sheet in 2016, combined with its low breakeven levels and year-over-year improvements during the first quarter, the Company increased its liquidity position to $173.9 million as of March 31 2017. During the quarter we also made significant progress implementing our plan to sell ten older vessels and are pleased to be nearing the completion of this initiative, which will further improve our fleet profile. We delivered four vessels to buyers during the first quarter and expect to sell the…

Apostolos Zafolias

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you John. Turning to Slide 10, our final results were presented. For the three months ended March 31, 2017 the company generated revenues of $38.2 million as compared to $20.9 million for the same period in 2016. The increase was primarily due to higher spot market rates achieved by the majority of the vessels in our fleet during the first quarter of 2017 versus the same period last year. Partially offset by the operation of fewer vessels during the first quarter of 2017 as compared to the first quarter of 2016. Of note, we took advantage of seasonal factors in the first quarter to reposition a number of us vessels in the Atlantic basin in order to better position the fleet to take advantage of potentially improving dry bulk market. For the first quarter of 2017, the Company recorded a net loss of $15.6 million or $0.47 basic and diluted loss per share. This compares to a net loss of $54.5 million or $7.55 basic and diluted loss per share for the first quarter of 2016. Basic and diluted net loss per share for the three months ended March 31, 2016 has been adjusted for the one-for-ten reverse stock split of Genco’s common stock effected on July 7, 2016. Turning to Slide 11, we present key balance sheet items as of March 31, 2017. Our cash position including restricted cash was $173.9 million. Our total assets were $1.6 billion, and consisted primarily of the vessels in our fleet and cash. Our total debt outstanding growth of $10.8 million of unamortized debt issuance costs was $525.1 million as of March 31, 2017. Moving to Slide 12, our utilization rate was 99.1% for the first quarter of 2017. Our TCE for the first quarter was $6,498 per vessel per day, which…

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Thank you Apostolos. I will begin with Slide 15, which represents the Baltic Dry Index, the BDI began 2017 on a mostly downward trajectory after posting a solid performance in the fourth quarter. The BDI began the year at 953 before falling to a first quarter low a first quarter low of 685 on February 14. From that point to the end of the first quarter, the BDI increased in all but five trading days including reaching 1,338 on March 29, which is the highest mark reached since November of 2014. Turning to Slide 16, we outlined some of the market developments influencing the freight rate environment so far during 2017. At the start of the year, various seasonal factors negatively affected the dry bulk market including increased new building deliveries in January weather related disruptions in part impacting cargo availability and the Chinese New Year holiday. As these factors subsided freight rates were able to find support particularly during March. This was led primarily by heightened Chinese demand for seaborne iron ore cargoes predominately from Brazil, increased coal shipments to China as well as the onset of the South American grain season. With regard to iron-ore strong fixture volume towards the end of February and into March highlighted by augmented volumes originating in Brazil propelled Capesize rates to over $20,000 a day, towards the end of the first quarter. China's iron ore imports during the first three months of 2017, rose by 12% year-on-year. This includes a near record iron ore import total in March of 95.6 million tons. Chinese iron ore imports surpassed the 90 million ton threshold in two of the three months during the quarter which is noteworthy given that this mark has only been exceeded during three other months on record. While imports to China…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we will take the first question from Douglas Mavrinac from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Thank you operator, good morning guys. I just had a few follow-ups for you all this morning with the first being, trying to understand the current charter rate environment and what I mean by that is trying to not just kind of separate the impact of marginal demand growth versus marginal supply growth on day rates but trying to parse out kind of the individual demand drivers themselves. Because John as you mentioned you have South American grain trade, you had some coal outages, were not that restricted exports during the quarter and so I am trying to figure out kind of the way that you’ve highlighted how important the iron ore trade is going to be till the outlook for 2017 with S11D coming online. How consistent were those volumes as that thing was ramping up, so you have a lot of noise from other factors but in terms of the importance of the iron ore trade to the outlook for 2017, could you tell how consistent those volumes coming out of Brazil were for that particular commodity?

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Yeah so, I think the first thing to note is that S11D is still in the nascent stages of getting up going. It is projected by Vale to really ramp-up mid to end of this year and to next year and if you look at Slide 16, you can see it very clearly. There is ten million coming on this year but next year you're talking about 35 million to 40 million tons of long haul trade. So that's going to continue to ramp up end of this year and into next and as I said earlier on the call you typically see second half volumes of iron ore higher than first half volumes. Due to weather related issues as well as a lot of the iron ore miners do maintenance in the first quarter of the year.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Got you, got you. Because that’s kind of what I was wondering because when you look at the Cape market where it is right now, with that thing not still haven't ramp up fully and you haven't had the benefit of some of the Australian co-exports and what not. It seems like there is an underpinning of demand that's keeping rates elevated even if not as high as they were just say handful of weeks ago.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

I think that’s right and I think it's – look, I think it's important to keep in mind. While we've seen the price of iron ore drop. And we've seen the fixture activity slowdown to some degree. This is very normal. We've seen this many, many times. The Chinese do not buy iron ore in a steady pattern. They typically go in and they buy large quantities and then they take a step back on the short-term and then continue their buying. So I think what we're seeing right now is nothing unusual and the volumes that are slated to come on over the next 2, 2.5 years already on the table and they're coming.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Got you. It's helpful. And then just kind of maybe even as a follow-up to that in terms of kind of what the market expectations are? Have you – you mentioned that you’ve signed some time charters during the quarter. Is that the result of an increase in demand from charters? Or is it just reflective of the fact that, that rates have gotten better for time charter activity? So kind of what is the appetite on the part of the charters to secure tonnage on time charters rather than being relying upon really huge spot rates as been the case for last couple of years.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

I would say things have normalized. So what I mean by that is rates have obviously improved. Though again we think this is early days in a recovery. But there is there is liquidity back in the market across all vessel classes and charters – we're definitely seeing particularly in the Capesize are willing to go longer – quite a bit longer than they were even six months ago.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Got you, got you. And do you have an indication as far as kind of at what levels are we talking like mid-teens or something like that for Capes or is that too aggressive?

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

No. I mean look at what we just – Baltic Wolf was just done I think last week and that was done a $15,350. I would say that’s about where the market is right now. You know

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

All right.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Even whether you're going short in sort of four to six-month or even the 9 to 12, it somewhere around that, that number which is very easy to see is well above the index today.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Got you, got you. Thank you. And then just two final questions, one on the supply side of the story, and then one for you guys in particular. In the supply side, you mentioned that there has been a little bit of new building order activity, but my question is it hasn't been a lot, so is capital availability, still an issue for a lot of would be orders and there is may be the ordering itself kind of reflective of guys that either don't need the kind of capital to order new. So they're in a better position. Or basically just who's kind of maybe doing the ordering and is the capital availability situation still restricted for most in the industry.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

So far the ordering that we've seen with the exception of maybe some of the JPMorgan rumors has been what I would call more traditional ship owners, not large private equity orders, which obviously we would not be happy to see is an industry. I think financing still remains a major concern. Both in terms of financing a new building, I don't think there are really any commercial banks out there that are willing to do new building financing. I'd also think it is still a real challenge for a lot of these yards to have refund guarantees put in place for orders. So I think just structurally it's an issue. We've also seen even with enquiry in new buildings we're still seeing yards close down. Even Costco I think has consolidated five of the yards down to two. You've seen yards in Korea close we're seeing some smaller yards even in Japan scale back. So it remains to be seen, but we're not seeing anything on the new building side that concerns us at this point. To be honest with you as the market recovers, you do expect to see some new buildings, right. That is part of a healthy market what we would not want to see is very large scale ordering like we saw back in 2013.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Right, exactly, got you. And then final question you guys put together slide that talked about some of the actions do you all have taken as a management team everything from kind of rebalancing the fleet, to also reducing your daily vessel OpEx which – I personally think it's important given the cyclicality of – and volatility in the drybulk markets, and my question pertains to that. Is how do you guys achieve to reduce your operating costs, so significantly what sort of things have you cut out. And then also you comment that you think you could even lower it further. And so what levels do you think that could actually kind of get to.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Look, it's not that we've cut anything out. So just to be very clear on that, because the safety and the maintenance side, are paramount for us, we have a very good reputation amongst our charters in terms of the condition of our vessels. And we don't want to jeopardize that and that’s why you look at our right ship ratings that's very key to us on a commercial standpoint. What we have been doing is – what I'll call crew optimization on the cost saving side. We've had a long history of using full Chinese crew compliments, officers down the lower rating, which has worked out very well for us. And so we are – there were several ships that, that we've now gone. That we've also moved over into for a full Chinese complement. Because how we're set up here, we have an operations team that again have a lot of experience on the Chinese crew side. The Chinese crew quality has come up significantly over the last 10 years. And so we've been able to save on the OpEx side in mostly on dealing with that.

Douglas Mavrinac

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead

Got you, got you. That's all, very helpful. Thanks for the time John.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks, Doug.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll go next to the line of Magnus Fyhr with Seaport Global. Please go ahead.

Magnus Fyhr

Analyst · Magnus Fyhr with Seaport Global. Please go ahead

Yes. Good morning.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Hey, Magnus.

Magnus Fyhr

Analyst · Magnus Fyhr with Seaport Global. Please go ahead

Most of my questions have been answered, but just you guys have been playing defense here for the last year and market is recovering, your asset values moving up. You've sold some assets. Do you feel like you have the right sized fleet here in position for the recovery? Or you see – maybe you start playing offence here down the road.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I actually think we switched over to offence after we did the capital raise. And we did a real look at the company from a strategic standpoint at the end of the year and put a strategic plan in place with the Board, which at this point we are almost fully implemented. So now our major focus is on M&A and how we grow this Company going forward. I think in general you'll see us focus in the major bulks on the Capesize sector, because we see a lot of growth in – on the iron ore and coal side. And then you also see us focused on in the minor bulk most likely in the Ultramax, Supramax sector, because of what we've seen going on in – on the grain – growth on the grain side. So I think we're very much in the offensive seat at this point.

Magnus Fyhr

Analyst · Magnus Fyhr with Seaport Global. Please go ahead

And any more potential divestitures I mean looks like the Panamax is some of the older vessels there. I mean they're coming up for their 20 years service here pretty soon. What are your thoughts there?

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Look I think it's a fair point. From a strategic standpoint I would say Panamax is for us, are not necessarily ideal, because of just not having the scale from a commercial standpoint and wanting to focus more on the bigger ships than the mid-size ships. But as you point out also the age, so it comes down to a timing standpoint with the market and we obviously want to get the best price. So somewhere down the road I think you'll see us exit these older ships, but its more based on market timing.

Magnus Fyhr

Analyst · Magnus Fyhr with Seaport Global. Please go ahead

Okay, I hear you. Thank you.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Magnus.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll go next to the line of Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Yes. Thank you for taking my question. I want to follow-up on Doug's question about the trade and what do you see in terms of trade flows. And if you can compare how was the trade flow versus a year ago, what was the waiting time of your vessels from between charter to charter. And also what has happened the last month we have seen the spill over and I don’t know prices are significantly lower, we have seen than what – than the $120,000 earnings in late March and also if you just see any differences in the flows of the coal, I have heard that the last few days, the last few weeks actually there are fewer coal cargoes, if this is something that you see in your daily trading or you see that the number of charters in the market are sufficient.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Okay, a lot of questions are good questions and if I don't answer them all please – please come back to me but let's just talk about trade volumes for the first quarter in general. Overall clearly an improvement over what we saw in 2016, not even close. January and February were a little softer than the fourth quarter of 2016, but again that was more from a seasonal standpoint as long as – as well as some weather issues and we saw that market start to really pick back up again in early to mid-march in a pretty significant way. And I would also point out that you look at trade rates in the first quarter of 2017 versus the first quarter of 2016 and there was absolute significant improvement and a real floor was set in. And I think most importantly in this industry, as you see increased cargo flows you see an immediate reaction on the freight rate side, which is the beginnings of a healthy market. In terms of prices we clearly have seen the price of iron ore come down, the price of steel come down along with that. Again I think that's a combination of a few things, I think that it is increased supply on the iron ore side from the iron ore majors. And I also think it's the fact that as I said before the Chinese do not buy in a straight line pattern if you will. They tend to come into the market, they buy their iron ore in over a period of time in large quantities and then they take a step back short-term. And then we see the cycle repeat itself and so I think the combination of greater supply in the market and the Chinese taking a short-term breather has pushed iron ore prices down. And along that with steel prices having set down, in the steel price side you’ve definitely seen a stabilization, and what's encouraging is the inventory levels on the steel side continue to move down. So the steel is definitely being used it does not seem to be a demand issue on the steel for us.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Thank you, John. I’m going to follow to ask about new regulations in ballast water treatment systems that – and the new rules that they are going to be inclement in September. How do you manage this new regulation, have you started getting IOPP certificates and how many of your vessels are you planning to go through the new system.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so look we have we've done two things because they're there to two angles if you want to this, there is the IMO standard and yes we are we've positioned the fleet to separate the IOPP certificates from the physical drydockings. So we have a longer period of time to implement the ballast water treatment systems and we've also gotten extensions on our ships from the U.S. Coast Guard. So looking out today the first ship that we have planned to install ballast treatment system does not come until 2019.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

But then can you give us a estimate total cost for you entire fleet and how it's going to be spread out, is it going to be between 2019 and 2020, 2021 or it’s going to be across a longer period of time.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so on the cost side just to give you a sense and these are estimated cost today and I actually think their eventually going to the come down but for Handysize vessels it's probably somewhere around $400,000 to install ballast water treatment system and probably somewhere around $750,000 to give you a sense on the Capeside side. Having said that I think it's early days, these companies one on the U.S. Coast Guard side there there's only a couple systems that are actually approved. So you do not have the benefit of a full ramp up in manufacturing and competition on these systems which I think will come over the next 12 to 24 months. And two having 60 vessels and we expect to be bigger than that by the time we have to implement a ballast water treatment systems. We will have significant buying power with the size of that fleet, so I expect those costs to come down quite a bit.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Thank you, John one last question and it’s has to do more with a competitive landscape. We have seen in the tanker sector at [indiscernible] for a consolidation whether they will be successful or not it seems that there is an appetite. How is the situation in the dry bulk sector given the fact that the number of companies are held by financial investors and also that debt is an issue any longer. All the compromise seems to have a [indiscernible] of fixed balance sheet. Do you see efforts for consolidation? Are you in discussion with any of your peers potential of creating a larger entity.

JohnWobensmith

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Look as far as you've hit on a very good topic. I do think that consolidation should occur not just in the industry but drilling down a little bit in the public arena. I think there are too many of publicly traded drybulk vehicles that have market caps that are not interesting for large institutional investors. So I do think two or three of these coming together to create a larger entity would be good for its investor base. And you also hit on the fact that there are private equity sponsors in quite a few of these companies and I think you do as we've seen in other industries that can be the genesis for consolidation in an industry.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Okay Thank you

JohnWobensmith

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Yes.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Sorry, John please go a head

JohnWobensmith

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

No I was just going to say I think just on paper I think the timing is right but always what looks good on paper is not always reality but I do think if we, if there's ever been a time period where we've had a publicly traded drybulk equities we’re entering a period where consolidation could occur.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

And I'm there any visible advantages apart from the larger market cap and consolidation will make it easier for institutional investors to trade these stocks are there any synergies, operational synergies both on the revenue side and on the expense side. And how low can operating expenses go, they would have seen them being reduced significantly the last couple of years across most of the companies. Yours is a prime example. Do you see that this is sustainable and can a consolidation exercise improve this efficiency given further.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Look I don't – on consolidation I don't think in shipping you have great synergies. Yes you may save a little bit on the G&A side and maybe there is some on the OpEx side but keep in mind particularly with Genco we already have the benefit of that by having third party management that are managing 500 to 600 ships. So we already have the cost savings on the purchasing side. I think the real positive news if you will on consolidation again it's just going back to creating a larger market cap a more liquid stock that institutional investors can invest in. And those institutional investors being hopefully mutual funds, eventually which we saw back in 2006, 2007, 2008 are lower cost equity providers. And so these stocks should start to trade better, as you create like a larger market capital, also take competitive supply out of the market in terms of investable companies.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Thank you very much John

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Okay, Thanks Fortis.

Operator

Operator

And at this time we have no further questions. So I'd like to take the time and thank you all for joining today’s conference. We do appreciate everyone's participation and you may disconnect your line at any time. Have a wonderful day.

John Wobensmith

Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.