John Wobensmith
Chief Executive Officer
Yes. No, look, I think let’s take the two segments. So, let’s take the Minor Bulks segment and then talk about the Capesize segment. So, on the minor bulks, we obviously have a very robust commercial operating platform where we are doing 90% plus of our business direct with cargo owners. And we are able to book those cargoes and trade around those cargoes meaning using either our shift to let that cargo where if it makes sense, when we can make more money, we will use somebody else in shipping and chartered in short-term. So, I don’t think anything is going to change much there. It doesn’t mean from time-to-time that we won’t do some time charter coverage, whether it’s three months to five months or four months to six months, if it makes sense for where that vessel is positioned. But I would look at the minor bulks, it’s more of a shorter duration. Now, the capes, on the other hand, that’s a different animal. And what I mean by that is because of the volatility in the Capesize sector, we do from time-to-time, take time charter coverage on a longer term basis anywhere from 1 year to 3 years. Right now, we don’t think that’s the right thing to be doing. We think these rates are too low. We think, again, there is going to be a recovery that is going to come sometime next year on the Capesize front because of the low – very low supply situation, as well as the demand picking up once China reopen. When we do see the opportunity to take the exposure off the table at certain rates for capes, we do it. We have demonstrated that in the past with the longer term charters we have done. We have also done, which had been interesting, some index-related charters on the capes where we collect the spot rate on a daily basis. But we also have the ability to fix longer term within that index charter. And that has been – that’s been very successful as well, and very helpful, particularly with all the volatility that has existed this year, in particular, the Capesize sector. It’s – I think we have seen more volatility in capes this year than we have seen in the last 5 years, 6 years. We were looking at numbers the other day, and I think 54%, 55% of the day so far this year for capsize have moved plus or minus 5% on a daily basis. So, a lot of volatility this year and some of those spot index deals have been – have worked well and been able to play that.