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Genasys Inc. (GNSS)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 11, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Genasys Inc. Fiscal Third Quarter 2022 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on a listen-only mode and the floor will be open for questions and comments following the presentation. [Operator Instructions] At this time, it is my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Kim Rogers, Investor Relations for Genasys. Ma'am, the floor is yours.

Kim Rogers

Analyst

Thank you, Karen. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Genasys Incorporated fiscal third quarter 2022 financial results conference call. I'm Kim Rogers with Hayden IR, the Investor Relations firm for Genasys. With me on the call are Richard Danforth, Chief Executive Officer; and Dennis Klahn, Chief Financial Officer of Genasys. During today's call, management will make forward-looking statements regarding the company's plans, expectations, outlook and the future financial performance that involve certain risks and uncertainties. The company's results may differ materially from the projections described in these forward-looking statements. Factors that may cause such differences and other potential risks and uncertainties and can be found in the Risk Factors section of the company's Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2021. Other than statements of historical facts, forward-looking statements made on this call are based only on information and management's expectations as of today. We explicitly disclaim any intent or obligation to update those forward-looking statements, except as otherwise specifically stated. We will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures and other operational metrics, including adjusted EBITDA, bookings and backlog, which we believe provide helpful information to investors with respect to evaluating the company's performance. For a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to GAAP financial metrics, please see the table in the press release issued by the company at the close of the market today. We consider bookings and backlog leading indicators of future revenues and use these metrics to support production planning. Bookings is an internal operational metric that measures the total dollar value of customer purchase orders executed in a given period regardless of the timing of related revenue recognition. Backlog is a measure of purchase orders received that are scheduled to ship in the next 12 months. Finally, a replay of this call will be available in approximately 4 hours through the Investor Relations page on the company's website. At this time, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Genasys, Chief Executive Officer, Richard Danforth.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Thank you, Kim, and welcome, everybody. We had another terrific quarter with strong Q3 revenues leading to nine month record revenues. Our operating activities generated more than $2.5 million in cash, further strengthening our balance sheet with the capital to fund our growth investments. Bookings for the quarter were nearly $20 million, growing our backlog $6 million to a total of 30 million exiting Q3, keeping us on track for our revenue expectations for the year. Our bookings remained strong, more than $20 million for the quarter. Fiscal year law enforcement and public safety bookings are already at a record level for the third consecutive year. Genasys Software Services will use numerous times to deliver flash flood warnings and evacuation notices during the Eastern Australian floods in April, and in late June and early July during the New South Wales floods that displaced more than 85,000 people. First responders and emergency management agencies deployed Genasys software evacuation resources during 12 wildfires in June alone in Northern California. During these fires, more than 250,000 new users access the Genasys Zonehaven community website for real-time evacuation alerts and repopulation notification. During the ongoing McKinney fire near the California-Oregon border, the performance of the Zonehaven AWARE platform has been exceptional. Users have access to site more than 400,000 times for updated fire evacuation and repopulation information. Many California counties made Zonehaven a key element in their 2022 emergency preparedness campaigns, encouraging residents to memorize their zone numbers and bookmark the Zonehaven community website for faster access to vital information throughout wildfires and other public safety threats. For the second time this year, Laguna Beach emergency personnel activated the city's Genasys Integrated Mass Notification system to alert residents and broadcast evacuation warnings during the May 11 coastal fire. The coastal fire burned just south…

Dennis Klahn

Analyst

Thank you, Richard. Revenues for the fiscal 2022 third quarter were $14.2 million up 12% from the prior year quarter. The revenue increase was driven by the $3.9 million from IMNS shipments up 756% from the prior year quarter. North American SaaS revenue in the third quarter was 144% greater than the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2021. Gross margin was 46.5% a decrease of 440 basis points compared to 50.9% in the third quarter of fiscal 2021. The lower gross margin percentage was largely due to higher cost of components in this year’s quarter. We continue to expect gross margin to be plus or minus 50% for the full year, although, there may be some fluctuations quarter-to-quarter. Operating expenses were $7.2 million up from $5.9 million in the same period a year ago. The increase was due to a 15% increase in SG&A related to strategic growth spending to accelerate SaaS revenue and a 52% increase in research and development spending with a significant increase in SaaS development. As a reminder, our fiscal 2022 business plan includes a year-over-year increase in operating expense for strategic growth initiatives targeted materially shifting our revenue mix toward a higher proportion of software revenue and expanding our margins. Net loss for the quarter was $589,000 or $0.02 per share, a decrease from the net income of $290,000 or $0.01 per share in the fiscal 2021 third quarter. The change was due to the increase in operating expenses, which I just discussed. Adjusted EBITDA for the fiscal 2022 third quarter was $364,000 compared with $1.4 million in the prior fiscal year third quarter. We believe this information in comparisons of adjusted EBITDA enhances the overall understanding and visibility of our business performance. To that effect, a reconciliation of our GAAP results to non-GAAP figures…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Brian Colley from Stephens. Please go ahead.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. So apologies if I missed it, but did you disclose what the software revenue was for the quarter?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

We did not.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Okay.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Not in total, do we?

Dennis Klahn

Analyst

No. I mean, in total it’ll be disclosed in the 10-Q and I believe that it’s a little over $700,000 for the quarter. Now that’s a mix of – it has grown, it’s a mix that has changed year-over-year. Last year had a fair amount of professional services involved. However, this year the SaaS-based recurring revenue has grown essentially enough to offset all of the reduction in professional services.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That’s helpful. Thank you. And then I also wanted to ask just about recent demand trends as it relates to weaker economic backdrop. I presume, you’re relatively well insulated given the nature of your products and customer base being in government and sled verticals. But have you seen any softening in demand for either hardware or software related to recent macro uncertainty, whether it’s lengthening sales cycles or more budget scrutiny?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

No. Brian, quite the opposite when it comes to the SaaS offerings. The amount of activity is amped up substantially in the last three months for us. So that’s very good. From a hardware perspective, you’re right. We’re somewhat insulated from the economics of the inflation and that kind of thing. And given what’s going on in the world, there is an increasing demand for our software, our hardware and our system solution. So right now the answer to your question is no, we don’t see an impact from it.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Understood. Well, that’s encouraging to hear. Lastly, I wanted to ask about the new Chief Revenue Officer, Dennis Walsh. I know he is still brand into the job, but can you talk about any early strategy or view on his plans to expand your software business? What that might entail?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

He’s been here a week and two days. So we’re going to give him a little more time to lay that out. But you can rest assure that that’s in process and we’ll talk about that when it’s more complete.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Got it. Okay. If I could sneak one last question in here. I’m curious how much you all are leveraging channel partners today for your software business and as expanding your channel ecosystem as an opportunity that you’re actively pursuing.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

It is. We have one channel partner, I think at this time, Brian. So it’s not been tapped into hugely yet. Most of our software sales are direct, but certainly as we expand particularly outside the United States, it’ll likely been much higher use of channel partners.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Okay. Got it. Well, I appreciate the time today, guys.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And next, we’ll take a question from Ed Woo from Ascendiant Capital. Please go ahead.

Ed Woo

Analyst

Yes. Congratulations on the quarter. In terms of supply chain and inflation, it looks like it impacted the quarter. What is your visibility? Is it getting better? And what’s your visibility into the next six months?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

The supply chain from an availability is, as I said, last quarter is manageable. And we have been managing it. We have seen an increase in pricing that’s reflected in a slightly lower gross margin for the quarter. Although the gross margin for the nine months is actually ahead of where we were last year. So I think Ed, I put that in the same category, we are managing that. We expect our gross margin as we historically have to be plus or minus 50%. And again, the supply chain, we have delivered record revenues over three years with the supply chain challenges. And I think that will continue.

Ed Woo

Analyst

Great. Well, thanks for answering my questions and I wish you guys good luck. Thank you.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Mike Latimore from Northland Capital. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi. I’m Vivek on for Mike Latimore. My first question is what percent of bookings was software in the quarter?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

We don’t disclose that yet. That will be something we’ll likely do as we enter our next fiscal year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay then. So can you just tell me how many sales people do you have?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

The number grows every day almost. So I don’t know what the number is right here talking to you, but we can get that and get it over to you.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Any approximate numbers?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

For the United States it’s 20.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So did Slovenia go live in July? So how is that operating any color on that?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Yes, sure. It went live on schedule in July and it’s operating as we speak today.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Cool. My last question is that, do you have any European deals in the pipeline for this calendar year?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. That’s it from my side. Thanks. Thanks for answering.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And next we’ll go to Kris Tuttle from SoundView Capital. Please go ahead.

Kris Tuttle

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. Yes, I just had a couple on the newer business, the deal that you announced with the Red Sox did they have any kind of existing system in place? And in general do you find that sports teams and large arenas have something already in place or is it more of a greenfield opportunity for you?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

It’s both. The case of the Red Sox there wasn’t incumbent that we took out. There’s been other sports arenas, sports stadiums that we’ve won where there hasn’t been an incumbent. But it does go Kris to any place a large gathering of people will be has a need for the GEM platform. We’ve sold it out to the Red Sox, the Green Bay Packers to MetLife and there’s others in the pipeline.

Kris Tuttle

Analyst

Okay. And one other question just related to the historical, the LRAD business, I mean, you guys announced, I think like a $15 million-ish order with the army. What’s the timeframe for delivery of that kind of order?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

There’ll be some in our Q4 and the balance in our fiscal 2023.

Kris Tuttle

Analyst

Okay. So like next 12 to 16 months, something like that, it will be fulfilled?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

It's likely in the next 12 months.

Kris Tuttle

Analyst

Okay. And can you give – I mean, what's your – at least qualitatively, looking at the branches of the service and the installed base of the older LRAD systems. Does this represent sort of like the Army will be fully upgraded with their older systems? Or in general, like there's a lot more to go in terms of the upgrade opportunity for the LRAD?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

In the current program of record, Kris, is not a replacement of previously purchased LRAD products. It has three very specific use cases and we continue to deliver on those use cases as we cultivate new use cases for the United States Army and other armies around the world. But I think the United States Army will continue for a long time to be a very good customer of Genasys.

Kris Tuttle

Analyst

Okay. And then I had one last question just on the demand for these kind of emergency response systems. I have been told that in particular, state and local municipalities in more rural states have radios, police radios that are designed more to function outdoors than indoors, and that has led to some communication issues inside large buildings like schools. And I'm just wondering, have you all seen an increase in demand or any sign of demand from those kind of municipalities looking to change out their older radio systems that are more designed for outdoor use than indoor use?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

We have – I mean, I mentioned GEM, the demand for GEM ramping up quite a bit. And that's across state and local governments, that's across colleges and universities and large enterprises. So the GEM platform can put geo-specific messages to your phone to your desktop to your laptop to digital signs to a radio to TV, an HF radio is just one channel. And with the GEM platform, we can use the HF radios or many of the other channels like I just mentioned.

Kris Tuttle

Analyst

Okay, got it. All right, well, thanks very much, guys. Appreciate it.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take another question from Brian Colley from Stephens. Please go ahead.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking the follow-up. I was curious if you could provide an update on public warning activity in the EU. Everbridge mentioned earlier this week that there were 12 different countries with RFPs and RFIs out there right now. Are there any countries you feel particularly strongly about your ability to win. I'm curious if that market is still seeing highly competitive pricing.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

It certainly is with respect to cell broadcast. Europe is in the month of August and not a lot happens in the month of August, but there are countries and network providers that they are active RFIs and RFPs. And as I said earlier, I believe, Brian, some of those will close before the end of this calendar year.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then on the software side, it seems like most of the growth that you're pursuing is with new customers. I'm curious if upselling existing customers...

Richard Danforth

Analyst

No, that's not – yes, I'm sorry to interrupt you, Brian, but the software – the SaaS we're selling, the GEM SaaS we're selling is almost always replacing an incumbent. In the case of the Zonehaven software, there is no incumbent. So that's always going to be new. Frequently, it is the same people that are buying GEM. So there's no incumbent to replace with Zonehaven. There certainly is with GEM. And I will say it again, almost always we're replacing the company.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Got it. Yes. I guess I meant more so you're adding new customers, whether it's you're replacing an incumbent or not. They're new customers to you. I'm curious if kind of upselling your existing customer base that is your software customer base, additional solutions represents a meaningful growth driver as well. Do GEM and Zonehaven have enough add-on functionality to make upselling kind of a key priority there?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

It certainly does. So it actually goes three different ways, Brian. So GEM is pulling Zonehaven. Zonehaven is pulling GEM and the integrated mass notification system is pulling both of them. There are several counties and communities in the United States that have been a GEM customer that have upsold Zonehaven and vice versa. And where we've had integrated mass notification systems, selling them the GEM communication platform as well as the Zonehaven software is showing great promise.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Okay. That's encouraging. And then lastly, just as it relates to the international expansion opportunity at Zonehaven, when – are you already kind of pursuing that opportunity today? Are you kind of going after other states in the U.S. first? And if the latter is the case, I'm curious when you might start to pursue the international opportunity with Zonehaven?

Richard Danforth

Analyst

We will begin first in Europe and plans are underway now.

Brian Colley

Analyst

Okay, got it. I’ll leave it at that. Thank you for the time today.

Richard Danforth

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And there appear to be no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Dennis Klahn for closing remarks.

Dennis Klahn

Analyst

Thank you. We regularly discuss our business at investor events during the year, and you are invited to join us for these events. We are participating in the Windy City MicroCap Rodeo in Chicago on October 13, contact the event organizer to schedule a one-on-one meeting. We will also be at the LD Micro main event on October 25. You can register for the conference and book a meeting through the LD Micro website. In mid-November, we are participating in the Stephens Annual Investment Conference. Contact your Stephen's representative for more information. Thank you for participating in today's call. We look forward to speaking with you again later this year when we report our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2022 results.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a great day.