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Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 10, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to Grocery Outlet’s Fiscal Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today’s conference is being recorded. I would like to turn the conference over to Arvind Bhatia. Please go ahead.

Arvind Bhatia

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us in today’s call to discuss Grocery Outlet’s third quarter 2021 financial results. Joining me on the call are Grocery Outlet’s Chief Executive Officer, Eric Lindberg; President, RJ Sheedy; and Chief Financial Officer, Charles Bracher. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. This conference call is being webcast live and a recording will be available via audio playback for approximately 2 weeks. It will also be archived in the Investor Relations section of our website. Participants on this call will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our outlook for the fourth quarter and fiscal 2021 and future performance. These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. A description of these factors can be found in this afternoon’s press release as well as in our periodic reports we filed with the SEC, all of which maybe found on our website at investors.groceryoutlet.com or on sec.gov. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements or information. These statements are estimates only and not a guarantee of future performance. During our call, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial information, including adjusted items. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP measures as well as the description, limitations and rationale for using each measure may be found in the supplemental financial tables included in this afternoon’s press release, our SEC filings, and the Investors tab for our website. With that, I will turn it over to Eric.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Thanks, Arvind. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us for a discussion of our third quarter results. I am pleased with our sales and margin performance during the third quarter and I am encouraged by the early momentum in Q4, with October comp sales flat to last year. We continue to offer the most compelling value in grocery retail by executing our core strategy, leveraging our unique purchasing capabilities and passionate network of independent operators. We are also making progress on initiatives to further increase share of wallet and broaden our reach, including a strategic expansion of our assortment, the launch of an e-commerce pilot, and development of personalized customer marketing tools. We are as excited as ever about our runway to extend our reach through ongoing store growth as well as new digital opportunities, reflecting confidence in the health of our business and our long-term growth potential. Our Board of Directors has authorized a $100 million share repurchase program that complements our primary objectives of opening stores, reinvesting in existing fleet and building a strong infrastructure for the future. Let me now take a moment to share with you some of our key priorities as we navigate the current environment. First, we are staying true to our model offering great value to our customers. We remain focused on being the industry leader in opportunistic sourcing and our best-in-class buying team continues to execute at a very high level. In a dynamic supply chain environment, we are benefiting from the flexibility of our model and the nimbleness of our purchasing team to deliver customers a full assortment as well as the deep discounts and treasure hunt experience that they expect. Second, we continue to strengthen our relationships with our IOs through a consistent engagement and improved support to…

RJ Sheedy

Analyst

Thanks, Eric. I’d like to begin by thanking all of our operators and their team members for continuing to execute exceptionally well in order to serve their comers. Their focus and dedication are contributing to our continued momentum in the fourth quarter. And while we are pleased with the health of our underlying business, we are also excited about progress made on several key initiatives. First, for an update on supply, we are encouraged by our pipeline of opportunistic products. We continue to capture outstanding buys across all categories to deliver extreme value and a fun treasure hunt experience to our customers. Renewed supplier investments in product innovation and additional capacity and production are still contributing to the breadth and depth of offers we are seeing. Let me provide a few examples of recent buys resulting from these dynamics. Example number one is the purchase of 100,000 cases of hard seltzer from a Canadian beverage company that recently entered the U.S. market. As brands have proliferated and the popular seltzer categories have become more crowded, the supplier offered us a large block of excess product. While competitors are selling the brand’s 12 packs at $18, we are offering the same item at $5.99, almost a 70% savings while still generating a healthy margin. Example number two is a close vendor partner within the snack category who recently expanded into plant-based ice cream. As sometimes happens, initial supply exceeded demand resulting in the vendor rationalizing their SKU assortment. As a result, we were able to purchase 130,000 cases of the ice cream. We are selling the product for $2.99, representing a 50% savings and an exciting deal for our nosh customers. Example number three is another longstanding supplier who is innovating across their brand portfolio and expanding into more traditional retail…

Charles Bracher

Analyst

Thanks, RJ, and good afternoon, everyone. I’ll spend a few minutes discussing our third quarter financial results and then provide commentary on fourth quarter trends and our outlook for the remainder of the year. We are pleased with our third quarter results across our key performance metrics. Comparable store sales decreased 4.3% on top of an increase of 9.1% in the third quarter last year. While third quarter traffic and basket size were stable relative to Q2, our comp sales decline versus last year was the result of lower traffic. Net sales were $768.9 million, up slightly compared to the same period last year. Contributing to total sales is the impact of 35 net new stores opened since the end of the third quarter last year. We set the quarter with 407 locations and remain pleased with the performance of our newly opened stores in both infill and new markets. Both our 2021 openings as well as recent vintages continued to deliver sales productivity in line with our expectations. Third quarter gross margin of 30.8% was above our expectations and in line with pre-pandemic levels despite inflationary headwinds. Compared to the third quarter of 2020, our gross margin decreased approximately 40 basis points, predominantly due to the normalization of inventory turns and higher supply chain, freight and fuel costs. SG&A increased 1% versus the prior year to $191.6 million due primarily to increased store occupancy and IO commission expense related to store growth, offset by lower incentive compensation expense. Depreciation and amortization increased to $17.5 million, up 24% versus the third quarter last year, driven by store growth as well as continued capital investments in systems and infrastructure. Stock-based compensation expense was $1.9 million, down 51% versus last year, reflecting current performance expectations related to our performance-based share awards. Net…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from the line of Kate McShane with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Kate McShane

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking our questions. My question is centered around October and what you’re seeing in October, you mentioned that the 2-year stack is slightly better. I know some of that is price, but is there a way to dimensionalize how much is price versus traffic?

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Hey, Kate, Eric, thanks for the question. Yes, we’re really pleased with what we’re seeing 2-year stack is slightly ahead of Q3. We are still seeing a lot more ring than we are seeing customer count. So we look at it and we say that we’re not quite seeing the customer returning yet. So still building basket, and that is – feels good at this point just to see some better numbers in October than Q3. But yet to see a real return on customer count.

Charles Bracher

Analyst

And Kate, this is Charles. Just to add to that, sequentially, traffic in October is stable relative to what we saw in the third quarter. So as Eric described, the benefit we’re seeing is really coming from average ring as we’re following those market-wide price increases driven by inflation.

Kate McShane

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Michael Lasser with UBS. Please go ahead.

Mark Carden

Analyst

Good afternoon. This is Mark Carden on for Michael today. Thanks a lot for taking the question. So, on your Instacart offering, how much flexibility do you guys have to ultimately add more opportunistic items, you guys faced a lot of restrictions on this front from vendors? And is it feasible to have Instacart ultimately show more items that are unique to the local stores? Thanks.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Yes, sure. Mark thanks for the question. Yes, we have a lot of flexibility. The way that this is set up is that we’re showing real-time inventory to the day for each specific store that’s participating in the pilot. It’s a group of 68 stores at this point in time. We did have conversations with our supplier partners prior to launching the pilot. There were some that preferred not to have their items, brands shown on the e-commerce platform. And I’d say very consistent and in line with preferences and filters we put in place from a general marketing standpoint. And these are preferences based on channel conflict concerns. As a percent of assortment or percent of sales, it’s small, so single-digits. So think about the online assortment as representing the vast majority of what’s available in store. And if you were to go on there and encourage you to check it out, you’ll see plenty of great brands and items and value being offered to customers. So pleased that we’re up and running. We had to do it in a slightly different way. I think that most, just given some of the dynamics of our model. To your question related to supplier relationships, but also because of the operator model pleased that we’re up and running here and then, yes, still plenty of opportunity for us to continue to develop how we show the great items available and further represent the WOW! that we have in the stores of those shopping online as well.

Mark Carden

Analyst

Makes sense. Thanks, guys. Good luck.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

You bet.

RJ Sheedy

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Simeon Gutman

Analyst

Hi, everyone. Thanks for the question. I’ll just put two into one. First, on new space productivity, it looks below average for Q3, and I think implied for Q4. So can you speak to what’s going on there? And then the second question is there are some rumbles of price investments from some of the bigger companies. Can you talk about your spreads in every day as well as some of the WOW! I guess we heard some examples in WOW!, but every day and maybe some of the NOSH items even? Thank you.

Charles Bracher

Analyst

Hey, Simeon, it’s Charles. Let me take the first part of your question with respect to new store productivity. As we mentioned in the comments, we feel really good. The new stores continue to track very much in line with our expectations and that’s true for recent vintages that continue to ramp as well as stores that we’ve opened so far this year. We understand that the optics, I think the way you guys do some of the back-of-the-envelop math, given that you can’t see the – necessarily that the comp base appears to show that non-comp deceleration in Q3. And that’s really driven by the timing of new store openings, both by quarter and within the quarter. Going back to prior year, if you recall, we used a 14-month comp. And so it’s really that timing that this cost in that optical headwind, if you will. But I can tell you that as you look at actual non-comp sales dollars in the third quarter, very much in line, consistent with what we saw in the first couple of quarters of the year. And overall, we always talk about non-comp productivity when you compare that relative to the average store it remains in the high 60% range.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

And to your second question, Simeon, on value spread as it relates to inflation, and I think I think you’re asking about promotional activity there as well. On the inflation side, first course of action for us is to manage the assortment movement between suppliers and items. And I think we’ve done that quite well given our diversified supplier base. And the normal change in the assortment that customers are accustomed to and look forward to, quite frankly, as part of the treasure hunt. Competitive pricing has increased with inflation, cost increases from suppliers pass through now to retail. We’re fast to follow on those. We have maintained consistent levels of value across the many metrics that we track. So whether you’re looking at the basket, still delivering around that 40% save up to relative to conventional grocery retailers. The representation of sales and even higher save up percentages is very healthy. And I’d say that value spread is consistent with how we’ve managed it or what we track to pre-COVID across every day and opportunistic as well. That’s the value spread in terms of absolute dollars. The value is even more important to customers because of those elsewhere prices are higher and harder to get as much for your dollar spend. And then the last thing I’d mention is the flexibility with which we manage pricing. That’s been helpful as it relates to inflation, but also very helpful as we – and as we always have, manage our value relative competitors. And so as the promotional environment continues to change, the fact that we’re pricing items everyday allows us to manage costs, manage value, manage margin, ultimately deliver value. And we are pleased with how the teams managed it so far. It’s contributed to top line. We have also been able to deliver healthy margins and expect we will be able to continue to manage it well looking forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Robbie Ohmes with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Robbie Ohmes

Analyst

Hi, good evening guys. I am going to sneak in two questions. The first is just on the new SKUs you guys are adding? Are you bringing in new suppliers or is it existing suppliers? And are the margins on the items kind of in line with what you would see on other items that are already in the store? And then second, just in terms of the traffic, anything you are thinking about doing on the marketing side to try and maybe accelerate sort of a return of positive traffic?

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Yes. Robbie, thanks for the questions. Yes. So, first on the expansion of the assortment, really happy to have added these 200 additional SKUs and it covers a pretty broad range of categories, NOSH, of course, that continues to be a focus, but also fresh and ethnic and local as mentioned in the comments. It’s a mix of – they are all new items. It’s a mix of new suppliers and existing suppliers. We have looked at industry data. We leaned on supplier partnerships, great input from operators as well in targeting the items that are most important to customer basket and trips, items that have not been represented in the past. And so feel really good about those ads, the contribution that they will make in those ways trip and basket. And then ads, that are still the top, as you know, we have evolved the assortment and added items over a long period of time now, broader reach to elevate our brand. It’s benefited us in a lot of ways, and we expect to see similar benefits for future product expansion. Second question, marketing strategy, what are we doing to drive traffic, yes, we continue to optimize our mix across radio, TV, digital, continue to lean into digital more heavily. It’s more targeted and efficient in that way. We have been testing different messaging and different offers with a focus on customer acquisitions. We have found some new platforms that have shown nice return by way of new customers, so connected TV, credit card program platforms, some other deal-based apps. There is a longer list there that we have started to invest in have seen positive results and we will continue to expand. And then I had also mentioned some of these new tools that we have introduced to operators to help them further communicate more personally and in a very local community-based way with their customers. And those are as important, if not more, I will say, than the centralized marketing investments that we make. And it’s really the blend of both for us by way of outreach and new customer trial. It’s always centered on the value of the deals, the item of the brands as those things that drive excitement and then round it out with other attributes of the model, the treasure hunt, the local connection, the great customer service. And through these tools now, operators are able to do that in a more efficient, effective way still with their own personalization and curation, if you will, as it relates to their own customers and the needs of the local market.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of John Heinbockel with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

John Heinbockel

Analyst

So guys, I have got two topics. One on the assortment expansion, if you break those down into treasure hunt, right or close out versus every day, how does that break down? Where do you want to go further with assortment, right? Is the 200 a stepping stone and I assume private brand is still not on the near-term horizon. And then just lastly, one quick thing on Instacart, would it be your expectation that in the short run, the quick hit is with customers who know GO and know how to shop it. So, share of wallet with them as opposed to new customer capture.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Hey John, yes, thanks for the questions. So, I will take those. The assortment expansion, these 200 items are predominantly everyday items. So, they are items that we want to represent in the assortment that customers know they can find, right, again, important to their trip and important to their basket. And in that way, add convenience to the shop, similar to what we have done in other everyday categories such as fresh seafood or going back a longer period of time, when we added more of our fresh items, etcetera. So, that’s the focus. Of course, we are always adding new opportunistic items. That’s just part of the model, right. But specifically for these more recent adds, they are on the everyday side. Private label is still an opportunity for us, haven’t leaned into that just yet, but I think that’s a nice add and complement both private label and product development. And so we will look to introduce more of that here in the medium to longer term. And then to your question on e-commerce, the focus here really – well, it’s twofold. It’s for the percent or the amount of our customers that shop online today, they shop at our stores, but they also shop online. We certainly want to capture those dollars. And so we would see that as incremental. But as important is the potential to attract new customers. We think there are quite a lot of consumers out there that would really enjoy the shopping experience, the assorted items, the values. Just for a number of reasons, hadn’t ever been in a store before. Maybe they are aware, but they haven’t tried it or just hasn’t fit into their shopping patterns. And so we think being online initially here through this pilot with Instacart is a great way for us to introduce the brand to drive trial, have them come to know who we are and what we represent and in that way, complement our customer acquisition efforts through our historical or more traditional marketing efforts. So, we are excited about both the incremental dollars, so to speak, one is incremental customers, the other is just share of wallet with existing customers.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Krisztina Katai with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Krisztina Katai

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon guys. Thanks for the question. I just had a question on pricing and inflation. I guess we have started to see some price resistance from consumers in this inflationary backdrop. So, are you finding that prices may be starting to become a greater priority for consumers versus what it has been over the last 12 months to 18 months? And as you are clearly value focused, how are you thinking about your ability to take some of the share back over the coming quarters?

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Yes. We think it’s a very noticed – very much noticed by consumers. We think increasingly something that will cause them to change patterns or look for ways to save money. The levels of inflation that we are seeing today and you don’t expect it to subside anytime soon. We think orient customers back to value or to value more so than they have been recently because of other needs or priorities. We haven’t seen it quite yet, as mentioned in our own traffic count. So for us, the focus is delivering value, and we have and we have been able to manage that well. And we think there is a real or there will increasingly be a real need to save even more money not just because of inflation, but also when you consider the stimulus has ended, unemployment benefits have ended, a lot of the support subsidies that were part of COVID have ended. And now on top of that, you have inflation that’s really hurting consumer wallets. And so we think that ultimately turns in our favor in terms of customer panel.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Karen Short with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Karen Short

Analyst

Hi. Thanks very much. I just have a two-part as well. First, can you actually provide what the actual inflation number was in the quarter? But then the bigger question I have is, when I look at your sales per square foot, and your gross profit dollars per square foot versus ‘19, both of those metrics actually got significantly worse in 3Q than 1Q or 2Q. And so I guess I am trying to triangulate that with the fact that you are calling out inflation is helping you a little bit.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Yes. And to your first question, Karen, not providing a specific number. What I will say though is our mix is a little bit different. And of course, our pricing is different as it relates to everyday and opportunistic. So, generally speaking, impact of inflation on our business is going to be a little bit less than what you see in the industry just because of those assortment and pricing dynamics? And then Charles?

Charles Bracher

Analyst

Yes. Karen, with respect to your question around gross margin per foot, I think our point of view, feeling really good about – if you look at the Q3 margin we posted 30.8%. It was above our expectations and in the context of this inflationary environment, us delivering that number, which is right in line with pre-pandemic, pre-inflation levels of 2019, that’s where we feel really good. And we think the purchasing team is doing a great job on the buy side, everything we talked about continuing to leverage the flexibility of the model. And then, yes, we are following the market-based pricing moves, but maintaining that relative value. And so able to replicate that pre-pandemic gross margin rate feels really good. If you look into the fourth quarter, we do expect that we will continue to manage that margin effectively. If you recall, we always see that seasonal decline from Q3 to Q4 in gross margin related to holiday food mix. And so our expectation of 30.5% again, consistent with 2019 levels despite the impact of inflation.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Joe Feldman with Telsey Advisory Group. Please go ahead.

Joe Feldman

Analyst

Yes. Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about the stores. And it sounded like you guys are – the pipeline for next year is looking fairly good. But you made a comment about materials and the expenses related to that going up. I was wondering if you could just explore that a little bit more and talk a bit what you are seeing and how that’s impacting maybe the store opening model and the cost to do so?

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Yes. Hey Joe, let me start that and then maybe Charles can talk about the cost. We are excited about sort of what we have on the docket for balance of this year and next year. And what’s been challenging, not the real estate deal pipeline, but the construction and getting those stores open in the pipeline. Just navigating all the constraints, availability of materials, the creativity we have had used beg, borrow or steal to get things open. It’s just been really challenging. It’s unclear to us how those will either abate or persist. So, we are being pretty cautious on 2022 in terms of outlook. We think we will have – our stores will be more back-end weighted in terms of second half of the year. We have been able to manage the cost so far, but they have gone up a bit over sort of the 5-year average. Will that come back down, we think we will see some relief in the cost that we have seen sort of in lumber and some in steel. But look, people are willing to pay for things that they can’t get. So, in anyone’s guess in terms of long-term.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question is from Michael Baker with Davidson. Please go ahead.

Michael Baker

Analyst

Yes. Hi guys. So, I wanted to ask about the 2-year comp trend, it seems to be stabilizing in the 4% to 5% range. It’s nice to stabilizing, but it is below what you are running prior to the pandemic, the 5 years prior to the pandemic, the 2-year stack rate was pretty consistent about like 9% like almost every year, maybe 8% to 9%. But should we think about this 2-year stack of 4% to 5% as being the new run rate, meaning comps in the 2% to 2.5% range. I get that’s sort of what your long-term algo is set at 1% to 3%, I think you say. But prior to the pandemic, you were able to beat that so consistently. Is there a path to get back to those kind of numbers? Thanks.

Charles Bracher

Analyst

Yes, Mike, it’s Charles. Let me just offer a few thoughts. I mean I think overall, with respect to the operating backdrop that we are working in, we feel really good about how we are executing and the performance that we are delivering. As we look forward, we definitely see no change to the long-term algorithm that we have talked about, that’s very much intact. We think it does get stronger to your point as customers return to value. So over time, historically, we have outperformed that sort of 1% to 3% comp range based on the importance of value. So, we think that, again, we are well positioned as customers reorient in that direction. But everything else in terms of the algorithm, unit growth I think Eric talked about, we got a strong line of the stores. Yes, we are navigating construction challenges, but no change to our long-term expectation there of 10% unit growth. On the margins side, we are doing a great job of managing for margin consistency and performance in the current environment. And again, over the long-term, we do manage the business for gross margin and adjusted EBITDA margin stability. So, we feel really good about where we are and where we are headed into 2022 and beyond.

Operator

Operator

And Mr. Lindberg, I would like to turn the call back to you. You may continue with your presentation or closing remarks.

Eric Lindberg

Analyst

Yes. Just, short thank you. Thanks, everyone for jumping on. I appreciate your engagement, and we will talk to you in the next few minutes on one-on-ones. And thank you, operator. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

You’re welcome, sir. And that does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you all for your participation and kindly ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day, everyone.